Get £2500 (businesses) to £500 (residents) to upgrade your connection to Fibre from the government free
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Get £2500 (businesses) to £500 (residents) to upgrade your connection to Fibre from the government free

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Posted 9th MayEdited by:"jasee"
"Gigabit vouchers can be used by small businesses and the local communities surrounding them to contribute to the installation cost of a gigabit-capable connection.

Businesses can claim up to £2,500 against the cost of connection either individually or as part of a group project.

Residents can benefit from the scheme with a voucher worth £500 as part of a group project."

I've no idea how this scheme could work but apparently it has. Openreach seem to be doing a little work to extend fiber but the 'pipe' to the green cabinets has to be big enough to extend!

Anyone (or business) seriously considering this should probably look kere:
communityfibre.openreach.co.uk/
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Probably worth noting that from the T+C's this is for businesses only

The residential one states:
If there are businesses and other residents in your area who want to install a gigabit capable connection you may be able to benefit from a voucher worth £500 as part of a group project led by a supplier.
Edited by: "J1135" 9th May
J113509/05/2019 09:06

Probably worth noting that from the T+C's this is for businesses onlyThe …Probably worth noting that from the T+C's this is for businesses onlyThe residential one states:If there are businesses and other residents in your area who want to install a gigabit capable connection you may be able to benefit from a voucher worth £500 as part of a group project led by a supplier.



Who knows? I notice one of the grants was issued to a road! So I suspect that might be a (group) community of people.
i'm not sure who or what a 'supplier' is, an ISP? not openreach
Edited by: "jasee" 9th May
J113509/05/2019 09:06

Probably worth noting that from the T+C's this is for businesses onlyThe …Probably worth noting that from the T+C's this is for businesses onlyThe residential one states:If there are businesses and other residents in your area who want to install a gigabit capable connection you may be able to benefit from a voucher worth £500 as part of a group project led by a supplier.


This is just government language. It is envisaged that a successful project is likely to involve both businesses and residents, as businesses attract the higher grant. There is no exclusion if enough residents can get together to attract enough grant to pay for the upgrade. Speak to your local supplier and see if there is already a project you can join for your area and then apply for the grant. If there are no project, canvass your neighbours and see if you can get enough interests, say if there are 200 residents, that's £100,000 already.
tpol09/05/2019 10:02

This is just government language. It is envisaged that a successful …This is just government language. It is envisaged that a successful project is likely to involve both businesses and residents, as businesses attract the higher grant. There is no exclusion if enough residents can get together to attract enough grant to pay for the upgrade. Speak to your local supplier and see if there is already a project you can join for your area and then apply for the grant. If there are no project, canvass your neighbours and see if you can get enough interests, say if there are 200 residents, that's £100,000 already.



Does it work that way
jasee09/05/2019 10:19

Does it work that way


Clearly it works better if businesses get involved, particularly as the government is trying to promote economic growth. That would meet two of their objectives (fast broadband and economic growth). However, in terms of Ultra-Fast broadband, the government is fully aware that it cannot fund it everywhere. So it is prioritising by demand. If enough residents are interested enough to join a project and put in an application, then that shows commitment. It's all about demands and numbers. I guarantee you that if you got a 1000 residents in your area interested and there were no businesses at all, if the funds of £500K was enough for the upgrade, it would happen.


EDIT: Let me correct my earlier assertion on this. It seems businesses need to be involved as well as residents. For every business in the project group, ten residents can join. Apologies if I may have misled you earlier.
Edited by: "tpol" 9th May
Business pre tax get £2.5, consumers/groups get £500 post tax. Policies like chocolate buttons the U.K. has had for broadband since it started getting rolled out by BT.
seaniboy09/05/2019 18:42

Business pre tax get £2.5, consumers/groups get £500 post tax. Policies l …Business pre tax get £2.5, consumers/groups get £500 post tax. Policies like chocolate buttons the U.K. has had for broadband since it started getting rolled out by BT.



Do BT have a policy to roll out broadband? I don't see that they do. It's because they don't have a policy that schemes like this exist. They had a policy but Thatcher stopped it
Edited by: "jasee" 9th May
jasee09/05/2019 19:21

Do BT have a policy to roll out broadband? I don't see that they do. It's …Do BT have a policy to roll out broadband? I don't see that they do. It's because they don't have a policy that schemes like this exist. They had a policy but Thatcher stopped it




jasee09/05/2019 19:21

Do BT have a policy to roll out broadband? I don't see that they do. It's …Do BT have a policy to roll out broadband? I don't see that they do. It's because they don't have a policy that schemes like this exist. They had a policy but Thatcher stopped it


Legislation is cheap in comparison, putting tax into business profits isn’t good government. Tax should benefit society not private shareholders.

Maggie didn’t stop it, BT chose to do so after getting a massive asset not at cost.
Edited by: "seaniboy" 9th May
seaniboy09/05/2019 19:23

Legislation is cheap in comparison, putting tax into business profits …Legislation is cheap in comparison, putting tax into business profits isn’t good government. Tax should benefit society not private shareholders.



Unfortunately Thatcher split and privatised BT
seaniboy09/05/2019 19:23

Legislation is cheap in comparison, putting tax into business profits …Legislation is cheap in comparison, putting tax into business profits isn’t good government. Tax should benefit society not private shareholders.Maggie didn’t stop it, BT chose to do so after getting a massive asset not at cost.



Wrong. Bt had a plan to roll it out before they were privatised. They had two factories set up to manufacture the equipment. Thacher thought it wasn't 'competitive' so she stopped it
See
techradar.com/uk/…784
Edited by: "jasee" 10th May
Do you have fibre? It's worth checking. You may think you have fibre because the speed is (quite) fast. Up to 80Megabits per second is now possible with a 'normal' connection (that is connected to your telephone line) However it may vary in speed quite a bit because of contention ratio. Basically you share your line with a number of others. So, at peak times when everyone is at home or at weekends it will be slower. This also happens with a fiber connection.
So, why do you need fibre? One reason is to upload. Everything is becoming bigger. Even if your speed is 80Megabits your upload speed to the cloud is likely to be only a tenth of that or less. So it's going to take a very long time to backup your computer to a cloud (for instance) 4K videoes are four times the size of HD ones.
Unfortunately it seems that BT will only extend fiber where they have a lot of closely packed subscribers. So there are lots of places that will never get fibre. This probably makes sense to BT as they don't have the infrastructure to support the use of fibre anyway. They missed that chance in 1990. Through no fault of their own.
So for many, this scheme is the only way they're going to get. I don't think 4G or even 5G will solve the situation. Wireless is less reliable than an actual physical connection. As is satellite. I think having a fibre connection will soon be like having a mains water supply or a gas supply.
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