Giant Defy 3 2014 Road Bike £449.00 @ Rutland Cycling
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Giant Defy 3 2014 Road Bike £449.00 @ Rutland Cycling

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Found 8th Sep 2014
36% reduction from RRP.

Frame - Aluxx-Grade Aluminium
Fork - Advanced-Grade Composite, Alloy OverDrive Steerer
Handlebar - Giant Sport 31.8mm
Stem - Giant Sport
Seatpost - Giant Sport
Saddle - Giant Performance Road
Pedals - Wellgo With Toeclip
Shifters - Shimano Sora 18 Speed
Front Mech - Shimano Sora
Rear Mech - Shimano Sora
Brakes - Tektro TK-R312 Giant Specific, Dual Pivot
Brake Levers - Shimano Sora
Cassette - Sram PG950 11-32
Chain - KMC X9
Crankset - Shimano Sora 34/50
Bottom Bracket - Shimano Sora
Wheelset - Giant S-Elite C Wheelset
Tyres - Giant S-R4, Flat Guard, Front and Rear Specific, 700x25mm

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Good price, at least £50 cheaper than anywhere else so voted hot.

For anyone who cant stretch to £450 though why not consider a used one - last year's model goes for around £300 second hand on Gumtree:

gumtree.com/sea…ce=

ive been looking at this for the past week for this price and cant decide if i should go for it or not, i think the giants are easy to set up, but wish a local bike shop had them at these prices with the set up included and the folow up "bedding in" service...

i was going to do a bike to work scheme originally and get the new Defy 2 (cyclescheme.co.uk one via work) but its hardly worth it now if your a 20% rate tax payer, only if your on a higher tax band.. so then set my sights a little lower price wise if i'm paying outright.
Edited by: "neosalad" 8th Sep 2014

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neosalad

ive been looking at this for the past week for this price and cant … ive been looking at this for the past week for this price and cant decide if i should go for it or not, i think the giants are easy to set up, but wish a local bike shop had them at these prices with the set up included and the folow up "bedding in" service...i was going to do a bike to work scheme originally and get the new Defy 2 (cyclescheme.co.uk one via work) but its hardly worth it now if your a 20% rate tax payer, only if your on a higher tax band.. so then set my sights a little lower price wise if i'm paying outright.



I'm in the same boat. I'm stuck between this or the Beone Storm Race. Frame/brand vs components as it's full Tiagra. Both come to £450...

evans cycles are supposed to price match Rutland, they should set it up and give it a 6 week follow up service.

evanscycles.com/hel…tch

cycle 2 work schemes can work well even for 20% taxpayers depending on the scheme. My company runs its own scheme so we are able to get bikes from anywhere and after 12 months the company allow free use of the bike. After 5 years the market value is considered negligible on a sub £500 so if you are then offered it after 5 years you pay nothing end up saving just over 30% from savings on tax and National Insurance. The market value of the bike is considered 18% after 1 year and if you were offered/wanted to purchase it then (schemes do not permit companies from guaranteeing that they will offer the bike for purchase but I think generally they do) and were required to pay this figure savings are much reduced (cost of the bike would be broadly £400) but again some schemes will offer you the bike for nothing and you are then simply liable for tax on the gift so if the bike cost £450 it would be considered that the company had paid you £81 so you would be liable to pay £16 tax so still a big saving- i.e the bike would have cost approx £330 - I accept not all schemes allow this.

I picked up this bike a few weeks ago on a cycle2work scheme and am pleased so far but haven't used it much due to holiday. It has rack mounts which are handy for commuting.

spm

evans cycles are supposed to price match Rutland, they should set it up … evans cycles are supposed to price match Rutland, they should set it up and give it a 6 week follow up service.http://www.evanscycles.com/help/price-match



evans don't sell Giant though

neosalad

evans don't sell Giant though



daft suggestion by me then! - I assumed that Evans sold all the mainstream brands. I bought mine from Tredz as they had a good discount code at the time.

This is a good bike!

Quality brand and quality components.

Stop it!


I've just ordered the Felt from Merlin hotukdeals.com/dea…859

I don't want to see or hear of anything that might be a better deal. OK ?

Rev6 - I'd go with the BeOne - great bikes.

The Felt mentioned previously is a much better buy/deal.I have one and am very impressed with quality of parts and ride. The Giant RRP is way out when you look at components.

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greg3421

The Felt mentioned previously is a much better buy/deal.I have one and am … The Felt mentioned previously is a much better buy/deal.I have one and am very impressed with quality of parts and ride. The Giant RRP is way out when you look at components.



I don't think the Felt is a much better deal. The Giant has the better frame, better finishing parts and the RRP on the Felt is abnormally high too.

rev6

I don't think the Felt is a much better deal. The Giant has the better … I don't think the Felt is a much better deal. The Giant has the better frame, better finishing parts and the RRP on the Felt is abnormally high too.



i agree, i had really been doing my homework the past couple of weeks on the bikes and the various good buys and reviews.. the defys are consistently up there at the top... for their class (sportiff bike) imfo the Defy is a better deal, plus the felt only has a few sizes left, no good for me i'm afraid even if i wanted one.

Original Poster

I still can't decide. How are Rutland for customer support?

Me too.. Had this on my basket again last night and this morning... just couldnt go through with it in the end. lol
Its the risk when they are far from where you live but saying that.... I've read mainly good and not so much bad about them..
But they can't be too bad if they won some kind of Bike Biz (i have no idea who they are mind) award for Independant retailer of the year or been finalists since 2010... beating the mighty Wheelbase.
Edited by: "neosalad" 9th Sep 2014

Ive always found Evans' prices a tad high and they never used to sell campag, so they weren't that much use to me, to be honest...

bike radar score 4 out of 5 and only really complain about the weight of the wheels and could do with another gear, other than that very complimentary, sounds pretty good for £450.

I have bought 2 bikes from rutland this year and both have paid out on quidco, £8 and £6, not a lot but better than nothing.

bikeradar.com/gea…58/
Edited by: "bollybobinson" 13th Sep 2014

That FELT has a BRILLIANT spec for the money

Can someone explain the tyres on this bike please - they look quite 'deep'? Do they have a special name?

A friend of mine was telling me recently that racing bikes have changed from having narrow shallow tyres, which they have had for decades, to now having narrow but deep tyres. He told me that this stops racing bikes crashing when there is a puncture.

Unlike the shallow tyres, which used to go bang and could cause a nasty accident, he said that these new thin but deep tyres now are less likely to go bang when there is a puncture and hence are safer.

Is this true? Anyone know? Do these tyres have a special name?

Looks a great bike.

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tawse57

Can someone explain the tyres on this bike please - they look quite … Can someone explain the tyres on this bike please - they look quite 'deep'? Do they have a special name?A friend of mine was telling me recently that racing bikes have changed from having narrow shallow tyres, which they have had for decades, to now having narrow but deep tyres. He told me that this stops racing bikes crashing when there is a puncture.Unlike the shallow tyres, which used to go bang and could cause a nasty accident, he said that these new thin but deep tyres now are less likely to go bang when there is a puncture and hence are safer.Is this true? Anyone know? Do these tyres have a special name?Looks a great bike.



They don't look any different to me. Most road bikes (2013/2014) have 23mm tires which were the "in thing". They are slowly moving back to 25mm which to me are much better. The Giant comes with 25mm tires.

rev6

They don't look any different to me. Most road bikes (2013/2014) have … They don't look any different to me. Most road bikes (2013/2014) have 23mm tires which were the "in thing". They are slowly moving back to 25mm which to me are much better. The Giant comes with 25mm tires.




Thanks.

Weren't they much less than this years ago - about 10mm or less?

I ride mountain bikes but have noticed, of late, that the new racing bikes do have these deeper tyres which, I now know, are in the 25 mm ball park area. I don't recall them being anywhere near that deep when I was riding racing bikes 20 years ago.

Original Poster

tawse57

Thanks.Weren't they much less than this years ago - about 10mm or less?I … Thanks.Weren't they much less than this years ago - about 10mm or less?I ride mountain bikes but have noticed, of late, that the new racing bikes do have these deeper tyres which, I now know, are in the 25 mm ball park area. I don't recall them being anywhere near that deep when I was riding racing bikes 20 years ago.



You can buy 18mm, but 10mm sounds really scary. 25mm are just right.

rev6

You can buy 18mm, but 10mm sounds really scary. 25mm are just right.




OK, thanks.

tawse57

Can someone explain the tyres on this bike please - they look quite … Can someone explain the tyres on this bike please - they look quite 'deep'? Do they have a special name?A friend of mine was telling me recently that racing bikes have changed from having narrow shallow tyres, which they have had for decades, to now having narrow but deep tyres. He told me that this stops racing bikes crashing when there is a puncture.Unlike the shallow tyres, which used to go bang and could cause a nasty accident, he said that these new thin but deep tyres now are less likely to go bang when there is a puncture and hence are safer.Is this true? Anyone know? Do these tyres have a special name?Looks a great bike.


I don't know about how it affects blowouts, but that bike has 700x25 tyres, if you were going for pure speed, you would probably go for 700x23 or less tyres. However the 700x25 aren't that much slower and give you more comfort while riding. So better for a sportive type of bike (which is what this is). I have 700x25 on my racing bike (continental gatorskins) and personally couldn't imagine using a 700x23 as the roads are just too bad around here (East London).
Edited by: "perfectmark" 13th Sep 2014

perfectmark

I don't know about how it affects blowouts, but that bike has 700x25 … I don't know about how it affects blowouts, but that bike has 700x25 tyres, if you were going for pure speed, you would probably go for 700x23 or less tyres. However the 700x25 aren't that much slower and give you more comfort while riding. So better for a sportive type of bike (which is what this is). I have 700x25 on my racing bike (continental gatorskins) and personally couldn't imagine using a 700x23 as the roads are just too bad around here (East London). Ah, right. Thanks for taking the time to explain that. It makes a lot of sense. Yes, losing a bit of speed for some comfort is sensible IMPO.

worth while considering the Defy 1 at £699 as well, it has 10 speed tiagra /105: mcconveycycles.com/sto…ue/

perfectmark

I don't know about how it affects blowouts, but that bike has 700x25 … I don't know about how it affects blowouts, but that bike has 700x25 tyres, if you were going for pure speed, you would probably go for 700x23 or less tyres. However the 700x25 aren't that much slower and give you more comfort while riding. So better for a sportive type of bike (which is what this is). I have 700x25 on my racing bike (continental gatorskins) and personally couldn't imagine using a 700x23 as the roads are just too bad around here (East London).



There is some research that actually suggests that 25mm tyres are quicker and have less rolling resistance on the roads most people in the uk will be riding on (rough and rubbish!!) - I'll see if i can find it.- it is something to do with the shape the tyre makes when in contact with the road.

also 25mm can run at lower pressures and so can be more comfortable

Here it is - competitivecyclist.com/lea…-23

http://www.backcountry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Rolling-Resistance-Conti-571x440.jpg
Edited by: "chrisbass" 13th Sep 2014

Considered this along with the Felt mentioned earlier and then decided on the Felt. It arrived Tuesday and wow I'm glad I went for the Felt. Looks great and rides great. Components really good for price.

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peter361

Considered this along with the Felt mentioned earlier and then decided on … Considered this along with the Felt mentioned earlier and then decided on the Felt. It arrived Tuesday and wow I'm glad I went for the Felt. Looks great and rides great. Components really good for price.



The Giant has more comfortable tires, better overall components, the better frame, better warranty (lifetime for the frame) headset guides so no chain rubbing, pedals supplied, and a much better gear ratio. Felt is great though.

Personally I think the Merlin PR7 is a much better option than this and is only £299, comes with carbon fork, and full shimano claris gearset. Lots of bike for little money

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sdingsdale

Personally I think the Merlin PR7 is a much better option than this and … Personally I think the Merlin PR7 is a much better option than this and is only £299, comes with carbon fork, and full shimano claris gearset. Lots of bike for little money



£30 delivery.

So, this is much better than the felt?

Hi guys
Just driven to Rutland cycles from the north of england to pickup a defy 3 for 449 as i wanted one for saturday and they couldnt deliver next day but said i could collect same day! Rang them at 11 in the morning and arranged to collect at 4. Couldn't have been more helpful. Arrived at 4 and bike all ready. Sales chap talked me through operation of sora gears and was keen to have bike in six weeks for free check up spent half an hour with me explaining they are one of the largest giant dealers in the country and have just bought 2000 of this model and are selling about 10 a day which is how they can do them at this price. He even helped me load into car with cardboard round to protect it. Excellent service would use them again. Going out tomorrow to do kirkstone pass in lake district for first ride out.

perfectmark

I don't know about how it affects blowouts, but that bike has 700x25 … I don't know about how it affects blowouts, but that bike has 700x25 tyres, if you were going for pure speed, you would probably go for 700x23 or less tyres. However the 700x25 aren't that much slower and give you more comfort while riding. So better for a sportive type of bike (which is what this is). I have 700x25 on my racing bike (continental gatorskins) and personally couldn't imagine using a 700x23 as the roads are just too bad around here (East London).

blowouts? we get punctures in Scotland! If you are one of the 1% or riders who race bikes then seconds of speed are important I suppose. The other 99% of us aren't bothered

Love the felt i bought - really quick. All the good reviews are justified although the self-build was a bit if a pain.

neosalad

evans don't sell Giant though



Get it price matched by Cycle Surgery and then use your CycleScheme vouchers there

shabibijunior

Get it price matched by Cycle Surgery and then use your CycleScheme … Get it price matched by Cycle Surgery and then use your CycleScheme vouchers there




i got it from a loca (ish)l bike shop who was £499 in the end who would have matched the Rutland price (but without the follow sup servie and 12 month service) which is fair enough...
I offered to meet me half way (£475) on Rutlands price, if i could still get those.. and he did. so i am quite happy with that.
just got my cages to match it today from CRC within a day of ordering.
just got to get my pedals and shoes now.
cant decide between Shimano R064 (£37) or Dhb (wiggle) R1.0 (white ones to match the bike) for £32
i tried on the Shimanos and 44 seem a little too tight for comfort, so may need to go to 45, hows DHB sizing in comparison , reviews sometiems say to size up, some dont... but 9 in shimano = EUR 44... normally 9=43 so i am not sure if they mean a size up in the EUr size or the UK size.. (where 45 would be uk 9.5)
i am normally uk 9 , EUR 43 in shoes/trainers.



Edited by: "neosalad" 14th Sep 2014

Meh ..2 a penny

Thanks OP.

Chris

neosalad

i got it from a loca (ish)l bike shop who was £499 in the end who would … i got it from a loca (ish)l bike shop who was £499 in the end who would have matched the Rutland price (but without the follow sup servie and 12 month service) which is fair enough...I offered to meet me half way (£475) on Evans price, if i could still get those.. and he did. so i am quite happy with that.just got my cages to match it today from CRC within a day of ordering.just got to get my pedals and shoes now.cant decide between Shimano R064 (£37) or Dhb (wiggle) R1.0 (white ones to match the bike) for £32i tried on the Shimanos and 44 seem a little too tight for comfort, so may need to go to 45, hows DHB sizing in comparison , reviews sometiems say to size up, some dont... but 9 in shimano = EUR 44... normally 9=43 so i am not sure if they mean a size up in the EUr size or the UK size.. (where 45 would be uk 9.5)i am normally uk 9 , EUR 43 in shoes/trainers.



I had a size 45 in DHB shoes and I'm a 9.5 to 10, 10 in trainers and 9.5 in formal shoes. DHB kit is excellent value for money. Hope this helps?

road.cc/con…oes

Bazza71

I had a size 45 in DHB shoes and I'm a 9.5 to 10, 10 in trainers and 9.5 … I had a size 45 in DHB shoes and I'm a 9.5 to 10, 10 in trainers and 9.5 in formal shoes. DHB kit is excellent value for money. Hope this helps?http://road.cc/content/review/58894-dhb-r10-road-cycling-shoes



yeah, i have a few DHB things, all top quality..
i couldnt decide between white DHB or the silver/black shimano's , lol.. I'm certainly no Pro.. but thought the white may look better with the bike, though i know they'll get dirtier easier.
with watching all the pro cytcling, it seems weird to see black cycling shoes now, as they all wear white nearly!

neosalad

yeah, i have a few DHB things, all top quality..i couldnt decide between … yeah, i have a few DHB things, all top quality..i couldnt decide between white DHB or the silver/black shimano's , lol.. I'm certainly no Pro.. but thought the white may look better with the bike, though i know they'll get dirtier easier.with watching all the pro cytcling, it seems weird to see black cycling shoes now, as they all wear white nearly!



I've got black, but that's because the other option was yellow, and you need to be good to carry off yellow:)

I'd take the dhb, as the shimano look as though they've only got 2 straps, 3 straps should allow for a better fit. Finally, the dhb shoes look better, but that is subjective.
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