Giant Escape 3 2014  21" Bike £209.29 @ Winstanleys bikes
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Giant Escape 3 2014 21" Bike £209.29 @ Winstanleys bikes

£209.29£298.9930%winstanleys bikes Deals
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Found 19th Feb
RRP £298.99. / 21"
Built with an ALUXX aluminium frame and a wide range of easy-to-operate gearing, Escape is a fun, efficient way to leave your daily stresses behind. Its smooth-rolling 700c wheels and stable frame geometry make it fast and sporty enough for a fitness routine and comfortable enough for the commute. Fully equipped, Escape City is your weapon against congestion featuring a lightweight ALUXX aluminium frame, 700c large diameter wheels, hill taming gears and a comfortable riding position you can have it all with Escape City.


  • Frame: ALUXX Grade Aluminum
  • Forks: High Tensile Chromoly Steel
  • Crankset: Shimano M131 28/38/48
  • Bottom Bracket: Shimano BB UN26
  • Pedals: Giant Sports
  • Front Derailleur: Shimano Tourney
  • Rear Derailleur: Shimano Tourney TX55
  • Shifters: Shimano EZ FIRE 40 21 speed
  • Cassette: Shimano TZ31 14-34 freewheel
  • Chain: KMC Z51
  • Hubs: Joytech
  • Rims: Giant GX02
  • Tyres: Giant S-X3 700x32mm
  • Brakes: Tektro TK837
  • Brake Levers: Shimano EZ FIRE 40
  • Handlebars: Giant Sport Low riser 620x31.8mm
  • Stem: Giant Sport
  • Saddle: Giant Connect Upright
  • Seatpost: Giant Sport
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Hmm, a good low end bike, easily as good as the halfords axle deal that popped up recently.
Seems like an ok budget bike. Shame about the limited size choice.
Probably faster than the Axle but has more road orientated 700c wheels so won't be able to handle light off road use as well. Like the Axle it has a low end BSO drivetrain of tourney components and freewheel but Giant frames are brilliant quality normally. Probably a pretty good choice for lighter riders, fair weather riders or those who ride infrequently.

2014 though, have they been stuck in a timewarp or something. 2017 I can understand, 2016 for a few bits of stock, 2015 seems unlikely and then 2014 which normally come out in late 2013 that's like 5 years old. Wonder why such old stock is still available. Giant doing some spring cleaning at the warehouse.
Edited by: "bonzobanana" 19th Feb
bonzobanana10 h, 31 m ago

Probably faster than the Axle but has more road orientated 700c wheels so …Probably faster than the Axle but has more road orientated 700c wheels so won't be able to handle light off road use as well. Like the Axle it has a low end BSO drivetrain of tourney components and freewheel but Giant frames are brilliant quality normally. Probably a pretty good choice for lighter riders, fair weather riders or those who ride infrequently.2014 though, have they been stuck in a timewarp or something. 2017 I can understand, 2016 for a few bits of stock, 2015 seems unlikely and then 2014 which normally come out in late 2013 that's like 5 years old. Wonder why such old stock is still available. Giant doing some spring cleaning at the warehouse.


tbh on inner city canal paths that are tarmac or compounded hardcore I would expect the 32 tread on those tyre to take the absorption fairly well albeit definitely not an offroad bike as Giant infer.
Good bikes but 21" only in black only.
£29 more than the Axle too - that's over 16%.

Still hot though, for the right person.
Edited by: "Besford" 20th Feb
Bertz993 h, 39 m ago

tbh on inner city canal paths that are tarmac or compounded hardcore I …tbh on inner city canal paths that are tarmac or compounded hardcore I would expect the 32 tread on those tyre to take the absorption fairly well albeit definitely not an offroad bike as Giant infer.


Compared to the Axle though which is really pretty much the same as Subway just with a freewheel and V brakes rather than freehub and disc brakes it won't be as versatile. In fact a few cheap upgrades of the Axle will bring it up to a pretty good rigid mountain bike spec.

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Plus you would need a 7 speed spacer which is probably a £1 or something from aliexpress.

You might get £10-20 for your old wheel and freewheel meaning an upgrade cost as low as £30. You can then pretty much abuse the bike and take it where you want without risk of bending the rear axle of the wheel with crisper gear changes thanks to eliminating freewheel wobble. The Axle frame will certainly take it, the frame is straight from the mountain bike range and 27.5" wheels are now the strongest available now that 26" is generally out of favour. Looking at the 2017 Giant Escape 3 there seems to be no difference in spec but it seems to be classed as on road only and more a city bike description. It's in the City bike and Hybrid section but really no mention of off road versatility.
bonzobanana45 m ago

Compared to the Axle though which is really pretty much the same as Subway …Compared to the Axle though which is really pretty much the same as Subway just with a freewheel and V brakes rather than freehub and disc brakes it won't be as versatile. In fact a few cheap upgrades of the Axle will bring it up to a pretty good rigid mountain bike spec.https://www.taylor-wheels.com/bike-wheels/26-inch-bike-wheel/26-inch-rear-wheels/taylor-wheels-26inch-bike-rear-wheel-double-wall-rim-shimano-acera-hub-silverhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Sram-Cassettes-PG730-Speed-Cassette/dp/B000NNQJ5O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1519124603&sr=8-6&keywords=7+speed+cassettePlus you would need a 7 speed spacer which is probably a £1 or something from aliexpress.You might get £10-20 for your old wheel and freewheel meaning an upgrade cost as low as £30. You can then pretty much abuse the bike and take it where you want without risk of bending the rear axle of the wheel with crisper gear changes thanks to eliminating freewheel wobble. The Axle frame will certainly take it, the frame is straight from the mountain bike range and 27.5" wheels are now the strongest available now that 26" is generally out of favour. Looking at the 2017 Giant Escape 3 there seems to be no difference in spec but it seems to be classed as on road only and more a city bike description. It's in the City bike and Hybrid section but really no mention of off road versatility.



Don't see the relevance of most of what you are saying there to either the demographic this deal would suit or what I was commenting on (voted hot btw OP and cheers for those this may be of interest to).

What I was picking up on was your quote in relation to the bike above "road orientated 700c wheels so won't be able to handle light off road use as well" which isn't necessarily true.

I see many bikes similar to this that are more than capable of hitting the 13 mile stretch of the canal side where I live which has been either tarmac'd or has gravel that has been compounded specifically for cyclists of whatever flavour to make use of and hits my definition of what is light off road use.

The point I was making was some absorption will be taken by the extra width of the tyre alongside the extra grip and this bike will cope as is albeit concur Giant inferring it being fully off road is a bit of a stretch.

However, besides the width on these tyre and what impact that has on riding I also see fully fledged race bikes with 700x23 doing the same stretch of the canal I am talking about that you infer must be road use only - the only time they slow down where I don't need to on 35 tyres is on the cobbled sections that mainly occur under the bridges, yet day in and day out they seem to be coping the rest albeit there be less bikes in total on these routes when icy.
Edited by: "Bertz99" 20th Feb
My point is the Axle is only one step away from being a fully rigid mountain bike like the Subway. It can handle rough surfaces, potholes, deep mud, even some minor drops and jumps. It's extremely versatile as a bike that you can abuse and take anywhere. The Giant makes no claims to be such a bike and isn't setup that way. It depends on what the buyer wants but there is some distance between the two bikes.

If you want a low maintenance off road bike while the Subway is better straight out of the box the Axle is easily converted for low money. Not something the Giant is capable of in my opinion.


bonzobanana3 h, 24 m ago

My point is the Axle is only one step away from being a fully rigid …My point is the Axle is only one step away from being a fully rigid mountain bike like the Subway. It can handle rough surfaces, potholes, deep mud, even some minor drops and jumps. It's extremely versatile as a bike that you can abuse and take anywhere. The Giant makes no claims to be such a bike and isn't setup that way. It depends on what the buyer wants but there is some distance between the two bikes. If you want a low maintenance off road bike while the Subway is better straight out of the box the Axle is easily converted for low money. Not something the Giant is capable of in my opinion.[Video]



Yep just double checked and it was a reviewer and one of the companies selling that misquoted offroad from Giant rather than Giant themselves.

The axle and hellcat (two other recent good deals) are slightly different to this though, also not too sure I would advocate your suggested 26" wheel on a 27.5 designed bike (am presuming link issue). Also not sure the demographic looking at a starter bike would be immediately thinking about upgrades. Besides the cost in time and parts that may require time spent learning and tools plus ancillaries rather than just increasing their budget and getting something more suitable to begin with and using as they wished.

However, I still stick to my point which I was commenting on that this would cope with light off roads such a canal side cycle paths for someone considering for this for their commute and not a bad price for what it is. It is, of course, never going to be suitable for trails.
Edited by: "Bertz99" 20th Feb
I actually searched 27.5" but Taylors don't appear to have a budget 27.5" wheel and 26" came up instead which I didn't notice. One here a bit more expensive but not much because Taylors add about £8 for postage anyway.

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I would always strongly suggest to go straight for the Subway over the Axle but at least the Axle has an upgrade route to a full rigid mountain bike at low cost. Like you I would not suggest buy a bike and upgrade immediately but sometimes people need a low entry price and then upgrade later. I don't like the drivetrain on this Escape 3 either and although it won't enable it to be much better off road for sheer reliability and strength a freehub upgrade could be done later too. This is again looks like a model compromised to reach a price point and probably all the dearer models abandon the crappy BSO freewheel and use freehubs or at least an improved drivetrain.
bonzobanana1 h, 41 m ago

I actually searched 27.5" but Taylors don't appear to have a budget 27.5" …I actually searched 27.5" but Taylors don't appear to have a budget 27.5" wheel and 26" came up instead which I didn't notice. One here a bit more expensive but not much because Taylors add about £8 for postage anyway.https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tru-build-Wheels-Wheel-Cassette-V-Brake/dp/B017MGSE52/ref=sr_1_4?s=cycling&ie=UTF8&qid=1519144854&sr=1-4&keywords=27.5"+rear+wheelI would always strongly suggest to go straight for the Subway over the Axle but at least the Axle has an upgrade route to a full rigid mountain bike at low cost. Like you I would not suggest buy a bike and upgrade immediately but sometimes people need a low entry price and then upgrade later. I don't like the drivetrain on this Escape 3 either and although it won't enable it to be much better off road for sheer reliability and strength a freehub upgrade could be done later too. This is again looks like a model compromised to reach a price point and probably all the dearer models abandon the crappy BSO freewheel and use freehubs or at least an improved drivetrain.


Those other bikes also have compromises with the most expensive, the Subway, being 2kg heavier and with tektro aries mechanical brakes. Can't help notice the the Subway overview states to save weight it has dropped the front suspension yet is still just shy of 15kg (just imagine how heavy it would be with hydraulics and front suspension).

My own preference on those 3, for a hybrid, would be this one which is the lightest followed by the Axle in this price range.

Out of interest when does a freewheel not become of BSO specification? The premise there is Shimano's is rated second tier and they have not rested on their laurels in their freewheel design regardless of free hubs being everything above entry level to them with exceptions in a few specific disciplines.
The Subway is a basically a rigid mountain bike, reinforced thicker frame, 27.5" wheels and all the stronger parts you expect of such a bike it only shaves off about 1kg against a hardtail mountain bike of similar components and price due to having rigid forks. Halfords call it a hybrid but it takes absolutely nothing from a road bike. You can pretty much see how it compares in weight just by looking at the similar equipped Carrera mountain bikes although saying that Halfords only give very approximate weights so actually you can't see the weight difference but it will be around 1kg I believe probably a bit less. The Subway 1 is sub 14kg and something like the Valour well over. Valour has V brakes instead of disc but similar apart from that. The Giant bike should be significantly lighter than Subway. The equivalent in the Halfords range is probably in the Voodoo or Boardman models but I don't think either range has any low end tourney drivetrain models like the Giant.
bonzobanana21st Feb

The Subway is a basically a rigid mountain bike, reinforced thicker frame, …The Subway is a basically a rigid mountain bike, reinforced thicker frame, 27.5" wheels and all the stronger parts you expect of such a bike it only shaves off about 1kg against a hardtail mountain bike of similar components and price due to having rigid forks. Halfords call it a hybrid but it takes absolutely nothing from a road bike. You can pretty much see how it compares in weight just by looking at the similar equipped Carrera mountain bikes although saying that Halfords only give very approximate weights so actually you can't see the weight difference but it will be around 1kg I believe probably a bit less. The Subway 1 is sub 14kg and something like the Valour well over. Valour has V brakes instead of disc but similar apart from that. The Giant bike should be significantly lighter than Subway. The equivalent in the Halfords range is probably in the Voodoo or Boardman models but I don't think either range has any low end tourney drivetrain models like the Giant.


Cycle republic (the dedicated bike subsidiary of Halfords) gives its approximate weight at 14.9 kg:

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Otherwise yes I am agreeing with you that it really isn't a hybrid other than in label and really should not be compared to a hybrid like the OP has posted for someone seeking a hybrid per say. That extra weight would though generate extra exercise.

As for the Voodoo or Boardman they also are not quite in this price bracket when I last checked?
Edited by: "Bertz99" 22nd Feb
Bertz9922nd Feb

Cycle republic (the dedicated bike subsidiary of Halfords) gives its …Cycle republic (the dedicated bike subsidiary of Halfords) gives its approximate weight at 14.9 kg: [Image] Otherwise yes I am agreeing with you that it really isn't a hybrid other than in label and really should not be compared to a hybrid like the OP has posted for someone seeking a hybrid per say. That extra weight would though generate extra exercise.As for the Voodoo or Boardman they also are not quite in this price bracket when I last checked?


Front suspension shocks are normally heavier than rigid forks by some margin so there should be some weight saving with the subway but it depends on other parts. They aren't in the same price bracket as I pointed out but represent a similar configuration. Probably btwin have something to match the Giant although the frame will be likely much weaker and definitely lower rider weight limits.
bonzobanana23 m ago

Front suspension shocks are normally heavier than rigid forks by some …Front suspension shocks are normally heavier than rigid forks by some margin so there should be some weight saving with the subway but it depends on other parts. They aren't in the same price bracket as I pointed out but represent a similar configuration. Probably btwin have something to match the Giant although the frame will be likely much weaker and definitely lower rider weight limits.


Yep I know they are hence why I said can you imagine what it would weigh with hydraulics and suspension when the given approximate weight is 14.9kg for the subway 1.

Lots of probabilities and lots of other things albeit struggle to see anything other than whimiscal notions in relevance to this cheap relatively light weight good value hybrid commuter bike beyond somebody being of a heavier set it may not be suitable.

Not that I don' think you have some valid points just the majority, imo, may be suited to other more apt posts than this one, and unlike on steel vs carbon where we both clearly have opposite views I thought I'd join you on this one. Hope you didn't mind.
Edited by: "Bertz99" 23rd Feb
Need to point out too that Halford's given weights have a history on inaccuracy I've seen people report much lower weights that stated. Bikes vary a bit by frame size too. It's very hard to make any decisive points about the weights of their bikes same as the spec. The same subway has steel forks mentioned on the main description and aluminium on the spec section. I tend to take a magnet with me if bike shopping just so I can see where the steel and aluminium is which is often a lot more revealing than what the salesman says.

My issue with bikes is the average weight of a man in the UK is about 82kg and some bikes like btwin only just cater for that average weight. As a heavy rider I tend to point this out especially when you read people getting back to cycling over 100kg and a btwin bike is recommended which is extremely dangerous. A carbon fork often has a warranty of 1 or 2 years where as steel can be lifetime. I tend to think that while you are above 85-90kg you should focus on a strong bike and below that you can enjoy a faster lighter bike like many of btwin's brilliant bikes around the £500 mark.

The Giant and the Carrera Axle to me have low grade low quality drivetrains which I would always recommend to avoid however while passable for a road bike should never be fitted to a mountain bike. I don't like such drivetrains on BSO's or any other bike to be honest.

Many years ago won an auction on ebay for a nearly new Kona Lanai (2004 model I think) it cost £300-330 instore but I paid something like £140 including delivery, I was 18 stone at the time. Many people had recommended the Kona even their entry level bikes and reviews were good. When I got the bike I was surprised just how terrible it was, at first I thought the components had been switched out to lower quality parts but no on checking everything was stock. Freewheel wobble, terrible forks, clicking bottom bracket, everything was just basic and low end. In fact sub £100 bikes had better components in a few places. The only thing that set it apart from similar bikes half its normal price was the rear derailleur being Altus. The rear wheel threads were so poorly machined that freewheel wobble was excessive and getting the gears to work properly was adjusting to very fine tolerances. The frame was generic and poor. I later learned that most big brands produce junk bikes at entry level purely to soak up consumers who stupidly buy by brand rather than product and I was one although paid a fair price for what I got but was expecting a bargain. At least with the Giant I suspect you will be getting a very decent frame not the case with the Lanai. Still today I see many big brands selling junk bikes for £300-400 with BSO components as mountain bikes. The same money will buy a decent entry level mountain bike at Halfords and Btwin. I was going to say Go Outdoors too but they don't seem to have any decent entry level bikes in their Calibre mountain bike range currently, they did a year or so ago.

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