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Great 2070 price and saving over RRP everywhere. Again, taking advantage of the ebay code. You also get 2 free games as normal, Wolfenstein and Control. Personally, I think the 2060 deal I shared is a better value for money than this as this is £110 more and this card is a little longer, which might not suit everyone's case and for the performance difference, I dont think its worth it personally but only my humble opinion!

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I would be too wary of buying one of these right now. I reckon we will see a big sell off of 2070 and 2080 cards.
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I would be too wary of buying one of these right now. I reckon we will see a big sell off of 2070 and 2080 cards.
I know it's got a stock blower on but I scored a 5700xt for £340 the other day a £52 saving over this and it pretty much murders this card it's more like the new super version so not really a good buy anymore.
polly6917/07/2019 09:10

I know it's got a stock blower on but I scored a 5700xt for £340 the other …I know it's got a stock blower on but I scored a 5700xt for £340 the other day a £52 saving over this and it pretty much murders this card it's more like the new super version so not really a good buy anymore.


But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more difficult when the Navi cards were announced without ray tracing.
Not a super, not worth it
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 09:15

But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more …But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more difficult when the Navi cards were announced without ray tracing.


But DLSS is proprietary to Nvidia, AMD have their own version which is independent of the games.
With regards Ray tracing, you will need a 2080 to get decent framerate, 2070 at a pinch but it's not ready for mainstream till next gen.
guy_good17/07/2019 09:28

Not a super, not worth it


Super is about 10-15% faster for about 20% more than this. Seems reasonable to me.
guy_good17/07/2019 09:28

Not a super, not worth it


This is cheaper than the equivalent 2060 super and more powerful. So this is worth it for anyone looking at a 2060s.
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 09:15

But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more …But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more difficult when the Navi cards were announced without ray tracing.



Just like tesselation with first gen cards back in the GTX 400 and HD 5000 era, yes they *can* do it, but it crippled performance so much was it really wroth it? Same for RT. It will be good in the generation that follows, but right now it isn't really worth it.

So atm we should just judge these cards on merit of pure performance and value rather than RT. When next gen hardware hits and games use RT effects more, these cards will realy struggle and RT on lower settings doesn't really add much anyway while still taking away a good chunk of performance.
Edited by: "3anana" 17th Jul
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 09:15

But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more …But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more difficult when the Navi cards were announced without ray tracing.


Yeah they have something which is literally better than DLSS in almost every way:
Performance on pair with 2060 super. But older tech.
8gb seems excessive but overall a great card. Thanks!
TankDeal17/07/2019 11:03

Performance on pair with 2060 super. But older tech.


It's the same generation of tech. The 2060 only released a short time back anyway.
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 09:15

But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more …But no real time ray tracing or dlss. Made the decision so much more difficult when the Navi cards were announced without ray tracing.


It made the decision easier for me. Pay for an overpriced GPU, which its main selling points are gimmicks that I don't care about and unable to use, or purchase a card which is cheaper and pretty much what I need?

No brainer.
Bradmonk17/07/2019 11:38

It made the decision easier for me. Pay for an overpriced GPU, which its …It made the decision easier for me. Pay for an overpriced GPU, which its main selling points are gimmicks that I don't care about and unable to use, or purchase a card which is cheaper and pretty much what I need?No brainer.


My only problem is I want my graphics card to keep pace with the next gen consoles which will both apparently have ray tracing, so it will start appearing in games more etc.... I guess buy the 5700 xt then upgrade after ray tracing is more common. Just wish there was better cooling on the 5700s already.
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 12:12

My only problem is I want my graphics card to keep pace with the next gen …My only problem is I want my graphics card to keep pace with the next gen consoles which will both apparently have ray tracing, so it will start appearing in games more etc.... I guess buy the 5700 xt then upgrade after ray tracing is more common. Just wish there was better cooling on the 5700s already.


Ray tracing seems like marketing to me, check out the youtube comparisons. It barely does anything, literally unnoticable.

1. It'll be an option in all PC games, turn it off if you don't want it, as I can assure you, you won't. The performance hit isn't worth it.
2. The 5700XT blows this card out of the water, i.redd.it/v9z…png. At stock it's quicker, drivers will improve and it'll get faster no doubt, OC'd it demolishes the RTX 2070 super OC'd. And it's cheaper.


Definately by the XT if you don't have any brand favorites. Ray tracing is garbage and as far as I can tell a clever marketing stint, it'll always be an option ingame and won't be forced on the player, and if is navi will handle it. Bear in mind microsoft have announced Project Scarlett will use Navi, I doubt they'd use software features which would cripple their own gpu.
zeb.mattey17/07/2019 12:27

Ray tracing seems like marketing to me


Raytracing has been a holy grail of realtime graphics for literal decades. It isn't 'new' technology nor something which is going to disappear, but it will be a few years until it's matured into something a bit more performant and ready for mass consumption (RTX for consumers was premature, but really big for workstation). Raytracing definitely is not a 'marketing gimmick'.
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 12:12

My only problem is I want my graphics card to keep pace with the next gen …My only problem is I want my graphics card to keep pace with the next gen consoles which will both apparently have ray tracing, so it will start appearing in games more etc.... I guess buy the 5700 xt then upgrade after ray tracing is more common. Just wish there was better cooling on the 5700s already.


To be honest, there's nothing to say that AMD can't implement their own form of ray tracing using the navi hardware. I think it is on the cards but it is one of those wait and see moments.
Badongkadong17/07/2019 13:40

To be honest, there's nothing to say that AMD can't implement their own …To be honest, there's nothing to say that AMD can't implement their own form of ray tracing using the navi hardware. I think it is on the cards but it is one of those wait and see moments.


Don't know if it's Nvidia marketing or not but the rtx have dedicated cores for ray tracing. Dunno if they are required or not though.
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 13:41

Don't know if it's Nvidia marketing or not but the rtx have dedicated …Don't know if it's Nvidia marketing or not but the rtx have dedicated cores for ray tracing. Dunno if they are required or not though.


They're dedicated subunits for ray tracing but even then, unless you have a 2070 and above it's such a huge performance hit. In fact, the recent implementation of Quake II required a 2080 (ti)? to run and that's an ancient game! Ray tracing is definitely worth it but the hardware needs another generation to catch up AND be affordable. Having to pay over £400 for anything close to acceptable performance to run it is just a joke...
Adam_Shippam17/07/2019 12:12

My only problem is I want my graphics card to keep pace with the next gen …My only problem is I want my graphics card to keep pace with the next gen consoles which will both apparently have ray tracing, so it will start appearing in games more etc.... I guess buy the 5700 xt then upgrade after ray tracing is more common. Just wish there was better cooling on the 5700s already.



I would not bother too much about RT at this point, these RTX cards will never be the way to play RT because they are still too weak, go watch the many YT Metro Ex/BF on high with DSLL off and RT turned on and watch in horror as what seems to be a few extra RT reflection in puddles drags the cards down to a grinding 45fps, just what you want from your £1000 PC setup. lol
Edited by: "XP200" 17th Jul
zeb.mattey17/07/2019 12:27

Ray tracing seems like marketing to me, check out the youtube comparisons. …Ray tracing seems like marketing to me, check out the youtube comparisons. It barely does anything, literally unnoticable.1. It'll be an option in all PC games, turn it off if you don't want it, as I can assure you, you won't. The performance hit isn't worth it.2. The 5700XT blows this card out of the water, https://i.redd.it/v9zwatlb9n931.png. At stock it's quicker, drivers will improve and it'll get faster no doubt, OC'd it demolishes the RTX 2070 super OC'd. And it's cheaper.Definately by the XT if you don't have any brand favorites. Ray tracing is garbage and as far as I can tell a clever marketing stint, it'll always be an option ingame and won't be forced on the player, and if is navi will handle it. Bear in mind microsoft have announced Project Scarlett will use Navi, I doubt they'd use software features which would cripple their own gpu.


I mean, it doesn't blow a standard 2070 away let alone a super. Taking a solitary benchmark doesn't really tell us anything.

The cards are in the same bracket, the 2070 non super is faster in quite a few games, the XT is faster in others. The super is faster in almost all titles.

Whichever someone buys is going to provide a great experience for 1440p high settings gaming. Nvidia have cutting edge tech, AMD have slightly better pricing.

This high midrange market has plenty of choice now.
UiRChris_17/07/2019 14:53

I mean, it doesn't blow a standard 2070 away let alone a super. Taking a …I mean, it doesn't blow a standard 2070 away let alone a super. Taking a solitary benchmark doesn't really tell us anything.The cards are in the same bracket, the 2070 non super is faster in quite a few games, the XT is faster in others. The super is faster in almost all titles.Whichever someone buys is going to provide a great experience for 1440p high settings gaming. Nvidia have cutting edge tech, AMD have slightly better pricing. This high midrange market has plenty of choice now.


It isn't a case of better tech but rather AMD chose to skip dedicated RT hardware. I think that is a good choice. If you look at RTX it certainly felt rushed at launch with no game offering any raytracing support and even to this day relatively subpar implementation on those that do, at a considerable performance hit at that. So why not wait until your hardware is capable enough? It would make sense to offer dedicated RT support on next series of cards or big Navi when the 7nm process is more mature so they can get better yields with bigger dies at reasonable prices.

At least with a good architecture in Navi AMD can now be competitive with Nvidia which is good for us consumers.
Edited by: "3anana" 17th Jul
UiRChris_17/07/2019 14:53

I mean, it doesn't blow a standard 2070 away let alone a super. Taking a …I mean, it doesn't blow a standard 2070 away let alone a super. Taking a solitary benchmark doesn't really tell us anything.The cards are in the same bracket, the 2070 non super is faster in quite a few games, the XT is faster in others. The super is faster in almost all titles.Whichever someone buys is going to provide a great experience for 1440p high settings gaming. Nvidia have cutting edge tech, AMD have slightly better pricing. This high midrange market has plenty of choice now.


The 5700Xt is 338 right now, this is 392, that's a different price bracket by definition. You're talking almost 20% more for the RTX 2070.

The 5700XT edges the 2070 out in every review ive seen, and we all know it'll get faster as drivers improve. With all three cards overclocked, this beats the 2070 super and 2070 by a half mile in the benchmark I posted, it'll likely be the same for others. OC'd the 5700XT is 15-20% faster than an OC'd 2070 standard, but it costs 20% less.

No brainer.
Edited by: "zeb.mattey" 17th Jul
3anana17/07/2019 15:32

It isn't a case of better tech but rather AMD chose to skip dedicated RT …It isn't a case of better tech but rather AMD chose to skip dedicated RT hardware. I think that is a good choice. If you look at RTX it certainly felt rushed at launch with no game offering any raytracing support and even to this day relatively subpar implementation on those that do, at a considerable performance hit at that. So why not wait until your hardware is capable enough? It would make sense to offer dedicated RT support on next series of cards or big Navi when the 7nm process is more mature so they can get better yields with bigger dies at reasonable prices.At least with a good architecture in Navi AMD can now be competitive with Nvidia which is good for us consumers.


Because developers need access to the hardware in order to implement it on their games.
UiRChris_17/07/2019 18:15

Because developers need access to the hardware in order to implement it on …Because developers need access to the hardware in order to implement it on their games.


Developers generally get the tools long before consumers. Doesn't detract from the fact that RTX was a poor launch at even poorer prices for early adopters to beta test.
Slightly faster than a RTX 2060 Super for slightly more money. A good RTX 2060 Super is £380 or so.

It's a good deal before you step up another tier to the RTX2070 Super for the extra £90 or so.

RX 5700XT mentioned above is a tiny bit faster than this, but with overclocking factored in this 2070 and it's triple fan cooler comes back at it contrary to what has been said. Why?

Well what hasn't been mentioned by the advocates of the 5700XT is the pretty naff blower coolers once again. They are good enough if you are running it stock, but if the aim is to overclock it at all then no.....just no. You don't want to do it.

Noisy and hot. It's not the fault of the GPU really, it's just the coolers are pish and really need aftermarket models to exploit OC potential. This 2070 I would happily smash the clocks up, the 5700XT on reference coolers I wouldn't touch.
vulcanproject18/07/2019 01:06

Slightly faster than a RTX 2060 Super for slightly more money. A good RTX …Slightly faster than a RTX 2060 Super for slightly more money. A good RTX 2060 Super is £380 or so.It's a good deal before you step up another tier to the RTX2070 Super for the extra £90 or so.RX 5700XT mentioned above is a tiny bit faster than this, but with overclocking factored in this 2070 and it's triple fan cooler comes back at it contrary to what has been said. Why?Well what hasn't been mentioned by the advocates of the 5700XT is the pretty naff blower coolers once again. They are good enough if you are running it stock, but if the aim is to overclock it at all then no.....just no. You don't want to do it. Noisy and hot. It's not the fault of the GPU really, it's just the coolers are pish and really need aftermarket models to exploit OC potential. This 2070 I would happily smash the clocks up, the 5700XT on reference coolers I wouldn't touch.


It's really not a noisy card, it's 6dB quieter than Vega as tested (that's about half the volume, as dB). It runs hot, good point, but not that hot

images.anandtech.com/gra…png

8C above a 2070 Super, not great, not awful.

The 5700 XT beats the 2060S by more than 'slightly', it's consistently 10% faster. I picked a random benchmark and this came up:
images.anandtech.com/gra….png
It's a faster card, and it OC's a lot better than the 2060S.

It's faster, and £40 cheaper. I just don't see why anyone would by the 2060S unless they're really worried about temps. If they are, spend that £40 on an accelero cooler, and you've got a card that's cooler than the 2060S, quieter, and can OC to 2070 RTX super levels. Nvidia will lower prices I'm sure, but for now it's an easy buy for the XT. The blower noise argument doesn't hold anymore when they've cut 6dB off the sound.

This is an excellent analysis, very in depth:

babeltechreviews.com/the…ds/

To paraphrase:

'We see the $399 RX 5700 XT easily beat the premium liquid-cooled Vega 64 and it also tops the $399 RTX 2060 SUPER while falling a bit short of the $449 75MHz overclocked Anniversary Edition. The $499 RTX 2070 SUPER is the fastest of these cards, but in several games the RX 5700 XT Anniversary Edition is either faster or else comes close in performance.'

'The RX 5700 XT is quiet for a blower. As it ramps up, it becomes noticeable but it is never intrusive.'
Edited by: "zeb.mattey" 18th Jul
zeb.mattey18/07/2019 01:53

It's really not a noisy card, it's 6dB quieter than Vega as tested (that's …It's really not a noisy card, it's 6dB quieter than Vega as tested (that's about half the volume, as dB). It runs hot, good point, but not that hothttps://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph14618/111347.png8C above a 2070 Super, not great, not awful.The 5700 XT beats the 2060S by more than 'slightly', it's consistently 10% faster. I picked a random benchmark and this came up:https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph14618/111322.pngIt's a faster card, and it OC's a lot better than the 2060S.It's faster, and £40 cheaper. I just don't see why anyone would by the 2060S unless they're really worried about temps. If they are, spend that £40 on an accelero cooler, and you've got a card that's cooler than the 2060S, quieter, and can OC to 2070 RTX super levels. Nvidia will lower prices I'm sure, but for now it's an easy buy for the XT. The blower noise argument doesn't hold anymore when they've cut 6dB off the sound.This is an excellent analysis, very in depth:https://babeltechreviews.com/the-rx-5700-xt-anniversary-edition-vs-the-liquid-cooled-rx-vega-64-and-vs-nvidias-super-cards/To paraphrase:'We see the $399 RX 5700 XT easily beat the premium liquid-cooled Vega 64 and it also tops the $399 RTX 2060 SUPER while falling a bit short of the $449 75MHz overclocked Anniversary Edition. The $499 RTX 2070 SUPER is the fastest of these cards, but in several games the RX 5700 XT Anniversary Edition is either faster or else comes close in performance.''The RX 5700 XT is quiet for a blower. As it ramps up, it becomes noticeable but it is never intrusive.'


Comparing it to Vega for noise levels is a bad idea all round- it's not as if Vega was a benchmark for silence! 5700XT is noticeably louder than a decent RTX2060 Super or 2070. From this first claim you make I'm kinda finding your post suspiciously selective.

Looking at Anandtech's test that you decided to use a graph from, the 5700XT clocks at 54 decibels loaded. That's getting a tad rowdy. Waaaaay better on that same test was a 2060 Super at just 41.8 dB, and even the 2070 Super is considerably superior at 45.5 dB. 6 dB quieter than a noisy Vega you say? 2060S is 12 dB quieterthan the 5700XT! This is without question very noticeable.

Temperatures are acceptable on the AMD card. That's all. 82 degrees as I said is ok at stock. Clearly there isn't a lot of room to push an overclock there though, not in terms of reasonable noise nor temperatures. Again, even the Founder's 2070 and 2060 Super still does waaaaaay better in that aspect; 2060 super running 12 degrees cooler. Lot more headroom. Remembering this is discounting the better AIB coolers for Nvidia cards.......all data above taken from the website you linked.

5700XT is 'trading blows' with a 2060 Super in digital foundry's comprehensive analysis of games and frame rates. They usually offer decent comparisons because they note not only 1 percent lows but also frame times. 5700XT is a strong contender at this level, however as with many AMD products does appear to still suffer with a few driver level issues that might get corrected. Hopefully. Eventually.

Here we see the 5700XT beat a 2060 Super by 5 percent at 1440p and a 2070 by a mere 2 percent. It's margin of error stuff against a stock 2070, this one has a factory OC. Most 2060 do too. On the Founder's could you claw back that performance and some more with a modest OC on the Nvidia cards with their temperature and cooling advantages? Yes.

So in short the usual reasons why people would buy a 2060 Super or this 2070. Solid drivers, it's performance is still in the ballpark without a significant disparity, it'll be a lot quieter, a fair amount cooler, you currently have a wider choice of models and AIB coolers, and as a result it'll OC without any aural displeasure, unlike the 5700XT. I consider RTX features as an extra bonus only, but they are there.

5700XT is competitive and a perfectly understandable and viable choice. Is it outright better? No. Do I want to mess about removing a cooler, and voiding a warranty? No.

Lower temps and less noise for me, even if I give away a tad more £ and a few basically unnoticeable percentage points of performance. Show me the AIB 5700 card tests (and prices) next month, with coolers that aren't limiting this GPU's appeal and possibly newer drivers. I'll revise my opinion as and when, by then I expect 2070 prices to have dropped further anyway too.......
Edited by: "vulcanproject" 18th Jul
vulcanproject18/07/2019 02:46

Comparing it to Vega for noise levels is a bad idea all round- it's not as …Comparing it to Vega for noise levels is a bad idea all round- it's not as if Vega was a benchmark for silence! 5700XT is noticeably louder than a decent RTX2060 Super or 2070. From this first claim you make I'm kinda finding your post suspiciously selective.Looking at Anandtech's test that you decided to use a graph from, the 5700XT clocks at 54 decibels loaded. That's getting a tad rowdy. Waaaaay better on that same test was a 2060 Super at just 41.8 dB, and even the 2070 Super is considerably superior at 45.5 dB. 6 dB quieter than a noisy Vega you say? 2060S is 12 dB quieter than the 5700XT! This is without question very noticeable.Temperatures are acceptable on the AMD card. That's all. 82 degrees as I said is ok at stock. Clearly there isn't a lot of room to push an overclock there though, not in terms of reasonable noise nor temperatures. Again, even the Founder's 2070 and 2060 Super still does waaaaaay better in that aspect; 2060 super running 12 degrees cooler. Lot more headroom. Remembering this is discounting the better AIB coolers for Nvidia cards.......all data above taken from the website you linked.5700XT is 'trading blows' with a 2060 Super in digital foundry's comprehensive analysis of games and frame rates. They usually offer decent comparisons because they note not only 1 percent lows but also frame times. 5700XT is a strong contender at this level, however as with many AMD products does appear to still suffer with a few driver level issues that might get corrected. Hopefully. Eventually.Here we see the 5700XT beat a 2060 Super by 5 percent at 1440p and a 2070 by a mere 2 percent. It's margin of error stuff against a stock 2070, this one has a factory OC. Most 2060 do too. On the Founder's could you claw back that performance and some more with a modest OC on the Nvidia cards with their temperature and cooling advantages? Yes.So in short the usual reasons why people would buy a 2060 Super or this 2070. Solid drivers, it's performance is still in the ballpark without a significant disparity, it'll be a lot quieter, a fair amount cooler, you currently have a wider choice of models and AIB coolers, and as a result it'll OC without any aural displeasure, unlike the 5700XT. I consider RTX features as an extra bonus only, but they are there.5700XT is competitive and a perfectly understandable and viable choice. Is it outright better? No. Do I want to mess about removing a cooler, and voiding a warranty? No.Lower temps and less noise for me, even if I give away a tad more £ and a few basically unnoticeable percentage points of performance. Show me the AIB 5700 card tests (and prices) next month, with coolers that aren't limiting this GPU's appeal and possibly newer drivers. I'll revise my opinion as and when, by then I expect 2070 prices to have dropped further anyway too.......


You speak my mind on who would get this card instead of the 5700xt!! There are few people like myself who just want to use the card out of the box with decent noise level and temp, that would last few years without needing to worry about the card getting damaged by temp etc and for us this 2070 seems a better fit than the 5700 XT. I am still on my GTX 970! Saving £40 and spending that on a cooler and spend more time installing is probably not for people like me who cant even bother to overclock the card. I just play with graphic setting to get the fps instead. I think the 5700 xt is more for enthusiasts who have all the knowledge and abilities to play with modding and oc'ing, but not just using the card out of the box for few years until games fps become unbearable and upgrade. Afterall we are talking about 300-500 pounds for 4 years, people nowadays spend more on their phones every year or two.
vulcanproject18/07/2019 02:46

Comparing it to Vega for noise levels is a bad idea all round- it's not as …Comparing it to Vega for noise levels is a bad idea all round- it's not as if Vega was a benchmark for silence! 5700XT is noticeably louder than a decent RTX2060 Super or 2070. From this first claim you make I'm kinda finding your post suspiciously selective.Looking at Anandtech's test that you decided to use a graph from, the 5700XT clocks at 54 decibels loaded. That's getting a tad rowdy. Waaaaay better on that same test was a 2060 Super at just 41.8 dB, and even the 2070 Super is considerably superior at 45.5 dB. 6 dB quieter than a noisy Vega you say? 2060S is 12 dB quieter than the 5700XT! This is without question very noticeable.Temperatures are acceptable on the AMD card. That's all. 82 degrees as I said is ok at stock. Clearly there isn't a lot of room to push an overclock there though, not in terms of reasonable noise nor temperatures. Again, even the Founder's 2070 and 2060 Super still does waaaaaay better in that aspect; 2060 super running 12 degrees cooler. Lot more headroom. Remembering this is discounting the better AIB coolers for Nvidia cards.......all data above taken from the website you linked.5700XT is 'trading blows' with a 2060 Super in digital foundry's comprehensive analysis of games and frame rates. They usually offer decent comparisons because they note not only 1 percent lows but also frame times. 5700XT is a strong contender at this level, however as with many AMD products does appear to still suffer with a few driver level issues that might get corrected. Hopefully. Eventually.Here we see the 5700XT beat a 2060 Super by 5 percent at 1440p and a 2070 by a mere 2 percent. It's margin of error stuff against a stock 2070, this one has a factory OC. Most 2060 do too. On the Founder's could you claw back that performance and some more with a modest OC on the Nvidia cards with their temperature and cooling advantages? Yes.So in short the usual reasons why people would buy a 2060 Super or this 2070. Solid drivers, it's performance is still in the ballpark without a significant disparity, it'll be a lot quieter, a fair amount cooler, you currently have a wider choice of models and AIB coolers, and as a result it'll OC without any aural displeasure, unlike the 5700XT. I consider RTX features as an extra bonus only, but they are there.5700XT is competitive and a perfectly understandable and viable choice. Is it outright better? No. Do I want to mess about removing a cooler, and voiding a warranty? No.Lower temps and less noise for me, even if I give away a tad more £ and a few basically unnoticeable percentage points of performance. Show me the AIB 5700 card tests (and prices) next month, with coolers that aren't limiting this GPU's appeal and possibly newer drivers. I'll revise my opinion as and when, by then I expect 2070 prices to have dropped further anyway too.......


I'm not being selective, 54dB is not that loud at all. Check a sound chart, I've had a gpu that is 50dB and one that never breaks 40dB, the human ear considers most sounds in the <55dB range quite faint. While considerably different, we talking about the difference between two low level sounds. The 2060S will be a lot quieter, but it'll be quieter than something which already barely noticeable. If you game with headphones there is no difference, period. You won't hear 54db the second you put headphones over your ears.

The 5700XT is £40 cheaper at the moment. And it's faster, as you concede and can see pretty clearly in every benchmark. Oc'd, it's faster than a 2070 Super.

The only reason to get a 2060S is if sound is an issue so much so that the volume of a PS4 puts you off gaming, to the point where that's worth a 10-15% hit in performance and 20% more money.

Rx 5700XT: £339 on HUKD
2060S: £380

I'll save £41 and get a considerably quicker thx.
zeb.mattey18/07/2019 11:14

I'm not being selective, 54dB is not that loud at all. Check a sound …I'm not being selective, 54dB is not that loud at all. Check a sound chart, I've had a gpu that is 50dB and one that never breaks 40dB, the human ear considers most sounds in the <55dB range quite faint. While considerably different, we talking about the difference between two low level sounds. The 2060S will be a lot quieter, but it'll be quieter than something which already barely noticeable. If you game with headphones there is no difference, period. You won't hear 54db the second you put headphones over your ears.The 5700XT is £40 cheaper at the moment. And it's faster, as you concede and can see pretty clearly in every benchmark. Oc'd, it's faster than a 2070 Super. The only reason to get a 2060S is if sound is an issue so much so that the volume of a PS4 puts you off gaming, to the point where that's worth a 10-15% hit in performance and 20% more money.Rx 5700XT: £339 on HUKD2060S: £380I'll save £41 and get a considerably quicker thx.


"The only reason to get a 2060S is if sound is an issue"


You mean apart from the bit where he mentioned the benchmarks and other issues that might make the 2060 Super a better purchase?
Edited by: "Dysonism" 18th Jul
zeb.mattey18/07/2019 11:14

I'm not being selective, 54dB is not that loud at all. Check a sound …I'm not being selective, 54dB is not that loud at all. Check a sound chart, I've had a gpu that is 50dB and one that never breaks 40dB, the human ear considers most sounds in the <55dB range quite faint. While considerably different, we talking about the difference between two low level sounds. The 2060S will be a lot quieter, but it'll be quieter than something which already barely noticeable. If you game with headphones there is no difference, period. You won't hear 54db the second you put headphones over your ears.The 5700XT is £40 cheaper at the moment. And it's faster, as you concede and can see pretty clearly in every benchmark. Oc'd, it's faster than a 2070 Super. The only reason to get a 2060S is if sound is an issue so much so that the volume of a PS4 puts you off gaming, to the point where that's worth a 10-15% hit in performance and 20% more money.Rx 5700XT: £339 on HUKD2060S: £380I'll save £41 and get a considerably quicker thx.


Not 10 percent. Not 15 percent hit in performance. As comprehensively demonstrated in my previous post. Suspiciously selective posting from you, once again. There is a word for that kind of person.

5 percent quicker than a 2060 Super at 1440p for currently not the greatest drivers, more noise, relatively high stock temps and an inability to overclock without pushing both those factors even higher. The OC tools for these cards are also mediocre anyway.

2 percent quicker than a 2070 with the same caveats. Margin of error. Certainly not faster than a 2070 with a factory OC, like this deal here.

Saving £41 isn't worth it for me considering how long people would keep these cards. The performance gap is academic, so other significant factors then come into the picture. This 2070 will OC heavily and it still won't be as hot or as loud as a blower 5700XT at stock. Win.

I would say most enthusiasts aren't prepared to compromise on noisy and hot blowers, I dislike hot running parts every bit as much as I dislike hearing the hardware straining. No headroom to push further. If you're cheaping out on video card models >£300 then you're probably misreading the wider market.
vulcanproject18/07/2019 17:00

Not 10 percent. Not 15 percent hit in performance. As comprehensively …Not 10 percent. Not 15 percent hit in performance. As comprehensively demonstrated in my previous post. Suspiciously selective posting from you, once again. There is a word for that kind of person.5 percent quicker than a 2060 Super at 1440p for currently not the greatest drivers, more noise, relatively high stock temps and an inability to overclock without pushing both those factors even higher. The OC tools for these cards are also mediocre anyway. 2 percent quicker than a 2070 with the same caveats. Margin of error. Certainly not faster than a 2070 with a factory OC, like this deal here.Saving £41 isn't worth it for me considering how long people would keep these cards. The performance gap is academic, so other significant factors then come into the picture. This 2070 will OC heavily and it still won't be as hot or as loud as a blower 5700XT at stock. Win.I would say most enthusiasts aren't prepared to compromise on noisy and hot blowers, I dislike hot running parts every bit as much as I dislike hearing the hardware straining. No headroom to push further. If you're cheaping out on video card models >£300 then you're probably misreading the wider market.


There is one rigorous test of these cards head to head, read it if you want, the 5700XT is faster than the 2060S by a significant margin. It trades blows with a 2070 super.

babeltechreviews.com/the…ds/

'We see the $399 RX 5700 XT easily beat the premium liquid-cooled Vega 64 and it also tops the $399 RTX 2060 SUPER while falling a bit short of the $449 75MHz overclocked Anniversary Edition. The $499 RTX 2070 SUPER is the fastest of these cards, but in several games the RX 5700 XT Anniversary Edition is either faster or else comes close in performance.'

I'm not being selective, I'm using an expert opinion (Not my own) which has been reached via the collection of considerable data, which is available for all to see. Your 5% figure is plucked from thin air, and as far as I can tell, appears in no rigorous benchmarking of the cards. Babeltech aren't wrong, neither are their benchmarks; the 5700Xt is on the coat tails of the RTX 2070 super.

There are real arguments against buying a 5700XT based on temperature and drivers. Basically, if you're a tinkerer and like to play with voltages, or add a cooler, the 5700XT is the better buy. If you want plug and play then grab a 2060S.
Edited by: "zeb.mattey" 22nd Jul
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