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Google Pixel 3 64GB £369 (with 12 month O2 SIMO - easy to cancel) @ Carphone Warehouse

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Thought this was worth a post as you can get hold of a Google Pixel 3 64GB (Black, White or Pink) for £369 potentially...

Just order and cancel the SIMO with O2 under the 14 day cooling off period, the £369 Pixel 3 will be yours! Handset is paid for so you only cancel SIM with the network provider which in this case will be O2...

As confirmed below by another user:
"You are getting a phone "sim free" from cpw for £369, and an expensive sim only deal sold to you by cpw, for o2. Your 12 months, are then totally handled by o2, and there is no more dealing with them cpw"

One other thing to note, is for each individual to look into their score beforehand and to be aware of the "potential" knock to their score - as advised by @Stronz91here

Confirmation from one user of how dispatch note in e-mail should look!!

Copy of chat confirmation from another user

Here is my screenshot showing that phone is SIM free and includes a SIMO SIM

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Please Note - If the 'Get Deal' button does not take you straight to deal - do a new search on the Pixel 3 64GB and filter by O2 and search by 'Upfront Cost (High to Low); - the deal will be there towards the bottom (Seems to work better in Chrome for me)

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Credit to @John1409 for originally mentioning this

UPDATE:

Just confirmed cancellation with an agent. Took me 5 mins. No questions asked. Have asked for an e-mail confirmation to be sent through.

I was asked for my SIM serial number and nothing else. I did not pop SIM in nor did i activate it.

I also confirmed with agent 2 times about cancellation process and the 14 day rule and the number that she was going to cancel and was advised it can take 24-48 hours.
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merb078623/12/2018 10:22

Still there mate


Okay so I was most vocal about this last night and would like to clarify that it was only due to a lack of evidence I was playing devils advocate. People who want to use this need to know the terms and conditions and why they can do this so they can defend it when calling O2 to cancel.

I think the point to take away from all this is that it's a loophole. I have read both cpw t&c's for contract phones and O2's as well and this is what I have gleaned:

So as @merb0786 said, and was correct in saying, if you buy a handset from cpw AND it's a sim only tariff, then cpw are bundling 2 separate items together to make one offer - this being a handset which they supply and a mobile sim contract ( while physically a sim is provided by them in store the sim contract is handled if full by O2)

So O2 offer a 14 day peace of mind service, so cancel any contract within 14 days and return any device to them.

BUT

Cpw bundled the phone with a sim only contract so essentially what cpw seem to be doing is selling you a sim which is entirely handled by O2 for the duration, of whatever the SIMO, contract is and a handset that they have provided. However the upfront fee is calculated is irrelevant, so that £369 could go to cpw or might be passed in whole to O2 to subsidize your monthly payment, it doesn't matter though all the matters is that it's a SIMO contract that cpw sell to you

When they sell the SIMO offer that is exactly what you get as far as O2 are concerned, so when you call them to cancel the contract between you and them, within 14 days, the only item they could ask for back is the simcard because on SIMO you don't get a device.

Cpw can't ask for the phone back as the sale of the SIMO contract has nothing to do with the device as it's SIMO.

So you cancel the sim only contract with O2 within 14 days and O2 are happy to discontinue it under their policy.

O2 t&C's say that you must return any device provided by them if you cancel within 14 days however THEY didn't provide it, THEY provided a 1/12/24/36 etc, doesn't matter, SIMO plan to you. So they can't ask for the device back.

Cpw state you must return any device where you cancel a subscription service. But they didn't provide you with a subscription that was provided by O2 in the form of a SIMO plan which is separate and stand alone to that of the device. Once cpw take payment, of which a minimum is not stated, the sale is complete.

Sorry for the long post but wanted to provide all the info I found to save others and apologies to @merb0786 for any hostility but I was looking for the fact not opinion so others know why this works not just simply that it should.



So in closing, it looks like, specifically on SIMO tariffs and certainly O2 ones, cpw are bundling 2 items together to create what is seemingly one mobile contract. In this case the SIMO contract is a 12 month agreement with 14s day cooling off allowed whereby you can cancel the SIMO contract with O2, cpw confirm on their website that you can't cancel a contract with them directly and to contact the network, so you call O2 and they cancel the 12 month contract section under the cooling off period thus you pay nothing to them.

In this specific SIMO deal with a device, Your agreement to cpw was to supply a device bundled with the above SIMO tariff - but that's now cancelled as above - so your left with a phone, but you made a payment to them, denomination is irrelevant, and they provided a device to you, so they were happy with that sale and let you walk out with the device, there is no agreement to pay any more and the SIMO is separate and subject to 12 months but can't be enforced if cancelled within the cooling off period hence why I believe...

You end up with a cheap phone.

Most contracts are provided with equipment and service agreement and if you cancel the service agreement you have to return the equipment.

on this it looks like the equipment is from cpw who are happy to let you walk out having handed £369 to them to either pass to o2 or maybe they get it as comission from the sale who knows but then the service agreement is only for a sim card so O2 have no idea you have a phone from cpw and don't care because they only agreed to provide you with a service plan anyway -

Cost to O2 = the price of a sim

And separately BECAUSE O2 are only providing a SIMO tariff

Cost to CPW = pixel 3 less £369

Hope that all makes sense, so it's definitely a loophole but t&cs back up that it should work so good luck all

Also copy you in @Mrswitch
Edited by: "Kenneth131" 23rd Dec 2018
merb078623/12/2018 01:11

If you cancel through O2 they don't know about the phone and it doesn't …If you cancel through O2 they don't know about the phone and it doesn't matter to them because CPW provides the phone. This trick has been done many times by many people without much issue.


So if I go for the 24 month £34pm and £29 upfront option and cancel. I get to keep the phone for £29? As per your reasoning?
Thanks OP. Received my phone this morning and just cancelled the SIM. No questions asked!
Just confirmed cancellation with an agent. Took me 5 mins. No questions asked. Have asked for an e-mail confirmation to be sent through.

I called the number:

03448090202

I was asked for my SIM serial number and nothing else. I did not pop SIM in nor did i activate it.

I also confirmed with agent 2 times about cancellation process and the 14 day rule and the number that she was going to cancel and was advised it can take 24-48 hours.

What i will also do possibly is call back again later and ask another agent if they can see the account has been cancelled down - just to make sure.

This may not work for everyone, but that was always the nature of this 'deal' or 'trick' whatever you want to call it.

Job done so far for me and hopefully for others too!
Edited by: "merb0786" 25th Dec 2018
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How much is the xl?
brohood23/12/2018 00:10

How much is the xl?


£499 for 64GB XL
£599 for 128GB XL

Both prices using the same method and SIMO deal

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Edited by: "merb0786" 23rd Dec 2018
Genius if this can be pulled off
lit9123/12/2018 00:15

Genius if this can be pulled off


I have purchased in white so let's see!
merb078623/12/2018 00:22

I have purchased in white so let's see!


Added the heat, in theory sounds like there is no reason for it not to work
lit9153 s ago

Added the heat, in theory sounds like there is no reason for it not to work


Exactly - you have the 14 days cooling off for a reason on the SIM and the handset is already paid for...
merb078616 m ago

£499 for 64GB XL£599 for 128GB XLBoth prices using the same method and S …£499 for 64GB XL£599 for 128GB XLBoth prices using the same method and SIMO deal[Image] [Image]


Good find
merb078623/12/2018 00:18

£499 for 64GB XL£599 for 128GB XLBoth prices using the same method and S …£499 for 64GB XL£599 for 128GB XLBoth prices using the same method and SIMO deal[Image] [Image]


Do you have a direct link for xl one I can't find it
From what I can see in the other thread for the Nokia 7 Plus, it seems like a lot of hassle to cancel the sim only.
pc_tech8623/12/2018 00:38

From what I can see in the other thread for the Nokia 7 Plus, it seems …From what I can see in the other thread for the Nokia 7 Plus, it seems like a lot of hassle to cancel the sim only.


I did it for the 7 Plus and i personally had no issues. Experiences can vary.

Worst case, O2 may ask for 1 month payment but they shouldn't - even then for £405 it is a bargain!
Madman12323/12/2018 00:37

Do you have a direct link for xl one I can't find it


Does this work for you? Link

Scroll down and the £499 price is there.
Edited by: "merb0786" 23rd Dec 2018
merb078623/12/2018 00:41

Does this work for you? LinkScroll down and the £499 price is there.



merb078623/12/2018 00:18

£499 for 64GB XL£599 for 128GB XLBoth prices using the same method and S …£499 for 64GB XL£599 for 128GB XLBoth prices using the same method and SIMO deal[Image] [Image]


Thanks but I'm trying to get the 499 one
Madman12323/12/2018 00:43

Thanks but I'm trying to get the 499 one


That is for the 499 one mate

Pixel 3 XL 64GB
How do we know this is SIMO?
merb078623/12/2018 00:44

That is for the 499 one matePixel 3 XL 64GB


This is what comes up

I can't upload pic too big
Edited by: "Madman123" 23rd Dec 2018
lhwjud23/12/2018 00:44

How do we know this is SIMO?


Previous deals for other handsets suggest it is via same method.

Plus CPW supply the handset and O2 provide the SIM. You get your 14 day cooling off period to cancel the SIM as standard. O2 have nothing to do with the handset.
lhwjud18 h, 41 m ago

How do we know this is SIMO?


I can't see Sim only anywhere, if this is a 12 month phone contract people will find they can't cancel the plan within 14 days unless they return the equipment, for that reason this is cold from me, the Virgin 1 month deal is still far better
Edited by: "BeefyMcWhatNow" 23rd Dec 2018
merb078623/12/2018 00:45

Previous deals for other handsets suggest it is via same method.Plus CPW …Previous deals for other handsets suggest it is via same method.Plus CPW supply the handset and O2 provide the SIM. You get your 14 day cooling off period to cancel the SIM as standard. O2 have nothing to do with the handset.


I think in this case you are incorrect

It's a phone contact unless you can show me specifically that the plan is a Sim only
merb078623/12/2018 00:41

Does this work for you? LinkScroll down and the £499 price is there.


When I click on that link the deal for 499 doesn't show
BeefyMcWhatNow23/12/2018 00:52

I think in this case you are incorrectIt's a phone contact unless you can …I think in this case you are incorrectIt's a phone contact unless you can show me specifically that the plan is a Sim only


Nope

Because the phone and SIM are bundled together by CPW. If you are cancelling through O2 they don't know or care about the phone as it's a CPW handset. Has been posted many times on this site with different model handsets
Can you buy this Instore?
The SIM free option comes up as £639. No option to add a SIM only contract to it. I dont think this will work and dont want to risk my credit rating with CPW. I feel this is a 12 month contact and legally you have to return the phone to them if you cancel. As opposed to the Note 9 deals where you picked a sim free phone and got a discount for adding a monthly sim contract.
merb078623/12/2018 00:59

NopeBecause the phone and SIM are bundled together by CPW. If you are …NopeBecause the phone and SIM are bundled together by CPW. If you are cancelling through O2 they don't know or care about the phone as it's a CPW handset. Has been posted many times on this site with different model handsets


CPW also do deals with little or no upfront costs.


Can you please show a link to an example post where this has worked before?
AbuM23/12/2018 01:08

CPW also do deals with little or no upfront costs. Can you please show a …CPW also do deals with little or no upfront costs. Can you please show a link to an example post where this has worked before?


hotukdeals.com/dea…533
indyjukebox23/12/2018 01:08

The SIM free option comes up as £639. No option to add a SIM only contract …The SIM free option comes up as £639. No option to add a SIM only contract to it. I dont think this will work and dont want to risk my credit rating with CPW. I feel this is a 12 month contact and legally you have to return the phone to them if you cancel. As opposed to the Note 9 deals where you picked a sim free phone and got a discount for adding a monthly sim contract.


If you cancel through O2 they don't know about the phone and it doesn't matter to them because CPW provides the phone. This trick has been done many times by many people without much issue.
merb078623/12/2018 01:11

If you cancel through O2 they don't know about the phone and it doesn't …If you cancel through O2 they don't know about the phone and it doesn't matter to them because CPW provides the phone. This trick has been done many times by many people without much issue.


So if I go for the 24 month £34pm and £29 upfront option and cancel. I get to keep the phone for £29? As per your reasoning?
merb07863 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nokia-7-plus-only-199-with-12-month-o2-or-vodafone-simo-cpw-3049533#thread-comments


Thanks.

Where does it say this is a SIMO deal?
merb07867 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nokia-7-plus-only-199-with-12-month-o2-or-vodafone-simo-cpw-3049533#thread-comments


That was a SIM free phone with a SIMO bundled with it and hence a CPW discount. I got my Note 9 through one of those sort of deals. This, as far as I can see, is a contract phone.
Why expired? This still works ...
The high upfront cost could mean it may be possible, otherwise why such a high upfront cost? The monthly rate is not cheap either
Might be worth the risk
SIMO or not ... You pay for the phone upfront. CPW do no process cancellations directly for O2. It will be done by O2. DSR on the contract SIMO or otherwise. Keep the phone.
This is fraud - the 1 month offers are obviously great but don't come running back to here if it all goes wrong.
Kenneth13123/12/2018 01:29

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You are buying the phone outright with the higher price ... At £9.99 per month you have not purchased the device outright.
tomwatts23/12/2018 01:30

This is fraud - the 1 month offers are obviously great but don't come …This is fraud - the 1 month offers are obviously great but don't come running back to here if it all goes wrong.


What can go wrong? You are not able to cancel? Then simply return it all to CPW inside 14 days. Small risk.
Edited by: "merb0786" 23rd Dec 2018
Kenneth13123rd Dec

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Completely agree. The presumption that the higher upfront cost equals paying for the phone is a risky one. It may work out or may end up in tears. And leave your credit file with a search mark as well.

I cancelled one of the completely legal sim free + SIMO bundles instead of paying for the single month. It was a mistake by CS as I asked for a 30 day notice and they went ahead and cancelled it under the 14 day terms. Following that I have been rejected by the same Network for any further applications. So there is that concern as well.
merb078623/12/2018 00:39

I did it for the 7 Plus and i personally had no issues. Experiences can …I did it for the 7 Plus and i personally had no issues. Experiences can vary.Worst case, O2 may ask for 1 month payment but they shouldn't - even then for £405 it is a bargain!


So it was as straight forward as just calling o2 to say that you want to cancel the sim contract
just asking if youre saying this is simo whats the difference between this and the ones with a lower upfront cost
so would this work on other devices too
If it works, when do u cancel the contract? As soon as u received the phone?
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