Graco Milestone All-In-One Car Seat Group 0+/1/2/3 - Aluminium - £99.99 @ Amazon
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Graco Milestone All-In-One Car Seat Group 0+/1/2/3 - Aluminium - £99.99 @ Amazon

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Found 3rd Apr 2017
Price has changed a lot over the past months. Was cheapest at £85 in December 2016, then to £114.99 until early February 2017 before going up to £149.99.

*** Can be rear-facing ***

* Group 0+/1/2/3 can be used for kids from birth up to 12 years of age
* Easily converts to and from the three riding modes
* The headrest can be adjusted easily with one hand to grow with your child
* The harness height automatically adjusts when altering the headrest height for ease-of-use
* Four position recline to ensure baby's and child's comfort even on long journeys
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Cold, non-isofix.
kolibri

Cold, non-isofix.



Iso-fix is for convenience when Group 0. From 1 year old Iso-fix becomes irrelevant as I would expect a child to be in a stroller seat rather than having to take out the car seat and attach into a travel system.
Edited by: "whw" 3rd Apr 2017
whw

Iso-fix is for convenience when Group 0. From 1 year old Iso-fix becomes … Iso-fix is for convenience when Group 0. From 1 year old Iso-fix becomes irrelevant as I would expect a child to be in a stroller seat rather than having to take out the car seat and attach into a travel system.


Let's drop the hyphen first. ISOFIX is what it's called.
ISOFIX is extremely useful. In my case it allows me to move my child's seat from one car to another in the space of a few seconds.
zizzles

Let's drop the hyphen first. ISOFIX is what it's called.ISOFIX is … Let's drop the hyphen first. ISOFIX is what it's called.ISOFIX is extremely useful. In my case it allows me to move my child's seat from one car to another in the space of a few seconds.



I'm unsure what we're discussing here. The product is aimed at the long haul (up to 12 yrs old apparently). If your intention is to always move this car seat between two cars then I've nothing to add to justify why this is a good price for those who do not have such a requirement.
whw

I'm unsure what we're discussing here. The product is aimed at the long … I'm unsure what we're discussing here. The product is aimed at the long haul (up to 12 yrs old apparently). If your intention is to always move this car seat between two cars then I've nothing to add to justify why this is a good price for those who do not have such a requirement.



I don't think you quite understand the reason for ISOFIX it's not a convenience principle. The clips hook straight into a solid structure which is stronger and immovable than the seatbelt, hence the new legislation coming into play. The commenters aren't stating for the benefit of moving cars but the safety standards of the seats. The Graco is outdated and rear facing is now recommended much longer than the 9 months possible with this seat.

ISOFIX is not just for the ease of clipping travel systems into the car.
Edited by: "B.B" 3rd Apr 2017
BarmyBulldog

I don't think you quite understand the reason for ISOFIX it's not a … I don't think you quite understand the reason for ISOFIX it's not a convenience principle. The clips hook straight into a solid structure which is stronger and immovable than the seatbelt, hence the new legislation coming into play. The commenters aren't stating for the benefit of moving cars but the safety standards of the seats. The Graco is outdated and rear facing is now recommended much longer than the 9 months possible with this seat.ISOFIX is not just for the ease of clipping travel systems into the car.




Granted, ISOFIX may be safer.

Let's put the Government's recommendations here for clarity: https://www.gov.uk/child-car-seats-the-rules/using-a-child-car-seat-or-booster-seat

Car seat suitability is now based on height and weight recommendations although here (updated 28th March 2017) they had this to say about the Graco Milestone (http://www.madeformums.com/reviews-and-shopping/the-12-best-car-seats-from-9-months/7750.html)

"A Group 1/2/3 combination car seat is suitable from 9kg to 36kg or when your child is 135cm tall, which is roughly 9 months to 12 years."

"Our reviewer even found it quick to install, sturdy and easy to clean. One thing to note, the Milestone enables your child to be rear-facing until 13kg (around 15 months)"
​isofix is not outright a safer method of fixing a car seat - there are plenty of belt fixed car seat that perform better in safety tests than some isofix seats. it does however reduce the chance of incorrectly fitting the seat and that is why r129 regs have been brought in.
Isofix is also only capable of holding a maximum weight of 33kg. this means that most isofix seats have a maximum user weight of 18kg - my 19 month old is already 14.5kg therefore an isofix seat would have been of no use to us as he'd not get much past the age of 2.5 years before hitting the weight limits and the next step would have then been a hbb!!
Most kids don't hit 13kg by 9 months as you're suggesting (more likely age 2ish) so if people wish to rear face past the baby carrier age (but not necessarily erf) then this could be the perfect seat for them.
I have an vauxhall astra 2000 - which i dont think have this isofix thing i guess... ?
This is a very LIMITED REAR FACING seat, it can only be used rear facing to 13kg same as an infant carrier. Though it is a big seat it MUST be turned forward facing around 9-12 months. Just to avoid any confusion that being a big seat it can be used rear facing longer it cant, if that is what you want the joie stages is a similar style and will give you the option of rear or forward facing to 18kg / approx 4 years.

jdRiggs

This is a very LIMITED REAR FACING seat, it can only be used rear facing … This is a very LIMITED REAR FACING seat, it can only be used rear facing to 13kg same as an infant carrier. Though it is a big seat it MUST be turned forward facing around 9-12 months. Just to avoid any confusion that being a big seat it can be used rear facing longer it cant, if that is what you want the joie stages is a similar style and will give you the option of rear or forward facing to 18kg / approx 4 years.



I really would appreciate some solid research you can point to on the web or is this based on personal experience?
jdRiggs

This is a very LIMITED REAR FACING seat, it can only be used rear facing … This is a very LIMITED REAR FACING seat, it can only be used rear facing to 13kg same as an infant carrier. Though it is a big seat it MUST be turned forward facing around 9-12 months. Just to avoid any confusion that being a big seat it can be used rear facing longer it cant, if that is what you want the joie stages is a similar style and will give you the option of rear or forward facing to 18kg / approx 4 years.



​​my daughter didn't hit 13kg until she was over 2.5 years (we've got a few friends whose LOs were still under 13kg at 4+ years) - a child would actually have to be off the charts to hit 13kg before they turn 1 and most children won't be 13kg until around the age of 2 so this seat isn't as limited as you're suggesting.
Most most children will outgrow an infant carrier by height way before weight so this seat isn't really comparable to an infant carrier in terms of rear facing capabilities, despite having the same weight limit.
Granted, if you want a truly ERF then this seat isn't for you but otherwise it's a very good compromise as opposed to putting a child ff once they outgrow infant carrier.
I've been informed the seat arrived and my cousin said it sadly would not be suitable for their 3 door car. Before even attempting to put the seat in the correct back-facing reclined position she found that the car's seat belt wasn't long enough to go around the back of the car seat and in the buckle. So you'd need a car that's got a sufficiently lengthy seat belt to even consider using this for Group 0+/1 (up to 15kg). In its forward-facing position it fit perfectly fine.

Just to highlight everyone's safety concerns: the lack of isofix wasn't an issue as fitting it with the car's seat belt was more that fine. Once the car's seat belt was pulled tight the car seat did not budge when it was pushed and shoved. And this from my cousin who hadn't opened the manual to work out how to fit it! I guess she didn't need the United Nations' help to install a car seat.
laurieleigh

​​my daughter didn't hit 13kg until she was over 2.5 years (we've got a fe … ​​my daughter didn't hit 13kg until she was over 2.5 years (we've got a few friends whose LOs were still under 13kg at 4+ years) - a child would actually have to be off the charts to hit 13kg before they turn 1 and most children won't be 13kg until around the age of 2 so this seat isn't as limited as you're suggesting. Most most children will outgrow an infant carrier by height way before weight so this seat isn't really comparable to an infant carrier in terms of rear facing capabilities, despite having the same weight limit.Granted, if you want a truly ERF then this seat isn't for you but otherwise it's a very good compromise as opposed to putting a child ff once they outgrow infant carrier.



​non sense. half of my friends current child are hitting 10kg at 6month. my own us now 6 weeks and is already at 5.5kg. a mix bag of formula and bread fed. so they all can easily be at 13kg by 12month if not earlier. this seat is one of the best all in one. but i have isofix for mine until he s grown out of it. i like the convenience of isofix. but i don't want to have a while load of isofix bases and seats when baby turns over 1 yr old. thus this is the solution to it.
wong_go_wild

​non sense. half of my friends current child are hitting 10kg at 6month. … ​non sense. half of my friends current child are hitting 10kg at 6month. my own us now 6 weeks and is already at 5.5kg. a mix bag of formula and bread fed. so they all can easily be at 13kg by 12month if not earlier. this seat is one of the best all in one. but i have isofix for mine until he s grown out of it. i like the convenience of isofix. but i don't want to have a while load of isofix bases and seats when baby turns over 1 yr old. thus this is the solution to it.



​not nonsense at all... check out WHO growth charts (the ones you'll find in your son's red book). The weights you're mentioning aren't out of the ordinary but if they continue along the same centiles they're currently on, they'll still be below 13kg by 9 or 12 months as suggested by the poster I was replying to.
You'll see that a child would have to be off the charts, in terms of centiles, to hit 13kg at the age of 1. The average (50th centile) child would still be below 13kg at their 2nd birthday.
As your son is likely to hit 13kg before he's 2 then this seat wouldn't be a good buy for you if you wish to keep him safely rear facing.

p.s. group 1 isofix seats generally have the isofix fitting bars as an integral part of the seat and don't need a separate base as you've mentioned.
Edited by: "laurieleigh" 13th Apr 2017
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