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Well its that time of year again for the Grand National.
I will start with a preview for the race and then the list of FREE/Bonus bets etc.

LATEST SPORTING LIFE PREVIEW

Julie Krone in the States, Hayley Turner on the Flat and Nina Carberry under National Hunt Rules have all shown that women are the equal of their male counterparts in the saddle when given the right ammunition and Katie Walsh is up there with the best. Hollywood once imagined Elizabeth Taylor riding the winner of the world's most famous race but Walsh can turn fantasy into reality by partnering SEABASS to victory in this year's renewal. Her father Ted has kept the 10-year-old wrapped in cotton wool since he finished third in 2012 and he arrives here fresh and still on a decent mark. He only gave best at the Elbow last year having travelled strongly throughout and is better off at the weights with Sunnyhillboy, an unlucky runner-up 12 months ago. It's no surprise that A P McCoy has chosen the Walsh's other runner Colbert Station ahead of the latter as he's a progressive and unexposed sort and he makes more appeal than probable favourite On His Own, whose jumping may be suspect. Big Fella Thanks is likely to give a bold sight and Always Waining has won the Topham Trophy three times over these fences but both may have stamina limitations. Teaforthree and Chicago Grey are both former winners of the 4m National Hunt Chase at Cheltenham, however, and will be staying on if avoiding traffic problems. The latter looks particularly well handicapped and was brought down last year. Seven-year-olds have a shocking record in the race but Saint Are won over the Mildmay fences here last season and the runner-up bolted up over hurdles here on Thursday, while these unique fences could inspire the potentially well-treated Harry The Viking to put his best foot forward. Ballabriggs may struggle to turn back the clock, however, and What A Friend and Weird Al may have too much weight. But Balthazar King could go close as he goes well fresh and proved his versatility and stamina by winning the cross-country chase at the Cheltenham Festival last year and following up over conventional obstacles at the same track in October. At big odds, Tatenen might give each-way backers a run for their money as well and the talented Bryan Cooper could get a tune out of Rare Bob so he looks the pick of the remainder.

Grand National 2013 Preview

The Grand National has changed out of all recognition. It’s not just the lowering of the fences and flattening of the drops round the inside, (which has probably made the course more dangerous not less, as they go much quicker and everyone wants to go up the inner). Nowadays its hugely competitive, a far cry from the ‘90s when 7 of the 9 winners carried between 10-5 and 10-8 and even extending that weight range out a couple of pounds each way, there were usually only 4 or 5 to choose from each year.

The last 4 winners have carried at least 11st and the compression of the weights to give the best horses more of a chance seems to be having the desired effect. Really good horses are now winning - 3 of the last 5 winners had contested Grade 1 races.

On the flip side it’s worth noting that last year was the first renewal for 8 years with a horse competing from out of the handicap proper. Last year there were 69 originally given a weight of 10st or more and this year there are only 59. It’s therefore likely there’ll be runners from out of the handicap again and the phenomenon where trainers were trying to get their runners up in the weights to get a run looks to have gone away with so many fewer horses around since the financial crash, (at the height of the boom you needed to be rated 139 to get a run.) It’s therefore worth keeping an eye out for a shrewd trainer who’s managed to get a classy type in on a low weight without fearing they won’t get a run.

The other factor that’s often under-appreciated is that you generally get one shot at being well enough handicapped to win the National. 6 of the last 10 winners were making their debut over the fences and of the 4 who’d run before, the only one who’d been competitive at the business end was Amberleigh House who was 14l 3rd the previous year to Monty’s Pass. He was 12 when he won (off only a 3lb higher mark), but most of the horses who ran really well the previous year were handicapped out of it on their return. Similarly, horses whose marks had been successfully protected until the weights came out, but who missed the race or came to grief early on, often found themselves too high in the weights the following year.

Last year’s 2nd Sunnyhillboy (28/1 - 10lb higher) and 3rd Seabass (16/1 - 5lb higher and didn’t look to get home last time) both look opposable from their new marks. Last year’s ante-post favourite Prince De Beauchene (14/1 – 12lb higher) is another one to be cautious about.

The other category of horse I usually oppose are those who are inexperienced. 2nd season chasers have a bad record which counts against Join Together (20/1), Teaforthree (20/1), Colbert Station (22/1) and the potentially well handicapped Wyck Hill (25/1).

Similarly On His Own (14/1) has had only 7 chase starts and only 11 races in his life. Willie Mullins is a genius at winning big races with horses who look to lack the normally required experience but this is a big ask and he’s not run since falling when going well last year, (entered at the weekend). However, he has got in off the same mark (148) and looks really well handicapped if his inexperience doesn’t get the better of him.

It’s silly to be dogmatic about those sorts of characteristics – I’m not saying these horses can’t win, just that they tend to be overbet and we’re looking for value. The one I like most of them is Teaforthree, who was a good 2nd in the Welsh National, jumps really well, goes on any ground and is progressive.

That does only leave Tidal Bay and Cappa Bleu at shorter than 25/1 and both look to have good chances. Connections clearly think Tidal Bay (20/1) does as they’ve scratched him from the Gold Cup and are prepared to miss the World Hurdle if needs be. Paul Nicholls has done an amazing job sweetening the old rogue up and his Lexus win reads very well in the context of this - he gets in off a 9lb lower mark (162) than normal. The only concern would be whether he takes to the fences (unseated at the 10th 2 years ago) and assuming he is out the back early on he’ll need luck in running. With Willie Mullins training the front two in the market it’ll be fascinating to see what Ruby Walsh rides.

Cappa Bleu (20/1) was 4th last season and is 2lb lower now. He won the Foxhunters 4 years ago but has had plenty of problems since. He’s a good jumper and didn’t have an easy passage last time around so if he lines up I could see myself backing him but he’s fragile for an ante-post proposition.

Unless there’s a stand out performer I generally want a biggish price at this stage and there are a number who look fair value at the moment.

The Package (28/1) is the most interesting of those who have mainly plied their trade as handicappers. He won the Badger Ales off 139 at Wincanton in November and was a fair 14½l 4th in a hot Hennessy off 147 next time. He unseated on the first circuit when running in this as a 7 year old but is only 5lb higher now on 146, 2 years on, and he still looks to be on the upgrade.

Former Gold Cup winner Imperial Commander (40/1) ran a good race on his comeback in the Argento and is a whopping 27lb below his highest mark on 158. You have to take on trust he’ll stay in one piece, but the bigger concern is that he runs in the Gold Cup as it’s a long time since a horse won the National after a Gold Cup run. If he did bypass Cheltenham he’d be an interesting contender and is worth considering nearer the time.

So many horses tackling the National for the first time have stamina doubts but one who shouldn’t have an issue staying is Quito De La Roque, (50/1). He’d been out of form since concluding his novice season with 2 Grade 1 wins in early 2011, but bounced back at Thurles last time over an inadequate 2½m and if he’s over all the niggles he has, he’s nicely treated off 157.

Former Grade 1 winner Pandorama is a huge price at 125/1. He’s in off 153, 13lb lower than his mark after winning the Lexus 2 seasons ago. He got jarred up in the 2011 Gold Cup and then returning in this season’s Lexus pulled muscles and had to miss the Irish Hennessy. There’s clearly a doubt about his getting to the race and he does like soft ground, but he’s exactly the sort of formerly high class horse that does win the National if everything falls right.

At this stage though the one I want to be with is Chicago Grey (14/1) who was brought down at the 5th last year. He won the 4 miler at the Festival 2 seasons ago and has already had 19 chase starts so has plenty of experience. His wily trainer Gordon Elliott immediately aimed him at the National after his Cheltenham triumph and it may be a blessing in disguise he got taken out of last year’s race by State Of Play’s fall as he’s 9lb lower now on 141. If Tidal Bay runs then he’ll carry 10-3 and he’s a very classy type to be getting so much weight from most of those at the front of the market.

Chicago Grey obviously stays really well which is crucial now they go so much quicker. He’s hit the deck twice in his 19 chase starts but so had the likes of Neptune Collonges, Don’t Push It and Mon Mome - Paul Carberry rode him last year and he looked to be enjoying the unique obstacles until brought down. With the smaller, softer obstacles and the drops leveled, going down the inside is a big advantage now and if Carberry takes the ride again (Noel Meade has 2 entries) then he’ll have the perfect man for the job. We waited half a century for a grey winner and it might be that we’ll now get consecutive ones taking the world’s most famous race.

Good Luck to you all.

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Supermod

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Edited by: "magicjay1986" 25th Apr 2014

Supermod

HUGE credit to Psychic for putting this thread together and also the betting offers. Nice work!

Banned

Well said and well done for the work,

i have backed Joncol at 139-1 on betfair to win and 23-1 a place.

Thanks for the effort OP!

Brilliant post thank you. Will spend some time working out how to get the most amount of free money bets and cashback!!

Any ideas as to what horse(s) are good to bet on - Paddy Power are saying that they are paying out on the horses that come in the first five - does this usually happen (don't really know much about betting on horses)? Any ideas appreciated.

Paddypower cashback has been slashed now. £9.50 on Qudico, £6.56 on TCB.

Keep an eye on tomorrows papers, always a bet X get Y free going for new customers!

Sophiasky

Any ideas as to what horse(s) are good to bet on - Paddy Power are saying … Any ideas as to what horse(s) are good to bet on - Paddy Power are saying that they are paying out on the horses that come in the first five - does this usually happen (don't really know much about betting on horses)? Any ideas appreciated.



Look up (e/w) each way betting on the internet. First five horses is better than most, Bet Victor is doing 6, but you would be best going for a long shot on E/W bets, a tip is that anything less the 8/1 is not really worth it.

Are Bet Victor doing any cashback or Match Bets for the Grand National - can't check as I am at work!

wish i could remmeber who I already have an account with............

madcal87

Are Bet Victor doing any cashback or Match Bets for the Grand National - … Are Bet Victor doing any cashback or Match Bets for the Grand National - can't check as I am at work!



Up to £25 matched first bet as a 'free bet' for new customers

SuperDan

Up to £25 matched first bet as a 'free bet' for new customers



ACTUALLY - STEER CLEAR OF THIS!

They have a nasty in their terms and conditions:

You will only be eligible to withdraw winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash once you have staked at least 4 times the value of your initial bonus amount and these bets have fully settled. [For example: If you receive £25 in Promo Cash you must place further settled bet(s) with a cumulative stake value of at least £100 before you will be permitted to make a withdrawal of any winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash. If you receive £10 in Promo Cash you must place further settled bet(s) with a cumulative stake of £40 before you will be permitted to make a withdrawal of any winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash.]

SuperDan

ACTUALLY - STEER CLEAR OF THIS!They have a nasty in their terms and … ACTUALLY - STEER CLEAR OF THIS!They have a nasty in their terms and conditions:You will only be eligible to withdraw winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash once you have staked at least 4 times the value of your initial bonus amount and these bets have fully settled. [For example: If you receive £25 in Promo Cash you must place further settled bet(s) with a cumulative stake value of at least £100 before you will be permitted to make a withdrawal of any winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash. If you receive £10 in Promo Cash you must place further settled bet(s) with a cumulative stake of £40 before you will be permitted to make a withdrawal of any winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash.]



Thanks for the Heads Up

Supermod

I am really keen on Chicago Grey. Hmm.

If you are in and around the Newcastle upon Tyne area you can get the Chronicle or Journal newspaper for about 50p and it will include a £2 free bet for Chisholms bookmaker

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lol - quite a few of those arent running now! :@P

the sun has a free 1£ bet but cant see the voucher

Free £5 bet in the freebies section

I'm pretty confident on Rare Bob here (avoiding accidents)

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thankyou got my free bet

How do you get the free bet with skybet? I registered but there's nothing to say I have any free bets???

A lot of bookies suspend there free bet offers during the national as people only sign up to place a bet during the national and never bet again, so just double check on the site before you signup.
Paddy usually offer a £50 free bet for new customers but today it's bet £20 get £10.

Didn't get any cashback from that last PaddyPower offer (but I did win the bet...)

SuperDan

ACTUALLY - STEER CLEAR OF THIS!They have a nasty in their terms and … ACTUALLY - STEER CLEAR OF THIS!They have a nasty in their terms and conditions:You will only be eligible to withdraw winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash once you have staked at least 4 times the value of your initial bonus amount and these bets have fully settled. [For example: If you receive £25 in Promo Cash you must place further settled bet(s) with a cumulative stake value of at least £100 before you will be permitted to make a withdrawal of any winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash. If you receive £10 in Promo Cash you must place further settled bet(s) with a cumulative stake of £40 before you will be permitted to make a withdrawal of any winnings accrued through the use of Promo Cash.]



That's the winnings from promo cash! So the £25 you bet on the national from your own money, if it wins, you can withdraw your money and winnings, you then have £25 free bets to place, if that wins at 4/1 or more, you then have £100 free cash to bet with, you can place this on any dead cert, then withdraw, £100 up! Or you can rebet it, any returns are then yours to withdraw and keep, no matter what you will not lose anything more than the original £25 you were willing to bet in the first place! I've taken this offer and withdrawn £146, still have £25 of free bets on the national today....can't wait

cherryboo39

How do you get the free bet with skybet? I registered but there's nothing … How do you get the free bet with skybet? I registered but there's nothing to say I have any free bets???

same for me

I signed up to Betfair using the offer 'Get a free £25 bet plus £10 cashback from Quidco when you deposit/wager at least £10', I deposited and bet £10 on the grand national, any idea how/if I'll get the £25 worth of bets? Anybody else registered?

hot tip "Dusty carpet" Has Never been beaten!

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search4bargin

hot tip "Dusty carpet" Has Never been beaten!



LOL Why Don't You HUKD Guys Post Your Tips And Selections For The Big Race Today?

I Have Gone E/W on The Rainbow Hunter @ 100/1

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Get All The Latest Prices (in real time) For The Big Race Here.
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Edited by: "Psychic" 6th Apr 2013

I have gone EW on 'on his own' @ 16/1 betfair (yesterday)

Yeah i get this, but on other sites they dont usually have this condition. I would bet a£25 on something, and hope to rescue with the free bet on an evens football result. Im just saying this isnt doable because they will be stingy with winnings off your free bet.

loll1es

That's the winnings from promo cash! So the £25 you bet on the national … That's the winnings from promo cash! So the £25 you bet on the national from your own money, if it wins, you can withdraw your money and winnings, you then have £25 free bets to place, if that wins at 4/1 or more, you then have £100 free cash to bet with, you can place this on any dead cert, then withdraw, £100 up! Or you can rebet it, any returns are then yours to withdraw and keep, no matter what you will not lose anything more than the original £25 you were willing to bet in the first place! I've taken this offer and withdrawn £146, still have £25 of free bets on the national today....can't wait

lordbigsack

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Looks like this offer was withdrawn yesterday at 5PM

Source: twitter.com/Sky…745

lordbigsack

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Thanks, but disappointing: "Please be aware we do not have a Welcome Offer running on Sky Bet today. However, all customers can qualify for our dedicated loyalty scheme - choose from free bets or money off your Sky TV bill - and we're also paying 5 places on the race itself."

lordbigsack

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Looks like this offer was removed yesterday as of 5pm.

Source: twitter.com/Sky…745

OP: please remove...

2 horses dead already......whats the problem with human nature?

isnQ22

2 horses dead already......whats the problem with human nature?



Over 4 and a half years a member on HUKD without posting a deal..... what's the problem with human nature?

isnQ22

2 horses dead already......whats the problem with human nature?



how many dead from being neglected? I'm willing to bet its a lot higher than the well looked after race horses
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