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Gtechs mountain bike at the price of the lower spec ebikes from Gtech.
For a budget electric mountain bike the reviews are ok!

Coming in at just 19kg, this electrical assist bike is built for off road adventures. With 27.5” tyres, a 36V high torque motor and RockShox suspension, this electrical bike is packed with features to add some fun to your life. This eBike uses a battery to power the motor, so you can continue to pedal normally while moving more quickly and easily over a variety of terrains. With 2 modes to choose from, you’re in complete control.
Key Features:
Lightweight and strong aluminium frame
Plush RockShox forks with 120mm of travel
Sizes: One size 17.5” frame (22” effective with suspension seatpost)
Powerful Hydraulic disc brakes
Colour: Silver
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Bluedrh18/08/2019 08:29

Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the …Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the eco friendly form or transport add a battery and that is blown out of the window. If you have a medical condition I fully see why you would need an e bike. If it's hills that put you off cycling start small and build up your stamina. ( I'll sit back and wait for the abuse)


My daily commute is 6 miles, but involves a huge hill. I use to cycle one day a week, the rest of the time drive the car. The day I rode in, I would arrive at work hot and sweaty, so would need to bring in work clothes, towel, and stuff for the shower.

Three years ago my work starting charging for parking, so I decided to get an ebike. Since then I cycle every day (in all weathers) in my work clothes, arrive at work cool and relaxed (breeze up that big hill without breaking a sweat).

I save a couple of quid parking per day, another couple of quid petrol, my car sits on the drive all week, so hardly any miles affecting depreciation or wear and tear on that. The ebike costs about 12p to fully charge (a full charge lasts me 2 days)

I'm lucky in that most of the route I take is cycle path, so breeze past the gridlocked cars, and most of the time arrive at work faster than I would if I drove.

I also find it a great stress buster, a chance to unwind on the way home, which I don't do when driving.

I often take the ebike out at the weekend for 45-50 mile (or upto 80 mile with additional battery) rides, I not sure I would do that on my conventional road bike as often, so although I being assisted, I'm still getting exercise that I probably wouldn't staying at home. Plus we've got some beautiful scenery in this country, you see so much more on a bike, especially on an ebike, as you can enjoy it more without head down flat out on a road bike.

I will warn you though, if you do get an ebike, you WILL become addicted to wanting to get out and ride it at every opportunity !
Bluedrh18/08/2019 08:29

Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the …Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the eco friendly form or transport add a battery and that is blown out of the window. If you have a medical condition I fully see why you would need an e bike. If it's hills that put you off cycling start small and build up your stamina. ( I'll sit back and wait for the abuse)


For what it's worth,me and the Mrs just purchased an e bike each and we didn't get them because we wanted to be eco friendly or because we have a medical condition,we simply purchased them because they are fun to ride.

We first tried e bikes out whilst abroad on holiday and from start to finish they put a grin on our faces.We even hired out one of those family bikes that seats about half a dozen people and that had a motor and was a right laugh.

People say you can buy a light weight bike which is far cheaper but we like the feel of the motor kicking in and the fact we can ride for miles without even breaking a sweat,and trust me when I say that no bike with an average user will get up a steep hill like an ebike can.

All that said you can make e biking as hard or as easy as you like.Put it in turbo mode and you can ride for 20 miles and feel as fresh as you left,or you can turn the motor off completely and have the hardest ride you will ever have

As for them running out of power and then struggling,you must be doing something seriously wrong if you manage to get miles away from home with a flat e bike battery as they have good range and they will constantly tell you how much range you have left in each mode,so it is no different to managing the fuel level in you car.I know ours have a range of around 80 miles on eco mode,so more than enough for an average ride out i would say.

I have just made a video about the unboxing of each bike and also will be making a few follow up video about ownership of them,including showing how easy they are going up steep hills with the motor on and then doing the same again with the motor off.


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Edited by: "Biggunspaul" 18th Aug
ashmac18/08/2019 10:36

A bike that cost the same as a second hand car , just buy a car it’s q …A bike that cost the same as a second hand car , just buy a car it’s quicker and you don’t get wet


10 hours in, am surprised that old chestnut took so long to arrive on a cycling thread
golfie18/08/2019 10:24

I'll give my two pence on the ebike debate. Like most other people, I've a …I'll give my two pence on the ebike debate. Like most other people, I've a bike in my garage not being used. The reason? Last time I used it I remember the steep hills and the pain getting to the top. Even at my fittest the hills are a killer. Anyone who thinks differ different I applaud your mental strength .


What you see as mental strength in others I tend to see as obstenance by some to accept progress and a foolish notion that cycling has to be suffering. There are those who make judgements having never ridden an ebike and who refuse to accept it's not either/or but you can have both and each has their place, and as cyclists like to buy many bikes it's a no brainer for them not to add at least one to the fold.

If it gets people out on a bike when they wouldn't otherwise bother is what matters, oh and that feeling it gives you of being a kid again is priceless.
Edited by: "RoobyRoo" 18th Aug
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19kg? Will that be really hard going when the battery isn’t engaged?Like the thought of this but not sure of the practicalities
Edited by: "warren321" 18th Aug
£10 off with code AUG10
warren32118/08/2019 00:12

19kg? Will that be really hard going when the battery isn’t engaged?Like t …19kg? Will that be really hard going when the battery isn’t engaged?Like the thought of this but not sure of the practicalities


I’ve got the Carrera Vulcan ebike- it’s 24kg!!! With the battery off it’s like you’ve got your brakes on! I always have the battery on but on the lowest power (except for when I’m cycling uphill! 😝)
Looks like a Diamond Back and not the GTech in the image.
warren32118/08/2019 00:12

19kg? Will that be really hard going when the battery isn’t engaged?Like t …19kg? Will that be really hard going when the battery isn’t engaged?Like the thought of this but not sure of the practicalities


Yep, I think being aware of your battery capacity/range would be essential.
johnnystorm18/08/2019 00:15

Looks like a Diamond Back and not the GTech in the image.


I know - not sure what happened there. The photo I posted was of the gtech bike and it got changed before it went live. I’ve tried editing and adding it again
johnnystorm18/08/2019 00:17

Yep, I think being aware of your battery capacity/range would be essential.


Definitely! I’ve been out on some trails on mine using it fairly heavily, and after an hour of lots of ups (and downs.. weeee!) I’ve still got between 25 and 50% battery
So it's basically a 500 pound mountain bike with a battery so how much would it cost to upgrade a 500 pound mountain bike to this level of battery power?
tranceazure18/08/2019 02:17

So it's basically a 500 pound mountain bike with a battery so how much …So it's basically a 500 pound mountain bike with a battery so how much would it cost to upgrade a 500 pound mountain bike to this level of battery power?


I wouldn't rate the bike at £500 , maybe £400 tops .
carrera subway mtb , about 300

36v 9ah panasonic cell battery about 120 on ebay
charger about 10

geared hub 36v motor and wheel and contoller about 150
warren32118/08/2019 00:12

19kg? Will that be really hard going when the battery isn’t engaged?Like t …19kg? Will that be really hard going when the battery isn’t engaged?Like the thought of this but not sure of the practicalities


Got a Scott e spark that is about 22kg. Without assist its like you're riding in thick mud. Just keep an eye on the modes and the range left. Eco will do 60-70 miles trail 35-40 miles and boost 20-25 miles. More than enough for me.
Hot deal, thanks.
rbabes18/08/2019 00:14

I’ve got the Carrera Vulcan ebike- it’s 24kg!!! With the battery off it’s l …I’ve got the Carrera Vulcan ebike- it’s 24kg!!! With the battery off it’s like you’ve got your brakes on! I always have the battery on but on the lowest power (except for when I’m cycling uphill! 😝)


Yes, have the Vulcan too ,, so so heavy !!!
Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the eco friendly form or transport add a battery and that is blown out of the window. If you have a medical condition I fully see why you would need an e bike. If it's hills that put you off cycling start small and build up your stamina. ( I'll sit back and wait for the abuse)
Edited by: "Bluedrh" 18th Aug
Bluedrh18/08/2019 08:29

Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the …Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the eco friendly form or transport add a battery and that is blown out of the window. If you have a medical condition I fully see why you would need an e bike. If it's hills that put you off cycling start small and build up your stamina. ( I'll sit back and wait for the abuse)


I don't have an ebike, or any bike currently. I enjoyed messing about on a mountain bike many years ago, but now I'm getting on a bit, unfit, suffer from many old injuries, and don't have the will to beast myself into the ground. I'd like an ebike to allow me back into the game. Letting me enjoy the hills with my mates who still bike, without slowing them down too much, and without spending all day breathing through my hoop, and not really enjoying myself.

It's a pipe dream at the minute though. There's other things needed more than an ebike. One day though...

evanscycles.com/cof…ong
bangytupper18/08/2019 08:50

I don't have an ebike, or any bike currently. I enjoyed messing about on a …I don't have an ebike, or any bike currently. I enjoyed messing about on a mountain bike many years ago, but now I'm getting on a bit, unfit, suffer from many old injuries, and don't have the will to beast myself into the ground. I'd like an ebike to allow me back into the game. Letting me enjoy the hills with my mates who still bike, without slowing them down too much, and without spending all day breathing through my hoop, and not really enjoying myself. It's a pipe dream at the minute though. There's other things needed more than an ebike. One day though... https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeestop/advice/why-everything-you-ever-thought-about-electric-bikes-is-probably-wrong


I am now sixty and have not ridden a bike for years, I must be honest I am pretty unfit especially now my work is all day in an office, I have recently purchased a used mountain bike and most nights I do a circuit of several roads on my estate, it is hard going but getting easier, I thought about an ebike but there is really no point for me as it is solely for exercise. Pick up a used one and give it a go, you aint got to ride far and it is a start at getting fitter.
yozzman123418/08/2019 06:31

I wouldn't rate the bike at £500 , maybe £400 tops .


Where can you get a bike like this for £400 with a 120mm Rockshox air fork, Deore/SLX drivetrain, decent suspension seat post and fairly good quality wheels and parts. Often hardtails with air forks start at £500 plus and have weaker components than this elsewhere.

Can't see how this isn't decent value considering many entry level mountain e-bikes have Suntour XCT forks and other rubbish components.

Looking on the Tredz site they have this as their cheapest Haibike.


tredz.co.uk/.Ha…htm


It's over £500 more and has a basic Suntour XCM fork and they aren't even pretending its suitable for off-road use they have fitted it with road tyres and mudguards yet the Gtech is fully capable of off-road use. The Gtech will be much more reliable too but clearly won't offer as high a torque as the Haibike for going up steep sections off road.

The way I see it is the Gtech is a very good hardtail equipped with a fairly decent hub motor but low capacity battery. Seems a good package for the money and end of life when the battery or hub motor fails maybe after 3 years of constant use you can replace the rear wheel and return it to a standard mountain bike removing all the electrical parts and it will still be a very decent bike which is good for the environment and minimising waste. Many mid-mount e-bikes are pretty much junk when the motors fail as the frame is a dedicated design for that motor and mid-mount motors are much more likely to fail especially if the type that uses a lot of plastic internal parts. I don't think the Yamaha on the haibike does that or the Shimano models though but some do. I really think the Gtech is an overall good package for its simplicity, reliability, value and ease of maintenance with the one negative being the lack of torque for going up steep inclines off-road easily, you'll have to put the work in yourself with only low assistance from the hub motor.
lumsdot18/08/2019 07:24

carrera subway mtb , about 30036v 9ah panasonic cell battery about 120 on …carrera subway mtb , about 30036v 9ah panasonic cell battery about 120 on ebaycharger about 10geared hub 36v motor and wheel and contoller about 150

9ah isn't up to much tbh you need 12ah really
bangytupper18/08/2019 08:50

I don't have an ebike, or any bike currently. I enjoyed messing about on a …I don't have an ebike, or any bike currently. I enjoyed messing about on a mountain bike many years ago, but now I'm getting on a bit, unfit, suffer from many old injuries, and don't have the will to beast myself into the ground. I'd like an ebike to allow me back into the game. Letting me enjoy the hills with my mates who still bike, without slowing them down too much, and without spending all day breathing through my hoop, and not really enjoying myself. It's a pipe dream at the minute though. There's other things needed more than an ebike. One day though... https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeestop/advice/why-everything-you-ever-thought-about-electric-bikes-is-probably-wrong


Interesting article. I notice most of the comments are from people either trying to get back into cycling (after years of inactivity) or people with health problems/old age. For the money you would spend on a bike like this you could get yourself an excellent light very well equipped bike, this is a lot of money for a not very good bike. I'm not having a pop at anyone or taking the moral high ground each to there own. Start small and you will get there quite quickly the fitness will come.
Bluedrh18/08/2019 08:29

Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the …Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the eco friendly form or transport add a battery and that is blown out of the window. If you have a medical condition I fully see why you would need an e bike. If it's hills that put you off cycling start small and build up your stamina. ( I'll sit back and wait for the abuse)


For what it's worth,me and the Mrs just purchased an e bike each and we didn't get them because we wanted to be eco friendly or because we have a medical condition,we simply purchased them because they are fun to ride.

We first tried e bikes out whilst abroad on holiday and from start to finish they put a grin on our faces.We even hired out one of those family bikes that seats about half a dozen people and that had a motor and was a right laugh.

People say you can buy a light weight bike which is far cheaper but we like the feel of the motor kicking in and the fact we can ride for miles without even breaking a sweat,and trust me when I say that no bike with an average user will get up a steep hill like an ebike can.

All that said you can make e biking as hard or as easy as you like.Put it in turbo mode and you can ride for 20 miles and feel as fresh as you left,or you can turn the motor off completely and have the hardest ride you will ever have

As for them running out of power and then struggling,you must be doing something seriously wrong if you manage to get miles away from home with a flat e bike battery as they have good range and they will constantly tell you how much range you have left in each mode,so it is no different to managing the fuel level in you car.I know ours have a range of around 80 miles on eco mode,so more than enough for an average ride out i would say.

I have just made a video about the unboxing of each bike and also will be making a few follow up video about ownership of them,including showing how easy they are going up steep hills with the motor on and then doing the same again with the motor off.


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Edited by: "Biggunspaul" 18th Aug
Bluedrh18/08/2019 09:11

Interesting article. I notice most of the comments are from people either …Interesting article. I notice most of the comments are from people either trying to get back into cycling (after years of inactivity) or people with health problems/old age. For the money you would spend on a bike like this you could get yourself an excellent light very well equipped bike, this is a lot of money for a not very good bike. I'm not having a pop at anyone or taking the moral high ground each to there own. Start small and you will get there quite quickly the fitness will come.


What do you feel is not very good about this bike and what would be your alternative choice?

All the components on the bike look good quality and hub motors have a reputation for being very reliable albeit lacking the torque of mid-mount motors. The lack of battery capacity and limited range is an issue but not really a quality issue. The bike is relatively light for an e-bike and can be ridden without power assistance if necessary which is not true of many much heavier e-bikes. If you only use assistance for the hills the range can be massively extended. I think people need to focus on the components fitted to the bike rather than make assumptions based on the brand. This is a very capable mountain bike fitted with a fairly lightweight motor hub and battery pack. It's described as a high torque hub motor but it will likely still be low torque compared to a entry level mid-mount motor in comparison but certainly plenty of torque for going up hills on roads just not steep sections off-road.
bonzobanana18/08/2019 10:04

What do you feel is not very good about this bike and what would be your …What do you feel is not very good about this bike and what would be your alternative choice?All the components on the bike look good quality and hub motors have a reputation for being very reliable albeit lacking the torque of mid-mount motors. The lack of battery capacity and limited range is an issue but not really a quality issue. The bike is relatively light for an e-bike and can be ridden without power assistance if necessary which is not true of many much heavier e-bikes. If you only use assistance for the hills the range can be massively extended. I think people need to focus on the components fitted to the bike rather than make assumptions based on the brand. This is a very capable mountain bike fitted with a fairly lightweight motor hub and battery pack. It's described as a high torque hub motor but it will likely still be low torque compared to a entry level mid-mount motor in comparison but certainly plenty of torque for going up hills on roads just not steep sections off-road.


I'd like to know how much torque this motor has, as the torque figures can vary quite a lot in hub motors ime. Cant seem to find the torque specs for this motor anywhere.
They call it a 'high torque motor', which it may well be, but it could also just be marketing bs.
I do like the decent spec of the components though and 19kg for an EMTB is not bad at all.
Bluedrh18/08/2019 08:29

Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the …Is it me I can't see the point in e bikes. A bike is supposed to be the eco friendly form or transport add a battery and that is blown out of the window. If you have a medical condition I fully see why you would need an e bike. If it's hills that put you off cycling start small and build up your stamina. ( I'll sit back and wait for the abuse)


My daily commute is 6 miles, but involves a huge hill. I use to cycle one day a week, the rest of the time drive the car. The day I rode in, I would arrive at work hot and sweaty, so would need to bring in work clothes, towel, and stuff for the shower.

Three years ago my work starting charging for parking, so I decided to get an ebike. Since then I cycle every day (in all weathers) in my work clothes, arrive at work cool and relaxed (breeze up that big hill without breaking a sweat).

I save a couple of quid parking per day, another couple of quid petrol, my car sits on the drive all week, so hardly any miles affecting depreciation or wear and tear on that. The ebike costs about 12p to fully charge (a full charge lasts me 2 days)

I'm lucky in that most of the route I take is cycle path, so breeze past the gridlocked cars, and most of the time arrive at work faster than I would if I drove.

I also find it a great stress buster, a chance to unwind on the way home, which I don't do when driving.

I often take the ebike out at the weekend for 45-50 mile (or upto 80 mile with additional battery) rides, I not sure I would do that on my conventional road bike as often, so although I being assisted, I'm still getting exercise that I probably wouldn't staying at home. Plus we've got some beautiful scenery in this country, you see so much more on a bike, especially on an ebike, as you can enjoy it more without head down flat out on a road bike.

I will warn you though, if you do get an ebike, you WILL become addicted to wanting to get out and ride it at every opportunity !
I'll give my two pence on the ebike debate. Like most other people, I've a bike in my garage not being used. The reason? Last time I used it I remember the steep hills and the pain getting to the top. Even at my fittest the hills are a killer. Anyone who thinks differ different I applaud your mental strength .
You could get another 7% off with the cycle to work scheme.
A bike that cost the same as a second hand car , just buy a car it’s quicker and you don’t get wet
I prefer Hub motors to Mid Drive, they're just better for the road..... but just get a 2000watt wheel kit, you will be doing 40mph, it's great.
ashmac18/08/2019 10:36

A bike that cost the same as a second hand car , just buy a car it’s q …A bike that cost the same as a second hand car , just buy a car it’s quicker and you don’t get wet


10 hours in, am surprised that old chestnut took so long to arrive on a cycling thread
ashmac18/08/2019 10:36

A bike that cost the same as a second hand car , just buy a car it’s q …A bike that cost the same as a second hand car , just buy a car it’s quicker and you don’t get wet


Since when did it have to be one or the other?

I have a performance car for the roads and a performance bike for off the roads 😁
slannmage18/08/2019 10:38

I prefer Hub motors to Mid Drive, they're just better for the road..... …I prefer Hub motors to Mid Drive, they're just better for the road..... but just get a 2000watt wheel kit, you will be doing 40mph, it's great.


My mid drive motor does 40mph and its 1750 watts and 150nm torque
Edited by: "Cro_Baron" 18th Aug
Tongsheng 250w motor 36v 14.5ah battery £400 job done! Flash it and you have a bosch killer, nothing more to discuss. Love my two
neilgriffiths197218/08/2019 09:02

9ah isn't up to much tbh you need 12ah really


9ah is a bit low for a 24v system, but 36v times 9ah is 324wh which gives me about 15 miles with no peddling on my 450w ebike
but yes 12ah would be nicer
I cycle daily and have loads of hills on my commute - South Wales.

It was not a problem a year ago but I am getting knackered and fed up with it now so have been. considering an e-bike for several months.

If you live on the flat then no need but those who do need to be aware that plenty of us live in very hilly areas.

Video below of a Brit converting a Trek to an ebike with kit bought off ebay.

rugman18/08/2019 10:19

My daily commute is 6 miles, but involves a huge hill. I use to cycle one …My daily commute is 6 miles, but involves a huge hill. I use to cycle one day a week, the rest of the time drive the car. The day I rode in, I would arrive at work hot and sweaty, so would need to bring in work clothes, towel, and stuff for the shower.Three years ago my work starting charging for parking, so I decided to get an ebike. Since then I cycle every day (in all weathers) in my work clothes, arrive at work cool and relaxed (breeze up that big hill without breaking a sweat).I save a couple of quid parking per day, another couple of quid petrol, my car sits on the drive all week, so hardly any miles affecting depreciation or wear and tear on that. The ebike costs about 12p to fully charge (a full charge lasts me 2 days)I'm lucky in that most of the route I take is cycle path, so breeze past the gridlocked cars, and most of the time arrive at work faster than I would if I drove.I also find it a great stress buster, a chance to unwind on the way home, which I don't do when driving.I often take the ebike out at the weekend for 45-50 mile (or upto 80 mile with additional battery) rides, I not sure I would do that on my conventional road bike as often, so although I being assisted, I'm still getting exercise that I probably wouldn't staying at home. Plus we've got some beautiful scenery in this country, you see so much more on a bike, especially on an ebike, as you can enjoy it more without head down flat out on a road bike.I will warn you though, if you do get an ebike, you WILL become addicted to wanting to get out and ride it at every opportunity !




I tend to find that even though i dont have to pedal much on my ebike, i get exercise by steering and balancing the bike
Edited by: "lumsdot" 18th Aug
rugman18/08/2019 10:19

My daily commute is 6 miles, but involves a huge hill. I use to cycle one …My daily commute is 6 miles, but involves a huge hill. I use to cycle one day a week, the rest of the time drive the car. The day I rode in, I would arrive at work hot and sweaty, so would need to bring in work clothes, towel, and stuff for the shower.Three years ago my work starting charging for parking, so I decided to get an ebike. Since then I cycle every day (in all weathers) in my work clothes, arrive at work cool and relaxed (breeze up that big hill without breaking a sweat).I save a couple of quid parking per day, another couple of quid petrol, my car sits on the drive all week, so hardly any miles affecting depreciation or wear and tear on that. The ebike costs about 12p to fully charge (a full charge lasts me 2 days)I'm lucky in that most of the route I take is cycle path, so breeze past the gridlocked cars, and most of the time arrive at work faster than I would if I drove.I also find it a great stress buster, a chance to unwind on the way home, which I don't do when driving.I often take the ebike out at the weekend for 45-50 mile (or upto 80 mile with additional battery) rides, I not sure I would do that on my conventional road bike as often, so although I being assisted, I'm still getting exercise that I probably wouldn't staying at home. Plus we've got some beautiful scenery in this country, you see so much more on a bike, especially on an ebike, as you can enjoy it more without head down flat out on a road bike.I will warn you though, if you do get an ebike, you WILL become addicted to wanting to get out and ride it at every opportunity !


I hear what you are saying. I do the same commute and have done for 30 or so more years and cycle over 6000 miles a year, I wont be getting an ebike anytime soon. Cycling is the ultimate eco friendly transport batteries kill this. But if it works for you crack on
Biggunspaul18/08/2019 09:55

For what it's worth,me and the Mrs just purchased an e bike each and we …For what it's worth,me and the Mrs just purchased an e bike each and we didn't get them because we wanted to be eco friendly or because we have a medical condition,we simply purchased them because they are fun to ride.We first tried e bikes out whilst abroad on holiday and from start to finish they put a grin on our faces.We even hired out one of those family bikes that seats about half a dozen people and that had a motor and was a right laugh.People say you can buy a light weight bike which is far cheaper but we like the feel of the motor kicking in and the fact we can ride for miles without even breaking a sweat,and trust me when I say that no bike with an average user will get up a steep hill like an ebike can.All that said you can make e biking as hard or as easy as you like.Put it in turbo mode and you can ride for 20 miles and feel as fresh as you left,or you can turn the motor off completely and have the hardest ride you will ever haveAs for them running out of power and then struggling,you must be doing something seriously wrong if you manage to get miles away from home with a flat e bike battery as they have good range and they will constantly tell you how much range you have left in each mode,so it is no different to managing the fuel level in you car.I know ours have a range of around 80 miles on eco mode,so more than enough for an average ride out i would say.I have just made a video about the unboxing of each bike and also will be making a few follow up video about ownership of them,including showing how easy they are going up steep hills with the motor on and then doing the same again with the motor off.[Image] [Image]


Each to there own its not for me. If you want easy and no sweat get a scooter. The fun for me is the challenge and no hill is to big.
Cro_Baron18/08/2019 10:48

My mid drive motor does 40mph and its 1750 watts and 150nm torque


Ok good for you?
bonzobanana18/08/2019 10:04

What do you feel is not very good about this bike and what would be your …What do you feel is not very good about this bike and what would be your alternative choice?All the components on the bike look good quality and hub motors have a reputation for being very reliable albeit lacking the torque of mid-mount motors. The lack of battery capacity and limited range is an issue but not really a quality issue. The bike is relatively light for an e-bike and can be ridden without power assistance if necessary which is not true of many much heavier e-bikes. If you only use assistance for the hills the range can be massively extended. I think people need to focus on the components fitted to the bike rather than make assumptions based on the brand. This is a very capable mountain bike fitted with a fairly lightweight motor hub and battery pack. It's described as a high torque hub motor but it will likely still be low torque compared to a entry level mid-mount motor in comparison but certainly plenty of torque for going up hills on roads just not steep sections off-road.


You focus on the motor not the bike. The components are not great and for the money you can get much better and if you think 19k is light think on, I knew as soon as I questioned e bikes this would happen. I personally am not a fan
Bluedrh18/08/2019 11:06

Each to there own its not for me. If you want easy and no sweat get a …Each to there own its not for me. If you want easy and no sweat get a scooter. The fun for me is the challenge and no hill is to big.


For me it's not just about having it easy, it's being able to use a cycle path or off road trail to get to work. Riding a scooter, I'd be stuck on the road along with all the cars.

I think the stigma with ebikes in this country is that most people here see cycling as a sport, a challenge, and that ebikes are in some strange way as 'cheating'. Whereas on the continent, cycling is predominantly seen as a form of transport, so ebikes are normal.
Last year in Germany alone, 1 million ebikes were sold, that's 1 in 4 of every bike sold there. Over 30% of all bikes sold in Holland are electric. Compare this to the UK of 12%, but that's up from 5% the previous year.
I know from my commute there are more and more getting into ebiking
golfie18/08/2019 10:24

I'll give my two pence on the ebike debate. Like most other people, I've a …I'll give my two pence on the ebike debate. Like most other people, I've a bike in my garage not being used. The reason? Last time I used it I remember the steep hills and the pain getting to the top. Even at my fittest the hills are a killer. Anyone who thinks differ different I applaud your mental strength .


What you see as mental strength in others I tend to see as obstenance by some to accept progress and a foolish notion that cycling has to be suffering. There are those who make judgements having never ridden an ebike and who refuse to accept it's not either/or but you can have both and each has their place, and as cyclists like to buy many bikes it's a no brainer for them not to add at least one to the fold.

If it gets people out on a bike when they wouldn't otherwise bother is what matters, oh and that feeling it gives you of being a kid again is priceless.
Edited by: "RoobyRoo" 18th Aug
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