Guild BRUSHLESS hammer drill kit with 2x Li-ion batteries, charger and carry case down to £79.99 at Argos.
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Guild BRUSHLESS hammer drill kit with 2x Li-ion batteries, charger and carry case down to £79.99 at Argos.

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Found 7th Jan
Brushless is the latest technology in cordless power tools and it's claimed to offer more power, more run time and much longer motor life than conventional technology - but it still has a hefty premium over earlier types.

I've had great service from Guild cordless rechargeable tools (Argos and, previously, Homebase own brand) and noticed this brushless hammer drill kit has been reduced (only by £5 but it's much cheaper than other makes of brushless drill).
Comes with 2 x 1.5Ah Li-ion batteries, carry case and charger.

If you're looking for a new cordless hammer drill at the moment it's probably worth investing the extra in the newer technology.

See also my other post for reduced price on extra batteries:

hotukdeals.com/dea…607
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Avoid this junk. You can get a Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus with two 18 2.0 Ah lithium-ion batteries and L-Boxx for just £10 more.
Spend a little more and get something better. If this was £50 it would be good but it priced too close to better quality drills.
luvsadeal8 m ago

Spend a little more and get something better. If this was £50 it would be …Spend a little more and get something better. If this was £50 it would be good but it priced too close to better quality drills.



Please define quality. More expensive does not mean better quality.
DistortedVision13 m ago

Avoid this junk. You can get a Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus with …Avoid this junk. You can get a Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus with two 18 2.0 Ah lithium-ion batteries and L-Boxx for just £10 more.



What a totally stupid comment. Junk?
Personal would pay another £20-30 and get dewalt or Bosch pro but this might be all someone wants to or could spend heat for the price
DistortedVision23 m ago

Avoid this junk. You can get a Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus with …Avoid this junk. You can get a Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus with two 18 2.0 Ah lithium-ion batteries and L-Boxx for just £10 more.


Link please, thank
deanos5 m ago

Link please, thank


hotukdeals.com/dea…023

Regular deals. This one from a couple of weeks ago. I personally got this with a 4ah battery from screwfix about 1 yr ago. Also £89.

Aware it's not Brushless and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the pros and cons of either. I personally would go with a Bosch professional over this Guild but also wouldn't say the Guild is junk.
MrWani5 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bosch-professional-gsb-18-2-li-plus-cordless-combi-drill-with-two-18-v-20-ah-lithium-ion-batteries-l-boxx-8999-amazon-2860023Regular deals. This one from a couple of weeks ago. I personally got this with a 4ah battery from screwfix about 1 yr ago. Also £89. Aware it's not Brushless and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the pros and cons of either. I personally would go with a Bosch professional over this Guild but also wouldn't say the Guild is junk.



So not 'Brushless'? I am totally confused as this is a post about a 'Brushless' drill. Is it just me as the late great Terry Wogan would say?
This one also much better, SAME PRICE (amazon.co.uk/Bos…6C/?tag=ho01f-21&th=1)
fulous4 m ago

This is quality for just a little more …This is quality for just a little more (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DYSZQJA/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=)



Quality. Please define? Just your opinion which is of interest only to you!
fulous1 m ago

This one also much better, SAME PRICE …This one also much better, SAME PRICE (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Cordless-Combi-Lithium-Ion-Battery/dp/B00L3XK06C/?tag=ho01f-21&th=1)



Brushless??
Yea I wouldn’t agree either this is junk but I would agree (brushless pros and cons aside) the Bosch blue is the way to go if you can afford the extra cost.

Torque is quite important when thinking of a combi hammer drill and this one is quite decent at 50Nm but the Bosch blue will give 63Nm, that might not sound like a lot more but in reality that extra power will be very useful especially when drilling into brick.

Also the Bosch has 2AH batteries so will last longer as opposed to the lower 1.5AH, not much in it though overall.

Apart from that not much difference really or at least not that much that you’d notice when using either drill.

Voted hot.
Edited by: "pennyfarthing88" 7th Jan
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DistortedVision42 m ago

Avoid this junk. You can get a Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus with …Avoid this junk. You can get a Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus with two 18 2.0 Ah lithium-ion batteries and L-Boxx for just £10 more.


My search suggests +£20 at Powertoolworld (can you provide a link at +£10?) and I would point out that it's not a hammer drill nor is it brushless. Apples and pears really.

Calling this junk is unwarranted (I've had great experience with other Guild products) but if you really can get a respected, branded brushless hammer drill with all the kit for £10 more then fair enough.

I have two 'systems' of cordless tools: Guild and Ryobi. Both have served me well with zero failures in a complete house refurb. I may have just been lucky but in my experience the Guild stuff (bought in Homebase clearance) has been superior to Ryobi. I guess you're going to tell me Ryobi is junk too?

I have no problem with cold voting but please try to be objective and compare like with like!
Edited by: "Besford" 7th Jan
tintowellfan34 m ago

Please define quality. More expensive does not mean better quality.


To be honest that’s a bit of a bizarre statement to make really. I’d be guessing you’re not a tradesman/serious user of any power tools because, with the greatest of respect, if you need someone to define the quality difference between cheap power tools and expensive top end power tools then you can’t possibly have much knowledge on the subject to begin with
Besford8 m ago

My search suggests +£20 at Powertoolworld (can you provide a link at …My search suggests +£20 at Powertoolworld (can you provide a link at +£10?) and I would point out that it's not a hammer drill nor is it brushless. Apples and pears really. Calling this junk is unwarranted (I've had great experience with other Guild products) but if you really can get a respected, branded brushless hammer drill with all the kit for £10 more then fair enough.I have two 'systems' of cordless tools: Guild and Ryobi. Both have served me well with zero failures in a complete house refurb. I may have just been lucky but in my experience the Guild stuff (bought in Homebase clearance) has been superior to Ryobi. I guess you're going to tell me Ryobi is junk too?I have no problem with cold voting but please try to be objective and compare like with like!



Exactly. Your post is about a 'Brushless' drill. Any post about anything else is just nonsense. Please reply with posts about a better priced or better specified 'BRUSHLESS' item. FFS.
fulous14 m ago

This one also much better, SAME PRICE …This one also much better, SAME PRICE (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Cordless-Combi-Lithium-Ion-Battery/dp/B00L3XK06C/?tag=ho01f-21&th=1)


Had this drill wasn't a big fan I own Bosch pro which is much better.
Personally I'd spend the extra bit and go for this drill

argos.co.uk/pro…997

The build quality of the guild drill imo (talking from owning one) isn't as good as it could be, it doesn't feel right in the hand, however my Stanley and Hitachi drills feels much better in build quality and in the hand.

Plus, more of a range of tools the Stanley batteries can be used in
tintowellfan27 m ago

Exactly. Your post is about a 'Brushless' drill. Any post about anything …Exactly. Your post is about a 'Brushless' drill. Any post about anything else is just nonsense. Please reply with posts about a better priced or better specified 'BRUSHLESS' item. FFS.


Why the obsession with any alternative having to be brushless? Whilst it will give you a run time benefit (up to +30% allegedly) it doesn’t really add anything else to a tool in this category (i.e. unlikely to be used professionally where the longevity of brushes might otherwise be an issue). I agree that the lack of hammer on the blue Bosch might be a deal breaker for some but I don’t agree that anything not brushless should be discounted.
fubar8886 m ago

Why the obsession with any alternative having to be brushless? Whilst it …Why the obsession with any alternative having to be brushless? Whilst it will give you a run time benefit (up to +30% allegedly) it doesn’t really add anything else to a tool in this category (i.e. unlikely to be used professionally where the longevity of brushes might otherwise be an issue). I agree that the lack of hammer on the blue Bosch might be a deal breaker for some but I don’t agree that anything not brushless should be discounted.



BUT the OP was about a BRUSHLESS drill. What part of that is difficult for you to get?
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fubar88822 m ago

Why the obsession with any alternative having to be brushless? Whilst it …Why the obsession with any alternative having to be brushless? Whilst it will give you a run time benefit (up to +30% allegedly) it doesn’t really add anything else to a tool in this category (i.e. unlikely to be used professionally where the longevity of brushes might otherwise be an issue). I agree that the lack of hammer on the blue Bosch might be a deal breaker for some but I don’t agree that anything not brushless should be discounted.


How about this one then: it's not brushless and it's only £6875.95 more but it is German:
hotukdeals.com/dea…780

You say "unlikely to be used professionally" and then promote a Bosch Professional!

Like I said earlier - I don't mind cold votes (give plenty of them myself) but let's compare apples and apples.
tintowellfan1 h, 25 m ago

Please define quality. More expensive does not mean better quality.


I brought an erbauer set which is the same but rebranded. After using twice it wouldn’t charge. The whole thing was a bit cheap and nasty even down to the case not closing. I returned and brought makita. I’m not a tool snob I buy quality branded tools if it’s something I use regularly but for occasional use items I will buy budget. Had some good items from Lidl.
luvsadeal6 m ago

I brought an erbauer set which is the same but rebranded. After using …I brought an erbauer set which is the same but rebranded. After using twice it wouldn’t charge. The whole thing was a bit cheap and nasty even down to the case not closing. I returned and brought makita. I’m not a tool snob I buy quality branded tools if it’s something I use regularly but for occasional use items I will buy budget. Had some good items from Lidl.



Not sure what your point is. Bust just confirmed yourself as brand snob. Wow..
Whatever. I just said I had purchased and wasn’t good quality so have a more valid opinion then you. I am also a tradesman so have experience so I think my comments are valid. If you want to buy cheap and buy twice go ahead. The fact the deal has gone cold also shows the majority agree.
luvsadeal7 m ago

Whatever. I just said I had purchased and wasn’t good quality so have a m …Whatever. I just said I had purchased and wasn’t good quality so have a more valid opinion then you. I am also a tradesman so have experience so I think my comments are valid. If you want to buy cheap and buy twice go ahead. The fact the deal has gone cold also shows the majority agree.


I like my cordless power tools like I like my women, easy to pick up, full of stamina and does the job first time.

Yes, I am that shallow 🙄
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Edited by: "luvsadeal" 7th Jan
It's just a drill ffs, chill people!

I own the bosch blue personally but with 3x 1.5ah batteries. Very light, put a summer house together without issue. Have since ordered a 4ah battery but am yet to need it.
Besford1 h, 50 m ago

How about this one then: it's not brushless and it's only £6875.95 more …How about this one then: it's not brushless and it's only £6875.95 more but it is German:https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/audi-a4-14t-fsi-s-line-s-tronic-wtech-pack-alcantra-leather-623-lease-695594-swansway-2857780You say "unlikely to be used professionally" and then promote a Bosch Professional!Like I said earlier - I don't mind cold votes (give plenty of them myself) but let's compare apples and apples.


Not promoting any particular alternative but cannot understand your obsession with brushless. Please explain why a brushed combi shouldn't be considered.

BTW, having checked, the bosch mentioned is, in fact, a combi so it does have hammer action (still not promoting it, just setting the record straight for those who are considering all sensible options).
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Wow, this thread seems to have got well out of hand!

Whichever side of the unnecessary argument you were on, thanks for your opinion. I'll take the cold with the hot. Clearly I believed in the post or I wouldn't have taken the time to make it but I've learned a few things here.

Clearly the people have voted and the vote is freezing cold.

Think I'll expire this one before someone gets hurt!
Edited by: "Besford" 8th Jan
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