Haier HNS1460TVE White Washing Machine was £229.99  now was £175.19 @ Argos
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Haier HNS1460TVE White Washing Machine was £229.99 now was £175.19 @ Argos

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Found 12th Jan 2009
Haier HNS1460TVE White Washing Machine

Energy rating A.

Washing performance A.

Spinning performance B.

Maximum spin speed 1400rpm.

Maximum washing capacity 6kg.



Variable washing temperature.

Variable spin speed.

Cold water fill.

Up to 24 hours delayed start option.

LED display.

Child lock.

Size (H)85, (W)59.5, (D)56.5cm.



11 programmes in total, including:

127 minute 30C cotton wash.

29 minute quick wash.

Woollens.


Technical specifications:

Energy consumption: 1.14kWh/cycle.

Water consumption: 49 litres/cycle.

Estimated annual energy consumption: 228kWh/year.

Estimated annual water consumption: 9,800 litres/year.

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£175.19
was £229.99

19 Comments

Not voting on this one as I don't know the brand etc but the 'Maximum spin speed of 1400rpm' is not the greatest to be fair.

Most domestic appliance engineers say that over a 1200 spin is not a benefit.

I'm not knocking this machine just commenting on the previous post.

I'm unsure of the reliabiity of these machines though.

From having read up about these after the last time they were posted, purely out of curiosity - I have a Bosch, I would say steer a wide berth, in fact I reckon keep your barge pole locked up, they are by many accounts complete rubbish.

The fact that I have read on several occasions that Comet salesmen were going above their usual high standard of dishonesty says it all really.

mercurystar999;4041847

[SIZE="3"]Most domestic appliance engineers say that over a 1200 spin is … [SIZE="3"]Most domestic appliance engineers say that over a 1200 spin is not a benefit. [/SIZE] I'm not knocking this machine just commenting on the previous post. I'm unsure of the reliabiity of these machines though.

Most or one or two you spoke to once?

VDisillusioned;4042320

The fact that I have read on several occasions that Comet salesmen were … The fact that I have read on several occasions that Comet salesmen were going above their usual high standard of dishonesty says it all really.



I work for Comet and I find that comment offensive. You are painting all sales people with the same brush. I work in sales and always do the best by my customers.

mercurystar999;4041847

Most domestic appliance engineers say that over a 1200 spin is not a … Most domestic appliance engineers say that over a 1200 spin is not a benefit.



That comment is simply nonsensical :-(

The obvious benefit being faster spin speed produces drier clothes.This site seems a little more authoritative than these "most" engineers at least it would appear to fit in with basic principles of physics!
whitegoodshelp.co.uk/wor…ts/

shaunpriest;4043417

I work for Comet and I find that comment offensive. You are painting all … I work for Comet and I find that comment offensive. You are painting all sales people with the same brush. I work in sales and always do the best by my customers.


Well said. good for you Shaun. :thumbsup:

shaunpriest;4043417

I work for Comet and I find that comment offensive. You are painting all … I work for Comet and I find that comment offensive. You are painting all sales people with the same brush. I work in sales and always do the best by my customers.



So you tell the truth about this machine when someone asks then do you?

shaunpriest;4043417

I work for Comet and I find that comment offensive. You are painting all … I work for Comet and I find that comment offensive. You are painting all sales people with the same brush. I work in sales and always do the best by my customers.



I apologise, I'm only going by my own experience and comments made about this machine. Oh and many other experiences of friends and family.

VDisillusioned;4043676

I apologise, I'm only going by my own experience and comments made about … I apologise, I'm only going by my own experience and comments made about this machine. Oh and many other experiences of friends and family.



Apology accepted. I just find it upsetting people disrespecting where I work, as I really work hard at my job and strive to deliver outstanding customer service. And it isn't just me, it is all of my colleagues too. It disappoints me to read comments like that, that's all.

sbfc;4043523

So you tell the truth about this machine when someone asks then do you?



There is a way of telling the truth but still coming across with some tact. And if I was asked about the reliability, I would tell the customer that they don't have the best reputation for reliability due to a large amount of them coming with circuit boards not intended for the UK (hence why there was a lot of problems with these) but that was months ago, maybe even over a year. The ones that are shipped now operate fine. Haier is usually priced at the entry level. If a customer has concerns with the brand, I let them know that it wouldn't cost must extra to go to say, a Hotpoint (i.e. Comet was recently doing a Hotpoint model for roughly £195).

Another misconception is that we all earn commission in Comet. That is false. We get targeted, but there is no commission. it doesn't matter if I sell a Haier or a Meile - I don't benefit out of it. That is exactly the reason Comet done away with commission - so there is no incentive for the staff member to push towards a particular model that would benefit me rather than the customer. Therefore you get a trustworthy and genuine opinion and sold the correct solution for you.

Blasphemous;4043515

Well said. good for you Shaun. :thumbsup:



Thank you!

nihcaj;4043503

That comment is simply nonsensical :-(The obvious benefit being faster … That comment is simply nonsensical :-(The obvious benefit being faster spin speed produces drier clothes.This site seems a little more authoritative than these "most" engineers at least it would appear to fit in with basic principles of physics!http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/wordpress/washing-machine-spin-speed-efficiency-figures-and-drying-costs/




That article agrees with me!!

i think its a really good deal. i have this washing machine and silver, ive had it for 6 months and no problems whatsoever and it looks smart with the digital display

mercurystar999;4044047

That article agrees with me!!



I think you need to read it - in fact not just read it, analyse it!
I seem to remember spending a LOT of time in school writing comprehension exercises in English lessons, and there is proof if any were needed that it was a good idea though I never thought so at the time!

It could not be further away from the unreasoned comment you made as it explains a lot - for example it makes several different points about the pluses and minuses, and makes the point that it depends on circumstance, the price of electricity and plenty of other factors
For example:
"If you use a tumble dryer excessively it may be worth considering a higher spin speed but again, the figures show that if you may need to jump to an 1800 spin to get a significant difference and currently an 1800 spin is likely to cost so much more it’s debatable whether you will save much money at the end of the day unless you tumble dry all the time. It will still save some drying time though."

I suppose it depends how much time is a factor, and how much you end up paying for a particular machine.
It even mentions current high fuel costs as being a change since the original article was written, and gives links to discussions where the pros and cons have been chewed over.

It's a good read, and makes a lot of sense but the conclusions I come out with are different to yours! From that, it implies to me that if you dry everything on the line, and have plenty of space and time, a slow machine is probably fine, and will be probably cheaper BUT if you dry it all by tumble drier, knowing the current sky high cost of power, and also if you don't want to wait all day for it to finish, then a spin speed as fast as you can afford makes sense in that situation!

As it happens that last situation fits my circumstances completely, and is one of the circumstances I based my last washer and drier purchases on - it is precisely the reason I DO have a 1600 washer, as well as an "A" rated tumble drier. Since electricity prices have risen, that advice stands, but far more so!

One thing it definitely doesn't say is "Most domestic appliance engineers say that over a 1200 spin is not a benefit."

mercurystar999;4044047

That article agrees with me!!

Oh it agrees with 'YOU' does it? Earlier it was...

mercurystar999:[SIZE="3"]Most domestic appliance engineers[/SIZE] say … mercurystar999:[SIZE="3"]Most domestic appliance engineers[/SIZE] say that over a 1200 spin is not a benefit.

lol.....the debate on how fast your washng machine spins continues!

Yes... faster spin is best BUT it depends on what you have in your machine.


If you just have some bath towles then spin them as fast as you can.... they soak up loads of water and doesn't matter about bobberling or shap distortion!

Now other items you migt not want to spin at all!!!


The washing machine I went for wasn't decided on the spin speed but the fact it knows what your washing!!

It knows whats inside due to the amount of water the items soak up..... then works out just how much washing lquid it needs to clean said items!

Now thats saving the planet and my money.... plus it will spin just as fast as it likes and will NEVER bobble or distort my clothes.


Only downside is... it cost nearly £1000...but I'll never need to buy another :-D

Tommy_K;4074809

lol.....the debate on how fast your washng machine spins continues!Yes... … lol.....the debate on how fast your washng machine spins continues!Yes... faster spin is best BUT it depends on what you have in your machine.If you just have some bath towles then spin them as fast as you can.... they soak up loads of water and doesn't matter about bobberling or shap distortion!Now other items you migt not want to spin at all!!!The washing machine I went for wasn't decided on the spin speed but the fact it knows what your washing!!It knows whats inside due to the amount of water the items soak up..... then works out just how much washing lquid it needs to clean said items!Now thats saving the planet and my money.... plus it will spin just as fast as it likes and will NEVER bobble or distort my clothes.Only downside is... it cost nearly £1000...but I'll never need to buy another :-D



Well, clearly it is a global secret as to what this machine is too! :whistling:

I have done some homework before, looking at so called premium brands, and found that going TOO far up the scale doesn't necessarily pay off - for example, a ten or even 20 year warranty is not actually the same thing as a machine lasting forever. In 10 years time it is going to make a kitchen look like an old one too, and however well made will still be showing all the knocks & bangs, as well as probably not being as energy efficient as something leading-edge will be in say 10 years time!

I took a more middle road - 5 year warranty hoping to get a bit more say 7 or 8 if I was lucky (which I am almost never!) and got a Siemens. The figures seem to work for me, but not necessarily for everyone, and I can certainly see the point of paying low price, and replacing more often, even though it might not be best for the planet!

The BIG factor for me was one that has not been mentioned yet - NOISE level - the cheap machines CAN be extremely noisy - the last Ariston one I had made the whole house almost uninhabitable while it was one, and was painful when spinning - the noisiest thing I have ever experienced, and I replaced it while it still had 18 months to run on warranty, after it had broken down for the umpteenth time - I was just glad to see it go, and get some peace, and not have to drag soaking washing out and get it to the bath again and again when it conked out!
(it's true... Ariston washers DO go on, and on, and on - but that's just the drone of noise, NOT the reliability!) :x

sorry.. didn't want to go down the "mine is better cos I've bought a *******" I was pointing out that spin speed doesn't determin how good a machine is.

I've got a Miele and yes noise is a HUGE factor! Can have the washing machine on, full spin while having my dinner in the same room without the need to raise my voice.

Apart from the bearings being completely metal and enclosed preventing moisture or dust turning the grease into chewing gum (main reason bearings fail on cheap machines) it has a cast iron frame, NOT lumps on concreat hung around to keep it stable.

Now I can bore the hind legs off a donkey with why a Miele machine will last forever & why you can't scratch them (enameled like an Aga) plus the door is made of the plastic riot shields are made of, so u have seriously bash them.... if you wanted too.

Plus a Miele looks like an old machine already, bit like a Volvo.... never really in or out of date.


BUT the main point of this thread is..... IT'S A £175!! thats nearly 6 of my washing machine!

You get what you pay for everytime, but if you need a washing machine and lets face it, they are distressed purchases most of the time, then to suddenly find £200, £500 or more isn't always possible!

right who's got 1 better :-p

Tommy_K;4133541

sorry.. didn't want to go down the "mine is better cos I've bought a … sorry.. didn't want to go down the "mine is better cos I've bought a *******" I was pointing out that spin speed doesn't determin how good a machine is.right who's got 1 better :-p



Wasn't much interested in whose was better... as you say, Miele are about 6x the price, so I wold HOPE it is!

I looked at all the options when I bought mine, and TRIED to make an informed choice based on what I wanted, and what I didn't, and thus far I think I did the right thing... as you seem to have done something similar, parhaps with differnt starting criteria.. OK, we ended up with differing end results, but at least it was an INFORMED decision :-)

I was SO fed up with my ultra noisy Ariston, when it broke down, I got it fixed again under warranty, KNOWING it would conk out again soonish, and then planned and researched in good time, with the realisation that the NEXT time it died, it would go to the tip, and I already knew which model I would be buying even though some of the warranty on the old one remained! Waste of money, I know, but that's how bad it was! :-(

As you say, most are a distressed purchase, and I would definitely recommend people have a GOOD idea what they are going to buy next time, so they don't have to make those RASH decisions! :-)
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