Half Price TENS Machines from £19.99 @ Lloyds Pharmacy
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Half Price TENS Machines from £19.99 @ Lloyds Pharmacy

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Found 15th Oct 2009
Lloyds Pharmacy have a small selection of their TENS Machines reducced to alf price. Prices now start at £19.99 ...

* Dual Channel TENS Machine - Now £19.99 (was £39.99)
* Heated TENS Machine - Now £29.99 (was £59.99)
* Heated TENS Machine + half price replacement pads - Now £35.98 (was £71.99)
* Dual Channel TENS Machine + half price replacement pads - - Now £23.98 (was £47.99)

41 Comments

Has anyone used one of these? does it make any difference!!

I've never used one of these but a friend of mine did with her last birth and she thinks they're great...If anyone was wanting to use one during labour and has a Surestart centre near them then its worth asking them if they loan them out before buying one...my local surestart loaned my friend one without any charge...it's not very well advertised as I had no idea they did that until she went to pick hers up! Heat added by the way! Good prices there for TENS machines!

Edit: I've just clicked on the link and realised that it says not suitable for use during labour? Not sure why as they are recommended by midwives in my experience?! Still a good price for anyone suffering a bad back etc

comet06;6587428

Edit: I've just clicked on the link and realised that it says not … Edit: I've just clicked on the link and realised that it says not suitable for use during labour? Not sure why as they are recommended by midwives in my experience?!



I think that if they are to be used in labour they have to be "certified" to be safe. Obviously by some some over-bloated gravy train standards body or accredited company, which of course would add to the price somewhat.

I use our ten pound Lloyds machine for things like back pain. The feelings range from mildly pleasant to excruciatingly uncomfortable but it does help get rid of the pain.

solid;6587254

Has anyone used one of these? does it make any difference!!



Utterly feeble effect... As a long term chronic pain sufferer I bought one a good while back and paid 80 quid for a very ineffective gadget; others claim it beats a divine miracle at Lourdes, as well as a Kilogram of Heroin thrown in for good measure! I rate it about as effective as one Paracetamol tablet... ie.not very!

Don't buy one, try and BORROW one from your GP, or a Physiotherapist, as they are available this way with a bit of asking - that way you can try before you buy.

Some people don't like me saying this, and will now bleat on endlessly about how wonderful they are, and most of all, try and convince you to spend your money, (have they got a vested interest?) but hey, this is a site dedicated to saving money, so don't spend until you know it's any good... I am convinced not very many WILL spend!

The wife had serious back pain a while back, resulting in spinal surgery. The TENS machine she bought from Boots helped enormously until the surgery put everything right.

May not work for everybody, but certainly did for her. And as a professional within the NHS, she was pretty open-minded about the whole thing before trying the TENS machine.

you do need a different type for use during labour,and people do find them effective to relive pain,i do work in a pharmacy and i get lots of positive feedback

Banned

They work by placebo effect. Simliar to prayer or healing crystals etc.
As mentioned above borrow one, never ever pay for one as you are funding con artists and fake science

I have a tens machine. Before I bought it I was loaned one for a month or so by the Canterbury pain clinic at the hospital. I used it a lot (all day and half the night) before I had twice yearly lumbar epidurals. Sometimes I felt a bit self conscious being wired up but it was very effective for me. I have inflammed sciatic nerve due to curved spine = sciatia and lower back pain. Takes a bit of experimenting to get the frequency and placement right for you.

Mascherano;6588297

They work by placebo effect. Simliar to prayer or healing crystals etc.As … They work by placebo effect. Simliar to prayer or healing crystals etc.As mentioned above borrow one, never ever pay for one as you are funding con artists and fake science



Fool, they are known to work in two ways:
On a high frequency, by selectively stimulating certain 'non-pain' nerve fibres to send signals to the brain that block other nerve signals carrying pain messages.
On low frequencies, by stimulating the production of endorphins, natural pain-relieving hormones.
the pain signal from the nerve ends to the CNS is reduced, thus giving a reduced sensation of pain.

As with almost all remedies/treatments, not everyone feels the same effect, but for most people it can and does reduce the sensation of pain.:thumbsup:

Mascherano;6588297

They work by placebo effect. Simliar to prayer or healing crystals etc.



An interesting opinion, but not, I'm afraid, one that the NHS would agree with.

Banned

blodnik;6588932

Fool, they are known to work in two ways:On a high frequency, by … Fool, they are known to work in two ways:On a high frequency, by selectively stimulating certain 'non-pain' nerve fibres to send signals to the brain that block other nerve signals carrying pain messages.On low frequencies, by stimulating the production of endorphins, natural pain-relieving hormones.the pain signal from the nerve ends to the CNS is reduced, thus giving a reduced sensation of pain. As with almost all remedies/treatments, not everyone feels the same effect, but for most people it can and does reduce the sensation of pain.:thumbsup:


Thats fake science, pal. Melzack and Wall's Gate Control Theory isn't real- what makes you think it is?
Newbold;6590612

An interesting opinion, but not, I'm afraid, one that the NHS would agree … An interesting opinion, but not, I'm afraid, one that the NHS would agree with.


The NHS need to re-evaluate the scientific evidence, then.

Mascherano;6588297

They work by placebo effect. Simliar to prayer or healing crystals etc.As … They work by placebo effect. Simliar to prayer or healing crystals etc.As mentioned above borrow one, never ever pay for one as you are funding con artists and fake science



I have a question for you...

Does it matter?

- So lets say these DO work for some people, based on actual physical reactions to the stimulus, when placed in the correct place, and used at a frequency that suits you.
Everyone is happy, spend £20 and save yourself taking the various chemicals and concoctions that are the alternative. :thumbsup:

- What if they don't work on the pysical body though, and actually all they are doing, as you say, are providing a placebo effect, that works only if you believe it will?
Those willing to try it spend £20, and hey it works, saving themselves taking the various chemicals and concoctions that are the alternative. :thumbsup:

So my point is, does it really matter if it is a placebo effect or not? If it works for you, then great!
All you are doing by trying to convince people it's only a placebo is effectively creating a negative placebo about them... not the most helpful thing!

One thing I would agree on though, is whether placebo or physical, these DO seem to work for some people, and not for others, so definitly borrow one, try it, and see if it works for you.
Although saying that for £20 you could probably resell it for close to that if you didn't like it, (or there is always xmas! :stocking: :gift: :santa: )

JamesCG26;6592253

My partner gave birth yesterday morning and did use the lloyds pharmacy … My partner gave birth yesterday morning and did use the lloyds pharmacy tens machine for part of the labour but there gets a point where is doe not have much affect.Also I would not recomment the lloyds pharmacy one, the gel pads wear out very quickly. After about two goes using it I had to stick the pads on to her using surgical tape.



[SIZE="6"]o wow!! massive congratualtions!!! :-D[/SIZE]

i used a tens for pregnancy/labour (u gotta make sure u an use this in labour before u buy it if thats ur reason for purchase) and to be fair i didnt think it worked. was annoying more than anything else. but each to their own.

Banned

Funder;6592353

I have a question for you...Does it matter?- So lets say these DO work … I have a question for you...Does it matter?- So lets say these DO work for some people, based on actual physical reactions to the stimulus, when placed in the correct place, and used at a frequency that suits you.Everyone is happy, spend £20 and save yourself taking the various chemicals and concoctions that are the alternative. :thumbsup:- What if they don't work on the pysical body though, and actually all they are doing, as you say, are providing a placebo effect, that works only if you believe it will?Those willing to try it spend £20, and hey it works, saving themselves taking the various chemicals and concoctions that are the alternative. :thumbsup:So my point is, does it really matter if it is a placebo effect or not? If it works for you, then great!All you are doing by trying to convince people it's only a placebo is effectively creating a negative placebo about them... not the most helpful thing!One thing I would agree on though, is whether placebo or physical, these DO seem to work for some people, and not for others, so definitly borrow one, try it, and see if it works for you.Although saying that for £20 you could probably resell it for close to that if you didn't like it, (or there is always xmas! :stocking: :gift: :santa: )


Very good point. I just think the truth is important and misleading people with junk science is always wrong. I dont like the way people have to pay for this thing, and thereby fund another snake oil industry.

Borrow one of someone and just buy yourself some sticky pads from boots if you want to try one out first.

I know of 3 people who said a TENS machine helped loads when in labour.

I have a chronic back problem and have had 4 lots of surgery and also have seen physiotherapists, chiropractors, osteopaths, acupuncturists, pain management clinics etc etc etc

However for me the TENS machine is without doubt one of the best none invasive pain management devices that I have used. It does not work when I'm in an "acute" stage, then I rely a lot on my pain meds, but I would be at a loss without one of these units, and a couple of rechargeable PP3's.

Mine was more expensive, but very worthwhile, and bought from...

]http//ww…om/

(I claimed VAT back from my order of theTPN 800 ultra machine).

I have had my unit for many years now and it came with a lifetime guarantee. I dropped it a couple of times and, as they are local to me, I called up and they have fixed it for free - including a complete new body / shell.
They sell all the replacement pads and leads.

I bought my rechargeable batteries from here...

]http//ww…uk/

PP3 280 mAh Rechargeable Batteries Ni-MH. I have tried many brands of rechargeable batteries but have found the Vapex ones to be one of the best and not that expensive.

A TENS machine might not be suitable for everybody, as we all have different needs, but if you get the chance to try one out, our doctors surgery were offering them on a loan basis once, then it should be strongly considered.

Banned

Make sure you get a proper pregnancy one for birth. My wife used a mamatens and found it very effective. Just used that and gas and air ... for a 15 hour labour.

Banned

oh, ill have to get a girl pregnant first

I suffer from chronic pain and got to borrow a TENS machine from my local hospital's physiotherapy department (St Barts, London). I found it quite useful for masking pain and - when I told them - they said there was a charitable fund within the hospital (they didn't say which one) that would pay for a TENS machine for me; which was nice!

However, I have to remember that pain has a function and can play an important role in making sure that I avoid injury - so masking pain with TENS machines, medication, etc is not always a good thing.:thinking:

I am aware that occasionally both Grabitnow.com and boffer.co.uk sell off TENS machines for considerably less than 20 quid but I can't attest to their effectiveness.

Funder;6592353

I have a question for you...Does it matter?- So lets say these DO work … I have a question for you...Does it matter?- So lets say these DO work for some people, based on actual physical reactions to the stimulus, when placed in the correct place, and used at a frequency that suits you.Everyone is happy, spend £20 and save yourself taking the various chemicals and concoctions that are the alternative. :thumbsup:- What if they don't work on the pysical body though, and actually all they are doing, as you say, are providing a placebo effect, that works only if you believe it will?Those willing to try it spend £20, and hey it works, saving themselves taking the various chemicals and concoctions that are the alternative. :thumbsup:So my point is, does it really matter if it is a placebo effect or not? If it works for you, then great!All you are doing by trying to convince people it's only a placebo is effectively creating a negative placebo about them... not the most helpful thing!One thing I would agree on though, is whether placebo or physical, these DO seem to work for some people, and not for others, so definitly borrow one, try it, and see if it works for you.Although saying that for £20 you could probably resell it for close to that if you didn't like it, (or there is always xmas! :stocking: :gift: :santa: )



I couldn't say it any better! Lots of treatments work by placebo effect, the brain is one powerful thing. I even got rid of a fair few verrucas myself with just saliva, as long as you manage to convince yourself it's going to work.

As far as science is concerned, homeopathy only works as placebo, and look how well it works for some people, while on th eother hand for some others it doesn't achieve anything. The question is still open for acupuncture too although nobody would dare saying it doesn't work, so much so that the NHS now covers some of these treatments.

So the best is to give it a try yourself, keeping your mind open. If it works, fantastic. If it doesn't, fair enough, just move ahead knowing that at least you tried. As for me, I vote hot.

can i just add i gave birth july just gone and used the lloyds tens machine designed for pregnancy and it was brilliant. i was lost without it...i was in labour for 40 hrs n the batteries ran out half was through!! i could def tell the difference!! i swear by them...i was a bit dubious about the lloyds one as it was cheaper than the rest i had seen but it did everything the others did......the boost button is fab i paid £29.99 and worth every penny

Newbold;6590612

An interesting opinion, but not, I'm afraid, one that the NHS would agree … An interesting opinion, but not, I'm afraid, one that the NHS would agree with.



Ah yes.. that old chestnut! The NHS, of course, are arbiters of medical standards the world over....

I seem to remember the standard treatment for stomach ulcers was a Milk diet.... at least EIGHT YEARS after the rest of the world was treating Helicobacter pylori infections to get actual beneficial results!

Just because someone SAYS something works or doesn't work, doesn't mean it does! Try it out first if you can, and with this you CAN!

VimesUK;6592741

A TENS machine might not be suitable for everybody, as we all have … A TENS machine might not be suitable for everybody, as we all have different needs, but if you get the chance to try one out, our doctors surgery were offering them on a loan basis once, then it should be strongly considered.



Exactly.

So why do so many on these threads continually go on and ON about BUYING one?

It doesn't happen on other threads - if someone else was suggesting you could borrow a Laptop for a month before you bought it, there would be queues round the block!

NobbyB;6593266

Just used that and gas and air ... for a 15 hour labour.



If they are so good, why on earth would anyone need an old fashioned thing like Gas & air? :whistling:

Mascherano;6592513

Very good point. I just think the truth is important and misleading … Very good point. I just think the truth is important and misleading people with junk science is always wrong. I dont like the way people have to pay for this thing, and thereby fund another snake oil industry.



I'm 100% with you Mascherano.

And remember the NHS also funds homeopathy, which is 100% unquestionably snake oil. Don't use the NHS as the arbitor of real medicine.

janaltus;6593850

However, I have to remember that pain has a function and can play an … However, I have to remember that pain has a function and can play an important role in making sure that I avoid injury - so masking pain with TENS machines, medication, etc is not always a good thing.:thinking:



Come on!
I get annoyed when people are telling others to spend money for no good reason, but I am LIVID that someone should be offering homespun advice on pain control. :-(

There is a huge movement (in the USA in particular, but to a lesser extent here too) that is anti-drug for ANY pain relief, and it is a VERY DANGEROUS one.

Get your facts straight, read about it, experience it, get personal advice. Don't listen to those who have an anti drug agenda, this is not street "Crack," this is medical treatment! What next, withdraw Insulin from Diabetics, what about all those drugs for Cancer sufferers?

This is CHRONIC pain we are taking about here (TENS isn't something you are going to buy at the supermarket when you have banged your shins playing football!) Acute pain is another matter entirely and THAT is where pain serves a puprpose to prevent injury. Look at it another way - amputees with a limb MISSING still may get serious pain in the missing "limb" now is THAT there to prevent injury? Of coure not.

Lack of pain control KILLS people, serious depression and suicide among chronic pains sufferers isn't something to be belittled, as that is an all too common result of badly managed chronic pain.

Kiddson;6593916

So the best is to give it a try yourself, keeping your mind open. If it … So the best is to give it a try yourself, keeping your mind open. If it works, fantastic. If it doesn't, fair enough, just move ahead knowing that at least you tried. As for me, I vote hot.



Well, that's what I was saying... try it yourself.
So tell me why you should spend the money to try it when you can get a FREE trial?

"Why" is such as simple question, yet talk about TENS, and it ALWAYS involves having to spend money, people are so terrified that having a FREE trial means you might not spend money! I just can't understand - this is every single time one of these things appears on this site!

rb80;6594223

can i just add i gave birth july just gone and used the lloyds tens … can i just add i gave birth july just gone and used the lloyds tens machine designed for pregnancy and it was brilliant. i was lost without it...i was in labour for 40 hrs n the batteries ran out half was through!! i could def tell the difference!! i swear by them...i was a bit dubious about the lloyds one as it was cheaper than the rest i had seen but it did everything the others did......the boost button is fab i paid £29.99 and worth every penny



congrats on ur baby and YIKES to 40 hour labour!

Banned

[QUOTE=Kiddson;6593916]
The question is still open for acupuncture too although nobody would dare saying it doesn't work, so much so that the NHS now covers some of these treatments.
/QUOTE]

Are you serious? Acupuncture is based on the most ludicrous mystical nonsense I've ever heard. It cannot, ever, in any shape or form do what it actually claims to do. If acupuncture is valid then the laws of physics, biology and chemistry are ALL WRONG.
Get real, mate. Acupuncture works by placebo only.
Why are people thinking that if the NHS funds something then its true?

Banned

NobbyB;6593266

Make sure you get a proper pregnancy one for birth. My wife used a … Make sure you get a proper pregnancy one for birth. My wife used a mamatens and found it very effective. Just used that and gas and air ... for a 15 hour labour.



Sorry to tell you this, but gas and air works by placebo too.

Mascherano;6597234

[quote=Kiddson;6593916]The question is still open for acupuncture too … [quote=Kiddson;6593916]The question is still open for acupuncture too although nobody would dare saying it doesn't work, so much so that the NHS now covers some of these treatments.Are you serious? Acupuncture is based on the most ludicrous mystical nonsense I've ever heard. It cannot, ever, in any shape or form do what it actually claims to do. If acupuncture is valid then the laws of physics, biology and chemistry are ALL WRONG.Get real, mate. Acupuncture works by placebo only.Why are people thinking that if the NHS funds something then its true?



Mascherano;6597279

Sorry to tell you this, but gas and air works by placebo too.



It's all placebos. Everything. The lot. All drugs, all treatments. Don't trust the NHS on this - they're misleading us all. Trust Mascherano - he knows best. :whistling:

Newbold;6597375

[quote=Mascherano;6597234]It's all placebos. Everything. The lot. All … [quote=Mascherano;6597234]It's all placebos. Everything. The lot. All drugs, all treatments. Don't trust the NHS on this - they're misleading us all. Trust Mascherano - he knows best. :whistling:



He sure is, funny thing is that it sounds like he is the one who needs treatment - but then therapy is probably 'snake oil'. :whistling:

ps - does snake oil make them go faster or just less squeaky?

I have a TENS machine, the £29.99 one that has batteries and a power lead for the heat settings. You can attach this for portability to your waist band but to use the heat settings as well it needs to be plugged in without the batteries.
I have broken my neck and cerebral spine in a near-fatal motorcycle accident five years ago. I have been using all forms of pain killers with no effect just drowsiness until I picked up a TENS machine.
I no longer have the serious pains in my elbow and shoulder joints where I used to have steroid injections every 3 months.
It is rubbish to claim that it is a placebo effect because I have an MRI every year to keep an eye on my Syringomyelia, Hydrocephalus, Arnold Chiari Malformation Type 2 and fifteen other illnesses, ailments, disabilities etc. that are linked to the damage to my spine, brain and the rest of my body.
I have excruciating pain every second of the day. I don't do something unless it is a need because I am so incapacitated, the pain is unbearable. I even have to type with one hand and move around because no position is comfortable anymore.
I have to take 22 medications because I cannot exercise I have to watch everything I consume. I now have a growth and disease in my oesophagus that has not been diagnosed as cancerous yet. I am awaiting the results.
The TENS machine works for me but only on the higher settings. The pads are expensive to replace so they are affixed with surgical tape to keep them in place.
Unless you are so well it has no effect for you. Sorry got to go I can't type anymore.

I have a TENS machine, the £29.99 one that has batteries and a power lead for the heat settings. You can attach this for portability to your waist band but to use the heat settings as well it needs to be plugged in without the batteries.
I have broken my neck and cerebral spine in a near-fatal motorcycle accident five years ago. I have been using all forms of pain killers with no effect just drowsiness until I picked up a TENS machine.
I no longer have the serious pains in my elbow and shoulder joints where I used to have steroid injections every 3 months.
It is rubbish to claim that it is a placebo effect because I have an MRI every year to keep an eye on my Syringomyelia, Hydrocephalus, Arnold Chiari Malformation Type 2 and fifteen other illnesses, ailments, disabilities etc. that are linked to the damage to my spine, brain and the rest of my body.
I have excruciating pain every second of the day. I don't do something unless it is a need because I am so incapacitated, the pain is unbearable. I even have to type with one hand and move around because no position is comfortable anymore.
I have to take 22 medications because I cannot exercise I have to watch everything I consume. I now have a growth and disease in my oesophagus that has not been diagnosed as cancerous yet. I am awaiting the results.
The TENS machine works for me but only on the higher settings. The pads are expensive to replace so they are affixed with surgical tape to keep them in place.
Unless you are so well it has no effect for you. Sorry got to go I can't type anymore.

nihcaj;6594397

Come on! I get annoyed when people are telling others to spend money for … Come on! I get annoyed when people are telling others to spend money for no good reason, but I am LIVID that someone should be offering homespun advice on pain control. :-(There is a huge movement (in the USA in particular, but to a lesser extent here too) that is anti-drug for ANY pain relief, and it is a VERY DANGEROUS one.Get your facts straight, read about it, experience it, get personal advice. Don't listen to those who have an anti drug agenda, this is not street "Crack," this is medical treatment! What next, withdraw Insulin from Diabetics, what about all those drugs for Cancer sufferers?This is CHRONIC pain we are taking about here (TENS isn't something you are going to buy at the supermarket when you have banged your shins playing football!) Acute pain is another matter entirely and THAT is where pain serves a puprpose to prevent injury. Look at it another way - amputees with a limb MISSING still may get serious pain in the missing "limb" now is THAT there to prevent injury? Of coure not.Lack of pain control KILLS people, serious depression and suicide among chronic pains sufferers isn't something to be belittled, as that is an all too common result of badly managed chronic pain.



You can get annoyed all you want and be as LIVID as you want but you have no right to attack me and accusing me of giving "homespun advice" on pain control when all I did was share my own personal experience.

I don't have an anti-drug agenda, in fact I consume large amounts of codine-based pain killers (and suffer the usual side effects too) along with a battery of about 10 other medications a day - (along with the use of a TENS machine, massage, acupuncture, meditation, etc.)

I suffer pain in all areas of my body but I have found that if I use a TENS machine on my lower back (to mask the pain I get there) I tend to become less aware of the need for correct balance, posture and I forget I have a weak back and as a result, I tend to re-injure it. So the pain plays a function in that it stops me from re-injuring my back.

Actually, you're wrong and it's you who should get your facts straight! TENS machines can be quite useful for some acute pain (such as banging your shins and other sports injuries).

Also, I did not belittle the serious depression and suicide among chronic pains sufferers. I've benefited greatly from pain management courses (which have taught me to balance the chemical with the "alternatives").

And no, I don't advocate withdrawal of insulin from diabetics. As for cancer "sufferers" please note, Nihcaj, some of us prefer the term "survivors" and yes, following surgery I'm on my second course of chemo. What of it?:p

janaltus;6601586

I don't have an anti-drug agenda, i



I am very pleased to hear it. It didn't sound that way, but I am very pleased you have clarified that. You may or may not be aware of the level of anti pain medication campaigning on the Internet that goes on :-(

This thread isn't the medium to get into the "I'm more ill than you" list of conditions, it is surprising what that might reveal, and if that is the case I can go back 51 years with long lists of illnesses and conditions, but that doesn't have any relevance here; but I can be sure of one thing: Just because one thing works for one person does not mean it will work for others, as has been mentioned before the placebo effect is a common mechanism for ANY result in a drug or product, and I am certainly not immune from it myself, but that is again widening the issue away from the relevance to a money saving web site - so again I make the point that no-one will address, regardless of the functionality of TENS :

WHY buy a TENS machine when you can give one a full test, for free?

greyrider;6601530

Unless you are so well it has no effect for you.



Nice "snipe," very subtle!

I think you will find that ANY product device or drug has varied effects on people.
It most certainly dos not mean that because one or other doesn't work for one individual that that person is "putting it on."

nihcaj;6603237

so again I make the point that no-one will address, regardless of the … so again I make the point that no-one will address, regardless of the functionality of TENS :WHY buy a TENS machine when you can give one a full test, for free?



I had already addressed that point, when I wrote:
janaltus;6593850

I ... got to borrow a TENS machine from my local hospital's physiotherapy … I ... got to borrow a TENS machine from my local hospital's physiotherapy department (St Barts, London). I found it quite useful for masking pain and - when I told them - they said there was a charitable fund within the hospital (they didn't say which one) that would pay for a TENS machine for me; which was nice!



I see. nihcaj, that you go off-topic aplenty and also offer no apology for falsely accusing me of giving out homespun advice. How nice (not).

janaltus;6606750

I see. nihcaj, that you go off-topic aplenty and also offer no apology … I see. nihcaj, that you go off-topic aplenty and also offer no apology for falsely accusing me of giving out homespun advice. How nice (not).



Sorry, I don't consider an apology appropriate for one reason, your original post seemed, and still DOES seem to be as I originally read it. I accept now that is not your position, but your post without that later correction seems typical of many of the anti pain meds comments I have been reading on the Internet since about 1995! I would have happily apologised had I mis-read it before posting, but it still reads that way without taking into consideration your subsequent post which clarifies your position. Unfortunately like it or not, the way you came across wasn't something I found very nice either at the time, but I do accept everyone can come across different to the way they intended when committing things to writing.

I will say I am pleased that you have clarified your position, but I most definitely would not have posted any response at all in the first place if it had not seemed to be making an anti pain meds stance.

If I am going off topic, then others are further off topic, as it has become the off-topic melee that every single one of these threads develops into - as I see it, the topic is: Spend money on a TENS machine slected from a list, and my money saving advice is BORROW one and save the money before you do think of spending money as for me they do not work, while others say they do.If that is off topic, then every thread on this site is off topic!

Plenty of people are determined to drift further off topic and make it into a personal medical drama, or open it up to the field of the entire medical fiend & that has little to do with buying or not buying a TENS machine!
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