Hdmi to Hdmi Mini 1m cable  for a £1 at Poundland
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Hdmi to Hdmi Mini 1m cable for a £1 at Poundland

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Found 8th Sep 2013
Picked one of these up in Poundland today

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Lol X) I bought one of these from Poundland and it didn't work.

Save your money and buy good quality HDMI cables.

Here we go again ... Price does not equate to quality...this is fine

I fail to see how 1's and 0's can be transferred down a cable and come out better on some than others, isnt after all what a hdmi cable does?

dazza99

Here we go again ... Price does not equate to quality...this is fine



Yes it does.

mboora

Yes it does.



I would love to hear your made up story of why

jamieperryfleet

I fail to see how 1's and 0's can be transferred down a cable and come … I fail to see how 1's and 0's can be transferred down a cable and come out better on some than others, isnt after all what a hdmi cable does?



The modulation systems used on high bandwidth connections makes the signals that travel down the cable a bit more complex than simple 1's and 0's, and so it is possible that poorly made cables or ones that are out of spec may cause corruption to these signals and the data coming out of one end of the cable might not be identical to that which was put in the other.

For this reason most systems like this use error correction algorithms, and any corrupted data should get fixed before it gets used by the target system. However if the data is corrupted to an extent that the algorithms cannot correct, then you will still get errors.

The signals used in HDMI connections combined with the error correction used, make them pretty robust, and you are unlikely to get any difference in the data output between a £1 cable and a £50 cable. However the cables at the cheaper end of the market may suffer from poor quality control and you are more likely to get a bad cable that just doesn't work (hopefully these can be easily and simply exchanged for a good one).

But in this case I'd be more worried about the fragility of a cheap cable, as while a regular HDMI cable is likely to be connected up once and then spend the rest of it's days safely sitting untouched behind a TV set, a Mini HDMI cable is more likely to be repeatedly connected and disconnected from a tablet or phone and the extra wear and tear may cause cheap cables to fall apart or fail in a relatively short time.

The short length is an issue here. Once it's snaked around your TV and past the stand, you can't play a game or browse without being right in front of the TV. OK for watching a movie or music listening though.

Used nothing but poundland cables and never had any issues whatsoever with them.

I used one of these cables, it set the TV on fire, insulted the postman and spooked the dog.

Wait, no it was fine. Those poundland cables are just great, although I usually buy the 1.19 pound ones of ebay because they are longer!

Then saw that they sell the same thing for 19.99 in a shop. Blimy.

They had the 2 sizes in when I got a couple - mini and micro , check you are getting the one that fits your device.
They are a bit short - I'd recommend spending a bit more for a longer one , say 2-3 metres.

jamieperryfleet

I fail to see how 1's and 0's can be transferred down a cable and come … I fail to see how 1's and 0's can be transferred down a cable and come out better on some than others, isnt after all what a hdmi cable does?



Ahhh I love these cable quality arguments. I remember getting into an argument with a sales person at a well known high street electrical retailer when he told me I needed a £60 hdmi cable for 3d... something about bandwidth. Funny because I went home and plugged in a very old (purchased when PS3 first released) and cheap hdmi cable, did it work? Of course it did.

As you say, its binary data so providing those 1s or 0s do actually get there, there will be absolutely no difference in quality.

Whether or not that cheap cable will take as many 1s and 0s at the same time is possibly an arguable case but in my experience, cheap cables do the same job.

thezoidberg

As you say, its binary data so providing those 1s or 0s do actually get … As you say, its binary data so providing those 1s or 0s do actually get there, there will be absolutely no difference in quality.



Not true I'm afraid, you may be lucky and your equipment may work ok with it but the fact is some (usually the cheaper ones) can cause corrupted signals and result in corrupt/frozen display, or crash the equipment. You pays your money an takes your choice, I had a media player keep freezing with corrupt display, thought it was the box but then tried it with a better cable (one swapped from PS3) and it suddenly worked 100%.

Roger_Irrelevant

Not true I'm afraid, you may be lucky and your equipment may work ok with … Not true I'm afraid, you may be lucky and your equipment may work ok with it but the fact is some (usually the cheaper ones) can cause corrupted signals and result in corrupt/frozen display, or crash the equipment. You pays your money an takes your choice, I had a media player keep freezing with corrupt display, thought it was the box but then tried it with a better cable (one swapped from PS3) and it suddenly worked 100%.



I disagree, this might be bandwidth related but there is no corruption of binary data, it either gets there or it doesn't, if it gets there it is either a 1 or a 0, a high bit or low bit, on or off, you cannot corrupt that, it cannot be 0.5 or 1.2, it is either high or low, simples.

Your freeze is probably due to your media player putting out lots of 1s or 0s simultaneously, if your cable doesn't have the capacity to take them all they will be dropped which will result in what you see.

Unfortunately HDMI doesn't work like TCP afaik there is no re-transmission of lost packets.

Edit: I have never seen even the cheapest cables I own drop packets, perhaps to a degree that I do not notice but your cable must have been reeeeally cheap?



Edited by: "thezoidberg" 9th Sep 2013

thezoidberg

I disagree, this might be bandwidth related but there is no corruption of … I disagree, this might be bandwidth related but there is no corruption of binary data, it either gets there or it doesn't, if it gets there it is either a 1 or a 0, a high bit or low bit, on or off, you cannot corrupt that, it cannot be 0.5 or 1.2, it is either high or low, simples.



Oh Yes you can! Just because it is digital, doesn't mean it will not undergo any corruption between being sent and received. At the bitrates associated with HDMI there are any number of ways the signal can be affected. See

Signal Integrity

In particular the transition from 0 to 1 / 1 to 0 does not happen in an infinitesimally small amount of time, it will ramp up and down, overshoot (bounce) etc. These artifacts in the signal can be amplified by poor quality cables so the receiving equipment can't accurately say when a 0 turns to a 1 and vice versa.

Saying "digital can't be corrupted" is a bit like saying "A digital TV picture will always be perfect, since it's digital and cannot be corrupted".

Roger_Irrelevant

Oh Yes you can! Just because it is digital, doesn't mean it will not … Oh Yes you can! Just because it is digital, doesn't mean it will not undergo any corruption between being sent and received. At the bitrates associated with HDMI there are any number of ways the signal can be affected. SeeSignal IntegrityIn particular the transition from 0 to 1 / 1 to 0 does not happen in an infinitesimally small amount of time, it will ramp up and down, overshoot (bounce) etc. These artifacts in the signal can be amplified by poor quality cables so the receiving equipment can't accurately say when a 0 turns to a 1 and vice versa.Saying "digital can't be corrupted" is a bit like saying "A digital TV picture will always be perfect, since it's digital and cannot be corrupted".



Fair enough, I stand completely corrected on the technicalities of distortion/corruption of binary data transmitted over long distance at high bitrates. However, in this instance we are talking about a 1 meter cable, I find it impossible to believe that you would see degradation over such a short distance, even with the cheapest cables. As I said before, no problem running running high bitrates over one of the thinnest, cheapest cables I own.

Perhaps if I needed to run that signal over 50 meters but I just can't see it over the distance we are talking about. IMO what people experience is bandwidth issues and even then I have never experienced such a thing personally.

IMO expensive cables are just a con, HDMI is a standard defined by some big players to ensure cross compatibility between devices, for even a cheap cable to be HDMI compliant it must follow the standard and nowhere in that standard (afaik) does it state you need gold plated connectors, heaps of mylar shielding and ultra pure copper terminals yadda yadda, all the stuff you (over)pay for. Why is this not in the standard? Because the lack of such features does not affect the ability of HDMI to work reliably, oItherwise it would be in the standard and there would be no cheapie cables.

I used to know someone who worked for an electrical retailer, to sell their "Monster" cables (although analogue back then), they would run their store TVs through booster after booster after booster to amplify noise to the point that when they plugged in a monster cable (without any boosters!) there was a noticeable difference for the customer to see. They were hugely expensive and I was given some for free, on my set, to my eyes there was not a jot of difference for the exorbitantly inflated prices they charge.

Personally, I think people buy into marketing hype... I'll stick with £1 cables until such a day that signal integrity is a problem and given that i've been using the cheapest cables I could get since HDMI fist hit the shelves, I think I'll be using them for a while yet.

Got one of these, worked perfectly well connecting my Playbook to the TV.

CuddlesTC

Got one of these, worked perfectly well connecting my Playbook to the TV.



You, me and many others. I think this is one of those never ending debates but the bottom line is, this cable costs £1, what have you got to lose? £1

IMO, the vast majority, if not everybody that buys this cable will have no problems and will have saved themselves a few quid, now that's a hot deal

Yeah stop moaning. It's only a pound. If it don't work then bin it.

busbyboys

Yeah stop moaning. It's only a pound. If it don't work then bin it.



Indeed, it either will or wont work.

Here are some testing results that all come to the same ultimate conclusion...

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57321956-221/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same-part-2/
http://www.which.co.uk/technology/tv-and-dvd/reviews-ns/hdmi-and-scart-leads/how-we-test/
http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/gadget-show/videos/news/hdmi-cable-test
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/10056547

Go get yer £1 cables people! On the other hand, if you want to throw money down the drain on hugely overpriced cables that's your prerogative of course.

Dr_Eric_Chowanietz

"You wouldn't buy a more expensive printer cable and expect to print … "You wouldn't buy a more expensive printer cable and expect to print higher quality documents."




Edited by: "thezoidberg" 9th Sep 2013

much the same on ebay

*Sigh*

Whilst there is a small possibility of transmission loss, it is just that: small. Made even so much infinitely smaller by the fact that the specification requires parity bits so as to prevent this.

In spite of that these cables are crap. I'd be more concerned about the durability of your cable, rather than whether (to quote an earlier post) "0 and 1s get to the other end". The durability of these is naff. Often poor quality cable which causes internal stressing and breakage at the termination point of the cable. One of the cables I bought from here lasted all of 5minutes before breaking down.

Lesson in life:

Don't buy into the marketing and spend £50+ on a cable.
On the other side, don't think that cheaper than cheap will do.

Buy something a bit dearer: £4-10 (depending on length) will do just fine.

Oh, and remember: Gold plated connectors make the 3D effect waaaay better (due to enhanced depth of field nano particles)

Don't buy this! Always buy Monster cables instead ...

/runs away giggling like a girl
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