He-400i: Sold by HIFIMAN UK and Fulfilled by Amazon for £180
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He-400i: Sold by HIFIMAN UK and Fulfilled by Amazon for £180

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Found 19th Sep 2017
HIFIMAN HE400i Over Ear Full-Size Plannar Magnetic Headphone
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heatheatheat
Nice cans, great price.
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FloptimusPrime13 m ago

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LotusJas11 m ago

Nice cans, great price.


Are these worth the buy? I currently have a pair of akg 712's and think they sound slightly flat and lifeless, how do these compare?
Mark72730 m ago

Are these worth the buy? I currently have a pair of akg 712's and think …Are these worth the buy? I currently have a pair of akg 712's and think they sound slightly flat and lifeless, how do these compare?



It's down to personal choice. Everybody's hearing is unique as are their requirements of a set of headphones and the music they listen to. I have a pair that I use in conjunction with a Little Dot MK II headphone amplifier and to me they sound good for jazz, acoustic and classical music. If you want to find out more I'd try some of the audio sites such as head-fi.org or headfonia.com and just search the sites for reviews.
hotukdeals.com/dea…397


Posted it a while back. Comes in and out of stock often.
Mark72732 m ago

Are these worth the buy? I currently have a pair of akg 712's and think …Are these worth the buy? I currently have a pair of akg 712's and think they sound slightly flat and lifeless, how do these compare?




These don't have much bass. Quite sibilant too. And narrow soundstage. I wouldn't recommend them if you find the 712's flat. Probably aim for V shaped sound, like the Fidelio X2.
Edited by: "rev6" 19th Sep 2017
The older 400 with different pads might have had a little less bass but these have adequate bass and aren't sibilant.
smr111 h, 11 m ago

The older 400 with different pads might have had a little less bass but …The older 400 with different pads might have had a little less bass but these have adequate bass and aren't sibilant.




Each their own. I sent these back due to what I said earlier.
rev619th Sep

These don't have much bass. Quite sibilant too. And narrow soundstage. I …These don't have much bass. Quite sibilant too. And narrow soundstage. I wouldn't recommend them if you find the 712's flat. Probably aim for V shaped sound, like the Fidelio X2.


I have no idea why anyone would want a V shape frequency response. Why would you want the mids supressed?
Great price though OP. Heat added.
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barbiegirl1 h, 11 m ago

I have no idea why anyone would want a V shape frequency response. Why …I have no idea why anyone would want a V shape frequency response. Why would you want the mids supressed?


I'm not sure if the fidelio x2s are v-shaped but as I've said I find my 712 pros fairly boring and bland. Maybe more low end and high end sounds more exciting.
Mark7278 m ago

I'm not sure if the fidelio x2s are v-shaped but as I've said I find my …I'm not sure if the fidelio x2s are v-shaped but as I've said I find my 712 pros fairly boring and bland. Maybe more low end and high end sounds more exciting.


I had AKG 712 - they have amazing detail, soundstage and airiness but they do indeed lack a bit of slam. Brilliant for classical and jazz / string music; tiring for rock.

Try PSB M4U2....or Sony MDR-1000X. Pricey but well worth it IMO. Cheers. Bon weekend.
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barbiegirl13 m ago

I had AKG 712 - they have amazing detail, soundstage and airiness but they …I had AKG 712 - they have amazing detail, soundstage and airiness but they do indeed lack a bit of slam. Brilliant for classical and jazz / string music; tiring for rock.Try PSB M4U2....or Sony MDR-1000X. Pricey but well worth it IMO. Cheers. Bon weekend.


That's exactly how I feel, they are very airy and have an excellent soundstage and have great clarity, but for me I think they just aren't that engaging, I've been recommended some of the beyers and the Fidelio x2s. Do you have any other recommendations excluding the ones you provided?
Mark72739 m ago

That's exactly how I feel, they are very airy and have an excellent …That's exactly how I feel, they are very airy and have an excellent soundstage and have great clarity, but for me I think they just aren't that engaging, I've been recommended some of the beyers and the Fidelio x2s. Do you have any other recommendations excluding the ones you provided?


Hi Mark. Well, I've been through an awful lot of headphones in my time. It is very subjective. Beyer Dyanmic have their own sound signature, but I would say it's very neutral, not unlike AKG701. I've had DT770 and DT990. Enjoyed them but ultimately sold them on. If you're thinking more £1xx than £2xx or £3xx, have you demoed any Audio Technica stuff? I also had a pair of KRS KNK 8400. Those are quite an interesting sound. Senn 600 and 650 are good but pricey unless you seek out used pairs. Good luck in your quest.
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barbiegirl3 h, 4 m ago

Hi Mark. Well, I've been through an awful lot of headphones in my time. It …Hi Mark. Well, I've been through an awful lot of headphones in my time. It is very subjective. Beyer Dyanmic have their own sound signature, but I would say it's very neutral, not unlike AKG701. I've had DT770 and DT990. Enjoyed them but ultimately sold them on. If you're thinking more £1xx than £2xx or £3xx, have you demoed any Audio Technica stuff? I also had a pair of KRS KNK 8400. Those are quite an interesting sound. Senn 600 and 650 are good but pricey unless you seek out used pairs. Good luck in your quest.


Honestly I'd be will to spend £2xx if the headphone is truly worth it. I've been recommended everything from Sony to the classic sennheiser 600/650. But I'm unable to really demo many headphones and everyone seems to have a different opinion on absolutely every headphone. I just want something that isn't as boring as my 712 pros but at the same time nothing to over the top. It's a tough choice. 🤔
barbiegirl6 h, 18 m ago

I have no idea why anyone would want a V shape frequency response. Why …I have no idea why anyone would want a V shape frequency response. Why would you want the mids supressed?


I feel the same when headphones lack bass. Why would you want bass suppressed?
barbiegirl22nd Sep

Hi Mark. Well, I've been through an awful lot of headphones in my time. It …Hi Mark. Well, I've been through an awful lot of headphones in my time. It is very subjective. Beyer Dyanmic have their own sound signature, but I would say it's very neutral, not unlike AKG701. I've had DT770 and DT990. Enjoyed them but ultimately sold them on. If you're thinking more £1xx than £2xx or £3xx, have you demoed any Audio Technica stuff? I also had a pair of KRS KNK 8400. Those are quite an interesting sound. Senn 600 and 650 are good but pricey unless you seek out used pairs. Good luck in your quest.


You didn't find the Beyer to be a little on the bass heavy side of neutral? Maybe it depends on which impedance model you buy?
Nearly all the AKGs I've had have been a bit light in the bass department, and this is from someone who likes etymotic er4, except the 181 which went too far the other way for me.
rev622nd Sep

I feel the same when headphones lack bass. Why would you want bass …I feel the same when headphones lack bass. Why would you want bass suppressed?


Well you wouldn't. But equally, you don't want muddy or lumpy bass that bleeds into other sections of the spectrum. Bass carries the tune from a rhythmic perspective but if you listen to something like Beats, the bass just bleeds. It needs to be fast with attack and good decay. I love bass, but I don't love it when it masks lower mids etc
Mark72722nd Sep

H Honestly I'd be will to spend £2xx if the headphone is truly worth it. …H Honestly I'd be will to spend £2xx if the headphone is truly worth it. I've been recommended everything from Sony to the classic sennheiser 600/650. But I'm unable to really demo many headphones and everyone seems to have a different opinion on absolutely every headphone. I just want something that isn't as boring as my 712 pros but at the same time nothing to over the top. It's a tough choice. 🤔



I bought the he 400i and I totally agree with rev6's asessment of them. They lack a bit of bass. I prefer the sennheiser 600 although even that one is not perfect as they are a little polite sounding. But they are the best ones so far. Also tried the sennheiser 700 and they were so boring. And tried the Philips x2. Those ones are for bassheads. Far too much bass that bleeds into the mids. But they do sound exciting so definitely not boring those ones. You should be happy with sennheiser 600.
barbiegirl4 h, 8 m ago

Well you wouldn't. But equally, you don't want muddy or lumpy bass that …Well you wouldn't. But equally, you don't want muddy or lumpy bass that bleeds into other sections of the spectrum. Bass carries the tune from a rhythmic perspective but if you listen to something like Beats, the bass just bleeds. It needs to be fast with attack and good decay. I love bass, but I don't love it when it masks lower mids etc




Have you listened to the 400i's?
rev61 h, 3 m ago

Have you listened to the 400i's?


No. I'm desperately trying NOT to spend any more money on headphones. I am however, really curious to hear planar magnetic as I have never heard them or owned a set. I have loosely read that the Monoprice 560 are worth a shot.

Now stop drawing me in!!!
barbiegirl11 m ago

No. I'm desperately trying NOT to spend any more money on headphones. I am …No. I'm desperately trying NOT to spend any more money on headphones. I am however, really curious to hear planar magnetic as I have never heard them or owned a set. I have loosely read that the Monoprice 560 are worth a shot.Now stop drawing me in!!!


I can honestly draw you out. I was in the same boat. Lured by Planaar but wasn't impressed. They are very comfortable which I didn't expect. I found them too analytical and not very enjoyable. I am also tempted by Monoprice's offerings... The 1060's are out of budget but the 560's look good.
rev616 h, 49 m ago

I can honestly draw you out. I was in the same boat. Lured by Planaar but …I can honestly draw you out. I was in the same boat. Lured by Planaar but wasn't impressed. They are very comfortable which I didn't expect. I found them too analytical and not very enjoyable. I am also tempted by Monoprice's offerings... The 1060's are out of budget but the 560's look good.


Do you live in London?
rev616 h, 51 m ago

I can honestly draw you out. I was in the same boat. Lured by Planaar but …I can honestly draw you out. I was in the same boat. Lured by Planaar but wasn't impressed. They are very comfortable which I didn't expect. I found them too analytical and not very enjoyable. I am also tempted by Monoprice's offerings... The 1060's are out of budget but the 560's look good.


I'm not sure I have an issue with analytical; do you mean cold, uninvolving, never found your feet tapping to the music, didn't want to sing along - that kinda thing?
barbiegirl20 m ago

I'm not sure I have an issue with analytical; do you mean cold, …I'm not sure I have an issue with analytical; do you mean cold, uninvolving, never found your feet tapping to the music, didn't want to sing along - that kinda thing?




Sort of. It didn't make my music sound enjoyable. I compared them directly to the AKG K240's with velour pads. Very similar characteristics. Only slightly brighter and more detailed in the top end. Bass was similar in quantity. Honestly can't say the quality was all that different.
Also the imaging felt off. Very much left right. Not as much in between compared to what I'm used to.

I think finding the signature you prefer is most important. Next I want to try the HD650's.
Edited by: "rev6" 26th Sep 2017
barbiegirl19 m ago

Do you live in London?




I don't no.
rev61 h, 48 m ago

Sort of. It didn't make my music sound enjoyable. I compared them directly …Sort of. It didn't make my music sound enjoyable. I compared them directly to the AKG K240's with velour pads. Very similar characteristics. Only slightly brighter and more detailed in the top end. Bass was similar in quantity. Honestly can't say the quality was all that different.Also the imaging felt off. Very much left right. Not as much in between compared to what I'm used to.I think finding the signature you prefer is most important. Next I want to try the HD650's.


Had SennHD650. They were good but not great, but then I'm not a Sennheiser fan really. Good phones I know, but not my kinda sound. Did you ever try Grado? They might be what you're looking for. As a London commuter though, now I've gone wireless, I can't imagine going back. Sony's MDR1000X are extraordinary but they're £300 so they should be. All the best to you.
rev619th Sep

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hifiman-he400i-over-ear-full-size-plannar-magnetic-headphone-180-sold-by-hifiman-uk-and-fulfilled-by-amazon-2788397Posted it a while back. Comes in and out of stock often.


Been after these for a while while. Never seen them drop in price on Amazon UK and frequently see them go on deals at Amazon.com

Looks like it's only recently they've dropped below £300

uk.camelcamelcamel.com/HIF…GF4

Gutted I've missed them.
OFI2 h, 57 m ago

Been after these for a while while. Never seen them drop in price on …Been after these for a while while. Never seen them drop in price on Amazon UK and frequently see them go on deals at Amazon.comLooks like it's only recently they've dropped below £300https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/HIFIMAN-HE400i-Full-Size-Magnetic-Headphone/product/B00NTPNGF4Gutted I've missed them.




Keep an eye out. They'll probably come back in stock.
barbiegirl25th Sep

No. I'm desperately trying NOT to spend any more money on headphones. I am …No. I'm desperately trying NOT to spend any more money on headphones. I am however, really curious to hear planar magnetic as I have never heard them or owned a set. I have loosely read that the Monoprice 560 are worth a shot.Now stop drawing me in!!!


I've heard the monoprice 560 are even lighter in the bass department and rougher in the treble. A lot of poorer reports on headfi. I guess the much smaller drivers (56mm)in the 560 compared to the 1060 (106mm?) would give them less bass. The wooden ring on the 1060 has been reported cracking by a number of people which makes me steer away from them.

I might buy their in ear planar to compare to my isine when they finally become available. Just checked again and they are available from monoprice so just have to wait for them to appear on Amazon uk or ebay now.
Edited by: "smr1" 29th Sep 2017
smr16 m ago

I've heard the monoprice 560 are even lighter in the bass department and …I've heard the monoprice 560 are even lighter in the bass department and rougher in the treble. A lot of poorer reports on headfi. I guess the much smaller drivers (56mm)in the 560 compared to the 1060 (106mm?) would give them less bass. The wooden ring on the 1060 has been reported cracking by a number of people which makes me steer away from them.I might buy their in ear planar to compare to my isine when they finally become available. Just checked again and they are available from monoprice so just have to wait for them to appear on Amazon uk or ebay now.




The M300's do look really good. Waiting for some good reviews.
OFI27th Sep

Been after these for a while while. Never seen them drop in price on …Been after these for a while while. Never seen them drop in price on Amazon UK and frequently see them go on deals at Amazon.comLooks like it's only recently they've dropped below £300https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/HIFIMAN-HE400i-Full-Size-Magnetic-Headphone/product/B00NTPNGF4Gutted I've missed them.




1 in stock at £180!

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Edited by: "rev6" 29th Sep 2017
rev66 h, 3 m ago

1 in stock at £180![Image]


Gone. Bitter sweet about that...
6 more in stock this morning. I took the plunge...
Well, I'm absolutely loving them. 100+ hours of burn in and they sound sweet as can be. Amazing detail, layering and separation. Really tuneful melodic bass too. Very happy at £180.
barbiegirl10th Oct

Well, I'm absolutely loving them. 100+ hours of burn in and they sound …Well, I'm absolutely loving them. 100+ hours of burn in and they sound sweet as can be. Amazing detail, layering and separation. Really tuneful melodic bass too. Very happy at £180.


Good to hear i just ordered a pair myself but after reading these comments i was getting worried
loadsavmoney11 h, 25 m ago

Good to hear i just ordered a pair myself but after reading these …Good to hear i just ordered a pair myself but after reading these comments i was getting worried


Well it's all very subjective, but I've owned a lot of different cans and I think these are excellent open backed phones. If they can still dig detail out of tracks I've been listening to for 30 years, with good quality cans along the way, they must be doing something right. I hope you enjoy yours. They definitely do benefit from burning in with the manufacturer suggesting 150 hours! Post back and let us know?
barbiegirl2 h, 4 m ago

Well it's all very subjective, but I've owned a lot of different cans and …Well it's all very subjective, but I've owned a lot of different cans and I think these are excellent open backed phones. If they can still dig detail out of tracks I've been listening to for 30 years, with good quality cans along the way, they must be doing something right. I hope you enjoy yours. They definitely do benefit from burning in with the manufacturer suggesting 150 hours! Post back and let us know?


Thanks, i'm no audiophile though (well, not yet ) and i wont be using a dedicated amp/ DAC but i might report back
I bought them mainly for late night films so i don't wake the neighbours, i'll use them for music too
Edited by: "loadsavmoney" 13th Oct 2017
loadsavmoney1 h, 6 m ago

Thanks, i'm no audiophile though (well, not yet ) and i wont be using …Thanks, i'm no audiophile though (well, not yet ) and i wont be using a dedicated amp/ DAC but i might report backI bought them mainly for late night films so i don't wake the neighbours, i'll use them for music too


Ah, this is how it starts mate.....I've tried them on my Samsung S8 and they still sound pretty good. A dedicated DAC and Headphone Amp takes it all up a level. You don't need to spend a fortune to make the leap. £150-£200 will bring a quantum leap in quality. Have a good weekend. Barbs
barbiegirl8 h, 27 m ago

Ah, this is how it starts mate.....I've tried them on my Samsung S8 and …Ah, this is how it starts mate.....I've tried them on my Samsung S8 and they still sound pretty good. A dedicated DAC and Headphone Amp takes it all up a level. You don't need to spend a fortune to make the leap. £150-£200 will bring a quantum leap in quality. Have a good weekend. Barbs


Thanks, i'll be using a AV receiver so it should hopefully come closer to DAC/ amp quality
You too (have good weekend)
Edited by: "loadsavmoney" 13th Oct 2017
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