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Heinz Organic Ketchup 1015g £2 at Heron Foods (Darlaston)
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Heinz Organic Ketchup 1015g £2 at Heron Foods (Darlaston)

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Posted 12th JunAvailable: West Midlands (Birmingham)
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Organic……so like with real tomatoes and stuff?
kidrock12312/06/2020 14:14

Organic……so like with real tomatoes and stuff?


It has a higher tomato content than the standard ketchup. Tastes much better whether organic appeals or not.
Evil_Dan12/06/2020 16:13

It has a higher tomato content than the standard ketchup. Tastes much …It has a higher tomato content than the standard ketchup. Tastes much better whether organic appeals or not.


I'm not sure what you're refering to and what you are saying are the same thing. I assume you are working from the amount of tomatoes by weight that are used to make the product, which is higher in the organic product, however the tomatoes are processed to remove water content (otherwise you'd have extremely watery sauce) and different varieties of tomato have different water content etc. Based on figures I'd expect the organic probably does have a higher tomato content, but it also appears it has a higher sugar content so it's hard to say how much.
N1AK12/06/2020 17:02

I'm not sure what you're refering to and what you are saying are the same …I'm not sure what you're refering to and what you are saying are the same thing. I assume you are working from the amount of tomatoes by weight that are used to make the product, which is higher in the organic product, however the tomatoes are processed to remove water content (otherwise you'd have extremely watery sauce) and different varieties of tomato have different water content etc. Based on figures I'd expect the organic probably does have a higher tomato content, but it also appears it has a higher sugar content so it's hard to say how much.


About 180g of tomatoes in 100mls of organic vs about 150g in 100mls of standard Heinz ketchup. So 20% more tomatoes and about 2% more sugar by weight. Processing involves evaporating off excess water so the organic has a higher concentration of tomato to the standard ketchup. It clearly tastes more of tomato and I suspect the organic needs more sugar as a result to stop it being too tart. I know which one I prefer and obviously (to me) has a higher tomato content.
Evil_Dan12/06/2020 17:22

About 180g of tomatoes in 100mls of organic vs about 150g in 100mls of …About 180g of tomatoes in 100mls of organic vs about 150g in 100mls of standard Heinz ketchup. So 20% more tomatoes and about 2% more sugar by weight. Processing involves evaporating off excess water so the organic has a higher concentration of tomato to the standard ketchup. It clearly tastes more of tomato and I suspect the organic needs more sugar as a result to stop it being too tart. I know which one I prefer and obviously (to me) has a higher tomato content.



There isn't 170g of tomatoes in 100mls of Organic, which is my point, as 100mls of the organic product doesn't weigh 170g+. More tomatoes were used to produce it but if the variety used had a higher water content then the percentage of the end product that is tomato doesn't increase in line with the gross weight of the tomatoes. A pretty good hint that your logic is flawed is that there isn't enough other stuff in the product to allow the sugar content to increase, and for the the tomato content to increase by that amount. You're welcome to like whichever product you want, but it doesn't mean that your logic about weights or concentrations is correct.
N1AK12/06/2020 19:59

There isn't 170g of tomatoes in 100mls of Organic, which is my point, as …There isn't 170g of tomatoes in 100mls of Organic, which is my point, as 100mls of the organic product doesn't weigh 170g+. More tomatoes were used to produce it but if the variety used had a higher water content then the percentage of the end product that is tomato doesn't increase in line with the gross weight of the tomatoes. A pretty good hint that your logic is flawed is that there isn't enough other stuff in the product to allow the sugar content to increase, and for the the tomato content to increase by that amount. You're welcome to like whichever product you want, but it doesn't mean that your logic about weights or concentrations is correct.


I'm confused as to why you think they are using special "extra water" tomatoes for the organic. 180g of tomatoes reduced to 100mls by water evaporation is going to be more concentrated in tomato content then 150g of tomatoes reduced to 100mls in the same way. They have had to remove more water during production from the tomatoes in the organic sauce hence it should be more concentrated. The weight of tomatoes used to make the product has no bearing on the final weight, sugar %, etc. If these things are added once the tomato has been reduced.
Edited by: "Evil_Dan" 12th Jun
Evil_Dan12/06/2020 20:04

I'm confused as to why you think they are using special "extra water" …I'm confused as to why you think they are using special "extra water" tomatoes for the organic. 180g of tomatoes reduced to 100mls by water evaporation is going to be more concentrated in tomato content then 150g of tomatoes reduced to 100mls in the same way. They have had to remove more water during production from the tomatoes in the organic sauce hence it should be more concentrated. The weight of tomatoes used to make the product has no bearing on the final weight, sugar %, etc. If these things are added once the tomato has been reduced.


I didn't say they were, I said you were making an assumption that may or may not be true. You said in your first post that it had a higher tomato content, that is only true if tomato makes up more of the product weight which you don't know it does. Now you're saying that it is more concentrated, but that may only account for some of the difference, and is meaningless without knowing what the product was like before concentration. Why would I expect that the organic tomato might be more watery? Because I actually know something about food production, and there's no reason for them to considerably increase the gross weight of tomato going into the product unless for example:
1) The tomato has less flavour or a higher water content meaning it needs to be more concentrated
2) That the tomato variety has a different flavour profile, like for example a more acidic edge which means they wanted to decrease the vinegar content
3) That they are considering moving the core product to a more umami taste profile and are using this as a test
4) That the organic tomatoes have more quality issues leading to a greater loss in production (unlikely as the claim could be challenged as misleading)

There's no reason the tomato content had to increase just because the product is organic, and food scientists don't just up the use of expensive ingredients in recipes for fun; if there's a difference in the recipe then there's a reason and if they're increasing the tomatos consumed by that much then an obvious reason is that the tomato isn't providing as much flavour per unit weight fresh.
Edited by: "N1AK" 12th Jun
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