Help NHS Nurses get their song to number one and beat Justin Beiber. 79p at Amazon
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Help NHS Nurses get their song to number one and beat Justin Beiber. 79p at Amazon

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Found 22nd Dec 2015
NHS Nurses singing a song for Christmas and they're in competition with Justin Bieber. Its really close and every purchase counts. Shows our nurses our support this Christmas
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Edited by: "tafkas" 23rd Dec 2015
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nurses wanna bear bieber ? i bet they do (_;)
Edited by: "taiko" 22nd Dec 2015
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tafkas

Standard price, not a deal, move to Misc please.


Its 99p on itunes.
my son recently had an operation and honestly, the nurses on duty at that point were a joke. Ridiculous patient care. some put their heart & soul into their job, others need a swift kick out the door.
The Government pay them peanuts, and as the saying goes, 'You pay peanuts, you get...'

All public services are going to the wall because of this Government. The local Primary School to me had a teacher leave to move to another profession and didn't have a single applicant for the vacancy. Things about about to crash big time.

Oh, and it's a good price if you want to buy the song, so voted hot.
don't think need to worry about bieber what about x factor winner?
Also vote for antiwar song War Pigs by Black Sabbath please.
Tell my man Shut Up

#voteStormzy4XmasNo1
Nurses and docs are fine. It's the admin and management really that and blowing our cash.
Is there any valid reason to get this to number one? Just to stop someone else being at number one seems pretty pointless.
Vanderlust

Nurses and docs are fine. It's the admin and management really that and … Nurses and docs are fine. It's the admin and management really that and blowing our cash.



No, unfortunately it's across the board.

But essentially the NHS needs to be a public institution, but run with a private mentality. The current set up makes it nigh on impossible to get rid of lazy and/or incompetent people who join the NHS for an easy life.
Vanderlust

Nurses and docs are fine. It's the admin and management really that and … Nurses and docs are fine. It's the admin and management really that and blowing our cash.


Consultants also, the 3 of them are paid well more than the EU average, just like all most government employees, we cant afford our services because they are mostly overpaid, these services crossed a line between charity, public service and overpaid.

My nhs trust employees 18 year olds to hand cups of tea out etc under the tile 'health care assistant' at £8.50ph, yet child poverty is this area is one of the highest. Why not minimum wage and make single parents do 16 hours for tax credits and save my nhs trust a fortune. If they young overpaid actually went into a nursing home job they would know what a health care assistant job is and on minimum wage.


The police are overpaid in comparison to Fire service, who risk their own life not on the odd call out but most.


Public service is a mess, and the Tories and Labour set that standard over a long period. Politics need to be removed from public service and run like a company, not for profit of course, make a chief exec accountable not a party.
bankerscum

Cheap houses too under so-called key worker schemes.Some pigs are more … Cheap houses too under so-called key worker schemes.Some pigs are more equal than other pigs. Buy Bieber and get to number 1.



Yeah really cheap when you're on £23k. bargain.
I would vote for a dog barking merry Christmas rather than J.B being no 1 and being part of all the Christmas programmes for the next 10 years
Vanderlust

Nurses and docs are fine. It's the admin and management really that and … Nurses and docs are fine. It's the admin and management really that and blowing our cash.


Technically it's the government and NHS England who blow the cash with ridiculous demands and a system that is incredibly poorly conceived. Let me explain, because anyone who makes a statement such as yours doesn't understand the NHS, I'm not having a pop at you, to be fair very few people do. It's incredibly complex. Here's a super brief explanation.

NHS organisations are run independently from each other, there is very little help given between your local GP practice and your local hospital or your local rehab centre. If one gets into financial trouble? Hard cheese for them - that's the way the government wants it.

Hospitals are paid on the number of people they get through the door for most things, thus there is no incentive for them to help with preventative care because they want that money. Hospitals will make a profit on the easy things like the odd broken leg, but on complex care they'll be paid far less than it costs to treat - that's why private companies coming in and doing the profitable bit is bad, because then the complex care provider (e.g. your local hospital) is financially stuffed.

So who pays Hospitals? The answer is CCGs. They aim to keep people out of hospital and healthy, favoring treatment in the community (as it's much cheaper). Because treatment in the community is so cheap they can barter down the prices hospitals want for each broken leg (for example), to the point where hospitals struggle. Conversely when CCGs do this and make some savings, it gives them more money to spend on preventative care, and to do that they use evidence and stats on where to focus to get best value (you need admin for that bit). CCGs aren't saints though, oh no, the Tories wanted them to be GP led, but GPs as many people will know are mercenaries really, and if they can make a quick buck here and there they will and they do. The other aspect to CCGs is that they, along with Hospitals, Mental Health Trusts and Community Trusts are all told by NHS England what to do, and NHS England are not very good at putting coherent plans together, because they have to interpret the frankly bizarre ideas from our Health Secretary.

So, who's blowing all the cash? Well it's somewhere between the Health Secretary and the top 50 staff or so at NHS England. Pretty much everyone else downwards is simple a pawn in their game, many of the admin and management staff that we have in the NHS are simply there to try and make the plans from NHS England work - and when that plan is often ****? There's not much that can be done to fix it when troops are on the ground and the commander isn't listening and doesn't want to know.
Edited by: "Scorpion" 24th Dec 2015
Scorpion

Technically it's the government and NHS England who blow with ridiculous … Technically it's the government and NHS England who blow with ridiculous demands and a system that is incredibly poorly conceived. Let me explain, because anyone who makes a statement such as yours doesn't understand the NHS, I'm not having a pop at you, to be fair very few people do. It's incredibly complex. Here's a super brief explanation. NHS organisations are run independently from each other, there is very little help given between your local GP practice and your local hospital or your local rehab centre. If one gets into financial trouble? Hard cheese for them - that's the way the government wants it. Hospitals are paid on the number of people they get through the door for most things, thus there is no incentive for them to help with preventative care because they want that money. Hospitals will make a profit on the easy things like the odd broken leg, but on complex care they'll be paid far less than it costs to treat - that's why private companies coming in and doing the profitable bit is bad, because then the complex care provider (e.g. your local hospital) is financially stuffed. So who pays Hospitals? The answer is CCGs. They aim to keep people out of hospital and healthy, favoring treatment in the community (as it's much cheaper). Because treatment in the community is so cheap they can barter down the prices hospitals want for each broken leg (for example), to the point where hospitals struggle. Conversely when CCGs do this and make some savings, it gives them more money to spend on preventative care, and to do that they use evidence and stats on where to focus to get best value (you need admin for that bit). CCGs aren't saints though, oh no, the Tories wanted them to be GP led, but GPs as many people will know are mercenaries really, and if they can make a quick buck here and there they will and they do. The other aspect to CCGs is that they, along with Hospitals, Mental Health Trusts and Community Trusts are all told by NHS England what to do, and NHS England are not very good at putting coherent plans together, because they have to interpret the frankly bizarre ideas from our Health Secretary.So, who's blowing all the cash? Well it's somewhere between the Health Secretary and the top 50 staff or so at NHS England. Pretty much everyone else downwards is simple a pawn in their game, many of the admin and management staff that we have in the NHS are simply there to try and make the plans from NHS England work - and when that plan is often ****? There's not much that can be done to fix it when troops are on the ground and the commander isn't listening and doesn't want to know.



Oh I made my comment about admin and management because the missus worked for the NHS in Edinburgh before she switched careers and it really was a shambles. Basic tasks that should be carried out efficiently by any average person would drag on for months and the staff wouldn't care. We're talking about admin staff who'd been there for decades and really had no interest in the job. Any attempt at getting a result quicker would be seen as pushy and met with hostility. Management wouldn't touch productivity issues for fear of a fall out and the admin really were secure in their jobs. Being fired/replaced isn't even on the cards. I get what you mean about the structure of the NHS, and my comment wasn't really aimed at wider spending issues, which you're right I know little about, but the inefficiency of the admin and management, from experience in our area is a significant contributor to the waste of tax.

Scant on details there because it would take an essay to cover what was actually going on, but compare the attitudes to where she works now in finance, where very complex issues are handled in hours, issues that you have no clue about because you haven't seen them before and have no training, yet you have to work them out as they arise. The pressure is on and things get done, quickly. They have to, or you lose clients.
if the nurses in the care homes I work at recorded a song it would be in Polish or Romanian
My experiences, and my family's, of hospital and nurses has been repeatedly awful .. And the number of people killed, needlessly dying or abused each year is in the many thousands .... Most people see them as untouchable angels but not me ...
Bieber, is that a word?
There are some nurses who are really dedicated to their work. You might find few terrible ones that are only in it for the money but overall I applaud them for the fine work they.
Magurdrac

No, unfortunately it's across the board. But essentially the NHS needs to … No, unfortunately it's across the board. But essentially the NHS needs to be a public institution, but run with a private mentality. The current set up makes it nigh on impossible to get rid of lazy and/or incompetent people who join the NHS for an easy life.



​I agree with to a certain extent, however for that too happen a drastic pay increase is required.
Nurses are wonderful people, hard working and very dedicated. Will happily pay for Mr Bieber to stop singing.
I trained to be a nurse and most I encountered were diligent, caring and hard working. The few I met who seemed not to Care had been in the NHS for years and honestly I think they'd been burnt out. Compassion fatigue or something. Front line nursing staff are being cut all the time so less people are doing more work and becoming increasingly frustrated at not being able to give more care. That eats away over the years and one method for dealing with it is to just stop caring. How can I be certain of this? There were 400 student nurses in my year. I met a few that couldn't care for a hamster and they dropped out in the first year. I'm sure a few remained but the majority of students were keen to learn and not afraid of hard work. So something happens to those super-keen and caring student nurses turn them into cold and uncaring dead weights.
When you have a 'company' that employs 1 million people. There will be all manner of people in there. From Angels to down right colostomy bags.

From an outsider, the disjointed approach of multiple Trusts and lack of a centralised purchase/admin team costs the biggest waste.
If the NHS had its own 'Amazon' and purchasing team they'd probably be all wondering where to spend the surplus every year.
seaniboy

Consultants also, the 3 of them are paid well more than the EU average, … Consultants also, the 3 of them are paid well more than the EU average, just like all most government employees, we cant afford our services because they are mostly overpaid, these services crossed a line between charity, public service and overpaid. My nhs trust employees 18 year olds to hand cups of tea out etc under the tile 'health care assistant' at £8.50ph, yet child poverty is this area is one of the highest. Why not minimum wage and make single parents do 16 hours for tax credits and save my nhs trust a fortune. If they young overpaid actually went into a nursing home job they would know what a health care assistant job is and on minimum wage. The police are overpaid in comparison to Fire service, who risk their own life not on the odd call out but most.Public service is a mess, and the Tories and Labour set that standard over a long period. Politics need to be removed from public service and run like a company, not for profit of course, make a chief exec accountable not a party.



​I think that you are making a sweeping statement regarding pay for police officers and fire fighters. You will find that fire fighters get paid enough considering how many hours they actually work, considering sleeping duty and numerous days off shift pattern. Police officers get a respectable wage that rises throughout their career. PCSO who have no legal powers should be scrapped as some of them earn as much as a police constable. If anything it's the doctors (5yrs uni - £23k).Nurses /physios/physicists etc (3-4yrs uni £22k) Who should get paid more! The average wage is now £26k/yr. There are plenty of private companies BAE systems being one where people get paid a lot of money to sit around and not do much.
Vanderlust

Oh I made my comment about admin and management because the missus worked … Oh I made my comment about admin and management because the missus worked for the NHS in Edinburgh before she switched careers and it really was a shambles. Basic tasks that should be carried out efficiently by any average person would drag on for months and the staff wouldn't care. We're talking about admin staff who'd been there for decades and really had no interest in the job. Any attempt at getting a result quicker would be seen as pushy and met with hostility. Management wouldn't touch productivity issues for fear of a fall out and the admin really were secure in their jobs. Being fired/replaced isn't even on the cards. I get what you mean about the structure of the NHS, and my comment wasn't really aimed at wider spending issues, which you're right I know little about, but the inefficiency of the admin and management, from experience in our area is a significant contributor to the waste of tax.Scant on details there because it would take an essay to cover what was actually going on, but compare the attitudes to where she works now in finance, where very complex issues are handled in hours, issues that you have no clue about because you haven't seen them before and have no training, yet you have to work them out as they arise. The pressure is on and things get done, quickly. They have to, or you lose clients.



So you make a statement that admin and management across the NHS are basically a waste of money because your partner used to work in the NHS in one hospital or trust in Scotland?
Edited by: "dvs" 22nd Dec 2015
Now if 'Sandy Gall is Coming to Town' was in the running for Xmas 1 I'd happily offer up my 79/99p. . .

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Not a deal
seaniboy

Consultants also, the 3 of them are paid well more than the EU average, … Consultants also, the 3 of them are paid well more than the EU average, just like all most government employees, we cant afford our services because they are mostly overpaid, these services crossed a line between charity, public service and overpaid. My nhs trust employees 18 year olds to hand cups of tea out etc under the tile 'health care assistant' at £8.50ph, yet child poverty is this area is one of the highest. Why not minimum wage and make single parents do 16 hours for tax credits and save my nhs trust a fortune. If they young overpaid actually went into a nursing home job they would know what a health care assistant job is and on minimum wage. The police are overpaid in comparison to Fire service, who risk their own life not on the odd call out but most.Public service is a mess, and the Tories and Labour set that standard over a long period. Politics need to be removed from public service and run like a company, not for profit of course, make a chief exec accountable not a party.



All a HCA does is hand out cups of tea and coffee, obviously you haven't a clue what your talking about! Presumably all those incontinent bed bound patients clean themselves up, change their own beds, get themselves dressed, take themselves off to the toilet. As with any job there are a few bad apples but many are bloody good workers who work long crappy hours to care for others and do a hell of a lot more than handing out tea and coffee during their shift!
Edited by: "aprilg" 22nd Dec 2015
What happened to my post?
aprilg

All a HCA does is hand out cups of tea and coffee, obviously you haven't … All a HCA does is hand out cups of tea and coffee, obviously you haven't a clue what your talking about! Presumably all those incontinent bed bound patients clean themselves up, change their own beds, get themselves dressed, take themselves off to the toilet. As with any job there are a few bad apples but many are bloody good workers who work long crappy hours to care for others and do a hell of a lot more than handing out tea and coffee during their shift!



I agree. It's heartbreaking that general public opinion is based on a few bad apples that make the gutter press. There is no denying that the NHS is in trouble and nurses are stretched in their role more than ever, but in my 15 years of nursing in cancer care I have never once met a nurse who genuinely did not care for her patient. Perhaps that should make front page of the Sun??
I have nothing but praise for doctors and nurses especially after they saved my nephew's life. They were very professional and caring. I hope that the song is number 1!
its not about getting nurses to number 1 at Christmas, its about making a point, that the public are behind the NHS workers, and know that they work hard and try their best in almost impossible circumstances to give high standards of care to people in the most vulnerable positions. Its about showing Jeremy Hunt that he cannot treat them like something he's stood in. Its about showing David Cameron that we don't want OUR national health service being auctioned off to the highest bidder. What does Justin Bieber stand for?
Let's hope none of the people on here ever get ill, what disgraceful comments, it's a complete embarrassment reading the vile comments about nurse's.
Thank you nurse's for the fantastic job you do, luckily the nasty people on here are in a minority.
Try 12 hour shift 5 days on the trot coz government like to cut. I got like over 200 hours of time owing due to no breaks over the last year.
For being overworked and underpaid as a nurse me and my team do a great job very very few have been disappointed but you can't win them all as we also are human.
Fortunately I been their over 10 years and we have not had many major incidents.
dvs

So you make a statement that admin and management across the NHS are … So you make a statement that admin and management across the NHS are basically a waste of money because your partner used to work in the NHS in one hospital or trust in Scotland?



Well better than most people who make comments with no experience from the inside at all.

On top of that I follow the news, hear experiences from friends and family, and strangers and form a general picture. Yes, I think I'm entitled to form an opinion and I bet it's more reasoned than most.

sofia_the_last

Completely agree... 95% of them imo are moaning lazy and have all the … Completely agree... 95% of them imo are moaning lazy and have all the bedside manner of your average psychopath. Too interested in standing talking to do their job, then complain about poor pay.



How dare you. You know nothing about being a nurse try and do out job.. You won't last a week.
I actually like the songs Biebers recently released so how about you get back to work and stop working at a snail's pace...see people moving faster in a mortuary!
sofia_the_last

Completely agree... 95% of them imo are moaning lazy and have all the … Completely agree... 95% of them imo are moaning lazy and have all the bedside manner of your average psychopath. Too interested in standing talking to do their job, then complain about poor pay.



Do you have a source for that 95%, since 72% of all statistics are made up, so I am about 43% sure that yours is too
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