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Hewlett Packard - V210 16GB USB Flash Drive - £14.99 Delivered @ Play
Hewlett Packard - V210 16GB USB Flash Drive - £14.99 Delivered @ Play

Hewlett Packard - V210 16GB USB Flash Drive - £14.99 Delivered @ Play

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Looked a fairly modern design, with good performance too. All metal construction would make it stronger than most cheap drives, I've heard a few stories on here of plastic bits snapping off etc on some other drives.

Featuring a capless design and a durable metal housing, the v210w also includes a clip to attach to your shirt or briefcase, adding a fashionable twist to your electronic data storage.
* Caplesss Design
* Sleek silver design
* SIP Technology
* USB 2.0
* Compatible Windows Windows: 2000, XP, Vista, 7, Mac OS: 10.3 and above
* Data Transfer Rate
* Read Speed: Up to 30 MB/s (100x)
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* Write Speed: Up to 9 MB/s (40x)
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* Size: L 34.6mm x W 12.2mm x H 4.5mm
* Warranty: 2 year limited manufacturer warranty

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Original Poster

http://www.mycomp2u.com/images/products/NEW/USB%20Thumb%20Drive/HP%20V210W.jpg

Nice find, but having a look at the other 16gb flash drives from HP, I went for the V135W for the same price.

Read Speed: Up to 30 MB/s (100x)
Write Speed: Up to 9 MB/s (40x)

The maths isn’t exactly spot on otherwise the read speed is very good.

I’d rather a USB 3 drive for ~£20 which will give you better speeds than this over USB 2 especially the write speed; not that it’s an issue for everyone.

Agharta

Read Speed: Up to 30 MB/s (100x)Write Speed: Up to 9 MB/s (40x)The maths … Read Speed: Up to 30 MB/s (100x)Write Speed: Up to 9 MB/s (40x)The maths isn’t exactly spot on otherwise the read speed is very good.I’d rather a USB 3 drive for ~£20 which will give you better speeds than this over USB 2 especially the write speed; not that it’s an issue for everyone.



How would usb 3 give faster write speeds? or ever read speed for that matter.

As even at those speeds the usb2 bus is not saturated. It's simply cheaper memory on-board which is not fast enough to keep up with the usb 2 bus, usb 3 will make zero difference.

You are unlikely to get a usb3 dive this size and 35MB/s+ write rates for £20 ish. Usb 3 is a bit of a con atm, unless you are spending a lot of money. As a lot of the time the drive is not even quick enough to keep up with the usb2 bus, let alone the usb 3 bus


Edited by: "sven256" 22nd Feb 2011

If you want something with faster write speed these are still good for the money imo.

hotukdeals.com/dea…34/

I installed Black Ops on it at 6.9GB and it took 15mins only 2mins longer than the 360 HDD. I posted some bench marks at the bottom of the thread.


Edited by: "Klyken" 22nd Feb 2011

sven256

How would usb 3 give faster write speeds? or ever read speed for that … How would usb 3 give faster write speeds? or ever read speed for that matter.As even at those speeds the usb2 bus is not saturated. It's simply cheaper memory on-board which is not fast enough to keep up with the usb 2 bus, usb 3 will make zero difference.You are unlikely to get a usb3 dive this size and 35MB/s+ write rates for £20 ish. Usb 3 is a bit of a con atm, unless you are spending a lot of money. As a lot of the time the drive is not even quick enough to keep up with the usb2 bus, let alone the usb 3 bus



Plus even if it was better, which its not, with usb drives for transferring data, you would have to assess how many usb 3 equipped pcs you'd visit... agreed not yet worth the bother unless you spend real money and NEED the speed! ;-)

In theory the USB 2.0 standard can do 60MB/s (480Mb/s), however in reality the maximum you will ever see is about 40MB/s (320Mb/s), this is due to the margin taken between the sof's (125 us) and the fact that all USB transfers are handled by software on the PC plus some PCI BUS inefficiency's / limitations.
So even if the 30MB/s READ speed is a genuine real-world figure it's a fare way off maxing out the USB2.0, so as stated above a USB3 aint gonna make much difference. Very few if any FLASH pens on the market will be limited by the USB2 bandwith, my Voyager GT MAX's out at 31MB/s and thats regarded as one of the fastest.

These are good for the money with the fast read speeds, I've got a Patriot Rage 16GB and that's fast but you'll need to add another 15 quid on top!

does it include the paper clip??

sven256

How would usb 3 give faster write speeds? or ever read speed for that … How would usb 3 give faster write speeds? or ever read speed for that matter.As even at those speeds the usb2 bus is not saturated. It's simply cheaper memory on-board which is not fast enough to keep up with the usb 2 bus, usb 3 will make zero difference.You are unlikely to get a usb3 dive this size and 35MB/s+ write rates for £20 ish. Usb 3 is a bit of a con atm, unless you are spending a lot of money. As a lot of the time the drive is not even quick enough to keep up with the usb2 bus, let alone the usb 3 bus


My wording was evidently open to interpretation.
What I meant was that you can get inexpensive USB 3 flash drives rated at 53/20 MB/Sec Read/Write over USB3 that will give much better performance via USB2 than a ‘typical’ USB2 flash drive.
You can buy fast USB2 flash drives (20+MB/sec writes) but they seem to be more expensive than the cheaper USB3 drives without the benefit of the extra performance over USB3. Hope that’s clear.

One example which is ~£20 after Quidco and the voucher is this Transcend 16GB.

I’ve done a bit of research and think I may go for a Kingston DataTraveler Ultimate as it manages:

USB2 35/28 Read/Writes
USB3 95/68 Read/Writes

Obviously more expensive than the Transcend drive (£34 in my case) but I figure as most of my writes are on a PC with USB3 it’s worth it.
Edited by: "Agharta" 22nd Feb 2011

Great, I a 8GB Super Talent USB 20 mins ago:

http://images.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/7433-IMG3538s.jpg

Much prefer this design as the connector's aren't unprotected. I suppose I'll have faster write times to make me feel better ...

So if I were to return the one I bought should I buy this one or Lacie's Iamakey?
Edited by: "zer0nis" 22nd Feb 2011

zer0nis

Great, I a 8GB Super Talent USB 20 mins ago:Much prefer this design as … Great, I a 8GB Super Talent USB 20 mins ago:Much prefer this design as the connector's aren't unprotected. I suppose I'll have faster write times to make me feel better ...So if I were to return the one I bought should I buy this one or Lacie's Iamakey?



I would keep the super talent pendrive, these really are fast drives, I used one for 2 years while at university (16gb model) before i managed to lose the damn thing and was getting close to the advertised speeds of 30MB/s. definitely recommended for £7 more than this pendrive and the same size.

Agharta

My wording was evidently open to interpretation.What I meant was that you … My wording was evidently open to interpretation.What I meant was that you can get inexpensive USB 3 flash drives rated at 53/20 MB/Sec Read/Write over USB3 that will give much better performance via USB2 than a ‘typical’ USB2 flash drive.You can buy fast USB2 flash drives (20+MB/sec writes) but they seem to be more expensive than the cheaper USB3 drives without the benefit of the extra performance over USB3. Hope that’s clear.One example which is ~£20 after Quidco and the voucher is this Transcend 16GB.I’ve done a bit of research and think I may go for a Kingston DataTraveler Ultimate as it manages:USB2 35/28 Read/WritesUSB3 95/68 Read/WritesObviously more expensive than the Transcend drive (£34 in my case) but I figure as most of my writes are on a PC with USB3 it’s worth it.


it wasn't open to interpretation you clearly said usb3 DRIVE and nothing about using the usb2 drive with usb 3 interface.

think this drive has decent enough design and all metal appearance is quite 'slick'
(sure i read something about the metal not being kind to the usb slots or something though in previous thread.)
so i think the 'premium' design makes a bog standard drive 'worth it'

brilly

it wasn't open to interpretation


It must have been as you thought I said something that I didn’t mean!
Anyway, no matter as I clarified what I meant later.

Agharta

It must have been as you thought I said something that I didn’t m … It must have been as you thought I said something that I didn’t mean!Anyway, no matter as I clarified what I meant later.


no i agreed with the clarification post perhaps my post was open to interpretation too^^

Got one of these in the W H Smith sale after Christmas for £27. Been through the washing machine and tumble dryer after leaving it in my shirt pocket, and it still works fine! High quality kit.

At £20 for a USB pendrive you are NOT going to max out the bandwidth, so at THIS pricepoint (sub-£20), USB2 vs USB3 is a moot point.

Looking at this review:
testfreaks.com/blo…ve/

If we assume USB2 max write speed is around 25mb/s, NO drive for £20 or less can WRITE at 25mb/s, or read at 33mb/s!

Thus getting USB3 is pointless at this price point.

Good price - i've just bought one.
Edited by: "rash" 23rd Feb 2011

rash

At £20 for a USB pendrive you are NOT going to max out the bandwidth, so … At £20 for a USB pendrive you are NOT going to max out the bandwidth, so at THIS pricepoint (sub-£20), USB2 vs USB3 is a moot point.Looking at this review:[url=http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/review-of-kingston-data-traveler-ultimate-3-0-64gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive/]http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/review-of-kingston-data-traveler-ultimate-3-0-64gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive/[/url]If we assume USB2 max write speed is around 25mb/s, NO drive for £20 or less can WRITE at 25mb/s, or read at 33mb/s!Thus getting USB3 is pointless at this price point.Good price - i've just bought one.


20 quid isn't this pricepoint so your flawed argument isn't really needed anyway.

brilly

20 quid isn't this pricepoint so your flawed argument isn't really needed … 20 quid isn't this pricepoint so your flawed argument isn't really needed anyway.



Maybe you should read the whole post? I said sub £20, £14.99 is less than £20 is it not?

The argument I've made is far from flawed, it's clearly logical and reasonably well explained. So rather than spouting baseless rubbish, if you have a counter argument I'd like to hear it.

rash

Maybe you should read the whole post? I said sub £20, £14.99 is less than … Maybe you should read the whole post? I said sub £20, £14.99 is less than £20 is it not?The argument I've made is far from flawed, it's clearly logical and reasonably well explained. So rather than spouting baseless rubbish, if you have a counter argument I'd like to hear it.




http://youve-been-cromwelled.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tumbleweed.jpg

(tumbleweed lol)
Edited by: "Rupz" 23rd Feb 2011

rash

Maybe you should read the whole post? I said sub £20, £14.99 is less than … Maybe you should read the whole post? I said sub £20, £14.99 is less than £20 is it not?The argument I've made is far from flawed, it's clearly logical and reasonably well explained. So rather than spouting baseless rubbish, if you have a counter argument I'd like to hear it.


oh i did read the whole post but i didn't find any particular reason to set an arbitrary figure of 20quid.
this is a 15quid drive, compare it to 15 quid drives or think beyond a fixed point.

the 16gb supertalent drives spec for 24quid is 67read 25write so that is the same or better than your usb2 requirements and either way is one of the fastest usb2 drives around which would make it a worthy buy in its own right.

but because you decided to rule we cant spend more than 20 its 'irrelevant'.

yes you are partially right in that there is no 16gb drive under 20quid which will saturate usb2 bandwidth (the 8gb states same speeds and is under 20quid so yeah you were wrong as you said NO drive)
but the fact is that people dont have hard and fast limits, its all relative and people may want faster more flexible and be willing to pay for it.
thats why sweeping statements of
"thus getting USB3 is pointless at this price point." are artificial and irrelevant.

not taking anything away from the OPs drive - i think its a decent deal, decent speed on usb2 with nice design well worth 15quid.
but it doesn't make other options pointless.

brilly

oh i did read the whole post but i didn't find any particular reason to … oh i did read the whole post but i didn't find any particular reason to set an arbitrary figure of 20quid.this is a 15quid drive, compare it to 15 quid drives or think beyond a fixed point.the 16gb supertalent drives spec for 24quid is 67read 25write so that is the same or better than your usb2 requirements and either way is one of the fastest usb2 drives around which would make it a worthy buy in its own right.but because you decided to rule we cant spend more than 20 its 'irrelevant'. yes you are partially right in that there is no 16gb drive under 20quid which will saturate usb2 bandwidth (the 8gb states same speeds and is under 20quid so yeah you were wrong as you said NO drive)but the fact is that people dont have hard and fast limits, its all relative and people may want faster more flexible and be willing to pay for it.thats why sweeping statements of "thus getting USB3 is pointless at this price point." are artificial and irrelevant.not taking anything away from the OPs drive - i think its a decent deal, decent speed on usb2 with nice design well worth 15quid.but it doesn't make other options pointless.



http://tottenhamonmymind.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/vic_bob_handbags.jpg

yeah i know - i'll stick to dancing round em for the meantime.

Just got this today and a quick test on the speed using dd gives me a write speed of 16mb/s:

dd if=Downloads/somefile.iso of=/media/HP\ v210w/somefile.iso2136184+0 … dd if=Downloads/somefile.iso of=/media/HP\ v210w/somefile.iso2136184+0 records in2136184+0 records out1093726208 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 67.3846 s, 16.2 MB/s


that is for a single 1.1GB file though.

compared with a 16GB Sandisk Cruzer:

dd if=Downloads/somefile.iso of=/media/disk/somefile.iso2136184+0 records … dd if=Downloads/somefile.iso of=/media/disk/somefile.iso2136184+0 records in2136184+0 records out1093726208 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 504.634 s, 2.2 MB/s


Edited by: "rash" 28th Feb 2011
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