Hikvision DS-7616NI-E2/A - Network Video Recorder (NVR) £166.91 @ Amazon
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Hikvision DS-7616NI-E2/A - Network Video Recorder (NVR) £166.91 @ Amazon

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Found 30th Apr 2017
So I've kept an eye on this for a while now, usually hovering around £204.

CamelCamelCamel says this is the cheapest its been.

You require cameras preferable POE ones and a HDD, preferably a surveillance drive to get this up and running.

Not a deal for the masses but certainly if you're looking to build a decent CCTV system this is a good base.
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Having been through setting up 8 cameras across two of our houses I thought I'd share my thoughts for the benefit of others:

1) DO NOT open any Hikvision camera to the WWW (port forward/uPNP) without checking this release and ensuring your fw is updated accordingly Security Notification: Privilege-Escalating Vulnerability in Certain Hikvision IP Cameras

2) Even if your fw is up to date I would strongly suggest using a VPN server for remote access (many NAS's or routers provide VPN servers for remote access). Given the lackadaisical approach to support (as mentioned by others regarding the gmail issue) and general "bugginess" of their software I have little faith there aren't other vulnerabilities in their software.

3) I'm running openvpn on my NAS. One further advantage of going this route is you can also use the VPN when on un-secure networks (public wifi) or for localisation shifting (using BBC iPlayer when abroad etc).

4) DO NOT buy a grey market Hikvision product. When I got my first Hikvision cameras they weren't readily available in the UK, as such I ordered from abroad. At the time I had no idea Hikvision would start a vendetta against its customers who bought from abroad, rather then address the issues with its supply chain. Fortunately those early cameras are R0 build so I can update the fw relatively "easily". But later customers have had real issues. And there are no exceptions for security fixes as mentioned in (1)

5) Many other options are now available. When I first opted for Hikvision, on a £ for £ basis no one came close. The gap between the competition has closed significantly since. Consider Dahua etc. If Hikvision still makes sense, do some research to ensure there aren't any show stopping issues for your requirements. As you can't be sure they will be fixed before they choose to drop support.

6) I see little reason to get a NVR, unless you have a large number of cameras. The cameras have decent onboard motion based events, can push to an SMB share, push alerts to mobile and email alerts/snapshots. Unless there is a compelling reason to buy an NVR I would suggest POE switch + NAS is a better route.

7) I have set my cameras up with 3 detection zones.

Line crossing detection sends push notifications to my mobile via IVMS4500. The lines are drawn in from my boundary to minimise false triggers, although I still get some from shadows/light changing/car lights on my drive/animals. Line triggering tends to give far less false positives. You can switch notifications on and off from the App. So I just have it on when i'm out.

Intrusion detection is set without push notifications to cover secondary areas (rest of my drive/etc). This ensures events are still captured, but means I don't get notifications for every little thing. So if someone strays on my property, breaks something, etc it will be recorded. But I won't be bombarded with alerts.

Finally I use the standard motion detection for tertiary areas. Again this is without notifications, so events will still be recorded should I discover an issue and need to go back to look at recordings retrospectively.

With this setup a 3TB serving 4 cameras (3 & 4MP @ 20fps) gives 30+ days worth of recordings.

8 ) If I was starting from scratch I'd get cameras with external alarm triggering inputs. I could then add PIR's to trigger recordings and use push notifications to mobile for those. Thus eliminating most of the false triggers (other then stray animals). I could also setup floodlights to trigger on those same PIR's to improve night recording performance and as a deterrent. This is the only reason I may consider an NVR in the future, so I can cheaply add external PIR based triggers for recording and notifications.

9) If you go the NAS route, unless you only have one camera and the NAS is dedicated to it alone, ensure it has the ability to set "user quotas". When using a network share the Hikvision cameras format it and expect to have the whole capacity to themselves. Therefore if anything else writes to the NAS reducing the capacity (including another camera), the Hikvision camera will dismount the storage and stop recording. You then have to reformat it manually. A NAS with user quotas overcomes this issue.

If anyones interested, my setup is HP Microserver running as a NAS and openvpn server. With the cameras powered by a POE switch. No ports forwarded and uPNP off at the router and cameras.

Hope that helps.



Edited by: "Mentos" 3rd May 2017
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waiting on a deal on a 4k setup myself
888eyeball

waiting on a deal on a 4k setup myself



And I thought 1080p was over kill!

Not sure what use case your buying for but in terms of a normal residential property 1080p cameras are more than enough imo. Cost of 4k @25fps cameras are going to be expensive! Most professionals that set up CCTV for residential customers have it set at 720p @ like 15fps tops, from what i've seen.

But each to their own

Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the cheap Chinese Hikvisions I bought off Aliexpress X)

Edited by: "Limitless." 30th Apr 2017
justintrouble

Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the … Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the cheap Chinese Hikvisions I bought off Aliexpress X)



My friend went to Hikvisions trade event, their h.265 cameras and NVR's are on their way so not too much of wait for you.
Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the ones I liberated from the big posh house down the road two nights ago
What does this give you over say a synology station with surveillance app??? Don't really get it why someone would buy this over a Qnap or Synology station.
Would this go well with the Hikvision DS-2CD2342WD-I 4 mm Fixed Lens IR EXIR Turret CCTV Network Cameras?

Is the above camera suitable for use on a 1930s terraced house or would 6mm ones be more suitable? Approx 100ft garden. Unsure if one camera at the front of the property and one at the rear would provide good enough coverage or whether 2 each side (one high and one lower down) would be better.

There is the 8 channel NVR for ~ £170

Assuming it is best to get WD purple drives for use with the NVR?

Thanks.
Holgmaster

What does this give you over say a synology station with surveillance … What does this give you over say a synology station with surveillance app??? Don't really get it why someone would buy this over a Qnap or Synology station.



So, POE to the cameras (16 of them) and from the last time I used the surveillance app, doesn't it only allow a certain number of camera before you have to pay a subscription? HDMI out to a tv/monitor.

And working in Tech support i know how difficult to a novice setting up a NAS is, these however are much simpler

But there are many ways to go about CCTV, this is one way with its own benefits.
Holgmaster

What does this give you over say a synology station with surveillance … What does this give you over say a synology station with surveillance app??? Don't really get it why someone would buy this over a Qnap or Synology station.



Thanks for mentioning these. Looks like I need to do some more CCTV storage research before purchasing a system.
thetarget

Would this go well with the Hikvision DS-2CD2342WD-I 4 mm Fixed Lens IR … Would this go well with the Hikvision DS-2CD2342WD-I 4 mm Fixed Lens IR EXIR Turret CCTV Network Cameras?Is the above camera suitable for use on a 1930s terraced house or would 6mm ones be more suitable? Approx 100ft garden. Unsure if one camera at the front of the property and one at the rear would provide good enough coverage or whether 2 each side (one high and one lower down) would be better.There is the 8 channel NVR for ~ £170 Assuming it is best to get WD purple drives for use with the NVR?Thanks.



Those are the cameras I have in my wish list, only the 4mm version.

I went on youtube to see the differences in 2/4/6mm to decide whats best for me.

I'm getting a purple, amazon.co.uk/dp/…c=1

Also currently a good price.

I prefer the 16, 1 because its cheaper and 2 because I'd like to think its build with a bit more overhead than the 8 port model.
My advice is make sure the seller is an authorised reseller and gives a full 3yr warranty
Hdd wise wd purple or seagate skyhawks are recommended
Most amazon sales / ebay have 180 days to get a refund after which its fingers crossed territory, authorised resellers can get a reconditioned unit sent out within 1-2working days as opposed to having to wait up to 4weeks on a repair. I know this as my company is an authorised reseller *im not going to link to our site*
Holgmaster

What does this give you over say a synology station with surveillance … What does this give you over say a synology station with surveillance app??? Don't really get it why someone would buy this over a Qnap or Synology station.



For a start a synology only supports 2 cameras without additional licenses, you will also need a heavier nas to process the number if signals. Typically these kind of devices support higher numbers of cameras at a lower price than a nas.
justintrouble

Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the … Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the cheap Chinese Hikvisions I bought off Aliexpress X)



I thought hikvision NVRs were fixed not to work with hikvision cameras from a different region, such as the cheap hacked into english language Chinese ones that are sold on aliexpress?
I've got a swann CCTV which has 720p Poe cameras, the swann box is crap, will my cameras work with this?
justintrouble

Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the … Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the cheap Chinese Hikvisions I bought off Aliexpress X)



Mind me asking which Hikvision cameras you went for?

The main problem with grey imports is when you upgrade thd nvr sometimes the camera will refuse to operate until its firmware is up to date which would mean your cameras are no longer in english...up to now we have found Chinese cameras still work however hikvision keep saying theyre working on stopping them

melted

I thought hikvision NVRs were fixed not to work with hikvision cameras … I thought hikvision NVRs were fixed not to work with hikvision cameras from a different region, such as the cheap hacked into english language Chinese ones that are sold on aliexpress?


edd666999

And I thought 1080p was over kill!Not sure what use case your buying for … And I thought 1080p was over kill!Not sure what use case your buying for but in terms of a normal residential property 1080p cameras are more than enough imo. Cost of 4k @25fps cameras are going to be expensive! Most professionals that set up CCTV for residential customers have it set at 720p @ like 15fps tops, from what i've seen.But each to their own



1080p is ok for close cctv but no good if the suspect is 20ft away
MazingerZ

1080p is ok for close cctv but no good if the suspect is 20ft away



​exactly
I was going to get the 4 channel version which is cheaper...

amazon.co.uk/d/5…O8/

But i'm tempted by this, however I am slightly put off by the lack of POE ports, has anyone used a hikvision nvr like this one with only one port?
Edited by: "unknownuser" 30th Apr 2017
Could somebody be so kind as too recommend a 4 camera system? I would prefer POE .... But not essential. remote access via iPhone would be needed 1080p and cameras would need to be wall and ceiling mounted. many thanks!
justintrouble

Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the … Thanks for posting, but I need an NVR that does H.265, to work with the cheap Chinese Hikvisions I bought off Aliexpress X)



I've seen a Hikvision NVR on ebay for £139.99 no HDD thats does H.265 , 4 channel with 40Mbps input bandwidth - so depends a lot how many cameras and res used.
unknownuser

I was going to get the 4 channel version which is … I was going to get the 4 channel version which is cheaper...https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/5fn/Hikvision-DS-7604NI-E1-4P-Embedded-Network-Video-Recorder/B0171MUWO8/But i'm tempted by this, however I am slightly put off by the lack of POE ports, has anyone used a hikvision nvr like this one with only one port?



This has 16 independent POE ports

hikvision.com/us/…tml
edd666999

This has 16 independent POE … This has 16 independent POE portshttp://www.hikvision.com/us/Products_1_10649_i8726.html



I don't think it does, this model is DS-7616NI-E2/A which isn't that model, it's this one:

hikvision.com/eur…tml

You'll need to choose the right model number on the tabs to see the exact specs.

If you look at this model at another retailer it shows only one physical network port:

dipolnet.com/ip_…htm
unknownuser

Here's the data sheet for this … Here's the data sheet for this model:http://www.hikvision.com//uploadfile/image/10297_CUsersdingyingtingDesktopUD.6L0202G2022A01SpecofDS7600NIE2AV3.3.220150702.pdf



Ohh yes, you're right. Thank god all my camera are going to go into a POE switch!
thetarget

Would this go well with the Hikvision DS-2CD2342WD-I 4 mm Fixed Lens IR … Would this go well with the Hikvision DS-2CD2342WD-I 4 mm Fixed Lens IR EXIR Turret CCTV Network Cameras?Is the above camera suitable for use on a 1930s terraced house or would 6mm ones be more suitable? Approx 100ft garden. Unsure if one camera at the front of the property and one at the rear would provide good enough coverage or whether 2 each side (one high and one lower down) would be better.There is the 8 channel NVR for ~ £170 Assuming it is best to get WD purple drives for use with the NVR?Thanks.


I have 4 of the 4mm exir turrets, 4 Ch NVR and WD purple 3TB.

Cameras are brilliant, night vision is crystal clear.
The 4mm has quite a wide field of view, I have them mounted around 3m high.

Can definitely recommend.
Edited by: "callum84" 30th Apr 2017
phead

For a start a synology only supports 2 cameras without additional … For a start a synology only supports 2 cameras without additional licenses, you will also need a heavier nas to process the number if signals. Typically these kind of devices support higher numbers of cameras at a lower price than a nas.



Thanks for this. I have a 8 bay synology which came with 4 camera license out of the box. It's a good system and with a cloud backup you can save your footage in a S3 bucket or glacier bucket. I see what you mean by HDMI output which does come in handy. I run The Surveillance station app on an old android tab glued to the wall.

Might have a look at this for my parents home. Thanks again!
callum84

I have 4 of the 4mm exir turrets, 4 Ch NVR and WD purple 3TB.Cameras are … I have 4 of the 4mm exir turrets, 4 Ch NVR and WD purple 3TB.Cameras are brilliant, night vision is crystal clear.The 4mm has quite a wide field of view, I have them mounted around 3m high.Can definitely recommend.



Thanks for this. Which NVR are you using?
you_gotta_be_kidding

I've got a swann CCTV which has 720p Poe cameras, the swann box is crap, … I've got a swann CCTV which has 720p Poe cameras, the swann box is crap, will my cameras work with this?


yes it will work but you will need to change the network for the swann to match that of the NVR network as these have their own network IP's
unknownuser

I was going to get the 4 channel version which is … I was going to get the 4 channel version which is cheaper...https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/5fn/Hikvision-DS-7604NI-E1-4P-Embedded-Network-Video-Recorder/B0171MUWO8/But i'm tempted by this, however I am slightly put off by the lack of POE ports, has anyone used a hikvision nvr like this one with only one port?


you can only add cameras to the total numbers of POE ports ie 4port NVR means only 4 camera regardless of going via a poe switch, as i have the 8 poe port version and can only add 8x camera as cameras are connected via 24 port POE switch not the NVR but does connect via lan to my switch...hope it make sense to someone LOL
Ordered a Hikvision DS-7616NI-E2/A with the 3 year £20 Amazon warranty. Also purchased a NETGEAR GS308P-100UKS 8-Port Gigabit Switch with 4-Port PoE which is currently £49.99 on Amazon.

Now to decide whether to go for a 2TB or 4TB WD Purple HDD; sort out some CAT5e/6 cable; and order a camera.
Edited by: "thetarget" 1st May 2017
a few points to bear in mind about Him;
they are implementing firmware updates which if you have grey clone from abroad will brick or fail
you need the firmware update as they have switched off their open hosting service and you now need to register via MAC and password on sticker on camera - or bypass entirely using open DNS (paid or annoyware service) to host.
this will affect your remote viewing potential via app etc .

also the talk about having and using high Resolution will be ok on the camera but she used on the NVR - the Hik cannot cope with high Res and multiple cam's - I have a 4 port and can only run 2 cam's at 3mp potential the additional of one more results in abnormal shutdown as the CPU can't cope (Google as known issue). my fix was to lower resolution- defeats purpose of buying high Res cameras though...

also factor in cost of POE switch , brackets to hold camera e.g. away from wall, junction box?, UTP cat 5e/6 external wiring, cover/shield for UTP, decent hard drive and microSD card 64/127gb? as you can't rely on NVR entirely.
hope this helps
hate auto correc!
Yeah i get that the number of cameras you can connect is limited by the number of channels. At the moment i don't actually need more than 3 channels, but I'm still tempted by this one incase i ever do decide to increase the number of cameras.

Another bit I'm not sure about is that 4mp is specifically not mentioned as a supported recording resolution, will that be a problem with the 4mp cameras?
unknownuser

I was going to get the 4 channel version which is … I was going to get the 4 channel version which is cheaper...https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/5fn/Hikvision-DS-7604NI-E1-4P-Embedded-Network-Video-Recorder/B0171MUWO8/But i'm tempted by this, however I am slightly put off by the lack of POE ports, has anyone used a hikvision nvr like this one with only one port?



The one you linked to for £124.99 only has 25Mbps incoming bandwidth. This one has 40Mbps for 4 channels, 80 for 8 and 160 for 16. Depends on what cameras you want to use as to their bandwidth requirements.

I opted for this one as it should be okay for 4MP Hikvision cameras. The other one mentions 3MP cameras. Assuming all Amazon information is correct on both product pages.
Edited by: "thetarget" 1st May 2017
thetarget

Thanks for this. Which NVR are you using?


DS-7604NI-E1-4P (40MBps)
thetarget

The one you linked to for £124.99 only has 25Mbps incoming bandwidth. … The one you linked to for £124.99 only has 25Mbps incoming bandwidth. This one has 40Mbps for 4 channels, 80 for 8 and 160 for 16. Depends on what cameras you want to use as to their bandwidth requirements.I opted for this one as it should be okay for 4MP Hikvision cameras. The other one mentions 3MP cameras. Assuming all Amazon information is correct on both product pages.



Thanks I'd missed that, I'd assumed it was the 40Mbps version.
unknownuser

Thanks I'd missed that, I'd assumed it was the 40Mbps version.


Scrap what I said before. It states 25Mbps in the product description but at the top it states 40MBps bandwidth.

Callum84 has commented it is 40Mbps.

Amazon need to sort out correct information on listings. I've got confused from looking at all the Hikvision stuff. With some NVRs reportedly having issues with some 4MP cameras. Lack or PoE ports; bandwidth etc!

Just when I think I have sorted something out there is another curveball.
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