Hisense H65N5300 65" Freeview HD and Freeview Play Smart 4K Ultra HD TV - Black £764.10 with code (£714.10 after cashback claim) @ AO

It says "Ultra HD certified", is this the same as Ultra HD Premium aka 10bit HDR?

Lowest model with 8 bit panel (not even 8 bit + FRC) no HDR

Can never get a true 10 bit at this price.

This does not have HDR but it still is the best tv you can buy for this size anywhere near this price. So HOT from me.

I have a HDR TV and I don't get the hype... I mean I turn the brightness to 1/40 because I find it too bright lol. To me HDR is just a software lock of content to get you to spend money. They could just naturally make better panels and have existing content make better use of it, instead they make software as a hard gate. For example my iMac is DCIP3 100%, more than these HDR TVs which are 90% at best most the time, also they advertise 1000nits... yeah only on 2% of the panel, in truth 100% of the panel is only 300nits... where again my iMac can do 600nits 100% of the panel. My iMac is over 220ppi, where these TVs are 120PPI at best, so it's a lot sharper....

However my iMac cannot display DCIP3 in movies because they have decided to software lock it, but if I download a third party video that supports it, suddenly my image looks WAYYYYYYY better than my TV, which is apparently HDR 4K 1000+nits.

Pisses me off, it's just another thing to drive consumerism.

Got 55 inch version of this but SD channels look terrible and pixelated/blurry when compared to 3 year old FHD LG, since we still watch a lot of SD content it's not a very viable option. Otherwise 4K content is mindblowing. Most freeview channels are 480p so think before buying if that's what you watch a lot. I think I will return mine.

Bought this TV last year and looks absolutely beautiful in 4k, at this price is a steal.

samhain8110 m ago

Bought this TV last year and looks absolutely beautiful in 4k, at this …Bought this TV last year and looks absolutely beautiful in 4k, at this price is a steal.Read lessRead more

You probably talking about different Tv - maybe M7000 which was great ?... N5300 is this year lower end model

pavel765 m ago

You probably talking about different Tv - maybe M7000 which was great ?... …You probably talking about different Tv - maybe M7000 which was great ?... N5300 is this year lower end modelRead lessRead more

Ahh could be right. My model was the 65k5510

Is there a huge difference between the two then?

It's like all Hisense posts are instant heat...

Cheaper on Groupon and Curry’s.

JayD3326 m ago

It's like all Hisense posts are instant heat...

Thats because there Flaming good.
If weren't moving house and monies roaring out to solicitor and E agents I'd be screening all over this.

abhijitdash1232 h, 6 m ago

Can never get a true 10 bit at this price. This does not have HDR but it …Can never get a true 10 bit at this price. This does not have HDR but it still is the best tv you can buy for this size anywhere near this price. So HOT from me.Read lessRead more

you can do better if you buy used. I recently spent £900 buying a 2016 Samsung Curved 65" 7000 series TV with stand.

oh and I dont even bother with HDR, even on a ULTRA HD certified model. Theres no point if you watch TV / movies in a dark room with bias lighting

iEimis2 h, 21 m ago

Got 55 inch version of this but SD channels look terrible and …Got 55 inch version of this but SD channels look terrible and pixelated/blurry when compared to 3 year old FHD LG, since we still watch a lot of SD content it's not a very viable option. Otherwise 4K content is mindblowing. Most freeview channels are 480p so think before buying if that's what you watch a lot. I think I will return mine.Read lessRead more

Why is SD pixilated? Is because of the size of the screen?

How do you get the cashback exactly?

Just remember the saying..."buying Hisense makes No Sense"

iamqwerty12335 m ago

I recently spent £900 buying a 2016 Samsung Curved 65" 7000 series TV

I am genuinely gutted for you.

spenspuma12 m ago

Just remember the saying..."buying Hisense makes No Sense"

Ye the company dropped by sharp for making tvs not up to specs, radiation issues, and shoddy build quality for that reason, I'm out!

CartoonHead7827 m ago

Ye the company dropped by sharp for making tvs not up to specs, radiation …Ye the company dropped by sharp for making tvs not up to specs, radiation issues, and shoddy build quality for that reason, I'm out!Read lessRead more

Really? Where did you get this? Its one of the biggest companies making TVs now!!!

I just returned a Hisense new model 55 inch TV to Argos after it developed a problem meaning it wouldn't come out of standby and had to be turned off and on at the plug to solve it. Whilst these things can happen, I will never own a Hisense TV again due to the fact that their customer service is ATROCIOUS. I don't say that lightly. ATROCIOUS. The only contact number for them in the UK is an independent repair centre based in Newcastle. I was informed by at least 2 managers that the turn around for replacement parts can be up to 50 WORKING DAYS before they will even entertain replacing your TV. Anything under this, tough luck!

My TV was only 6 weeks old when it stopped working properly. It was away for repair for another 34 days, not because it was hard to fix but because they could source the replacement PCU Board parts in a timely manner. As I said ATROCIOUS. I'd recommend you know what you're letting yourself in for if a fault develops beyond the point where the retailer you bought it from is willing to repair or replace it on your behalf...

muttonman1 h, 3 m ago

Why is SD pixilated? Is because of the size of the screen?

That, and also the fact that it has to upscale SD to 4K, in fact it was unable to do so, so it was only upscalling it to 1080p, and that looked horrible. No matter how hard I tried to tweak the settings it wouldn’t get much better, and so I’ve just returned it. Don’t get me wrong, if you watch lots of 4K then it’s great, I’ve only paid £428 for 55inch one because I had 2x10% off codes so for the money you can’t get better.

iEimis3 h, 55 m ago

Most freeview channels are 480p so think before buying if that's what you …Most freeview channels are 480p so think before buying if that's what you watch a lot.Read lessRead more

What do you expect seeing Freeview is two bob, though that said it’s a bit more expensive than two bob......its actually 147 quid a year so not at all ‘free’ really

I got a 65 inch XE9005 which is a far superior telly to this and the price reflects it but SD still looks like utter crap on it no matter how much you fiddle around with the settings.

If you don’t want watch programmes in HD or higher resolution for the vast majority of your viewing time in the year 2017 you might as well just get a CRT set that weighs 10 stone from a local boot sale for about two n a half quid.

Chasloyal3 m ago

What do you expect seeing Freeview is two bob, though that said it’s a bit …What do you expect seeing Freeview is two bob, though that said it’s a bit more expensive than two bob......its actually 147 quid a year so not at all ‘free’ really I got a 65 inch XE9005 which is a far superior telly to this and the price reflects it but SD still looks like utter crap on it no matter how much you fiddle around with the settings.If you don’t want watch programmes in HD or higher resolution for the vast majority of your viewing time in the year 2017 you might as well just get a CRT set that weighs 10 stone from a local boot sale for about two n a half quid.Read lessRead more

I am fully aware of this, and I never expected that 4K will make SD content look like 4K, however I did not expect it to be that crap in comparison to FHD TV. Since SD content is majority of what we watch or more in particular my relatives, it doesn’t make sense to replace TV that reproduces SD content better than this 4K one. If I was to get TV for myself now, I’d definitely go for 4K.

spenspuma2 h, 22 m ago

I am genuinely gutted for you.

Why? I watched a few Netflix 4k on it last, looked great.

*Sloman*6 h, 9 m ago

It says "Ultra HD certified", is this the same as Ultra HD Premium aka …It says "Ultra HD certified", is this the same as Ultra HD Premium aka 10bit HDR?Read lessRead more

No, that's a different certification program. The UHD Premium badge is promoted by a body called the UHD Alliance while the UHD Certified badge is by a body called Digital Europe.

Unlike UHD Premium which defines some rough boundaries that good HDR TVs will share (but doesn't guarantee good HDR) the Digital Europe sticker is purely for the resolution.

samhain814 h, 48 m ago

Ahh could be right. My model was the 65k5510Is there a huge difference …Ahh could be right. My model was the 65k5510Is there a huge difference between the two then?Read lessRead more

Yeah, this is the next model down, The K5510 was replaced by the N6800.

muttonman2 h, 45 m ago

Why is SD pixilated? Is because of the size of the screen?

It's an interesting question, personally I suspect it's just a lack of refinement in the scalers than any fundamental limitation. They've had years and years to learn how to make SD look best on a 1920x1080 screen.

slannmage5 h, 13 m ago

I have a HDR TV and I don't get the hype... I mean I turn the brightness …I have a HDR TV and I don't get the hype... I mean I turn the brightness to 1/40 because I find it too bright lol. To me HDR is just a software lock of content to get you to spend money. They could just naturally make better panels and have existing content make better use of it, instead they make software as a hard gate. For example my iMac is DCIP3 100%, more than these HDR TVs which are 90% at best most the time, also they advertise 1000nits... yeah only on 2% of the panel, in truth 100% of the panel is only 300nits... where again my iMac can do 600nits 100% of the panel. My iMac is over 220ppi, where these TVs are 120PPI at best, so it's a lot sharper.... However my iMac cannot display DCIP3 in movies because they have decided to software lock it, but if I download a third party video that supports it, suddenly my image looks WAYYYYYYY better than my TV, which is apparently HDR 4K 1000+nits.Pisses me off, it's just another thing to drive consumerism.Read lessRead more

HDR has exactly the same overall brightness as SDR. In fact the fixed brightness HDR formats (HDR10 and Dolby Vision) are often dimmer than most people watch SDR content at: hdtvtest.co.uk/new…htm

If your TV is ramping up the brightness across all content then that's down to how your model is treating it and not the intent of the technology.

The main point of HDR is increase contrast. Instead of making the black parts of the screen black it focuses on the other end and makes the light sources, highlights and other small, bright parts of the screen brighter.

The ideal HDR picture isn't any brighter or dimmer overall, but more realistic.

The wider colour space is being included in the HDR push because it complementary. HDR requires a rewrite of some of the picture standards so it's a good time to add a couple more. Your iMac may have the wider colour space, but it completely lacks the local dimming system necessary to show a wider brightness range on screen at once.

That's the big limitation for HDR right now, the best HDR TVs are those that can apply the brightness to small areas anywhere on the screen rather than those with the highest peak brightness. This is why the UHD Premium certification is only a very rough guideline, it doesn't take this into account at all.


As for using it as a software gate, these things take a lot of effort to get moving. Wide gamut screens have been available cheaply on computers for fifteen or twenty years now, yet if you display the average website on a non-sRGB display the colours are still wrong.

The value of generating buzz and getting people to put money down to show content producers there's interesting in a technology shouldn't be underestimated. It remains to be seen whether they've pushed HDR too hard though, and whether the backlash from the current poor levels of support on mainstream TVs will kill it.

Hopefully not, it is looking much more promising than the recent attemps (3D, Curved, 4K on TVs).

samhain815 h, 23 m ago

Ahh could be right. My model was the 65k5510Is there a huge difference …Ahh could be right. My model was the 65k5510Is there a huge difference between the two then?Read lessRead more

I have the same TV, the 65k5510..... Looks absolutely stunning with decent 4K content,
only issue i've found is there's slight vertical banding on dark grey / blue backgrounds, but otherwise it's a brilliant set.

have you had any similar issues with yours?

Alright so, before I bite (and I'm TRYING to wait for black Friday)...

My current setup is a 50" LG Plasma, 50PH660V. Fairly low down on the spec sheet, but I literally only use it with a gaming laptop that's currently limited to 1080p. YouTube, Amazon, Kodi and games is about as much as I throw at it.

In terms of cheaper panels like this, will I see much of a difference in image quality/brightness/contrast compared to my current setup?

I've bought a Displayport to HDMI adapter in preparation as the DP can output to 4k, unfortunately the HDMI cannot.

JB7425 m ago

I have the same TV, the 65k5510..... Looks absolutely stunning with decent …I have the same TV, the 65k5510..... Looks absolutely stunning with decent 4K content,only issue i've found is there's slight vertical banding on dark grey / blue backgrounds, but otherwise it's a brilliant set.have you had any similar issues with yours?Read lessRead more

I've had a couple issues, most of which were sorted through various option selects. Any light bleeding was sorted through just reducing the backlight to an optimal setting where it was no longer visible. Motion blur issues were sorted by just always using game mode , which completely removes any motion blur. One issue I still have which I can't fix is there seems to be a black screen burn like smudge underneath the screen, looks like a permanent pause icon, which completely distracts me when I'm watching a bright day time scene, as it's right bang in the middle of the screen. No banding though.

iEimis2 h, 9 m ago

I am fully aware of this, and I never expected that 4K will make SD …I am fully aware of this, and I never expected that 4K will make SD content look like 4K, however I did not expect it to be that crap in comparison to FHD TV. Since SD content is majority of what we watch or more in particular my relatives, it doesn’t make sense to replace TV that reproduces SD content better than this 4K one. If I was to get TV for myself now, I’d definitely go for 4K.Read lessRead more

iEimis2 h, 9 m ago

I am fully aware of this, and I never expected that 4K will make SD …I am fully aware of this, and I never expected that 4K will make SD content look like 4K, however I did not expect it to be that crap in comparison to FHD TV. Since SD content is majority of what we watch or more in particular my relatives, it doesn’t make sense to replace TV that reproduces SD content better than this 4K one. If I was to get TV for myself now, I’d definitely go for 4K.Read lessRead more

It has been well publicised how poor SD looks on each newer range of modern televisions though, has it not?

Blimey I actually start piping up at other members of the household if they even watch monkey old tosh like ‘Gerald’(Jeremy Kyle) on standard definition ITV whatever rather than the HD option of the channel because it looks so pony when they do, never mind anything else.

Didn't spend all that on a decent telly and don’t lay out that extra dough for Sky Q silver or whatever it’s called with multi room(even though we got an extremely good deal on it) to access the UHD content for anyone to watch stuff in a 1971 picture which SD on a proper TV set invariably is nowadays.

Chasloyal1 m ago

It has been well publicised how poor SD looks on each newer range of …It has been well publicised how poor SD looks on each newer range of modern televisions though, has it not?Blimey I actually start piping up at other members of the household if they even watch monkey old tosh like ‘Gerald’(Jeremy Kyle) on standard definition ITV whatever rather than the HD option of the channel because it looks so pony when they do, never mind anything else.Didn't spend all that on a decent telly and don’t lay out that extra dough for Sky Q silver or whatever it’s called with multi room(even though we got an extremely good deal on it) to access the UHD content for anyone to watch stuff in a 1971 picture which SD on a proper TV set invariably is nowadays.Read lessRead more

Main problem is that many channels only support SD still when it comes to 'freeview' which is what my parents watch a lot.

samhain8139 m ago

I've had a couple issues, most of which were sorted through various option …I've had a couple issues, most of which were sorted through various option selects. Any light bleeding was sorted through just reducing the backlight to an optimal setting where it was no longer visible. Motion blur issues were sorted by just always using game mode , which completely removes any motion blur. One issue I still have which I can't fix is there seems to be a black screen burn like smudge underneath the screen, looks like a permanent pause icon, which completely distracts me when I'm watching a bright day time scene, as it's right bang in the middle of the screen. No banding though.Read lessRead more

ah, yeah i can imagine that being a distraction..... have you contacted hisense about the smudge thing?... that would probably bug me too much to ignore.
I was tempted to return mine due to the banding, but sitting straight on from the screen its hardly visible, only when viewing from the side. have kind of got used to it now, especially as it's only really visible against certain backgrounds, so it's not really an issue anymore.
all in all it's a decent TV

Price now £849 - £50 = £799.

Not quite so hot now...

dkl_uk1 h, 11 m ago

Alright so, before I bite (and I'm TRYING to wait for black Friday)...My …Alright so, before I bite (and I'm TRYING to wait for black Friday)...My current setup is a 50" LG Plasma, 50PH660V. Fairly low down on the spec sheet, but I literally only use it with a gaming laptop that's currently limited to 1080p. YouTube, Amazon, Kodi and games is about as much as I throw at it.In terms of cheaper panels like this, will I see much of a difference in image quality/brightness/contrast compared to my current setup?I've bought a Displayport to HDMI adapter in preparation as the DP can output to 4k, unfortunately the HDMI cannot.Read lessRead more

A plasma TV will always have better contrast ratio than any LCD. Only an OLED TV will be better than a plasma wrt contrast ratio. And if it has good contrast ratio, picture will really look nice.

However a plasma will be using a ridiculous amount of electricity which can be saved by using a LED TV. A new TV may have smart capabilities but thats nothing a £30 fire tv stick cannot add to your existing tv. Its finding a balance between power usage and image quality and led fits right bang in the middle, hence the craze.

For you if you have got a good plasma, then keep it as long as its going good

Chasloyal1 h, 15 m ago

Didn't spend all that on a decent telly and don’t lay out that extra dough …Didn't spend all that on a decent telly and don’t lay out that extra dough for Sky Q silver or whatever it’s called with multi room(even though we got an extremely good deal on it) to access the UHD content for anyone to watch stuff in a 1971 picture which SD on a proper TV set invariably is nowadays.Read lessRead more

Sky Q is what? £300-400 a year? It's not exactly the default choice for someone spending under £150 a year on a TV like this one.

abhijitdash12324 m ago

A plasma TV will always have better contrast ratio than any LCD.

Not true even under measurement conditions, there were plenty of plasmas that were below the ~6000:1 of a good LCD.

And in the real world when you're not watching in low light the higher brightness of an LCD can result in better contrast than even more plasmas.


@dkl_uk What sort of distance are you watching from? 4K is a LOT of pixels and unless you'd be comfortable with a 32" Full HD TV from your viewing distance then you'd have to use some form of scaling - which has it's downsides.

If you're happy with your current setup I'd be inclined to hang onto it. Right now the market isn't in a great position with regards to software and content support for new standards.

I have the n5700 , whats the difference with the n5300 and the n5700 , very impressed with picture , ps4 pro looks amazing

JayD337 h, 1 m ago

It's like all Hisense posts are instant heat...

​Paid Chinese bots

EndlessWaves1 h, 8 m ago

Sky Q is what? £300-400 a year?

A quick search on Google says you can get Sky Q for an apple a month which works out 240 quid a year.

I pay a pony a month for everything like the full package, all sports and movies and box sets, and have done for the last 18 months and have it locked down till September next year too so that's your mythical 300 quid annual figure there.

Admittedly I pay an extra 12 quid a month on top to get multi room unlocking 4K/UHD in the process but it's my choice......unlike being forced to contribute 147 quid a year to the despicable liberal propaganda broadcasting corporation whether I want to or not!

iEimis2 h, 22 m ago

Main problem is that many channels only support SD still when it comes to …Main problem is that many channels only support SD still when it comes to 'freeview' which is what my parents watch a lot.Read lessRead more

I hear ya because I have the same issue with my 82 year old infirm mum but the most irritating thing is most of the stuff she watches is available in HD on another channel number anyway and she has got a 55 inch Samsung curve telly in her room running off a Sky Q mini box as well as Freeview through the aerial but fear not in time I will get the message through to her eventually though

JB744 h, 8 m ago

I have the same TV, the 65k5510..... Looks absolutely stunning with decent …I have the same TV, the 65k5510..... Looks absolutely stunning with decent 4K content,only issue i've found is there's slight vertical banding on dark grey / blue backgrounds, but otherwise it's a brilliant set.have you had any similar issues with yours?Read lessRead more

Yes it’s common

Chasloyal1 h, 49 m ago

A quick search on Google says you can get Sky Q for an apple a month which …A quick search on Google says you can get Sky Q for an apple a month which works out 240 quid a year.I pay a pony a month for everything like the full package, all sports and movies and box sets, and have done for the last 18 months and have it locked down till September next year too so that's your mythical 300 quid annual figure there.Admittedly I pay an extra 12 quid a month on top to get multi room unlocking 4K/UHD in the process but it's my choice......unlike being forced to contribute 147 quid a year to the despicable liberal propaganda broadcasting corporation whether I want to or not!I hear ya because I have the same issue with my 82 year old infirm mum but the most irritating thing is most of the stuff she watches is available in HD on another channel number anyway and she has got a 55 inch Samsung curve telly in her room running off a Sky Q mini box as well as Freeview through the aerial but fear not in time I will get the message through to her eventually though Read lessRead more

Pony...Apple..... you are Dell Boy and I claim my £10

It says NO HDR in description so it cant be 10bit

spenspuma1 h, 0 m ago

Pony...Apple..... you are Dell Boy and I claim my £10

Grew up with calling sums of money by slang names long before only fools and horses you know