Hive 2 heating and hot water thermostat (no installation) £159.39 @ Amazon
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Hive 2 heating and hot water thermostat (no installation) £159.39 @ Amazon

£159.39Amazon Deals
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Found 25th Aug 2015
This is the new version of Hive heating and hot water control. This doesn't come with the professional installation however I'm not sure how difficult it is to do yourself.
Almost £100 cheaper than the same item with the installation included.

Product Description
Take control of your heating and hot water anytime, anywhere. Hive makes controlling your heating and hot water easy from your mobile, tablet or laptop. The next generation Hive brings you beautiful design, intuitive control and easy to use features.

Hive works no matter who supplies your energy. You can use Hive with your existing heating system and because you'll never need to heat an empty home again you could save up to GBP150 a year on your heating bills. Hive must be installed by a qualified engineer.

Features:
Heating and Hot water schedules - set up to 6 daily time slots
Heating and Hot water Boost - for up to six hours
Automatic Frost Protection - helps prevent frozen pipes
Geolocation - heating alerts when you leave or return home
Holiday Mode - tell Hive your holiday dates and come back to a warm welcome
Child lock - set a pin lock on your app or thermostat
Text control - send your command to Hive by text
Temperature graphs - keep track of how you are using your heating

Box Contains
1 x Hive thermostat
1 x Hub
1 x Receiver
1 x User guide and installation guide

29 Comments

Ahemmm, you could a get a nest for that price

Is Nest better?

Link please?
Edited by: "doublespresso" 25th Aug 2015

Original Poster

Pranga

Ahemmm, you could a get a nest for that price



​Cheapest I can see Nest for is £179.99.

doublespresso

Is Nest better?Link please?



Nest is definitly better for an extra 20 quid amazon.co.uk/Nes…est
Edited by: "Pranga" 25th Aug 2015

Original Poster

So you can't get the Nest for the same price then?

> Is Nest better?

Nope. Not today anyway. BG have done very well here. The companion products coming out soon will add to the ecosystem.

Google have no clear direction with the connected home. Maybe Brillo will add something, but I'm not holding my breath. Google doesn't succeed at everything it does.

spud131

So you can't get the Nest for the same price then?



http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nest-Learning-Thermostat-Brand-New-2nd-Gen-/151791346893?nav=SEARCH

Put an offer in for £152.40 then.

Shame the Nest doesn't control your hot water too. I'm leaning more towards the Hive - would be nice if they'd properly implement the geolocation though, rather than just text alerts.

I spent my cash on more insulation...cost me more... but the heating bill went way down

DJ Dunk

Shame the Nest doesn't control your hot water too. I'm leaning more … Shame the Nest doesn't control your hot water too. I'm leaning more towards the Hive - would be nice if they'd properly implement the geolocation though, rather than just text alerts.


Do you only need to control your hot water when you have a combi-boiler with the cylinder? I am not sure what's the benefits it will gives you if your boiler don't have the cylinder. Do you just use it to control water temperature?

BarmyBulldog

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nest-Learning-Thermostat-Brand-New-2nd-Gen-/151791346893?nav=SEARCHI wonder is it safe to get from this ebayer? Seems hard to get the warranty compare to Amazon...Put an offer in for £152.40 then.


terencetcf

Do you only need to control your hot water when you have a combi-boiler … Do you only need to control your hot water when you have a combi-boiler with the cylinder? I am not sure what's the benefits it will gives you if your boiler don't have the cylinder. Do you just use it to control water temperature?



If you have a combi, then you have hot water on demand, no need to program schedules for that.

I have a traditional boiler and cylinder, so need a device that covers heating and hot water scheduling. The Nest doesn't do this. I'd probably go with the Nest otherwise

Nest when I last looked did not control hot water - JUST heating .....

Correct

Most people now have combi boilers so no need for water function of Hive

Bradders9126

Most people now have combi boilers so no need for water function of Hive


If you have combi boiler + cylinder then the Hive probably make sense.

I think most in the UK still have conventional boilers but I don't have any figures. I like our conventional, gives us a very powerful shower and can run a bath in a few minutes. Plus an airing cupboard is handy. Tado and Honeywell evohome control hot water systems too. I have hive and think it's fantastic, not going to bother upgrading the thermostat to hive 2, the differences are purely cosmetic and we always control it from phone/tablet/PC anyway.

b33r

I think most in the UK still have conventional boilers but I don't have … I think most in the UK still have conventional boilers but I don't have any figures. I like our conventional, gives us a very powerful shower and can run a bath in a few minutes. Plus an airing cupboard is handy. Tado and Honeywell evohome control hot water systems too. I have hive and think it's fantastic, not going to bother upgrading the thermostat to hive 2, the differences are purely cosmetic and we always control it from phone/tablet/PC anyway.



With a combi you have on demand hot water (dont need to wait for a few minutes) and its not just good enough for a few baths it can go on for ever

The Tado is a better bit of kit
They are also upgrading so can control individual rads

Pranga

With a combi you have on demand hot water (dont need to wait for a few … With a combi you have on demand hot water (dont need to wait for a few minutes) and its not just good enough for a few baths it can go on for ever



If you run more than one shower and you'll soon see the short fall in hot water as demand outstrips supply.

My parents have one shower running off a Combi and it's not great - they oversized and replaced the mains water feed pipe in fear of this and still it's not great.

I went for a closed vented system tank and rather than combi based on this experience and glad I did - the shower runs as well as it did when we had a shower pump on the open vented system before.

Whilst the bill for heating water is higher than a combi in my closed vented system, it's only to the tune of about 50-60quid a year.

Pranga

With a combi you have on demand hot water (dont need to wait for a few … With a combi you have on demand hot water (dont need to wait for a few minutes) and its not just good enough for a few baths it can go on for ever



Sorry no I didn't mean have to wait a few minutes for the water, I meant can run the whole bath full of hot water in a couple of minutes, probably less. We had a combi at our last house and had to wait like 10-15 minutes to fill the bath it was so slow.

We can get two "events" out of a full tank, so two baths, two showers, or a bath and shower and they can happen concurrently and are very high pressure. Then takes about 35-45 minutes to reheat the tank (the boost function in Hive makes that very easy!)

Both have pro's and con's, I thought I'd hate it when we moved here as I'd only had combi boilers before but actually quite like it now and probably wouldn't switch back unless I had to.

I don't k ow the hive/nest setups but do the wave setup. Do the hive/nest alter water flow and modulate the flame for improved efficiency in the boilers (combi specifically) that are capable of this and temperature compensate for outside temp and hence heatloss?

Aside/ With combi boilers, if your water flow is not high enough you may need a bigger boiler which gives a greater water throughout. if you are trying to run of 28/30 or less boilers or shower plus anything then it will drop and not cope. two bathrooms needs a bigger boiler.

but these are not for hot water, they are for the central heating element of the systems be they combi, traditional or system boilers.

bensimmo

I don't k ow the hive/nest setups but do the wave setup. Do the … I don't k ow the hive/nest setups but do the wave setup. Do the hive/nest alter water flow and modulate the flame for improved efficiency in the boilers (combi specifically) that are capable of this and temperature compensate for outside temp and hence heatloss?Aside/ With combi boilers, if your water flow is not high enough you may need a bigger boiler which gives a greater water throughout. if you are trying to run of 28/30 or less boilers or shower plus anything then it will drop and not cope. two bathrooms needs a bigger boiler.but these are not for hot water, they are for the central heating element of the systems be they combi, traditional or system boilers.



Pranga

Ahemmm, you could a get a nest for that price


I could buy a Single Malt Whisky for less, it may warm me up but it won't help the hot water that won't be in my boiler.

terencetcf

Do you only need to control your hot water when you have a combi-boiler … Do you only need to control your hot water when you have a combi-boiler with the cylinder? I am not sure what's the benefits it will gives you if your boiler don't have the cylinder. Do you just use it to control water temperature?



​in a word, no. the controls on the boiler set the water temperature. opening the tap turns the hot water on. you would only use the heating control output if you have a combi boiler

Does anyone here have homecare and got Hive for £100 - heard it can be done, just wondering what to say to the engineer to get this?

Back in stock now at £160.17 (w prime)
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