Hive Active heating and hotwater with installation £159.99 @ Amazon
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Hive Active heating and hotwater with installation £159.99 @ Amazon

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This a good price for installation, but please be aware of issues that HIVE has when it comes to reaching a target temperature.

The HIVE designers have not used industry standard techniques to control the temperature intelligently, which results in overshoot every single time.

The HIVE system will not account for the fact that the radiators stay hot and heat the room/house even after the boiler is switched off.

This therefore only makes it ErP class I, as opposed to NEST which is ErP class IV

HIVE is missing technology known as TPI which can calculate how long the boiler needs to on to reach the temperature, intelligently switching it off before the room is actually at that temperature. This saves energy and maintains the set temperature with far greater accuracy and minimal overshoot.

See here for a good comparison of products.
hertsboilers.co.uk/con…htm

I have a HIVE and I wish someone told me that they do not use TPI before I bought it. I wrongly assumed they had incorporated standard practice in to the product!

Just google HIVE overshoot and you will see the problem.

I've not voted cold or hot, make your own mind up folks.
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Original Poster

If AO agrees to price match,this will be 129.99

Great price, I paid just under this from Amazon Warehouse. Couldn't be without it now.

AO have price matched it, along with saturday delivery for me.. lets see if they honor the £30 off too!

uksurfer2 m ago

AO have price matched it, along with saturday delivery for me.. lets see …AO have price matched it, along with saturday delivery for me.. lets see if they honor the £30 off too!


£30 off?

uksurfer6 m ago

AO have price matched it, along with saturday delivery for me.. lets see …AO have price matched it, along with saturday delivery for me.. lets see if they honor the £30 off too!


Did you contact them to price match? Still showing as 179.99 on website? £30 off is the cash back I guess? You might be lucky in that one!

I have a very new combi boiler with 7 day settings and wireless connection to the thermostat. What does this offer on top? Is it just Alexa integration (which I don't have) or is it smart and detect when your home and only switch on then?

RobynSellers16 m ago

Did you contact them to price match? Still showing as 179.99 on website? …Did you contact them to price match? Still showing as 179.99 on website? £30 off is the cash back I guess? You might be lucky in that one!


I phoned them on their price match line and it was the one with installation at £249 that they price matched. They do match other retailers offers.

Heres what I just found out via AO.

They will not price match Amazon (They did early this morning but have now been told to refuse) they do not match with the manufacturer - HIVE are selling them via Amazon. (depends who you get on the phone whether they will!)

They will not price match via Argos as it's a different product number.

BUT THEY WILL price match John Lewis which is £173.99 (same as Argos) as its listed as the same product number.
£30 cashback still eligible via a form after delivery

This a good price for installation, but please be aware of issues that HIVE has when it comes to reaching a target temperature.

The HIVE designers have not used industry standard techniques to control the temperature intelligently, which results in overshoot every single time.

The HIVE system will not account for the fact that the radiators stay hot and heat the room/house even after the boiler is switched off.

This therefore only makes it ErP class I, as opposed to NEST which is ErP class IV

HIVE is missing technology known as TPI which can calculate how long the boiler needs to on to reach the temperature, intelligently switching it off before the room is actually at that temperature. This saves energy and maintains the set temperature with far greater accuracy and minimal overshoot.

See here for a good comparison of products.
hertsboilers.co.uk/con…htm

I have a HIVE and I wish someone told me that they do not use TPI before I bought it. I wrongly assumed they had incorporated standard practice in to the product!

Just google HIVE overshoot and you will see the problem.

I've not voted cold or hot, make your own mind up folks.

Fredi142841 m ago

Heres what I just found out via AO.They will not price match Amazon (They …Heres what I just found out via AO.They will not price match Amazon (They did early this morning but have now been told to refuse) they do not match with the manufacturer - HIVE are selling them via Amazon. (depends who you get on the phone whether they will!)They will not price match via Argos as it's a different product number.BUT THEY WILL price match John Lewis which is £173.99 (same as Argos) as its listed as the same product number.£30 cashback still eligible via a form after delivery



Says on their site they price match Amazon

merb07863 m ago

Says on their site they price match Amazon


I know, but they price match the SELLER via amazon. And the seller on Amazon for that deal is HIVE and they said they cannot price match with the direct manufacturer.
Some people managed to slip through the net and bag the deal this morning, I rang up, the woman wouldnt let me do it. Rang again, and the man said their boss had literally walked in 20 minutes ago and told the team not to price match with Amazon. Im only reporting what I was told to help people get the John Lewis deal instead.

No appointments where i am

I was told 55 day wait

Fredi142821 m ago

I know, but they price match the SELLER via amazon. And the seller on …I know, but they price match the SELLER via amazon. And the seller on Amazon for that deal is HIVE and they said they cannot price match with the direct manufacturer. Some people managed to slip through the net and bag the deal this morning, I rang up, the woman wouldnt let me do it. Rang again, and the man said their boss had literally walked in 20 minutes ago and told the team not to price match with Amazon. Im only reporting what I was told to help people get the John Lewis deal instead.



Just got a price match.

merb07862 m ago

Just got a price match.


good for you.
Like I said previously, depends who you get on the phone

Very also have this on for £169.99 with BNPL for 12 months

Original Poster

tek-monkey12 h, 31 m ago

£30 off?



initially AO had additional £30 cash back on hive products but now they have removed professional install products from that offer.

Zed21317th Nov

This a good price for installation, but please be aware of issues that …This a good price for installation, but please be aware of issues that HIVE has when it comes to reaching a target temperature. The HIVE designers have not used industry standard techniques to control the temperature intelligently, which results in overshoot every single time. The HIVE system will not account for the fact that the radiators stay hot and heat the room/house even after the boiler is switched off. This therefore only makes it ErP class I, as opposed to NEST which is ErP class IVHIVE is missing technology known as TPI which can calculate how long the boiler needs to on to reach the temperature, intelligently switching it off before the room is actually at that temperature. This saves energy and maintains the set temperature with far greater accuracy and minimal overshoot.See here for a good comparison of products. http://www.hertsboilers.co.uk/controls.htmI have a HIVE and I wish someone told me that they do not use TPI before I bought it. I wrongly assumed they had incorporated standard practice in to the product!Just google HIVE overshoot and you will see the problem.I've not voted cold or hot, make your own mind up folks.


All this TPI VOLTRON OVERSHOOT nonsense. If it's that much of a problem just boost for a period of time such as 1 hour instead of aiming for a temperature. I prefer to use it this way myself.

phil1617th Nov

I have a very new combi boiler with 7 day settings and wireless connection …I have a very new combi boiler with 7 day settings and wireless connection to the thermostat. What does this offer on top? Is it just Alexa integration (which I don't have) or is it smart and detect when your home and only switch on then?


You can control your boiler fully via the internet i.e. from your phone when you are out and about using the app or even texting it to turn on and off. I find it very useful and cost saving. You can connect other Hive devices such as light bulbs and plugs too but I have no great need for those currently.

Just checked my usage and last October I used 853 kwh gas and this October only 285 kwh. Obviously its difficult to compare like for like due to different weather conditions etc but as I live alone and do odd shifts this setup works for me. I tend to switch it on and off manually rather than faff about rescheduling to coincide with my shifts all the time.For a normal 9-5 family it probably wouldn't be so useful but I know now that I'm never heating an empty home - but I can check on the temp indoors at anytime and turn it on if it does get really cold.

This is a great price btw. Heat ! (and hot water ! )

Mine is the third review down on amazon ( Hive for Noobs ) , give me vote if you like it
Edited by: "tallpete33" 19th Nov
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