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Hive Active Light B22 £13.99 Prime or £17.98 non prime @ Amazon
Hive Active Light B22 £13.99 Prime or £17.98 non prime @ Amazon

Hive Active Light B22 £13.99 Prime or £17.98 non prime @ Amazon

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Great for those with Hive active heating hub, and a B22 bayonet light fitting.

Unfortunately I got Nest

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The screw fitting ones are same price and the colour ones are reduced to 29.99 instead of £44, cheers op, hot deal!

Do these work with hue

to these work with tado ?

ramit

Do these work with hue



GoldSquid

to these work with tado ?



No, they don't work with *insert any other smart home system other than hive here* system either.
Edited by: "b33r" 21st Nov 2016

Ordered two, cheers! Now just to wait for an Echo/Echo Dot deal on Friday...

Do these really unpair if switched off? Few reviews mention it not ??

cigbunt

Do these really unpair if switched off? Few reviews mention it not ??



Mine go offline if the power is cut to them, e.g you use the wall switch to turn em off but they turn on instantly when u put the switch back on and then come back online in the app quite quickly

ramit

Do these work with hue

GoldSquid

to these work with tado ?



Actually, the answer is not binary.

These bulbs are ZigBee HA1.2 compatible. I can confirm they work with Samsung SmartThings (without the Hive Hub); simply add thing, then in the SmartThings IDE change the device type to ZLL Dimmer Bulb, ZLL White Color Temp, ZLL RGBA (depending on model purchased). They will probably also work with other ZigBee HA1.2 compatible home systems. Hue hub does have this, but since I don't own one I can't confirm nor deny whether it is possible to pair these with the Hue hub.

So basically, if the system you use is compatible with ZigBee HA1.2, and can be tweaked to accept these then yes, they're compatible.

The Hive Hub is only required to provide the App/WiFi to ZigBee link. So if you have something that is able to "speak" ZigBee already, then these may just work directly.

Edited by: "jazlabs" 22nd Nov 2016

jazlabs

Actually, the answer is not binary. These bulbs are ZigBee HA1.2 … Actually, the answer is not binary. These bulbs are ZigBee HA1.2 compatible. I can confirm they work with Samsung SmartThings (without the Hive Hub); simply add thing, then in the SmartThings IDE change the device type to ZLL Dimmer Bulb, ZLL White Color Temp, ZLL RGBA (depending on model purchased). They will probably also work with other ZigBee HA1.2 compatible home systems. Hue hub does have this, but since I don't own one I can't confirm nor deny whether it is possible to pair these with the Hue hub.So basically, if the system you use is compatible with ZigBee HA1.2, and can be tweaked to accept these then yes, they're compatible.The Hive Hub is only required to provide the App/WiFi to ZigBee link. So if you have something that is able to "speak" ZigBee already, then these may just work directly.



Interesting, TIL. I take back what I said then.

jazlabs

Actually, the answer is not binary. These bulbs are ZigBee HA1.2 … Actually, the answer is not binary. These bulbs are ZigBee HA1.2 compatible. I can confirm they work with Samsung SmartThings (without the Hive Hub); simply add thing, then in the SmartThings IDE change the device type to ZLL Dimmer Bulb, ZLL White Color Temp, ZLL RGBA (depending on model purchased). They will probably also work with other ZigBee HA1.2 compatible home systems. Hue hub does have this, but since I don't own one I can't confirm nor deny whether it is possible to pair these with the Hue hub.So basically, if the system you use is compatible with ZigBee HA1.2, and can be tweaked to accept these then yes, they're compatible.The Hive Hub is only required to provide the App/WiFi to ZigBee link. So if you have something that is able to "speak" ZigBee already, then these may just work directly.



​thanks for the knowledge / insight!!!

I just have the freebie hive set up from BG but appreciate your contribution

THANKS

I have Hive Active Heating system in my home. If I replace my living room light bulb with one of these, would it mean that every time the family wanted to turn the light on or off, they'd be forbidden from touching the light switch and, instead, they would have to ask me to turn it on or off using the Hive app on my phone?

qwerta369

I have Hive Active Heating system in my home. If I replace my living room … I have Hive Active Heating system in my home. If I replace my living room light bulb with one of these, would it mean that every time the family wanted to turn the light on or off, they'd be forbidden from touching the light switch and, instead, they would have to ask me to turn it on or off using the Hive app on my phone?



They can still turn it off and on using the switch however if it has been turned off at the switch then it will show as offline in the app so you wouldn't be able to turn it on with the app

b33r

They can still turn it off and on using the switch however if it has been … They can still turn it off and on using the switch however if it has been turned off at the switch then it will show as offline in the app so you wouldn't be able to turn it on with the app


Right, thanks for confirming. So if the family turn the light off by flicking the switch, like normal people, the bulb disconnects from Hive and I have no access. Pretty obvious really. Also a pretty obvious flaw in the product. Oh well..

qwerta369

Right, thanks for confirming. So if the family turn the light off by … Right, thanks for confirming. So if the family turn the light off by flicking the switch, like normal people, the bulb disconnects from Hive and I have no access. Pretty obvious really. Also a pretty obvious flaw in the product. Oh well..



It is a flaw I agree but the way we use them it doesn't particularly bother us or cause a problem. Unless you have a better idea I guess the only way to solve it is smart switches but the problem with that is most people probably wouldn't want to change the light switches themselves and there would be extra levels of complication with all the different types of switches (single, double, dimmers, sizes, switches in two places for the same light etc.)

b33r

It is a flaw I agree but the way we use them it doesn't particularly … It is a flaw I agree but the way we use them it doesn't particularly bother us or cause a problem. Unless you have a better idea I guess the only way to solve it is smart switches but the problem with that is most people probably wouldn't want to change the light switches themselves and there would be extra levels of complication with all the different types of switches (single, double, dimmers, sizes, switches in two places for the same light etc.)


I think smart switches are definitely the solution, and really it's what Hive should have launched, rather than smart bulbs. It's like they haven't thought it through.

Anyone who just bought the bulb ...does Alexa/Echo work with the bulb alone plz ? TY

qwerta369

Right, thanks for confirming. So if the family turn the light off by … Right, thanks for confirming. So if the family turn the light off by flicking the switch, like normal people, the bulb disconnects from Hive and I have no access. Pretty obvious really. Also a pretty obvious flaw in the product. Oh well..


surely all smart lights have this problem?

Smart switches are the solution, but they would need installation I guess.

cigbunt

surely all smart lights have this problem?



Yes, I'm suspect so. Right now I'm struggling to understand why smart bulbs are plentiful but smart switches are not. The latter solves the problem while the former, I'm very sure, would cause inconvenience and frustration (certainly in our house anyway!).

qwerta369

Yes, I'm suspect so. Right now I'm struggling to understand why smart … Yes, I'm suspect so. Right now I'm struggling to understand why smart bulbs are plentiful but smart switches are not. The latter solves the problem while the former, I'm very sure, would cause inconvenience and frustration (certainly in our house anyway!).


depends where you put them and who you live with.. remember smart lights are adjustable too

qwerta369

Yes, I'm suspect so. Right now I'm struggling to understand why smart … Yes, I'm suspect so. Right now I'm struggling to understand why smart bulbs are plentiful but smart switches are not. The latter solves the problem while the former, I'm very sure, would cause inconvenience and frustration (certainly in our house anyway!).



It's purely cost and that a "regular person" wouldn't have a clue how to replace a light switch. Smart switches are available if you want some!

These are slightly cheaper at £13.33 in Argos if you're prepared to wait 5 days or your store has them in stock.

b33r

It's purely cost and that a "regular person" wouldn't have a clue how to … It's purely cost and that a "regular person" wouldn't have a clue how to replace a light switch. Smart switches are available if you want some!


Come on man, there's no need for LMGTFYs.. I know smart switches exist, but not "Hive" smart switches.

qwerta369

Come on man, there's no need for LMGTFYs.. I know smart switches exist, … Come on man, there's no need for LMGTFYs.. I know smart switches exist, but not "Hive" smart switches.



Haha sorry. You seemed to be struggling with why smart switches aren't more widespread. Using a hacked amazon dash button and calling the hive (alertme) API you could quite easily build a 'smart switch' for hive if you wanted to

b33r

Haha sorry. You seemed to be struggling with why smart switches aren't … Haha sorry. You seemed to be struggling with why smart switches aren't more widespread. Using a hacked amazon dash button and calling the hive (alertme) API you could quite easily build a 'smart switch' for hive if you wanted to


Now that interests me! Have you tried it?

qwerta369

Now that interests me! Have you tried it?



I've played around calling the Hive API using a chrome add in and hacked a dash button and detected the ARP request on the network but haven't hooked up the two yet. You't need something like a PI zero that's always on on the network to hook the two together, probably with a little bit of python code. Hive is also on IFTTT and Alexa so other events could be utilised to control the lights, plugs heating etc.

Edited by: "b33r" 25th Nov 2016

Interesting stuff! If time permits I might investigate further. Thanks for sharing.

qwerta369

Interesting stuff! If time permits I might investigate further. Thanks … Interesting stuff! If time permits I might investigate further. Thanks for sharing.



No probs, time is the limiting factor for me too lol

I have bought the bulb, but I just use it in the hall; for when we go out and there are no lights on, I can just switch it on at the wall and using the app turn it off and if I'm out when it goes dark, I can put the light on. It was more for my wife really, so she felt a bit more safe, when coming home to an empty house. I'm thinking of buying another one or the plug. I have the Hive system from British Gas.

Hi I wanted to know the light is 9 watt but if I dim it to 50% will it be consuming 4.5 watt?

Also does it use any power while it is on standby?

Couldn't find this info online.

Thanks.
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