Hive Radiator Valve X5 - £199 @ Hivehome - Pre-Order for  delivery 29/05/2019
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Hive Radiator Valve X5 - £199 @ Hivehome - Pre-Order for delivery 29/05/2019

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Posted 8th MayEdited by:"lukefez"
£199 for 5
£139 for 3
£54 for 1
These are pre Order for delivery 29th May
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Use smart home technology to set the temperature in your home room-by-room with a Hive Radiator Valve.

Installation You can install Hive Radiator Valves yourself and they come with a simple step-by-step guide that makes it really easy. But first things first: please use our compatibility checker below to make sure our Hive Radiator Valves will work with your system.

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Why are there so many people concerned with why others might want to buy these?

If you dont see a point or reason for them then they clearly arent for you and carry on move along, sitting in the corner of the thread telling others that they dont need them as well is ignorance and arrogance at its best.

No one needs to justify to anyone else why they want or need something, and no one needs to be rude or aggressive about why they feel their opinion is the right one.


Now for the Product,

These would be great for me, the Mrs gets cold easy and puts the heating on and the rest of the house heats up, would be great to just heat the room she is in, and let the rest of us not suffer thermal meltdown, but I am not sure about the price just yet, maybe if it were £20 a Valve Id be more comfortable at fitting them around the house.
Edited by: "MrSprkle" 8th May
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Deedie08/05/2019 20:00

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I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for these, you could have got ordinary thermostatic valves for £11 a pop? Most normal people just set these once in their lifetime to the temperature they require and then leave then alone.

However, since you already have to have thermostatic valves (see the compatabilty checker) to use these, you already have 99% of the utility. The abilty to diddle, pointlessly, with these on your phone cannot possibly be worth £50 per radiator!
Edited by: "pete_l" 8th May
PhilipGregson08/05/2019 22:17

Unnecessary, never ever be cost effective. Spend it on insulation, put …Unnecessary, never ever be cost effective. Spend it on insulation, put it towards your energy bill.


I have insulation. I'd rather save energy instead of wasting it and paying for it. My house has four bedrooms over two floors, which makes up one of our dual heating zones. To heat the one bedroom of my daughter's when she wants to spend time there means heating the whole of that zone, unless I go around turning all other radiators down manually, which I'm unlikely to do, even if I'm home to do it. That's just one consideration that leads me to wanting individually programmable smart TRVs as part of my smart heating setup. If that hadn't occurred to you at all, then that's another pointless 16 words you've contributed to this thread.
Edited by: "Pokey" 8th May
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What temperature does everyone like their rooms to be? I aim for between 18 and 20.
Do I need a Hive hub if I don't want to control the temperature via my smartphone? I.e. can I just use the Hive Valve to adjust without Hub?
mirzda08/05/2019 19:41

Do I need a Hive hub if I don't want to control the temperature via my …Do I need a Hive hub if I don't want to control the temperature via my smartphone? I.e. can I just use the Hive Valve to adjust without Hub?


You need the hub
mirzda08/05/2019 19:41

Do I need a Hive hub if I don't want to control the temperature via my …Do I need a Hive hub if I don't want to control the temperature via my smartphone? I.e. can I just use the Hive Valve to adjust without Hub?


On their compatability checker it says you need the Hive hub.
Thank you
pete_l08/05/2019 19:51

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Are you trying to be a comedian? I have the Tado's upstairs, got them on a good deal. They have paid themselves off.
Thanks for the head ups, been waiting a long time for hive to make these!
Edited by: "KCooperman" 8th May
I like the idea. We don't like warm bedrooms so those rads are always off, the rest of the house is regulated via the main room stat. Also unless you have all doors closed you'll natrually get stratification
Edited by: "malcoa" 8th May
So how do these work as the site not much info, do you set a temp for each radiator and the hub maintains that as opposed to one temp for all the house
How would these work with the hive thermostat. Or would I simply stop using that if the radiators all have individual valves?
obsydian08/05/2019 20:05

So how do these work as the site not much info, do you set a temp for each …So how do these work as the site not much info, do you set a temp for each radiator and the hub maintains that as opposed to one temp for all the house


Yes, each radiator can call for heat instead of just the themostat
This is the RRP, hopefully there will be offers around the corner....You need TRV's for them to work as well (which is the analogue version of these). You need to factor this cost if you have normal valves on your rads.
Edited by: "dré." 8th May
ministrymason08/05/2019 20:08

How would these work with the hive thermostat. Or would I simply stop …How would these work with the hive thermostat. Or would I simply stop using that if the radiators all have individual valves?


Usually you wouldn't have a TRV fitted in the room with the themostat, so I'd assume it would just control that radiator, and any others that don't have one of these fitted.
Deedie08/05/2019 20:00

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I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for these, you could have got ordinary thermostatic valves for £11 a pop? Most normal people just set these once in their lifetime to the temperature they require and then leave then alone.

However, since you already have to have thermostatic valves (see the compatabilty checker) to use these, you already have 99% of the utility. The abilty to diddle, pointlessly, with these on your phone cannot possibly be worth £50 per radiator!
Edited by: "pete_l" 8th May
pete_l08/05/2019 20:15

I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for …I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for these, you could have got ordinary thermostatic valves for £11 a pop? Most normal people just set these once in their lifetime to the temperature they require and then leave then alone.However, since you already have to have thermostatic valves (see the compatabilty checker) to use these, you already have 99% of the utility. The abilty to diddle, pointlessly, with these on your phone cannot possibly be worth £50 per radiator!


This may come as a bit of a surprise to you. But I got rid of the normal valves, for the exact reason you claim is your reason for keeping them.
KCooperman08/05/2019 20:19

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Duuuuuh! by not having the central heating on when you aren't there - genius?
pete_l08/05/2019 20:15

I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for …I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for these, you could have got ordinary thermostatic valves for £11 a pop? Most normal people just set these once in their lifetime to the temperature they require and then leave then alone.However, since you already have to have thermostatic valves (see the compatabilty checker) to use these, you already have 99% of the utility. The abilty to diddle, pointlessly, with these on your phone cannot possibly be worth £50 per radiator!


Yeah, whatever anyone thinks about the price of tne Hive TRVs, you really don't know what you're talking about. My radiators have regular TRVs. They are going to be replaced with these because of how much more control they will give me over my heating.
Edited by: "Pokey" 8th May
Was tempted to buy these but waiting for reviews to see how they perform.
GlesgaNed08/05/2019 20:28

Was tempted to buy these but waiting for reviews to see how they perform.



If they are anything like the Hub 360, it will be an epic fail
obsydian08/05/2019 20:05

So how do these work as the site not much info, do you set a temp for each …So how do these work as the site not much info, do you set a temp for each radiator and the hub maintains that as opposed to one temp for all the house


Here is a tip if you decide to go for some of them. Don't put them in the coldest rooms and as already mentioned, not where your thermostat is located.

When one of these detects the room is cooler than the target then it will turn on your heating, a cold room like a kitchen will want to draw upon the heater more often.

So target upstairs first because heat rises through the floor, that means the upstairs rooms will shutdown the radiator much sooner if these are in them. The remaining radiators then get a higher share of the output of your boiler, and they will reach temperature quicker when the thermostat eventually requests heat again later and the water in the system will not cool down as easily.

We will eventually get two more for two of our downstairs rooms, and contradictory to what I said another again for our kitchen... but we are going to buy a new door and windows for that room first after the summer warmth has passed. A will insulated kitchen will be fine for a Smart TRV but that is a fairly rare occurrence so I will assume yours is like most others peoples and mine, fairly cold compared to everywhere else.

But like I said, generally you want to start with your warmest rooms so that these Smart TRVs can shutdown those radiators early and also make sure they are warmed up with the rest so they don't suck the heat out of the rest of your home. After that, you can keep targeting the next warmest rooms until you are happy you have enough.

BUT DONT FORGET TO SIGN UP FOR GOV'T INSULATION SCHEMES!

Together smart heating and better heat retaining efficiency will take a huge chunk of your heating bill. :-)
Edited by: "Slurrpy" 8th May
These are useful for those who are homeworkers, or housebound due to disability/ old age etc, some people don't want their bedroom heated up during a cold day when they spend all their day time just in the lounge etc, but want a nice comfortable heated lounge. Or you could be ill one day and don't want the lounge heated whilst you rest in the bedroom which you want heated etc... there are lots of scenarios which these can be of use. Eventually these will pay for themselves over the years, and hopefully you pick them up cheaper when they are offers i.e amazon sales, hive sales etc.
GlesgaNed08/05/2019 20:28

Was tempted to buy these but waiting for reviews to see how they perform.


Their timing stinks, really. It's the beginning of summer (allegedly). Most can wait until the autumn and there's likely to be a 20% discount offer at some time. No point ordering now.
Pokey08/05/2019 21:14

Their timing stinks, really. It's the beginning of summer (allegedly). …Their timing stinks, really. It's the beginning of summer (allegedly). Most can wait until the autumn and there's likely to be a 20% discount offer at some time. No point ordering now.



You could still get them...they wont spoil.. honest!.
polarbaba08/05/2019 21:34

You could still get them...they wont spoil.. honest!.


Will wait until I need them or until they can be bought for less, whichever comes first.
Edited by: "Pokey" 8th May
Pokey08/05/2019 21:56

Will wait until I need them or until they can be bought for less, …Will wait until I need them or until they can be bought for less, whichever comes first.


I have a hive setup for my boiler, so I will also be waiting for them to be sold at a far more reasonable price where I will actually actually get cost savings due to not paying silly money to save a few quid!.
Unnecessary, never ever be cost effective. Spend it on insulation, put it towards your energy bill.
Slurrpy08/05/2019 21:04

Here is a tip if you decide to go for some of them. Don't put them in the …Here is a tip if you decide to go for some of them. Don't put them in the coldest rooms and as already mentioned, not where your thermostat is located.When one of these detects the room is cooler than the target then it will turn on your heating, a cold room like a kitchen will want to draw upon the heater more often.So target upstairs first because heat rises through the floor, that means the upstairs rooms will shutdown the radiator much sooner if these are in them. The remaining radiators then get a higher share of the output of your boiler, and they will reach temperature quicker when the thermostat eventually requests heat again later and the water in the system will not cool down as easily.We will eventually get two more for two of our downstairs rooms, and contradictory to what I said another again for our kitchen... but we are going to buy a new door and windows for that room first after the summer warmth has passed. A will insulated kitchen will be fine for a Smart TRV but that is a fairly rare occurrence so I will assume yours is like most others peoples and mine, fairly cold compared to everywhere else. But like I said, generally you want to start with your warmest rooms so that these Smart TRVs can shutdown those radiators early and also make sure they are warmed up with the rest so they don't suck the heat out of the rest of your home. After that, you can keep targeting the next warmest rooms until you are happy you have enough.BUT DONT FORGET TO SIGN UP FOR GOV'T INSULATION SCHEMES!Together smart heating and better heat retaining efficiency will take a huge chunk of your heating bill. :-)


What government insulation schemes?
pete_l08/05/2019 20:15

I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for …I don't suppose anyone ever told you that instead of paying £66 each for these, you could have got ordinary thermostatic valves for £11 a pop? Most normal people just set these once in their lifetime to the temperature they require and then leave then alone.However, since you already have to have thermostatic valves (see the compatabilty checker) to use these, you already have 99% of the utility. The abilty to diddle, pointlessly, with these on your phone cannot possibly be worth £50 per radiator!


Why would you pay £66 each when you can buy one for £54 (or 3 for £139 or 5 for £199)?

Probably best to actaully read the deal before commenting next time. There weren't that many words.
Maybe if they were £10 each I might be interested but the price is a joke for something that is set once and forgotten about.
Why are there so many people concerned with why others might want to buy these?

If you dont see a point or reason for them then they clearly arent for you and carry on move along, sitting in the corner of the thread telling others that they dont need them as well is ignorance and arrogance at its best.

No one needs to justify to anyone else why they want or need something, and no one needs to be rude or aggressive about why they feel their opinion is the right one.


Now for the Product,

These would be great for me, the Mrs gets cold easy and puts the heating on and the rest of the house heats up, would be great to just heat the room she is in, and let the rest of us not suffer thermal meltdown, but I am not sure about the price just yet, maybe if it were £20 a Valve Id be more comfortable at fitting them around the house.
Edited by: "MrSprkle" 8th May
PhilipGregson08/05/2019 22:17

Unnecessary, never ever be cost effective. Spend it on insulation, put …Unnecessary, never ever be cost effective. Spend it on insulation, put it towards your energy bill.


I have insulation. I'd rather save energy instead of wasting it and paying for it. My house has four bedrooms over two floors, which makes up one of our dual heating zones. To heat the one bedroom of my daughter's when she wants to spend time there means heating the whole of that zone, unless I go around turning all other radiators down manually, which I'm unlikely to do, even if I'm home to do it. That's just one consideration that leads me to wanting individually programmable smart TRVs as part of my smart heating setup. If that hadn't occurred to you at all, then that's another pointless 16 words you've contributed to this thread.
Edited by: "Pokey" 8th May
pete_l08/05/2019 19:51

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Clearly a comment from someone who has no idea of how much these types of valves can save you. In addition to saving money they stop valves from sticking and needing replacing and help reduce energy usage so helping the planet. The folk who advocate not fitting valves are actually the ones with more money than sense.
If they are as unreliable as their thermostat I'll give them a miss. I've had more problems with my thermostat than any other tech product I've ever bought.
Sephiroth08/05/2019 23:07

If they are as unreliable as their thermostat I'll give them a miss. I've …If they are as unreliable as their thermostat I'll give them a miss. I've had more problems with my thermostat than any other tech product I've ever bought.


What kind of issues do you get? I installed mine 2 1/2 years ago and have had no problems at all.

I'm quite interested in these, but I need to replace all my TRVs upstairs first (they're over 20 years old and the seals are going).
Sephiroth08/05/2019 23:07

If they are as unreliable as their thermostat I'll give them a miss. I've …If they are as unreliable as their thermostat I'll give them a miss. I've had more problems with my thermostat than any other tech product I've ever bought.


What were the issues? Only issue with Hive I had (I have had Hive since it first came out) was the 2nd gen thermostat started to use batteries far quicker than usual so I reported it to Hive and they sent me a brand new replacement unit for free - brilliant
LiGhTfasT08/05/2019 22:50

Maybe if they were £10 each I might be interested but the price is a joke …Maybe if they were £10 each I might be interested but the price is a joke for something that is set once and forgotten about.


The whole point of this is for someone who could do with changing them to optimise the heating to where it's needed.
For example I work from home sometimes and in the daytime I don't need any heat in the rooms, except my office.
In the evenings when my kids come home then we can heat up the downstairs , and then later warm up the bedrooms in the night and mornings.
I would want the price to come down quite a bit before I bite.
chris_p08/05/2019 22:36

What government insulation schemes?


Every now and then there are government schemes for companies to make homes more efficient regarding heat loss, I got my walls and attic insulated for free by British Gas thanks to this.

Keep an eye out on Martin Lewis's Money Saving Expert website as he follows this sort of thing.
speedbird74709/05/2019 00:29

What were the issues? Only issue with Hive I had (I have had Hive since it …What were the issues? Only issue with Hive I had (I have had Hive since it first came out) was the 2nd gen thermostat started to use batteries far quicker than usual so I reported it to Hive and they sent me a brand new replacement unit for free - brilliant


First one bricked itself within a couple of weeks, had to get replacement. Second one keeps losing connection to the hub/receiver. Had to factory reset it at least three times. Only had it since November. Admittedly it has been more stable over the past few months apart from the Hive outage last month that affected everyone. It doesn't fill me with confidence over Hive products though.
When nest will come with same solution?
This is very useful as our conservatory is always too cold during the winter... Instead of using additional electric heaters, this would save fortune... However i will wait for the price to come down... Thanks op... Heat 🔥
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