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Holland & Barrett: buy one get one for penny deal on Manuka Pharm Active Manuka Honey 24+. Now £15.50 each. Was £30.99 - Free c&c
Holland & Barrett: buy one get one for penny deal on Manuka Pharm Active Manuka Honey 24+. Now £15.50 each. Was £30.99 - Free c&c

Holland & Barrett: buy one get one for penny deal on Manuka Pharm Active Manuka Honey 24+. Now £15.50 each. Was £30.99 - Free c&c

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Manuka Pharm Active Manuka Honey 24+. Now £31 for 2, or £15.50 each. Was £30.99 for one.

Description

100% New Zealand honey with 24+ activity rating

Add to cereal, yoghurts, toast, porridge, hot drinks, or enjoy straight from the jar

Manuka Pharm Active Manuka Honey 24+ is TA (Total Active) honey which has been tested by a certified independent laboratory for its total activity. This predominantly relates to the levels of naturally occurring Peroxide Activity.

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So is it 15.50 for one then one for penny, saying £30.99 online

This is total activity and not umf which is the approved standard. Please avoid!

No evidence of effectiveness vs placebo = waste of money.
Same as 99% of supplements and "alternative" therapies.
I'm always amazed by how much people with pay an osteopath/chiropractor/herbalist etc etc to receive "treatments" with no evidence, and yet kick off when I tell them they'll have to buy something evidence based OTC or pay a prescription charge. Why is it actual medicine is the only thing the vast majority of people seem not to value?! #RantOver

I ate so much of this stuff once, I turned into a bear.

Find a local bee keeper and buy their raw honey. It'll be a lot cheaper, more effective and you'll be supporting the local bee keepers.

Original Poster

xtreme123

This is total activity and not umf which is the approved standard. Please … This is total activity and not umf which is the approved standard. Please avoid!



It's still good quality at a good price.
Edited by: "jennislattery" 21st Dec 2016

Original Poster

everypennycounts

So is it 15.50 for one then one for penny, saying £30.99 online



Was £30.99 for only 1 jar. This offer allows you to buy one more for just 1p. Therefore total price for 2 jars is £30.99+£0.01=£31. Divide by 2 implies £15.50 per jar. But only if you buy 2 jars. Hope that explains it?

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stave84

No evidence of effectiveness vs placebo = waste of money.Same as 99% of … No evidence of effectiveness vs placebo = waste of money.Same as 99% of supplements and "alternative" therapies.I'm always amazed by how much people with pay an osteopath/chiropractor/herbalist etc etc to receive "treatments" with no evidence, and yet kick off when I tell them they'll have to buy something evidence based OTC or pay a prescription charge. Why is it actual medicine is the only thing the vast majority of people seem not to value?! #RantOver



Honey has been known to have extremely positive health benefits across all cultures and over millennia.

More and more the evidence coming to the fore is contrary to your claims. "Actual medicine" as you call it has now been proven to be a vehicle for generating pharma profits, not treat patients. Their side effects result in patients having to buy even more drugs from the same or related pharma. In other words increase revenue and profits for them. Allopathic medicine is reactive, not preventative like natural treatments and foods. For eg honey, turmeric, Vitamin C are excellent ways of preventing many illnesses. I would rather prevent, than fall sick first and then have to go and buy expensive medicine with terrible side effects.

You can google it. Have a great day.
Edited by: "jennislattery" 22nd Dec 2016

...honey, turmeric, Vitamin C are excellent ways of preventing many … ...honey, turmeric, Vitamin C are excellent ways of preventing many illnesses.



Like what???

jennislattery

Honey has been known to have extremely positive health benefits across … Honey has been known to have extremely positive health benefits across all cultures and over millennia. More and more the evidence coming to the fore is contrary to your claims. "Actual medicine" as you call it has now been proven to be a vehicle for generating pharma profits, not treat patients. Their side effects result in patients having to buy even more drugs from the same or related pharma. In other words increase revenue and profits for them. Allopathic medicine is reactive, not preventative like natural treatments and foods. For eg honey, turmeric, Vitamin C are excellent ways of preventing many illnesses. I would rather prevent, than fall sick first and then have to go and buy expensive medicine with terrible side effects. You can google it. Have a great day.



"Honey has been known to have..." please provide peer review randomised controlled trials or appropriate meta-analysis data to support your claim.
People "have been known" to survive sky diving without a working parachute, or being stabbed in the head, but I wouldn't advise people try it on the basis of anecdotal evidence.
My medical degree trumps your google search.

Original Poster

stave84

"Honey has been known to have..." please provide peer review randomised … "Honey has been known to have..." please provide peer review randomised controlled trials or appropriate meta-analysis data to support your claim.People "have been known" to survive sky diving without a working parachute, or being stabbed in the head, but I wouldn't advise people try it on the basis of anecdotal evidence.My medical degree trumps your google search.



Ha ha! Perfect bias against alternative medical treatments and philosophy, that can only come from someone holding a "modern" medical degree. Not surprising as medical students receive little nutritional training.

No doubt you would also disregard alternative treatments based on Chinese and Ayurvedic medicine? After all, they don't meet your criteria of "peer review randomised controlled trials or appropriate meta-analysis data..."! Instead they only have a couple of millenia's worth of empirical evidence that they work. Sorry, old chap. Your assertion is not based on any scientific comparison.

You can Google many studies and scientific discussions on this topic. Here is one more link:

Study: Manuka honey kills more bacteria than all available antibiotics
naturalnews.com/201…tml




Instead they only have a couple of millenia's worth of empirical evidence … Instead they only have a couple of millenia's worth of empirical evidence that they work.



No they don't!

To anyone thinking of tacking advice from NaturalNews.com, I read the following on rationalwiki.org,

NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget, which is now a separate site) is a … NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget, which is now a separate site) is a website run by Mike Adams (self-labeled "The Health Ranger") which promotes alternative medicine and related conspiracy theories and attacks on science. Even other quacks think it's a quack site.


jennislattery

Ha ha! Perfect bias against alternative medical treatments and … Ha ha! Perfect bias against alternative medical treatments and philosophy, that can only come from someone holding a "modern" medical degree. Not surprising as medical students receive little nutritional training.No doubt you would also disregard alternative treatments based on Chinese and Ayurvedic medicine? After all, they don't meet your criteria of "peer review randomised controlled trials or appropriate meta-analysis data..."! Instead they only have a couple of millenia's worth of empirical evidence that they work. Sorry, old chap. Your assertion is not based on any scientific comparison. You can Google many studies and scientific discussions on this topic. Here is one more link:Study: Manuka honey kills more bacteria than all available antibioticshttp://www.naturalnews.com/2016-12-20-study-manuka-honey-kills-more-bacteria-than-all-antibiotics-available.html



I'm not going to start arguing with an idiot. Chess with a pigeon comes to mind.
Natural news is about as reliable as the daily mail, or worse! You are welcome to hold your beliefs and have faith in whatever you like but don't sit there lying to other HUKD users.
By all means rely on whatever alternative rubbish you choose but any bet when your child/parent/friend is dying in your arms you rely on me and my colleagues and not your herbalist or homeopath. I've saved more lives than you've had hot dinners & I've done that using "modern medicine" not waving a sodding crystal at somebody or putting honey on them. And funnily enough, I don't charge people for it. Let's see the alternative practitioners (aka charlatans) do it for free just to help people. Funnily enough they are more interested in money. Amazingly most of the alternative bullsht believers change their mind when the sht hits the fan & are desperate for an actual treatment. You won't be any different. Remember this convo next time somebody you love is in A&E (that accident and emergency not "Ayurvedic and Enemas" FYI)

Original Poster

I am reliably informed that those who call others idiots do so because they know they themselves are idiotic. So thank you for your idiocy. And I wish you good day and a merry Christmas.
Edited by: "jennislattery" 24th Dec 2016

Original Poster

Instead they only have a couple of millenia's worth of empirical evidence … Instead they only have a couple of millenia's worth of empirical evidence that they work.

NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget, which is now a separate site) is a … NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget, which is now a separate site) is a website run by Mike Adams (self-labeled "The Health Ranger") which promotes alternative medicine and related conspiracy theories and attacks on science. Even other quacks think it's a quack site.



You are welcome to your opinion, as I am to mine. Merry Christmas.
Edited by: "jennislattery" 24th Dec 2016

This brand, Manuka Pharm Active Manuka Honey, has one of the lowest values of MGO (a marker found in genuine Manuka honey) in the UK. (this implies it's either low quality, or heavily diluted with Chinese honey) Even the Aldi "own brand" at less than a fiver has double the MGO than this stuff!

You can see the full results of the independent tests done by The Grocer magazine here: minervascientific.co.uk/doc…pdf

If you do believe all the Manuca claims, you are probably better off buying a better (and cheaper!) brand elsewhere.

Great for treating wounds topically (but not as good as modern antiseptics) and reliving you of cash. But the rest is typical health food industry marketing. Albani berry juice anyone!
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