HP 250 G5 (i7-7500U, 1TB HDD, 8GB RAM, Full HD) - £529 @ Save on Laptops
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HP 250 G5 (i7-7500U, 1TB HDD, 8GB RAM, Full HD) - £529 @ Save on Laptops

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Found 27th Oct
A decent enough spec for just over £500, and there seems to be an M.2 slot that you could stick an SSD into (please do your own checks before buying) - 120-128GB M.2 SSDs are around £50, or around 80GB for 240-250GB models. Battery life is quoted at 5-6 hours, so it's at least "usable".

  • Intel Core i7-7500U Dual Core Processor
  • 15.6" Full HD Screen
  • Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
  • 8GB RAM
  • 1TB HDD

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Hi bit of a layman when it comes to much of the techie stuff so was wondering if someone could give me a lay mans guide to the i5 and i7 processors and how the numbers stack up against each other? Many thanks. (Apologies if this is the wrong kind of place to post but was hoping someone could possible provide a bit of help).

I usually use a site like cpu benchmark to compare cpu scores.

sick deal bruh

ianscott007c1bdf27 m ago

Hi bit of a layman when it comes to much of the techie stuff so was …Hi bit of a layman when it comes to much of the techie stuff so was wondering if someone could give me a lay mans guide to the i5 and i7 processors and how the numbers stack up against each other? Many thanks. (Apologies if this is the wrong kind of place to post but was hoping someone could possible provide a bit of help).


sure: if you don't know the difference: i5 is enough for you

i7 in a laptop is a waste of time. Pretty much identical to an i5.
Edited by: "Spies" 27th Oct

Warning to anyone thinking of upgrading this in the future - these are VERY difficult to get into - its almost like they DON'T WANT anyone accessing the HDD bay

i3 & i5 options also available on the website, £449 for i5 variant.

Spies21 m ago

i7 in a laptop is a waste of time. Pretty much identical to an i5.



No wrong - this CPU is a waste of time i grant you - its pretty much a rebadged i3/i5 processor (Badge engineering is something Intel seem to be happily doing for a number of years now)
There are some i3s and even old AMD Athlon X4s that beat this processor according to benchmark scores.

But a true i7 - i.e a Quad Core with HT is essential for my needs in a laptop.
Thanks OP for at least keeping the Dual Core part in the description. But its not a spectacular laptop by any means.
Edited by: "118luke" 27th Oct

i5 is the better deal & option IMO

118luke2 h, 21 m ago

No wrong - this CPU is a waste of time i grant you - its pretty much a …No wrong - this CPU is a waste of time i grant you - its pretty much a rebadged i3/i5 processor (Badge engineering is something Intel seem to be happily doing for a number of years now)There are some i3s and even old AMD Athlon X4s that beat this processor according to benchmark scores.But a true i7 - i.e a Quad Core with HT is essential for my needs in a laptop.Thanks OP for at least keeping the Dual Core part in the description. But its not a spectacular laptop by any means.


I agree, as I too would have assumed a true i7 would have topped all others?.

Anyhow, I'm curious, you mentioned i7 with HT, what's HT?, I've never heard of it ...

Thanx. :-)

It in cpu is hyper threading now you might ask what that is Lolz

amour3k1 h, 3 m ago

I agree, as I too would have assumed a true i7 would have topped all …I agree, as I too would have assumed a true i7 would have topped all others?.Anyhow, I'm curious, you mentioned i7 with HT, what's HT?, I've never heard of it ...Thanx. :-)


Hyperthreading.

aj20015 h, 39 m ago

It in cpu is hyper threading now you might ask what that is Lolz


Thanx.

Hahahahaha, I've heard of Hyper Threading before, just wasn't familiar with the HT Terminology thing?, that's all ... lol. :-D

The Hyper Threading is something of a Speed Term thing, on account of the CPU's Multiple Core's and such like? (if I'm not mistaken?).

Somewhat like a Turbo Boost etc? (so to speak?).

Or somewhere similar ... (I may be mistaken, lol).

Ordered

Wait for Ryzen APU laptops out soon

Also on Laptopsdirect for £539.97 laptopsdirect.co.uk/sea… G5
Must admit, i'd rather pay the extra £10- I think laptops direct cust service is better?

Don't get a laptop with a 7th Generation processor such as this one. There is a significant performance difference between these and the 8th Gen CPU's which have true quad core processors.

amour3k10 h, 58 m ago

Thanx.Hahahahaha, I've heard of Hyper Threading before, just wasn't …Thanx.Hahahahaha, I've heard of Hyper Threading before, just wasn't familiar with the HT Terminology thing?, that's all ... lol. :-DThe Hyper Threading is something of a Speed Term thing, on account of the CPU's Multiple Core's and such like? (if I'm not mistaken?).Somewhat like a Turbo Boost etc? (so to speak?).Or somewhere similar ... (I may be mistaken, lol).



Hyperthreading was first introduced on an Intel Xeon in February 2002 and November 2002 in a Pentium 4. So as a consumer technology it's been around 15 years.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 28th Oct

I wish Intel would stop mucking about with these useless dual core i7's that are so feeble an Athlon can catch them, yes obviously it's due to power savings but...

Whole point of an i7 was PROCESSING SPEED so why produce ULV version that runs like a dog.

Intel almost seem to be polluting their product line ups with inferior chips into the i3, i5 & i7 lines

Spies27th Oct

i7 in a laptop is a waste of time. Pretty much identical to an i5.

It is when talking about the U processors such as this but the HQ i7s are very much worth it over the i5s. It's not a comment that applies to all laptops just the ones with low voltage CPUs
Edited by: "TomScrut" 30th Oct

Original Poster

Isn't this discussion of dual core vs quad core ignoring the fact that until the 8th gen chips are widely available (which could be any day now) the choice year after year has generally been EITHER
A) light, portable laptop with a long battery life: 15W TDP 2-core processor (U series)
B) heavier to much heavier laptop with a relatively short battery life: 45W TDP 4-core processor (HQ series)

If you don't game, some flavour of A) is likely to be enough
If you game, you're almost certainly going to want/need some flavour of B)

In other words, you're either an A) person (and thinking about a laptop such as this one) or a B) person (and this laptop will be a disappointment)

If we treat A) and B) completely separately, then the following rules of thumb are generally true:
Rule 1: Performance improves each generation (sometimes only a tiny bit, but...)
Rule 2: The i7 of a particular generation is faster than the i5 of that same generation, which is faster than the i3 of that same generation

So for example the 7th generation A) processors are the i3-7100U, the i5-7200U and the i7-7500U. Both my above rules of thumb work, if we look at the Passmark scores
Rule 1:
7th gen i7-7500U: 1,934 single thread, 5,217 CPU mark
6th gen i7-6500U: 1,644 single thread, 4,423 CPU mark
5th gen i7-5500U: 1,547 single thread, 3,965 CPU mark

Rule 2:
i7-7500U: 1,934 single thread, 5,217 CPU mark
i5-7200U: 1,742 single thread, 4,698 CPU mark
i3-7100U: 1,324 single thread, 3,653 CPU mark

As you can see, when you look across generations, the i5 often trumps the i7 of a previous generation:
i5-7200U: 1,742 single thread, 4,698 CPU mark
i7-6500U: 1,644 single thread, 4,423 CPU mark

Of course, there may be other benefits to the most modern processors, such as better integrated graphics. The A) folk likely won't want/need a dedicated graphics card, because that impacts weight and battery life and they're not gamers.
Edited by: "Genki" 30th Oct

Quick question : would this be good enough for sims / roblox? As I’m looking for a laptop for 11 year old daughter.

thanks

Genki30th Oct

Isn't this discussion of dual core vs quad core ignoring the fact that …Isn't this discussion of dual core vs quad core ignoring the fact that until the 8th gen chips are widely available (which could be any day now) the choice year after year has generally been EITHERA) light, portable laptop with a long battery life: 15W TDP 2-core processor (U series)B) heavier to much heavier laptop with a relatively short battery life: 45W TDP 4-core processor (HQ series)If you don't game, some flavour of A) is likely to be enoughIf you game, you're almost certainly going to want/need some flavour of B)In other words, you're either an A) person (and thinking about a laptop such as this one) or a B) person (and this laptop will be a disappointment)If we treat A) and B) completely separately, then the following rules of thumb are generally true:Rule 1: Performance improves each generation (sometimes only a tiny bit, but...)Rule 2: The i7 of a particular generation is faster than the i5 of that same generation, which is faster than the i3 of that same generationSo for example the 7th generation A) processors are the i3-7100U, the i5-7200U and the i7-7500U. Both my above rules of thumb work, if we look at the Passmark scoresRule 1:7th gen i7-7500U: 1,934 single thread, 5,217 CPU mark6th gen i7-6500U: 1,644 single thread, 4,423 CPU mark5th gen i7-5500U: 1,547 single thread, 3,965 CPU markRule 2:i7-7500U: 1,934 single thread, 5,217 CPU marki5-7200U: 1,742 single thread, 4,698 CPU marki3-7100U: 1,324 single thread, 3,653 CPU markAs you can see, when you look across generations, the i5 often trumps the i7 of a previous generation:i5-7200U: 1,742 single thread, 4,698 CPU marki7-6500U: 1,644 single thread, 4,423 CPU markOf course, there may be other benefits to the most modern processors, such as better integrated graphics. The A) folk likely won't want/need a dedicated graphics card, because that impacts weight and battery life and they're not gamers.


For the first time in about 15 years I'm having to purchase my own laptop.
After having spent a day of research into laptops imho I think you've hit the nail on the head and confirmed my own conclusions.

I found this on laptopsdirect which seems a good deal.

32422477.jpgMany thanks for the informative post Genki
Edited by: "AndrewGarner" 12th Nov
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