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HP 255 G6 15" AMD A6 4GB 1TB HDD FreeDOS (No OS) Laptop £169.98 @ Ebuyer

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Posted 7th Jul
Get a cheap key from ebay and you got a decent, basic machine.
  • AMD A6-9225 2.6GHz
  • 4GB DDR4 + 1TB HDD
  • 15.6" Display + DVDRW
  • AMD Graphics + WiFi
  • FreeDOS - NO Windows
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Resolution 1366 x 768 (HD)
HP 255 G6 15" AMD A6 4GB 1TB HDD FreeDOS Laptop Want a cheap laptop but don't want to compromise on performance? This HP 255 G6 laptop could be exactly what you're looking for. It's probably the cheapest HP laptop you'll find. And because it's HP you know you're getting a reliable, well made PC from one of the most recognisable brands in tech.

But before we look at what the laptop can do we must make it clear:

No Windows 10This HP 255 laptop is supplied with FreeDOS. This means it DOESN'T have Windows 10 installed. If you want Windows, and most home users will, you will need to buy Windows 10 separately and install it on the laptop yourself. Please don't buy this laptop if you're uncomfortable with installing software.

So the laptop doesn't have Windows. But what does it have?

Under the hood It comes with an AMD A6 processor which can handle all your everyday computing needs. Surfing the net, updating social media and sending emails for example. The 4GB of RAM is enough memory for a home user and the massive 1TB hard drive will comfortably store all your media files, photos, documents etc.

Large screen The HP 255 comes with a large 15.6" HD LED display. This is the ideal size for working on or watching online videos. The laptop is fitted with a DVD drive so you can watch movies or install applications from disc.

Connectivity As you'd expect from a HP laptop this PC has all the connectivity options you need. There's two superfast USB 3.1 ports along with a USB 2.0. And it also has the all-important HDMI port for connecting your TV, monitor or other compatible device. VGA, LAN and headphone/microphone jack complete the connectivity options.

Portable Weighing in at under 2KG you can comfortably take this laptop with you wherever you go. Ideal if you like to work while you're travelling to the office or university.

PLEASE REMEMBER THIS LAPTOP IS NOT SUPPLIED WITH WINDOWS. YOU WILL NEED TO INSTALL THE OPERATING SYSTEM OF YOUR CHOICE.

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eraldo08/07/2019 04:07

Pity the panel used on this is complete and utter ****.


It's OK. But this is a sub £200 laptop not a >£500 one. This is the best bang per buck laptop for ages
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Or download OpenSuSE safe yourself a tad on a key and run smoother (if you stay away from KDE).
Great for a little Debian box with lxde, looking at wallet and thinking of replacing my terminal typing Lapps with this, it’s only got to run a few tmuxed tty consoles and browse stuff to copy and paste into them - more than capable.
Pity the panel used on this is complete and utter ****.
I got the 250 g6 got a key from brytesoft
1 windows 10 pro for 15 or 5 for 30
So the 1st was windows 10 pro
The other 4 was windows 10. Theres nearly no difference between 10 and 10 pro
Or you could go to pcworld and pay £100 or so if you wish
Download a windows media tool on a usb and set it up that way , im not the smartest but with a helping hand from good old YouTube it was a blast
Hope this helps someone
Im here if you need me
eraldo08/07/2019 04:07

Pity the panel used on this is complete and utter ****.


It's OK. But this is a sub £200 laptop not a >£500 one. This is the best bang per buck laptop for ages
Hi, I bought one a couple of weeks ago, does everything I need, loaded Windows 10 from Microsoft and bought a key from Ebay for £2.99, All works great. Exellent value for everyday Emails and Ebay. What more could you ask for at this price. Highly recommended. No problems with Ebuyer and registered with HP for a years guarantee. Well pleased. Dave.
I might get one if it had an ssd, does anyone know if you can upgrade the hard-drive to an ssd one?
Superman_turbo_pro_300008/07/2019 17:35

I might get one if it had an ssd, does anyone know if you can upgrade the …I might get one if it had an ssd, does anyone know if you can upgrade the hard-drive to an ssd one?


theres no reason why you cant if you get a 2.5" adapter enclosure thing since i doubt it has m2. Was debating wherever or not for my new laptop in january but deemed it a hassle partitioning to save win10 and backing up the hdd to the sdd, so i didnt.
zerbirus08/07/2019 17:46

theres no reason why you cant if you get a 2.5" adapter enclosure thing …theres no reason why you cant if you get a 2.5" adapter enclosure thing since i doubt it has m2. Was debating wherever or not for my new laptop in january but deemed it a hassle partitioning to save win10 and backing up the hdd to the sdd, so i didnt.


Can't you use a drive copying program... Like EaseUS and put the new SSD in an enclosure.... Then just copy EVERYTHING bit for bit onto the new SSD HARD DRIVE? then you don't have to partition ANYTHING, because it will already be on the first one
Your much better of with something with an SSD as Hard drives massively restrict the speed of a computer. 120 ish GB ssd is all you need but id recommend at least 240 ish GB

Windows 10 OS only really needs about 60 GB as it takes up about 25-30 GB but you need room for updates but a larger one helps with other things and of course storage.
4gb of ram is a bit crap. What can it be expanded to? 8gb max is common, I guess.
Muks199008/07/2019 03:23

I got the 250 g6 got a key from brytesoft1 windows 10 pro for 15 or 5 for …I got the 250 g6 got a key from brytesoft1 windows 10 pro for 15 or 5 for 30So the 1st was windows 10 proThe other 4 was windows 10. Theres nearly no difference between 10 and 10 proOr you could go to pcworld and pay £100 or so if you wishDownload a windows media tool on a usb and set it up that way , im not the smartest but with a helping hand from good old YouTube it was a blastHope this helps someone Im here if you need me


Pro has a lot of features, but if you're a casual user (and with this laptop, you'd have to be), you won't need them
Superman_turbo_pro_300008/07/2019 17:56

Can't you use a drive copying program... Like EaseUS and put the new SSD …Can't you use a drive copying program... Like EaseUS and put the new SSD in an enclosure.... Then just copy EVERYTHING bit for bit onto the new SSD HARD DRIVE? then you don't have to partition ANYTHING, because it will already be on the first one


no, this is very bad

you should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise you subject it to undue wear, and it won't be running as fast as it can

* note: in some enterprise settings, an image is fine, but that's an image specifically for an SSD
JMac_D08/07/2019 18:00

Your much better of with something with an SSD as Hard drives massively …Your much better of with something with an SSD as Hard drives massively restrict the speed of a computer. 120 ish GB ssd is all you need but id recommend at least 240 ish GBWindows 10 OS only really needs about 60 GB as it takes up about 25-30 GB but you need room for updates but a larger one helps with other things and of course storage.


You get Windows 10 notebooks with only 32GB memory and pretty much the whole storage is occupied by the operating system, if you want to install updates you have to temporarily add usb storage or an micro SD card. What an utter farce of an operating system. On the same basic hardware a chromebook boots instantly, runs much faster, has tons of storage and just seems a revelation in performance terms. Even the games are better because android games are so much better optimised for both performance and storage so 32GB actually stores a reasonable amount of android games compared to pretty much nothing on a windows 10 notebook with 32GB. I just feel for some people a chromebook would be a far better option depending on what they use a laptop for.
A6 is a poor processor, i have one in my laptop and it really struggles despite me having 8gb ram.
phox09/07/2019 01:36

no, this is very badyou should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise …no, this is very badyou should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise you subject it to undue wear, and it won't be running as fast as it can* note: in some enterprise settings, an image is fine, but that's an image specifically for an SSD


This is what i did with my Samsung 860 evo 1tb drive.

I followed the Samsung instructions and used the Samsung "drive magic" copying software.

It's running incredibly fast without any problems.

Can't see why there'd be "undue ware" as you put it. Surely a drive image is lots of '0' and '1's which is exactly what a hard drive is supposed to record, provided the HDD is in NTFS format then it wouldn't change.
Superman_turbo_pro_300009/07/2019 04:05

This is what i did with my Samsung 860 evo 1tb drive. I followed the …This is what i did with my Samsung 860 evo 1tb drive. I followed the Samsung instructions and used the Samsung "drive magic" copying software. It's running incredibly fast without any problems. Can't see why there'd be "undue ware" as you put it. Surely a drive image is lots of '0' and '1's which is exactly what a hard drive is supposed to record, provided the HDD is in NTFS format then it wouldn't change.


Just because it works doesn't mean it's correct

SSDs use different sector sizes, don't have cylinders, and the controller performs a lot of optimisation

A HDD and SSD are not bit-compatible, they're at best filesystem-compatible

Additionally, your machine will still attempt to defragment your files, which you actually want fragmented

NTFS doesn't tell you anything about the data format on the disk, only the filesystem presented to the host OS

I can't speak for Samsung's Drive Magic, however if it's doing a bitwise-copy, this is bad for your drive
Zorin is a fab free Linux OS especially designed for laptops, it has a Windows design and a lot of apps can be downloaded and installed the same, i use v12, much faster than Windows
bonzobanana09/07/2019 01:59

You get Windows 10 notebooks with only 32GB memory and pretty much the …You get Windows 10 notebooks with only 32GB memory and pretty much the whole storage is occupied by the operating system, if you want to install updates you have to temporarily add usb storage or an micro SD card. What an utter farce of an operating system. On the same basic hardware a chromebook boots instantly, runs much faster, has tons of storage and just seems a revelation in performance terms. Even the games are better because android games are so much better optimised for both performance and storage so 32GB actually stores a reasonable amount of android games compared to pretty much nothing on a windows 10 notebook with 32GB. I just feel for some people a chromebook would be a far better option depending on what they use a laptop for.


If its Windows 10s your talking about i know all about that nonsense. You can only use certain apps.
It even lets you update to the full windows version which makes things far worse. You have to permanently have a usb drive connected. Its idiotic.
I have a 4gb ram 32gb storage Lenovo laptop running full version of W10. It runs very smoothly and for general use is ideal. Yes I needed to use a USB drive for a recent update to install but no hassle really I use a 64gb micro sd card for additional storage..
Ouch, that is one slow CPU. That said, if you MUST have new then its not too bad a deal. Upgrading the RAM isn't really worth it due to the CPU being the biggest bottleneck of the system. Windows 10 isn't too bad on this hardware, but as others have said, an alternative Linux based OS designed for slower machines will probably be a better fit in the long run.
phox09/07/2019 04:10

Just because it works doesn't mean it's correctSSDs use different sector …Just because it works doesn't mean it's correctSSDs use different sector sizes, don't have cylinders, and the controller performs a lot of optimisationA HDD and SSD are not bit-compatible, they're at best filesystem-compatibleAdditionally, your machine will still attempt to defragment your files, which you actually want fragmentedNTFS doesn't tell you anything about the data format on the disk, only the filesystem presented to the host OSI can't speak for Samsung's Drive Magic, however if it's doing a bitwise-copy, this is bad for your drive


Is the best option not to just get a new ssd and whack windows straight onto it and chuck the 1tb drive? Or am I missing something about it storing something critical on the original drive
simandoo09/07/2019 10:25

Is the best option not to just get a new ssd and whack windows straight …Is the best option not to just get a new ssd and whack windows straight onto it and chuck the 1tb drive? Or am I missing something about it storing something critical on the original drive


see my previous comment:

phox:

no, this is very bad

you should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise you subject it to undue wear, and it won't be running as fast as it can

* note: in some enterprise settings, an image is fine, but that's an image specifically for an SSD
phox09/07/2019 11:33

see my previous comment:phox:no, this is very badyou should always fresh …see my previous comment:phox:no, this is very badyou should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise you subject it to undue wear, and it won't be running as fast as it can* note: in some enterprise settings, an image is fine, but that's an image specifically for an SSD


Yeah I guess that's what I meant... But is fresh install as simple as installing windows?
simandoo09/07/2019 12:43

Yeah I guess that's what I meant... But is fresh install as simple as …Yeah I guess that's what I meant... But is fresh install as simple as installing windows?


Yep, install windows, activate it, install all your drivers and you're good to go
Whats the battery like?

My Desktop has been incrdibly flaky of late and Im on my second rebuild today
I bought a cheap tablet PC as a back up from ebay for £160
ebay.co.uk/itm…986

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RAM4 GB
Features
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TypeTablet
Colour Black
Processor Quad Core
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Operating System Windows 10
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ColourBlack
DimensionsWeight930 g

and consdering sending it back and buying this instead.
My needs are simple; internet, ebay, office and some bacth image processing.
Thanks
phox09/07/2019 11:33

see my previous comment:phox:no, this is very badyou should always fresh …see my previous comment:phox:no, this is very badyou should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise you subject it to undue wear, and it won't be running as fast as it can* note: in some enterprise settings, an image is fine, but that's an image specifically for an SSD


Are you sure the cloning soft doesn't take this into account?
Meathotukdeals09/07/2019 15:36

Are you sure the cloning soft doesn't take this into account?


I've never encountered one that does, it would have to regerse-engineer the Windows install process to factor in the changes the installer makes
Superman_turbo_pro_300008/07/2019 17:35

I might get one if it had an ssd, does anyone know if you can upgrade the …I might get one if it had an ssd, does anyone know if you can upgrade the hard-drive to an ssd one?


Yes
I have an AMD A12 based laptop... it's pants... I can't imagine how bad the A6 is. DOS is about all it can probably run at any reasonable speed.
Maybe Kubuntu. GNOME would be slow as heck (press the 'show applications' button and watch it take an eternity)
Superman_turbo_pro_300008/07/2019 17:35

I might get one if it had an ssd, does anyone know if you can upgrade the …I might get one if it had an ssd, does anyone know if you can upgrade the hard-drive to an ssd one?


A sata ssd can be put in in place of the supplied 1tb drive. You can't put a m1 ssd as the mother board doesn't have the connectors.
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Laura.Palmer09/07/2019 22:31

A sata ssd can be put in in place of the supplied 1tb drive. You can't put …A sata ssd can be put in in place of the supplied 1tb drive. You can't put a m1 ssd as the mother board doesn't have the connectors. [Image]


Ah. The "m1" drives are the ones about the size of a penguin bar, whereas the old style msata are like a 4 finger kitkat. I learnt that when i bought an ssd for my current laptop.
phox09/07/2019 11:33

see my previous comment:phox:no, this is very badyou should always fresh …see my previous comment:phox:no, this is very badyou should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise you subject it to undue wear, and it won't be running as fast as it can* note: in some enterprise settings, an image is fine, but that's an image specifically for an SSD


I think your information is at the very least out of date

Running a back up and recovery of an OS hdd onto and SSD is absolutely fine. Windows 10 is perfectly able to see the change and optimise correctly . Windows 10 even syspreps so you can copy to a machine with a totally different chipset in a lot of instances . Times have changed
Laura.Palmer09/07/2019 22:31

A sata ssd can be put in in place of the supplied 1tb drive. You can't put …A sata ssd can be put in in place of the supplied 1tb drive. You can't put a m1 ssd as the mother board doesn't have the connectors. [Image]


I would put the 1TB in a optical drive adapter and not have that
zinglebarb10/07/2019 01:36

I think your information is at the very least out of date Running a back …I think your information is at the very least out of date Running a back up and recovery of an OS hdd onto and SSD is absolutely fine. Windows 10 is perfectly able to see the change and optimise correctly . Windows 10 even syspreps so you can copy to a machine with a totally different chipset in a lot of instances . Times have changed


My information is not out of date, there's just a lot of bodges and hacks being pushed by software developers who care more about their bottom line than their users

back up and restore (via a third drive) is file-wise, not bit-wise, so is acceptable, although still not ideal

Windows can't adjust sector sizing on the fly, that's part of the disk formatting process, and if you image (clone) a HDD to an SSD, you will have dodgy sector sizes

sysprep is completely unrelated, although useful, and has been part of Windows since at least XP iirc
It is absolutely fine and windows will not need to change sector size as I said back up and restore it will take a similar amount of time .
sysprep in windows 10 automatically kicks in it never before
Edited by: "zinglebarb" 10th Jul
phox09/07/2019 01:36

no, this is very badyou should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise …no, this is very badyou should always fresh install* on an SSD, otherwise you subject it to undue wear, and it won't be running as fast as it can* note: in some enterprise settings, an image is fine, but that's an image specifically for an SSD



phox09/07/2019 04:10

Just because it works doesn't mean it's correctSSDs use different sector …Just because it works doesn't mean it's correctSSDs use different sector sizes, don't have cylinders, and the controller performs a lot of optimisationA HDD and SSD are not bit-compatible, they're at best filesystem-compatibleAdditionally, your machine will still attempt to defragment your files, which you actually want fragmentedNTFS doesn't tell you anything about the data format on the disk, only the filesystem presented to the host OSI can't speak for Samsung's Drive Magic, however if it's doing a bitwise-copy, this is bad for your drive



Please stop spreading fud.
Otherwise, post some proof.

As a programmer I can tell you the OS doesn't care what disk is being used, nor the filesystem, nor the kernel.
Everything is abstracted away from the system behind the driver, and in the end, managed by the ssd controller.

After cloning a mechanical disk, Windows will automatically change a few settings (and sometimes the driver) to deal with the new ssd.
Whether you clone or you format an ssd, NTFS (or even FAT for that matter), will still format as "512 bytes per sector" and "4096 bytes per cluster". i.e. the OS and file system doesn't care, it's left to the driver to deal with the read/write process, and the controller on the ssd finds the most optimum storage cell and page alignment and controls garbage collection, no matter how many times trim is called by the OS.

If you don't believe me, launch a shell and type fsutil to find out about the sectors / and clusters used by NTFS on the SSD.
To make matters even more confusing to you, check out the "number of sectors" and "total clusters" occupied by the SSD!

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It's actually possible you're doing more harm to your SSD by formatting and installing Windows again, because erasing a nand cell requires quite a lot or voltage and realignment, and causes more wear to the cell, because of the way a write occurs in pages and erase is performed in blocks.
ibnMuhammad_11/07/2019 01:01

Please stop spreading fud.Otherwise, post some proof.As a programmer I can …Please stop spreading fud.Otherwise, post some proof.As a programmer I can tell you the OS doesn't care what disk is being used, nor the filesystem, nor the kernel.Everything is abstracted away from the system behind the driver, and in the end, managed by the ssd controller.After cloning a mechanical disk, Windows will automatically change a few settings (and sometimes the driver) to deal with the new ssd.Whether you clone or you format an ssd, NTFS (or even FAT for that matter), will still format as "512 bytes per sector" and "4096 bytes per cluster". i.e. the OS and file system doesn't care, it's left to the driver to deal with the read/write process, and the controller on the ssd finds the most optimum storage cell and page alignment and controls garbage collection, no matter how many times trim is called by the OS.If you don't believe me, launch a shell and type fsutil to find out about the sectors / and clusters used by NTFS on the SSD.To make matters even more confusing to you, check out the "number of sectors" and "total clusters" occupied by the SSD! [Image] It's actually possible you're doing more harm to your SSD by formatting and installing Windows again, because erasing a nand cell requires quite a lot or voltage and realignment, and causes more wear to the cell, because of the way a write occurs in pages and erase is performed in blocks.


I'm not suggesting to format and install windows again, I'm stating that when you get an SSD, you should fresh install windows, not wipe it first

I'll post proof as soon as I've got my desktop system back, I'm currently on my phone because I'm homeless
Could you install neverware's Chrome o/s and make this thing fly?
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