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HP 311c 1020, 11.6" Netbook, Win XP, 1GB, 160GB, BGN WiFi, HDMI, ION, £229 delivered @Amazon
HP 311c 1020, 11.6" Netbook, Win XP, 1GB, 160GB, BGN WiFi, HDMI, ION, £229 delivered  @Amazon

HP 311c 1020, 11.6" Netbook, Win XP, 1GB, 160GB, BGN WiFi, HDMI, ION, £229 delivered @Amazon

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Great price for this netbook with Windows XP.

1020 is virtually same as the 1010 and 1101 with XP.

1030 has 3g, 1130 also.

I have this model and not seen it this cheap before new and direct from Amazon.

hotukdeals.com/dea…670
is a cheap DDR3 upgrade to 2GB.

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strange lack of spec - quick look at a review says this has bg wireless and not n like in the 1101
looks great though

Original Poster

It is the same I have the 1020 model and has B/G/N WiFi :-)
The disks were slightly different on the 1010/1020 (retail) and 1101 (different mnfrs.)

damn these confusing differences!
doesn't matter where i look cant see n wireless listed on a spec sheet from 5 diff sellers of it.
also HDD listed as 5400rpm and 1101 7200rpm
cant sellers get specs right for a change!

I've just bought Your text here (despite the colour) and an extra £30 to upgrade the RAM to 2GB. Very good reviews and was convinced after playing with one at John Lewis last night (where it's still £350 btw).

sprooter

I've just bought Your text here (despite the colour) and an extra £30 to … I've just bought Your text here (despite the colour) and an extra £30 to upgrade the RAM to 2GB. Very good reviews and was convinced after playing with one at John Lewis last night (where it's still £350 btw).



That machine doesn't have the ION GPU

Guys if you buy this, you can upgrade the RAM to 2GB for £12.99 here

is this a lot better than because when listed on here it went over 300 degrees! But I dont really see much difference (mind you Im not much of a techie)

amazon.co.uk/gp/…-21

mrforsythexeter

That machine doesn't have the ION GPU



what is the benefit of that?

Nvidia ION 9400m (good for games and video acceleration) > Intel atom integrated graphics (only good for decoding certain codecs)

This Pc does have the ION GPU,

this version is the same one as sold by expansys via amazon : amazon.co.uk/311…e_2

just it does not have a full specification displayed on the site.

This is a hot deal. Need to resist. The ION graphics, plus great keyboard, plus good screen size is very hard to resist....

I have the 1101SA version of this machine and it is fantastic. I can highly recommend it.

This will accept another 2gb of memory to take the total up to 3gb.

The ION chipset does make a huge difference. I was surprised how many games I could get to run on it, especially compared to my non-ION netbook.

Does anyone know how this Atom compares on day to day stuff (Office, IE8) with either the ASUS UL30A or the Dell 11Z (both available in CarPhoneWarehouse)?
I've owned both the above and shifted them on (UL30A too big, Dell 11z, didn't like the touchpad).

Any thoughts?

Original Poster

Still avaialble - mods please unexpire :-)

There's 1GB soldered to the motherboard and an expansion slot which can take a 2GB module giving you 3GB overall. I bought this myself today, should be here tomorrow. I've read a lot of reviews today and it's a very well specced machine for the money. The CPU can be overclocked to 2GHz and remain completely stable.
Edited by: "Heed20" 10th Aug 2010

Can you confirm whether or not this model has an HDMI port as it is not listed on the HP specification. Thanks.

h10025.www1.hp.com/ewf…21&

I have one of these, awesome little machine. Can confirm you can add another 2GB DD3 to get a total 3GB (actual is 2.75GB as 250MB goes to the nVidia ION). have overclocked mine to 1.8Ghz too

had this for about 8 months now, very good laptop and good looking shiny, 4-5 hours battery life, screen size is perfect, not too small as other "netbooks" and not too bulky as normal notebooks, performance is OK for browsing, listening to music, word editing, etc

this laptop does have the nvidia ION GPU but as it comes with windows xp it's ION LE as the difference between the two is directx 10 capable (think) which makes no real difference in real world usage and you need windows 7 or vista to "hack" to full ION

if you are concerned about games performance i recommend you upgrade to 3gb (buy an extra 2gdb module) as i have as it allocated extra memory to the video card, this laptop will play street fighter 4, pro evo soccer 2009 flawlessly, don't know other games but this is good fun on a plane let's say with 2 gamepads connected via usb

mvaria

Can you confirm whether or not this model has an HDMI port as it is not … Can you confirm whether or not this model has an HDMI port as it is not listed on the HP specification. Thanks.http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01891257&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=uk&product=4036021〈=en



Yes it does.
Edited by: "Heed20" 10th Aug 2010

Product Name 311c-1020SA
Product Number VT392EA
Microprocessor 1.60 GHz Intel Atom processor N270
Microprocessor Cache 512 MB Level 2 cache
Memory 1024 MB (1 x 1024 MB)
Memory Max Up to 1 GB DDR2
Video Graphics NVIDIA ION LE
Video Memory Up to 319 MB
Hard Drive 160 GB (5400 rpm)
Display 11.6" Diagonal HD LED BrightView Widescreen Display (1366 x 768)
Network Card Integrated 10/100 Ethernet LAN
Wireless Connectivity 802.11 b/g WLAN

Bluetooth
Sound Altec Lansing speakers
Keyboard 92% full size keyboard
External Ports

* 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for xD, Secure Digital cards, MultiMedia cards, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro
* 1 VGA
* 3 USB 2.0 ports
* 1 RJ -45
* Headphone/Mic combo

Dimensions 28.9 cm (L) x 20.4 cm (W) x 1.98 (min H)/3.06 cm (max H)
Weight 1.46 kg
Power

* 90 W AC Adapter
* 6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)

Those are the specs from the website but they are incorrect. It uses DDR3 RAM and has a HDMI port.

Correct Specs below:

HP Compaq 311C-1020SA Intel Atom / Windows XP / 11.6in Netbook PC … HP Compaq 311C-1020SA Intel Atom / Windows XP / 11.6in Netbook PC features:- Intel Atom Processor N270 1.60GHz- 1GB DDR2 RAM / 160GB Hard Disk Drive- NVIDIA ION LE- Genuine Windows® XP Home Service Pack 3 (32-bit) HP Compaq 311C-1020SA Intel Atom / Windows XP / 11.6in Netbook PC specifications:Product Description Compaq Mini 311c-1020SA PCProcessor 1 x Intel Atom Processor N270 1.60GHzChipset Mobile Intel GM965 ExpressCache Memory Level 2 cache 512 KBHard Drive 160GB - Serial ATA-150Networking:-Ethernet-Fast Ethernet-802.11 b/g WLAN-Bluetooth® wireless networkingTelecom No -RAM 1GB (installed) DDR3Graphics Controller NVIDIA ION LE - Up to 319 MB Total Available Graphics MemoryBuilt-in Devices:-Stereo speakers-Wireless LAN aerialNotebook Camera Webcam with Integrated MicrophoneDisplay 11.6" Diagonal HD LED BrightView Widescreen DisplayOptical Storage NoCard Reader 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media ReaderOS Provided Genuine Windows® XP Home Service Pack 3 (32-bit)Dimensions (WxDxH) 28.9 cm (L) x 20.4 cm (W) x 1.98 (min H)/3.06 cm (max H)Weight 1.46 kgEnvironmental Standards ENERGY STAR® qualifiedExternal I/O Ports 3 USB 2.0, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA port, 1 RJ45 ethernet connector, 1 jack Headphone/Mic combo jack


Hot for me thanks. Apologies if I've missed something, but other than screensize, would this similar Amazon offering also be a contender at the same price being newer processessor and Win7?

amazon.co.uk/210…1-8

That doesn't look bad but I don't know what the Intel GMA graphics are like. They won't be as quick as an ION chip though. Also the battery life is comparatively poor. 3.5 hours against 6 hours.

Just thought id share me info -

Bought one of these 2 weeks ago - AMAZING

The only drawback is the trackpad - it is awful. And I mean terrable. However, I have bought a mouse (which i would of done anyway)

I have overclocked mine to 1.95ghz, and undervolted it to keep temp down. I have upgraded with an extra 2gb DDR3 ram to take it upto max 3gb (well, 2.75gb due to video shared).

I am running windows 7 ultimate on it, and the system runs a dream.. I get around 3 hours 35 mins from a full charge (i think it was longer when XP was on it, win 7 seems to drain the battery more)

With windows 7 being on it, i have manged to hack the system to convert the GFX to full ION (rather than ION LE) - This is only possible with Vista or W7.

This netbook is amazing :-) I am even able to run Starcraft 2 on it :-) slightly laggy, but playable all the same for when i am staying away from home for work.

You won't be disapointed - APART from the trackpad.

Apparently one of the big issues with the trackpad is the driver. Using a different driver can help. It's still not ideal but it means that the system is more useable without a mouse if you're using it on the go.

Reading some posts on the trackpad issue a reviewer recommended using a utility called touchfreeze which disables the touchpad automatically while you are typing text.

code.google.com/p/t…ze/

I've had one for 8 months now - trackpad is rubbish, no question and at times it seems slow with windows 7 (but I'm quite sure thats because of the RAM).

Ion graphics is really quite good, HD 1080p decoding quite easy and games pretty decent, can be overclocked.

Also the fan runs all the time!

I've also had this netbook (a 1030SA) for c. 8 months and it's the best purchase I've made for a long time.

The ION acceleration is great - providing you have enough internet bandwidth you can stream BBC iPlayer in HD (to an HD TV via HDMI if you wish), although you need to find a copy of beta1 of the Flash 10 drivers as later versions don't accelerate properly.

As rash says, there are some great media player apps that can be used with the HDMI to play 1080p faultlessly.

There are also some browsers that use the graphics acceleration, and Youtube can play up to high resolutions without stuttering.

myhpmini.com is a superb resources and contains details of how to use a Toshiba touchpad driver to make it just about useable!

My latest find is that the 1030SA with 3G also has a GPS receiver built in that can be enabled; now I have to find a usage for satnav on a laptop to justify purchasing a package!

All in all - highly recommended

from what I have gathered about the 1101sa (not the one above) was it had wireless N, a spare user accessable memory slot (upto 2gb of ddr3 ram can be inserted into that the original 1gb is soldered) faster harddisk 7200rpm and 65w adaptor rather than 90w.

As a few people have mentioned, you can set the bios to shipped with Win7, it changes it to a full ION. it had trouble installing the latest Nvidia driver after install Win7. after setting it as shipped with Win7 windows detected it as a Nvidia ION straight away when booted and fixed the resolution also the problem with the Nvidia driver had gone.

for people considering changing it full ION you will have to look for HPBQ189.exe, later versions would not work. you will have to make a bootable usb stick pointing it to the MiniDOS file in C drive(put the folder with the files there first) using the HP utility you will have to format it as FAT (only my old 1gb usb stick could be formatted to FAT for some reason), after that you will have to copy the HPBQ189.exe file onto the memory stick then boot from the memory stick, after clicking of the change date and time type in HPBQ189.exe and enter then press g (g is not an option just press it) and select 1 for vista installed or something. then escape and restart.

Google this before attempting it ( there is always risk, you could brick your laptop if you do something wrong so make sure you read up on it clearly first )

very tempted
but i already have 3 notebooks and a desktop pc

i believe that this is the 311C-1020SA

h10025.www1.hp.com/ewf…uk&



do a control and F and then input HDMI- bing ! nothing

External Ports 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for xD, Secure … External Ports 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for xD, Secure Digital cards, MultiMedia cards, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro1 VGA3 USB 2.0 ports1 RJ -45Headphone/Mic combo



This is the no HDMI and no WEBCAN version - as is corretly specified in the page

Title is wrong


COCO

Or more likely the HP site is wrong. Can't find a single other link anywhere on the web that says the 1020 doesn't have HDMI and plenty saying it does (including users on the MyHPMini forum who evidently have HDMI ports on their 311c 1020SA's). The difference between the 1010 and 1020 is just the colour of the lid. AFAIK silver is 1010 and black is 1020 (might have that they wrong way round tho?).

The only difference between the 1010 and the 1020 is the company selling it. The 1020 was the 1010 given to sellers other than HP.

voted cold because even after 2 pages i am still confused to what specs this is. should be more transparent in future. plus if it is not wireless n then its no good

Ok - to clear some things up.

I am typing this on my 311c

The sticker on the back says 311c-1020sa - which i believe is this product.

It has a HDMI output and a webcam. It has a spare ram slot, as i am using it with an extra 2gb ram in it. Put win7 on no probs. Put hacked bios on (available via myminihp site) very easily with no issues.

I have the trackpad updated drivers, and its still pants - although i still use it, it just does my head in, lol

Any other questions that need clearing up?

Oh, btw, i got mine for £242 2 weeks ago which i thought was a bargin - this is cheaper again.

Majnu

voted cold because even after 2 pages i am still confused to what specs … voted cold because even after 2 pages i am still confused to what specs this is. should be more transparent in future. plus if it is not wireless n then its no good



The specs are as I posted in post 22. There is no wireless N. That's only an issue currently if you're streaming HD content wirelessly though.

if this has no disk drive how do you play games on it? like my football manager 09, if I wanted to play it over the net with someone on the netbook I'd not be able to, coz I'd not be able to install the disk?

I'd have to pay again via Steam or something? (just using that game as an example, I just mean any game really).

I'm thick (_;)

You can buy the game off steam, register your current copy with steam or get a no CD patch which allows the game to run without a disc in the drive.

To install games you can use an external optical drive or make images of your game discs on your desktop then put them on a USB stick to install them onto the netbook.

Had this laptop for a few weeks. Love it. Upgraded the RAM to 3GB by adding a 2GB module - make sure you get a 1333MHz part so you can overclock the Atom chip and RAM. Also upped the hard disk to 640GB and installed Windows 7. Mine will happily overclock to 2GHz and this really helps playing some of the latest games as the Atom chip and not the graphics seems to be the main bottle-neck. Will probably go faster using the custom BIOS but I haven't had the guts to try yet. Currently playing Left 4 Dead and Singularity if that helps anyone.

Only complaint is the track-pad - it kept registering single taps when I was typing but installed a free utility (TouchFreeze) that disables the track-pad when typing and that fixed the problem.
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