HP Compaq 15-s108na 15.6 inch 8GB 1TB Laptop 250.00 @ argos
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HP Compaq 15-s108na 15.6 inch 8GB 1TB Laptop 250.00 @ argos

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Found 27th Jan 2015
I thought this was a pretty decent laptop. just for general purpose. the average price of a general purpose laptop is about £300 and is about half the spec of this.

It's basically swapping more performance for no dvd drive.
Or...A glorified netbook...if you're a pessimist.

Although burning discs is more a specialist thing thanks to usb / smart tv's and iPod / iTunes.

Intel Celeron N2840 dual core 2.16GHz
8GB RAM. 1tb hard drive.
15.6 inch screen. Resolution 1366 x 768
SD card
2 USB 2.0
1 USB 3.0
HDMI

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too pricey for a celeron ....... would never recommend a celeron to anyone - ever!

cleron are really not really worth the bother

Whats the one to get instead of celeron then as Im on the hunt for a laptop?

surfinbird

Whats the one to get instead of celeron then as Im on the hunt for a … Whats the one to get instead of celeron then as Im on the hunt for a laptop?



i3 or i5 or the bat computer

surfinbird

Whats the one to get instead of celeron then as Im on the hunt for a … Whats the one to get instead of celeron then as Im on the hunt for a laptop?



me too. been on here every day in the hope!

Original Poster

Lets be honest....None of you do anything of great importance on a laptop.
In fact your best buying low-mid grade cpu's as the cooling needed is impossible to achieve in a laptop.

It's why most people find their laptop is slow after 2-3 years, cas the cpu's had it, when they should have got about 5 yrs.

Yes dilettantes always bang on about cpu performance....But can any of you explain why you would need an i3 in a pc you look at the net, download, mp3 / mp4 playback. Do you go to work in a sports car, or do you use an average car?
So why would you get just a processor that can handle 4-8 times the data transfer rate of the max of any of the applications you would be using.

Before you answer...We're in the real world...CPU's are like dong envy.

I just want something that I can use for university.

Metal Gear Coffe

It's why most people find their laptop is slow after 2-3 years, cas the … It's why most people find their laptop is slow after 2-3 years, cas the cpu's had it, when they should have got about 5 yrs.



A CPUs performance does not degrade noticeably over time.

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Zub

A CPUs performance does not degrade noticeably over time.


That's rubbish. I can't even begin to describe how idiotic that statement is.
Do you even know why a heat sync exists. Perhaps you should patent your pc, as you've managed to invent the worlds first room temperature super conductor.

this is ok for basic. gonna buy one for wife to do uni work on and also today I can get £10 voucher from argos as well so thanks for the post.

Original Poster

SL7

I just want something that I can use for university.


You should just thick of your budget. Just make sure you get a decent warranty and the most for your money based on your needs. Which, being honest, is the same as about 90% of all laptop users.

You need a warranty because a lot of laptops are made with a soldered chipset. Meaning some/all the chips are permanently fixed to the motherboard. which in turn, means if one breaks the whole pc is done. This is what's help reduce new prices over the last 5 years as it's cheaper for the manufacturer.

The most confusing thing is the unqualified self proclaimed experts. They all think the faster cpu is the golden rule, but the two things they don't get is the faster the cpu the more heat it puts out...and heat kills chips.

Then, why buy a high performance cpu for regular use. Nobody, who knows what they're doing, buys a laptop for a specialist use.

Metal Gear Coffe

That's rubbish. I can't even begin to describe how idiotic that statement … That's rubbish. I can't even begin to describe how idiotic that statement is.Do you even know why a heat sync exists. Perhaps you should patent your pc, as you've managed to invent the worlds first room temperature super conductor.


Maybe before you go calling people idiots you should understand what you are taking about first?

A CPU will not degrade or slow down over time. Most of the slowdown people experience is due to software cruft and installing loads of rubbish on it. I've got an old Dell D830 with a fast Core 2 chip and Quadro Graphics that's still as fast (Probably faster with the SSD) as when it left the factory, even with Vista.

In the case of a laptop the CPU can go into thermal throttling when the cooling system gets clogged over time. Clean the dust out and it will be back to normal. The only way you could kill a chip is running with no cooling system at all, and even then modern CPUs will just throttle down or shut out to save the system.

Some thermally constrained systems will throttle the max turbo boost, but that's mainly a problem in very thin units.

Oh, and it's heat sink by the way.

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Chinny_racoon

Maybe before you go calling people idiots you should understand what you … Maybe before you go calling people idiots you should understand what you are taking about first? A CPU will not degrade or slow down over time. Most of the slowdown people experience is due to software cruft and installing loads of rubbish on it. I've got an old Dell D830 with a fast Core 2 chip and Quadro Graphics that's still as fast (Probably faster with the SSD) as when it left the factory, even with Vista. In the case of a laptop the CPU can go into thermal throttling when the cooling system gets clogged over time. Clean the dust out and it will be back to normal. The only way you could kill a chip is running with no cooling system at all, and even then modern CPUs will just throttle down or shut out to save the system. Some thermally constrained systems will throttle the max turbo boost, but that's mainly a problem in very thin units. Oh, and it's heat sink by the way.



"I've got an old Dell D830 with a fast Core 2 chip and Quadro Graphics " Yeah that's because the portion of the cpu that has worn out was never really needed so you don't know the difference as you use your laptop for the same as everyone else.

"modern CPUs will just throttle down"...Man you're living in OJ land...ALL cpu's can only throttle up...They switch to 1 core and burn it out....It's utterly hilarious how arrogant you are.

"but that's mainly a problem in very thin units. " So...that would be EVERY chip being made at the moment.
I love when liars are covering their bases....There's less heat in the newer form factor architecture as the lithograph print is less metal / electricity needed / less heat output.

So...What's your ID number then???
If you know what you're talking about....You'll have your IT engineer ID number that can be looked up on the qualification standard on the net.....LIKE ME.....A fully qualified IT engineer.

Oh I think you'll return to your imaginary world of servers are the same as laptops world.
Hey...May be next time you could stick to you other log in instead of having to pretend to gang up on someone cas you're so insecure.

Just to PROVE to everyone you're a liar...The Dell D830...Was still based on PATA format...ALL SSD's are SATA based...So you're a liar.

I think I would prefer YOUR "engineer id" as you call it to warn people about hiring you. Your attitude leaves much to be desired and much of your advice is laughable.

Despite what you keep saying a CPU does not degrade or slow down over time.

I would GUESS (I'm not a IT guru) that the biggest reason for computers to slow down over time is more due to software and operating systems becoming more resource hungry as software and feature development progresses. run a lightweight Linux system with a light office suite and it will keep flying even after 10 years.


Edited by: "AbuG" 29th Jan 2015

Original Poster

AbuG

I would GUESS (I'm not a IT guru) that the biggest reason for computers … I would GUESS (I'm not a IT guru) that the biggest reason for computers to slow down over time is more due to software and operating systems becoming more resource hungry as software and feature development progresses. run a lightweight Linux system with a light office suite and it will keep flying even after 10 years.

All new software needs more performance. But it's HEAT which is caused by the circuit's resistance to electricity which instantly begins to destroy chips as soon as they are used is what degrades their performance over time.

The new i Series are made from a finer grade of silicon / metal and are like Ferraris.

AMD / Celeron's are like Volvo's or the farmers workhorse. Their made from a coarse grain silicon and usually based on the previous architecture so will never perform like a Ferrari...BUT...Will not put as much heat and won't burn out as quick

So in reality...They're the best for laptop's cas no body who really knows what their doing would use a laptop for anything more than the average user. Boys with toys will always go for cpu power thinking it's the be all and end all.

Metal Gear Coffe

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....You think anyone cares what you think … HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....You think anyone cares what you think anymore....I've proven you're a liar....My "Attitude" is really your disappointment at being caught.Why don't you tell everyone what make this SSD was....Then I'll totally humiliate you with your stupidity...Oh no wait I can do that now...If the CPU doesn't degrade why did you make up a c0ck and balls story of adding a SSD that sped it back up again....Contradicting yourself. Never mind that though....Why did your story centre around the CPU again....Oh that's because, like I said at the beginning,ALL self proclaimed experts in PC's are obsessed with the CPU.....Dong envy.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....



I think you need to read more carefully, I didn't say anything about an SSD. Who is the stupid one now?
Edited by: "Zub" 29th Jan 2015

Come on guys, it's only a laptop..

Metal Gear Coffe

ALL SSD's are SATA based


Wrong?

Original Poster

Chrrye

Wrong?


Yes...But the tech you are talking about could fit in a laptop.
Please do research instead of just trying to catch someone out.

Original Poster

Zub

I think you need to read more carefully, I didn't say anything about an … I think you need to read more carefully, I didn't say anything about an SSD. Who is the stupid one now?


Again...You, because I said you are on under your 2nd ID. You know....When your first ID stopped being used after I caught you out and you had to pretend your were another person agreeing with yourself on this one.
I caught you out again....and then in a bitter and twisted rant you reported me cas you were so disappointed in yourself that you had to lash out in a temper tantrum.

I hope this link helps clear up some misconcpetions here:
http://www.howtogeek.com/130355/is-cpu-performance-affected-by-age/

Voltage is a far greater consideration in silicon degradation than temperature alone.

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