HP Elitebook 8470p/2570p i5, 4GB, NO HDD / CHARGER (Used) - £126 @ SCC Trade
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HP Elitebook 8470p/2570p i5, 4GB, NO HDD / CHARGER (Used) - £126 @ SCC Trade

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Found 6th Jul 2016
These two units are pretty similar aside from screen size.

Yes, these are listed as Grade C, however I emailed them and they said that they're fine but they've had their HDDs pulled (presumably for security). Hopefully you'd all have the good sense to put an SSD in it anyway.

You will need to bring your own charger, but you can pick one up on ebay for a fiver.

There's no OS (there's no hard drive), but the four Elite/Probooks me and friends have had from SCC have always have the Windows 7 key sticker included (and I've seen other reports on here of that).

Now I've got the little niggles out of the way...

These machines are pretty beastly. They're tough as nails (made with from aluminium and magnesium), completely user upgradable with full service manuals direct from HP (My i5 DC, 4GB, 500GB HDD unit is now a i7 QC, 16GB, 256GB RAID0 SSD). USB 3.0.There's also room for using an EGPU.

They're very well supported in the hackintosh and linux communities.

There's a few different clock speeds on the site at this price.

Check out the 2570p owners lounge (a lot of the info is valid on both) over at Tech Inferno: techinferno.com/ind…ge/
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For the brave "** These units are faulty and will need repairing **"
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Ralph888

For the brave "** These units are faulty and will need repairing **"



Like I said, I emailed them and asked, they said that they were just HDD pulls.
would this be covered under distance selling? so if it was really bad could just send back?
justanothercid

would this be covered under distance selling? so if it was really bad … would this be covered under distance selling? so if it was really bad could just send back?



​No states on site no warranty no returns on grade c products
justanothercid

would this be covered under distance selling? so if it was really bad … would this be covered under distance selling? so if it was really bad could just send back?


dafunq

​No states on site no warranty no returns on grade c products


Not convinced a trader's "no returns" statement can override the requirements of Consumer Contracts Regulations effective from 13th June 2014 that provide the consumer an opportunity to view & handle the product as if the consumer had visited the trader's premises to do same, but hey: I am not a legal expert. Minimum consumer obligation would be to fund return delivery on a change of mind, but not for a "not as described".
I've seen plenty of these for a chunk under £150 but those are through business sellers on ebay. Never used nor heard of this company so I won't pass judgement. Personally I went for the Dell E6420 over theses last year - the HDMI out was one of the factors.
COLD (sorry) much better deals from various Ebay sellers for similar specced models - eg here's one for £55 (or £49 for same model without a webcam) - again you need to add HD, you also need to add battery and more ram (should be £20ish for these) but there's also a Windows 7 COA with this ebay.co.uk/itm…AIT - also for £120 you can get various i5 models with chargers, with Windows 7 installed (eg New & Used Laptops For U have lots of them)

Edited by: "joolt" 6th Jul 2016
i would stay away. Ive ordered once before grade B, machine came dented and corner chipped. The seller replied what this should be expected on their grading system. In doubt purchase grade A. But grade A is way more expensive.
Sorry but I'm going to have to vote cold on this one too. SCC trade lost their way a couple of years ago when they stopped being excellent value for money. I picked up an 8440p from them for £140 over 2 years ago that was Graded B and they sell these now for £168. I have no idea what planet they are on that they think old hardware that was sold in their 1000's appreciates in value over that time period.

rectech.co.uk/6,1…tml

An 8470p with some light scuffs to the front and no other issues, including a hard drive and the power cable, windows installed and only £14 more than this deal and at least you don't have to do any other work on it.

I've not even tried much harder than checking one other company to beat this deal which I'm sure is possible.
Edited by: "Astec123" 6th Jul 2016
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exdido

i would stay away. Ive ordered once before grade B, machine came dented … i would stay away. Ive ordered once before grade B, machine came dented and corner chipped. The seller replied what this should be expected on their grading system. In doubt purchase grade A. But grade A is way more expensive.



I've only bought B grade with them and they've been in good nick (maybe some scratches on the bottom, but the visable bits have been fine), but I guess there is a bit of a gamble.


joolt

COLD (sorry) much better deals from various Ebay sellers for similar … COLD (sorry) much better deals from various Ebay sellers for similar specced models - eg here's one for £55 (or £49 for same model without a webcam) - again you need to add HD, you also need to add battery and more ram (should be £20ish for these) but there's also a Windows 7 COA with this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162121912906?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT - also for £120 you can get various i5 models with chargers, with Windows 7 installed (eg New & Used Laptops For U have lots of them)



That's a previous generation i5 (compared to the Elitebook). A compatible battery can be had for ~£20, but an official one looks to be on the other side of £30. The 2GB of RAM is another tenner new. Then include the other things I listed, great build quality, service manuals and upgrades, alt-OS support.

Then lastly, that laptop has no HDD because it has no HDD connecter. It's not going to just be a case of slotting an SSD in there and installing an OS.
woldranger

I've seen plenty of these for a chunk under £150 but those are through … I've seen plenty of these for a chunk under £150 but those are through business sellers on ebay. Never used nor heard of this company so I won't pass judgement. Personally I went for the Dell E6420 over theses last year - the HDMI out was one of the factors.


Don't know why HDMI is always so important to people since DP to HDMI adapters are cheap and small.
Having used both a Latitude E6430s and these, I think the Dell has a lot worse build quality. But then the 8470p is rather heavy.

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Astec123

Sorry but I'm going to have to vote cold on this one too. SCC trade lost … Sorry but I'm going to have to vote cold on this one too. SCC trade lost their way a couple of years ago when they stopped being excellent value for money. I picked up an 8440p from them for £140 over 2 years ago that was Graded B and they sell these now for £168. I have no idea what planet they are on that they think old hardware that was sold in their 1000's appreciates in value over that time period.http://www.rectech.co.uk/6,1538,laptops.laptops_100_149.hp_elitebook_8470p_2.6ghz_320gb_4gb_257.htmlAn 8470p with some light scuffs to the front and no other issues, including a hard drive and the power cable, windows installed and only £14 more than this deal and at least you don't have to do any other work on it. I've not even tried much harder than checking one other company to beat this deal which I'm sure is possible.



I think our definition of 'light scuffs' is different. That said, if you can live with the scuffs, then yeah that's an OK price, especially if you don't intend to put an SSD straight into it.

I'll admit that £168 is a bit steep for the B grade 8470p (I paid that for mine in December and was happy with it, but that's neither here nor there), but when you factor in a charger and SSD for this one, it's about the same as Rectech's best 8470p + delivery.

Then again, Rechtech wants £170 for an 8440p, so it's nice to have multiple options in case one changes their prices, init.
I bought a grade B 2570p with 4g/320gig via a posting on here for 139 a few weeks ago. I was so impressed with the machine that I bid on another grade B machine last week and got it for 80 quid.
Gkains

Don't know why HDMI is always so important to people since DP to HDMI … Don't know why HDMI is always so important to people since DP to HDMI adapters are cheap and small. Having used both a Latitude E6430s and these, I think the Dell has a lot worse build quality. But then the 8470p is rather heavy.


Had issues with display port drivers on windows 10 on another machine, the first of the Dell's was for my Mother so simple was preferable. I was so impressed I've since bought 2 more. Bulletproof build quality on all of them.
woldranger

Had issues with display port drivers on windows 10 on another machine, … Had issues with display port drivers on windows 10 on another machine, the first of the Dell's was for my Mother so simple was preferable. I was so impressed I've since bought 2 more. Bulletproof build quality on all of them.



​where did u get the dell from?
willyvwade

That's a previous generation i5 (compared to the Elitebook). A compatible … That's a previous generation i5 (compared to the Elitebook). A compatible battery can be had for ~£20, but an official one looks to be on the other side of £30. The 2GB of RAM is another tenner new. Then include the other things I listed, great build quality, service manuals and upgrades, alt-OS support.Then lastly, that laptop has no HDD because it has no HDD connecter. It's not going to just be a case of slotting an SSD in there and installing an OS.



It's a LOT cheaper though - even with spending an extra £30 (for battery, RAM etc) you're still saving £40 and you have the guarantee of it having the Windows 7 COA, it's not just a guess that it might have one. You can get a caddy/ connector for a pound or two so that's not an issue and these Dell machines are also well built
LOL what a post. Cold.
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justonemorepie

I bought a grade B 2570p with 4g/320gig via a posting on here for 139 a … I bought a grade B 2570p with 4g/320gig via a posting on here for 139 a few weeks ago. I was so impressed with the machine that I bid on another grade B machine last week and got it for 80 quid.



A 2570p for 80? Where from?
You can update the processor. Ok that's interesting, how much was the i7?
Can anyone recommend a reliable, low cost refurb that would be easy to set up as a Hackintosh? Ideally with working wifi and webcam and not too much messing about with patching files? Or maybe even using iatkos?
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dwl99

Can anyone recommend a reliable, low cost refurb that would be easy to … Can anyone recommend a reliable, low cost refurb that would be easy to set up as a Hackintosh? Ideally with working wifi and webcam and not too much messing about with patching files? Or maybe even using iatkos?



The Intel CPU & GPU Pro and Elite Books are pretty simple.

WiFi does usually require a WiFi card change, but this is a 10 minute job (with full instructions available from HP). After that, you run a normal OS X Install from USB, reboot, run the HP Installer and it's good to go.

tonymacx86.com/thr…36/
These are good machines and personally I have never had any problems with the grade C laptops I have ordered from SCC trade over the last few years (over half a dozen). I always go for Grade C without a HDD as I'll be putting an SSD in it anyway (who wants a well worn HDD?), rather than a Grade C with a HDD as I tend to assume it is grade C for another reason and I don't want that.

There have been comments before about how SCC Trade have got expensive but I still consider them worth a look, although I do think they need to supply original PSUs if possible. I don't like the risk with cheap OEM PSUs, you just don't know what you are getting. Buying laptops this way isn't for everyone though, if you aren't prepared to set it up and fiddle with the hardware yourself then it isn't for you.

+1 for Hackintoshing, I have a 2560p in an HP dock with 16Gb RAM / 256Gb SSD running El Capitan flawlessly. The fan is a little eager though

Yep, prices at SSC have skyrocketed. Used to be good value grade b machines and grade c for ~£30, now a waste of time taking a risk on a grade c for over £100!
willyvwade

A 2570p for 80? Where from?



​EBay. all it was missing was the plastic cover on the Bluetooth module.
Pondlife

You can update the processor. Ok that's interesting, how much was the i7?



there aren't a lot of i7 processors that you can use. However there is a couple of quad cores that would make this a very respectable machine. I haven't seen them though for under a hundred quid add yet.

also for anyone buying one of these without a drive, make sure you get the hd adapter plug do that you can use a standard drive. otherwise you area looking at another few quid to get one - and delivery time.
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justonemorepie

there aren't a lot of i7 processors that you can use. However there is a … there aren't a lot of i7 processors that you can use. However there is a couple of quad cores that would make this a very respectable machine. I haven't seen them though for under a hundred quid add yet.also for anyone buying one of these without a drive, make sure you get the hd adapter plug do that you can use a standard drive. otherwise you area looking at another few quid to get one - and delivery time.



I got an i7-3720QM for $102 delivered from eBay US
Does that run at 45w?
Bought an HP 2570p from SCC trade on Monday for £88 delivered today (had a price drop).Grade C, a few small dings on the lid otherwise perfect. Had the win 7 sticker under the battery, following a clean install of windows 10 it still activated (using the win 7 key) even though its past 29 July, so SCC do still have a few deals

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Edited by: "edash" 4th Aug 2016
edash

Bought an HP 2570p from SCC trade on Monday for £88 delivered today (had … Bought an HP 2570p from SCC trade on Monday for £88 delivered today (had a price drop).Grade C, a few small dings on the lid otherwise perfect. Had the win 7 sticker under the battery, following a clean install of windows 10 it still activated (using the win 7 key) even though its past 29 July, so SCC do still have a few deals :)forum image hosting



I'm not so convinced, while it's a pretty a reasonable deal given the specs, it's a lot of risk to buy given that you have to get the PSU and risk it being a complete dud on arrival as they are sold as such with no helpful information. If you just purchased a 2570p it would be at from 2012 so now 4 years old.

I picked up an X200 in Q1 2013 which released in Q3 2008 as below (missing only a hard disk and otherwise in pretty much unused condition) so 4 years and 6 months old. The missing hard drive is one key way with SCH/SCC to get a machine that's isn't a wreck, otherwise you really just take a big risk.

http://i.imgur.com/4ccV6uo.png

Those sorts of deals were a regular feature on SCH trade but now there are very few unmissable deals from them which is a big shame considering how many items I'd purchased from them.


Edited by: "Astec123" 4th Aug 2016
...suppose Astec you wont think too much of this 2470p touch screen that is like new that I bought last week either
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(ps its actually 2.53ghz cpu, error in the listing)
Edited by: "edash" 4th Aug 2016
I started buying from them in 2012 and never got such bargains, I paid more than that for a X61 (in 2012 though). My invoices on my account only start in 2013 as I think I bought the first few without creating an account, the first invoiced one is a X200 in Q3 2013 for £71.25. It was missing a key from the keyboard and had a crack in the case that was impossible to fix without epoxying it quite a bit. My dad still uses it daily! (I did replace the missing key)

I still think these are good value but personally I've always got excellent batteries (all HP machines with > 90% design capacity remaining) from the machines bought from SCCTrade.

They've got a few Elitebook 2560p/8460p machines for 88 quid, also some X201 and X220 machines for 88 quid too - woohoo! Must resist... I have enough already... sure what would I use them for...
edash

...suppose Astec you wont think too much of this 2470p touch screen that … ...suppose Astec you wont think too much of this 2470p touch screen that is like new that I bought last week either[/url]image hosting 10mb limit[/img](ps its actually 2.53ghz cpu, error in the listing)



That's a first gen i5 processor which is 1 year newer than my X200 and being honest wholesale/spares units about the going rate. Not saying it's a bad deal, just that I'm frustrated with SCC/SCH having decided to up their prices.

What I'm pointing out here is not that you didn't get a good deal, more than SCH trade have moved the boundaries. I picked up a B grade 8440p for £140 in August 2013. A short time later after I picked up that bargain (it still had 6months warranty) they upped the price to £168 so an increase of £28. The prices now vary in the last few weeks between £168 and £192 despite the fact that the hardware is another 3 years older since the price has increased. I check the pages nearly daily and have yet to see a single machine in their 'grade B' range to be cheaper than what I picked up 3 years ago.

Interestingly I'm unaware of any computers of note in the last 20 years that have appreciated in value as the curve is generally towards the dropping in value. This is the crux of my point that SCH have lost their way being a good value supplier to now just being average as I can get similar deals in about a dozen different suppliers with some cases being better listed to know what you are going to get. It's why I've not purchased from them in 3 years despite a number of successive purchases before that time and why I encourage others to consider buying elsewhere.
Edited by: "Astec123" 5th Aug 2016
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