HP EliteBook Folio G1 4K Touchscreen - £649.97 @ saveonlaptops
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HP EliteBook Folio G1 4K Touchscreen - £649.97 @ saveonlaptops

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HP EliteBook Folio G1
Intel Core M7-6Y75 Dual Core Processor
12.5" 4K Ultra HD Touch Screen
Microsoft Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
8GB DDR4 RAM
240GB SSD
Integrated Graphics
USB3 | Bluetooth
Includes 3 year Warranty Included
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Looks like a good deal for a 4k touchscreen but appreciate not for everyone. I have the retina Macbook and would have probably gone for this instead at this price.

happy 2017!

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Looks like a great price just a shame about the core m processor :-/ but for a 4K display heat

Original Poster

i agree - processor a bit wimpy but rest of specs better then average

Wow great specs for the price

Is this gloss or matt screen?

gooeynote

Is this gloss or matt screen?



Gloss

jayd95

Looks like a great price just a shame about the core m processor :-/ but … Looks like a great price just a shame about the core m processor :-/ but for a 4K display heat



It's a 12.5" screen, so designed for lightweight for portability, the Reason for the Core M is to get out as much battery life as possible form a portable notebook. So perfect CPU imo

4k on a 12.5" screen? That's overkill.

Rotten battery life, great screen. Price is good although the overinflated RRP is silly). Have some heat.

M7 = fanless right?

Eez1

M7 = fanless right?


Yeah this has passive cooling.

From the reviews it uses the body as a big heatsink.
Edited by: "callum84" 1st Jan

Uridium

It's a 12.5" screen, so designed for lightweight for portability, the … It's a 12.5" screen, so designed for lightweight for portability, the Reason for the Core M is to get out as much battery life as possible form a portable notebook. So perfect CPU imo



I understand the reasoning for it but other manufacturers have managed to fit a core i5/i7u processor into smaller a chassis

jayd95

I understand the reasoning for it but other manufacturers have managed to … I understand the reasoning for it but other manufacturers have managed to fit a core i5/i7u processor into smaller a chassis


Its not about the physical size of cpu, its the balance of size, power and battery life.


What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:

1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.00

2) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)

3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)

4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.99

5) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AO

Needs to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you

That's superb value at the price considering the balance of ultra-portability, Apple-like build quality, fanless chassis and more than adequate Desktop performance. It's a shame about the relatively poor battery life on this 4K variant (4-5 hours), and speed-limited SATA SSD interface (which really is a bit of a design fail for this kind of machine). That's enough to put me off (along with the gloss screen), and I suspect the reason for the hefty discount to clear stock.
Edited by: "Furyous" 1st Jan

Furyous

That's superb value at the price considering the balance of … That's superb value at the price considering the balance of ultra-portability, Apple-like build quality, fanless chassis and more than adequate Desktop performance. It's a shame about the relatively poor battery life on this 4K variant (4-5 hours), and speed-limited SATA SSD interface (which really is a bit of a design fail for this kind of machine). That's enough to put me off (along with the gloss screen), and I suspect the reason for the hefty discount to clear stock.


Any info on the SATA interface restriction and how this affects performance would be appreciated.
I can overlook the mediocre battery life and gloss screen.
Edited by: "callum84" 1st Jan

SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. That's still fast. Much faster than a mechanical HDD. But SSD drives can perform at much higher read/write speeds. For example, the Samsung 960 Pro drives are rated up to 3500MB/s read speed. That's an extreme example, but with an NVMe/PCIe interface/drive, measured read/write speeds are often 2-3x greater than SATA-limited drives. The SSD drives aren't particularly any more expensive either. So the fact that HP didn't fit a PCIe interface/drive as standard is a bit poor, especially considering that their target competition (the 12" Macbook) does include PCIe based storage as standard.
Edited by: "Furyous" 1st Jan

Furyous

SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. That's still fast. Much faster than a … SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. That's still fast. Much faster than a mechanical HDD. But SSD drives can perform at much higher read/write speeds. For example, the Samsung 960 Pro drives are rated up to 3500MB/s read speed. That's an extreme example, but with an NVMe/PCIe interface/drive, measured read/write speeds are often 2-3x greater than SATA-limited drives. The SSD drives aren't particularly any more expensive either. So the fact that HP didn't fit a PCIe interface/drive as standard is a bit poor, especially considering that their target competition (the 12" Macbook) does include PCIe based storage as standard.


Thanks!

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for … What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.002) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.995) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AONeeds to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you


Id recommend you number 4 on your list. With number 3 been a close second

callum84

Its not about the physical size of cpu, its the balance of size, power … Its not about the physical size of cpu, its the balance of size, power and battery life.



True but this thing has 4 hours battery life they weren't shooting for the stars :-/

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for … What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.002) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.995) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AONeeds to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you



I bought the acer aspire s13 as it's got better battery life over the swift and it's thinner and lighter , the processor benchmarks pretty much the same as it's the same cpu but the i3 has turbo turned off and I don't really care about storage as an ultrabook to me is word documents, web browsing and online video

jayd95

True but this thing has 4 hours battery life they weren't shooting for … True but this thing has 4 hours battery life they weren't shooting for the stars :-/


4 hours id say is acceptable.
Increase cpu power and you might get 3, even less if you need to reduce battery size to accomodate cooling.

I get what your saying though. Personally I think they should have made it a few mm thicker, better cpu and bigger battery.

Im still tempted though

Furyous

SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. That's still fast. Much faster than a … SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. That's still fast. Much faster than a mechanical HDD. But SSD drives can perform at much higher read/write speeds. For example, the Samsung 960 Pro drives are rated up to 3500MB/s read speed. That's an extreme example, but with an NVMe/PCIe interface/drive, measured read/write speeds are often 2-3x greater than SATA-limited drives. The SSD drives aren't particularly any more expensive either. So the fact that HP didn't fit a PCIe interface/drive as standard is a bit poor, especially considering that their target competition (the 12" Macbook) does include PCIe based storage as standard.



Nothing stopping you swapping the SSD for an NVMe one.

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for … What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.002) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.995) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AONeeds to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you



​would of put the Dell outlet 5000 in there

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for … What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.002) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.995) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AONeeds to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you



The macbook air will probably hold its value better than everything else on that list. You can install windows on it if that's your preference too.

Nice. This is a high end ultraportable. I like the thin/light form factor - but that 4K resolution kills battery life and is completely unnecessary on a 12.5" screen, and that hinge looks wobbly.

https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/hp-elitebook-folio-g1/review/

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/hp-elitebook-folio-g1

If this was £599 with a 1080p screen, I'd give it an easy HOT, but neither hot nor cold at this spec.


Edited by: "Picard123" 2nd Jan

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for … What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.002) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.995) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AONeeds to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you



The Folio G1 is the most 'high end' out of all those. Not only is it thin/light but it's more durable in terms of build as it's MIL-STD 810G compliant. Not only did they do all sorts of drop tests when designing it but they left it in the desert to design it to be dust / heat proof etc. Superb keyboard as well. The Windows Hello camera is also a nifty feature. Two things that are silly - the 4K screen is visually stunning but it has a really negative effect on battery life (3-4 hours battery life is ridiculous for something that's intended as an ultraportable), and the fanless design makes the bottom of the laptop run pretty hot (a consideration if you want to use it on your lap).
Edited by: "Picard123" 2nd Jan

Picard123

The Folio G1 is the most 'high end' out of all those. Not only is it … The Folio G1 is the most 'high end' out of all those. Not only is it thin/light but it's more durable in terms of build as it's MIL-STD 810G compliant. Not only did they do all sorts of drop tests when designing it but they left it in the desert to design it to be dust / heat proof etc. The Windows Hello camera is also a nifty feature. Two things that are silly - that 4K screen due to its effect on battery life (3-4 hours battery life is ridiculous for something that's intended as an ultraportable), and the fanless design makes the bottom of the laptop run pretty hot (a consideration if you want to use it on your lap).



So how come it isn't boiling hot.
Also people suggested Acer ultrabooks

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

So how come it isn't boiling hot.Also people suggested Acer ultrabooks



It's a 4.5W ULV CPU.

Contrast that with a i7-6700HQ. That's 45W.....

Picard123

It's a 4.5W ULV CPU.Contrast that with a i7-6700HQ. That's 45W.....



What does it mean?

callum84

4 hours id say is acceptable.



Not if you need a laptop to last the working day. Or you're out and about, at a conference etc.

Picard123

Not if you need a laptop to last the working day. Or you're out and … Not if you need a laptop to last the working day. Or you're out and about, at a conference etc.


What i meant and should have said is 4 hours is on the border of acceptable, any less and would be no use.
When I say acceptable I mean a step above insufficent and one below good.

callum84

What i meant and should have said is 4 hours is on the border of … What i meant and should have said is 4 hours is on the border of acceptable, any less and would be no use.When I say acceptable I mean a step above insufficent and one below good.



It's still not really acceptable, unless you're planning to use mostly plugged into the mains (in which case, why buy a laptop?)

Don't forget that batteries wear with usage and battery life reduces as they only have a finite number of charging cycles. Use that laptop every day and after 2 or 3 years, that 4 hour battery life will have probably dropped to 2-3 hours. HP batteries are really expensive to replace as well, and AFAIK, these don't have an HP equivalent of Lenovo Energy Manager where you can hold the battery at 60% charge when plugged in to reduce battery wear.

It's a shame really as it's a fantastic laptop (screen, keyboard, weight, durability etc) apart from that.
Edited by: "Picard123" 2nd Jan

Picard123

It's still really not acceptable, unless you're planning to use it as a … It's still really not acceptable, unless you're planning to use it as a desktop (in which case, why buy a laptop?)Don't forget that batteries wear with usage and battery life reduces. Use that laptop every day and after 2 or 3 years, that 4 hour battery life will have probably dropped to 2-3 hours. HP batteries are really expensive to replace as well.It's a shame really as it's a fantastic laptop (screen, keyboard, weight etc) apart from that.


Acceptable for someone like me as wouldnt be using for more than an hour or 2 at a time and never far from a powerpoint.

I did say though in the post you quoted that personally id have prefered it a few mm thicker and a bigger battery.

I was tempted but starting to talk myself out it and move more towards an i5 QHD Zenbook for £100 more.

Edited by: "callum84" 2nd Jan

integrated graphics fail

Original Poster

It's a ultrabook that's 12mm thick according to the spec sheet...

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for … What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.002) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.995) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AONeeds to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you


Probably the Lenova there... seems the best all arounder/value for money

jayd95

I understand the reasoning for it but other manufacturers have managed to … I understand the reasoning for it but other manufacturers have managed to fit a core i5/i7u processor into smaller a chassis



​clearly you know nothing. Well done

Rude Russy

integrated graphics fail



dumb clueless comment fail

bought, thanks

nublets2k

Nothing stopping you swapping the SSD for an NVMe one.



​Haven't checked the specs. But as far as I'm aware if it's a SATA interface for the drives you won't be able to use a NVMe/PCIe drive. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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