HP Pavilion 14-bk153sa 14" Laptop - Silver £479 @ Currys (Now £469.99)
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HP Pavilion 14-bk153sa 14" Laptop - Silver £479 @ Currys (Now £469.99)

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Found 7th Jan
Hi, thought this seemed a reasonable deal but not sure! Looking for a laptop for our daughter who will be 17 for School work and possible Uni. Want it to last a few years, didn't know if this is a good deal and a reasonable spec for what she wants. No gaming, just web, word processing etc. Or should we look for a 7th gen one. If no good could anyone recommend anything better? Thanks!
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I'd suggest this Lenovo Ideapad 320s
currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-white-10169402-pdt.html

It's a coincidence that today I was in Currys searching for a laptop just for Uni work. After looking at all the laptops, I found this as the best mid-range laptop.The display also looked much better than the HP ones. The storage might be the only issue. Apart from that it has the latest 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 Processor, 128GB SSD and 8GB Ram which should be more than enough even for demanding school tasks. It is 14" so pretty portable. I'll be getting one myself this week too for Uni.
Edited by: "hassan010" 7th Jan
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can you add normal 1TTB Hard Drive?
fame1 m ago

can you add normal 1TTB Hard Drive?


It has m.2 SSD so probably not
It’s 469.99 I think it’s already posted on here this laptop. It’s one I’m tempted with as well. Only downside is the 4gb ram, else it beats the Lenovo which is 479 and has 8GB ram.
Been posted loads of times before.

Good =

8th gen i5
Fhd screen
M2/pci-e ssd

Bad =

4gb ram
Only 128gb ssd

Supposedly there’s space for more ram and an additional drive, so to get it to where it needs to be realistically you’re looking at £550 in total.
I'd suggest this Lenovo Ideapad 320s
currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-white-10169402-pdt.html

It's a coincidence that today I was in Currys searching for a laptop just for Uni work. After looking at all the laptops, I found this as the best mid-range laptop.The display also looked much better than the HP ones. The storage might be the only issue. Apart from that it has the latest 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 Processor, 128GB SSD and 8GB Ram which should be more than enough even for demanding school tasks. It is 14" so pretty portable. I'll be getting one myself this week too for Uni.
Edited by: "hassan010" 7th Jan
There is the possibility of topcashback today only. I'm not sure whether it will count though because Currys do their cutback excluding VAT, so the 'Windows laptops over £399" is a bit ambiguous. I've emailed to ask, but won't hear back today so don't make your decision based on that (although you can return obviously...).

There's a useful thread here which has a picture of the back of the laptop open to show that its relatively easy to replace the RAM (although getting the casing off is apparently annoying). The deal went cold but its not clear why. Seems a good deal - particularly as the battery seems decent.
This seems to have a better battery than the lenovo, as quoted 11.5 Hours , lenovo claims 7, but seems to be less than that in use. any ideas
planthead14 m ago

This seems to have a better battery than the lenovo, as quoted 11.5 Hours …This seems to have a better battery than the lenovo, as quoted 11.5 Hours , lenovo claims 7, but seems to be less than that in use. any ideas


They'll all be less than the stated battery life. HP is 3 cell though which means that it will be substantively more. Drawback of this laptop over the Lenovo is only 4gb ram. Seems upgradeable to me though (whereas perhaps harder to upgrade a battery). I think the HP has a better screen too, but you'd need to go in and have a look to be sure.
Gestr5 h, 32 m ago

They'll all be less than the stated battery life. HP is 3 cell though …They'll all be less than the stated battery life. HP is 3 cell though which means that it will be substantively more. Drawback of this laptop over the Lenovo is only 4gb ram. Seems upgradeable to me though (whereas perhaps harder to upgrade a battery). I think the HP has a better screen too, but you'd need to go in and have a look to be sure.


The battery on the HP is rated for 41.9Wh.
Check the reviews and the pavilion in store, everyone mentions the display is not good.
endothecat2 h, 21 m ago

Check the reviews and the pavilion in store, everyone mentions the display …Check the reviews and the pavilion in store, everyone mentions the display is not good.


I haven't been in-store to check the pavilion yet, but the two comparable 14" laptops with 8th generation processor (asus from ao for 429 & Lenovo from Currys for 479) don't have magical screens either.

What review did you find by the way? I found it very hard to get a review for a comparable pavilion model.
diktiomenos7 h, 42 m ago

The battery on the HP is rated for 41.9Wh.


Thanks again.

For anyone who is also trying to make a decision.. I emailed AO.com to ask about the vivobook and they said the battery is a 3 cell lithium 42Whour battery. So probably broadly comparable. Then it just becomes HP probably has a better screen (I only say probably because I haven't seen either. It must do), but not the 8gb of Ram, but you can replace that. The asus is cheaper too which obviously matters. I'd rule the Lenovo out based on battery life (2 cell lithium and reportedly rubbish in various reviews here and there).
Gestr12 m ago

I haven't been in-store to check the pavilion yet, but the two comparable …I haven't been in-store to check the pavilion yet, but the two comparable 14" laptops with 8th generation processor (asus from ao for 429 & Lenovo from Currys for 479) don't have magical screens either. What review did you find by the way? I found it very hard to get a review for a comparable pavilion model.


I really wanted to like it, there's one for £699 that I could get for £630 with £30 TCB and a discount on gift cards, but the display in store was all washed out compared to others. You can't find exactly the same specs, but here's a few Pavilion 14 reviews. I found notebookcheck to be quite useful.

which.co.uk/reviews/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-intel-core

notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-14-al103ng-Notebook-Review.189777.0.html

notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-14-Series.183176.0.html

Notebookcheck:
Although the installed screen is a viewing-angle stable IPS model, it only has a very low brightness as well as a glossy surface.

Which:
A good all-rounder, slightly tarnished by a disappointing screen 74%
Screen is dull and uninspiring
SCREEN QUALITY
2 out of 5
The screen is lacklustre with no pop or sparkle
Edited by: "endothecat" 8th Jan
Thanks for the Which summary - which I found but couldn't access - and the helpful comment overall. I think the screen on that one is quite different. At least according to Curry's the bk052sa has an LCD 1366 x 768 screen. The one in this deal, the bk153sa has an IPS 1920-1080. I think you have to see the screen really. The Lenovo ideapad 320s at Currys with an 8th gen processor has a good screen on paper but I wasn't impressed with it in-store: I'd advise people where possible to go look in-store and make their own mind up.


The notebook check review on the screen is probably quite revealing. I think at this price point its hard to get a perfect screen though with all the other hardware. The HP website implies the two screens (al103ng and bk153sa) are slightly different, but if anything the al103ng is meant to be better on brightness (boasting UWVA BrightView as opposed to the bk which has anti-glare instead).

I suspect my comments are not helping anyone :).


I have to achieve things sadly today, but I'll try and look in-store later and report back. My eyes and experience in such matters aren't the best though.
endothecat16 h, 13 m ago

I really wanted to like it, there's one for £699 that I could get for £630 …I really wanted to like it, there's one for £699 that I could get for £630 with £30 TCB and a discount on gift cards, but the display in store was all washed out compared to others. You can't find exactly the same specs, but here's a few Pavilion 14 reviews. I found notebookcheck to be quite useful.which.co.uk/reviews/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-intel-corenotebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-14-al103ng-Notebook-Review.189777.0.htmlnotebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-14-Series.183176.0.htmlNotebookcheck:Although the installed screen is a viewing-angle stable IPS model, it only has a very low brightness as well as a glossy surface.Which:A good all-rounder, slightly tarnished by a disappointing screen 74%Screen is dull and uninspiringSCREEN QUALITY2 out of 5The screen is lacklustre with no pop or sparkle


These links are useless, both models mentioned are different than the one in this deal (the 14-bk052sa has the same chassis though) and have different screens.


14-al103ng has a full HD but glossy display and 14-bk052sa has a 1366*768 matte one.
diktiomenos5 h, 26 m ago

These links are useless, both models mentioned are different than the one …These links are useless, both models mentioned are different than the one in this deal (the 14-bk052sa has the same chassis though) and have different screens.14-al103ng has a full HD but glossy display and 14-bk052sa has a 1366*768 matte one.


Well, you may think they're useless, but they did prompt a store visit that confirmed that the screen was particularly bad on all the Pavilions on display which made me change my mind. So they were useful for me. The issue isn't about resolution anyway.
Edited by: "endothecat" 9th Jan
Nice, it's dropped another tenner now too
Is it worth waiting for a hardware fix for spectre and meltdown from Intel in their next gen CPUs or does it not matter?
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fandyboy41 m ago

Is it worth waiting for a hardware fix for spectre and meltdown from Intel …Is it worth waiting for a hardware fix for spectre and meltdown from Intel in their next gen CPUs or does it not matter?


It's not something worth waiting for. It's fixed at the OS level. If you were the CEO of a fortune 500 company, then perhaps you might have more concern.
NeoTrix46 m ago

Nice, it's dropped another tenner now too


Nah - it's been £469.99 for ages. Was just posted incorrectly
(see post 3).
Edited by: "Gestr" 9th Jan
alienbats26 m ago

This is much better …This is much better IMHOhttps://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-grey-10169401-pdt.html#srcid=11026


More Ram certainly. Battery is weaker though. I haven't seen the HP yet so cannot comment too much on build quality etc, but I thought the Lenovo screen was average.
philpw17th Jan

Been posted loads of times before.Good = 8th gen i5Fhd screenM2/pci-e ssd …Been posted loads of times before.Good = 8th gen i5Fhd screenM2/pci-e ssd Bad =4gb ram Only 128gb ssdSupposedly there’s space for more ram and an additional drive, so to get it to where it needs to be realistically you’re looking at £550 in total.


4GB RAM isn't necessary bad. I wouldn't upgrade the RAM unless I could see I was using more RAM than required. For most general tasks it's enough. People expect 8GB RAM these days though and it's more about that than it being absolutely necessary.
Given the purpose, I will suggest a chromebook. A decent one will cost half of this price tag.
fishmaster20 m ago

4GB RAM isn't necessary bad. I wouldn't upgrade the RAM unless I could see …4GB RAM isn't necessary bad. I wouldn't upgrade the RAM unless I could see I was using more RAM than required. For most general tasks it's enough. People expect 8GB RAM these days though and it's more about that than it being absolutely necessary.


If it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 32bit then it means upgrading to 8GB RAM is pointless as the 32bit OS won't pick up anything over 4GB.

It's it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 64bit, the OS is already using 2GB of your 4GB. Doesn't leave you with much left, so multitasking is going to be slow. If all you're doing is browsing the internet then 4GB is fine, e.g. something like a Chromebook, but nobody who buys a device which has an 8th gen I5 would be using it for just browsing I suspect, so the 4GB is going to be a bottleneck.
philpw134 m ago

If it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 32bit then it means upgrading to 8GB …If it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 32bit then it means upgrading to 8GB RAM is pointless as the 32bit OS won't pick up anything over 4GB.It's it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 64bit, the OS is already using 2GB of your 4GB. Doesn't leave you with much left, so multitasking is going to be slow. If all you're doing is browsing the internet then 4GB is fine, e.g. something like a Chromebook, but nobody who buys a device which has an 8th gen I5 would be using it for just browsing I suspect, so the 4GB is going to be a bottleneck.


You're talking complete twaddle there I'm afraid.
Hi, I would suggest going into John Lewis stores. They have plenty reduced to clear laptops. Most of them were X'Mas / New Year gifts returned to make money. I personally did visit two stores...ended buying Lenovo Ideapad 320s-14 for £220 with 2 years JL guarantee. The laptop came with i3 7th gen processor, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD - no DVD / CD. Its certainly worth a visit.
ollie8710 m ago

You're talking complete twaddle there I'm afraid.


Source for your fake news where a 32bit OS can see over 3.2gb of ram?
philpw116 m ago

Source for your fake news where a 32bit OS can see over 3.2gb of ram?


Hahaha. Wow. Way to miss the point.

1) I can promise you this won't have a 32bit OS installed - HP doesn't even offer 32bit drivers for this model
2) You seem to completely misunderstand:
a) how RAM is used
b) what a page-file is
c) how little RAM Windows 10 needs to run effectively
3) Look at how expensive RAM is currently, check for yourself at the prices of DDR4
4) You used the phrase "fake news" implying you were "triggered" by someone questioning the bunk you were spreading

4GB of RAM for 99% of people is fine. No one is going to be doing any serious work on a £470 HP laptop, it's a throw-away consumer device. An SSD is far more important than extra RAM, you will notice it far more.
Edited by: "ollie87" 9th Jan
ollie871 h, 45 m ago

Hahaha. Wow. Way to miss the point.1) I can promise you this won't have a …Hahaha. Wow. Way to miss the point.1) I can promise you this won't have a 32bit OS installed - HP doesn't even offer 32bit drivers for this model2) You seem to completely misunderstand: a) how RAM is used b) what a page-file is c) how little RAM Windows 10 needs to run effectively3) Look at how expensive RAM is currently, check for yourself at the prices of DDR44) You used the phrase "fake news" implying you were "triggered" by someone questioning the bunk you were spreading4GB of RAM for 99% of people is fine. No one is going to be doing any serious work on a £470 HP laptop, it's a throw-away consumer device. An SSD is far more important than extra RAM, you will notice it far more.


I understand what a pagefile is and how it works, I also know that a pagefile isn't a substitute for DDR4 RAM. A device needs both, hence why you don't disable the pagefile when you have 32GB of RAM, but DDR4 is faster than the read/write speeds for the pagefile, even on an SSD. By your logic, everyone only needs 2GB of RAM and then let the pagefile do the rest?

I agree you'll see more benefit from an SSD than going from 4GB to 8GB of RAM, but that wasn't ever in question. I'm comparing this ~£500 HP device to a similarly priced Lenovo, which matches it in terms of FHD/SSD, but the HP falls down due to half of the RAM of the Lenovo.

The Lenovo has a **** battery which is much harder to replace, so if battery life is important then getting the HP and paying to upgrade the RAM to 8GB would be first on my list. Battery life not important to you as it'll be used at home infront of the TV? Then the Lenovo is the better option.

You may be in a position where dropping £500 device on something is deemed a 'throwaway consumer device' but for a lot of people this won't be the case. This is a deals page, and for the same amount of money Lenovo are offering something which is better value for money and saves you having to **** about with buying and installing additional components which lots of people won't want to do. IMO a 'throw away consumer device' would be the £250 devices that are being posted which have no longevity to them at all.
Edited by moderator: "removed swear word" 9th Jan
If you're looking for a laptop to last for the next 5 or so years you might as well look at the macbooks! Far superior machines which will last the lenght of time needed
hassan0107th Jan

I'd suggest this Lenovo Ideapad …I'd suggest this Lenovo Ideapad 320scurrys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-white-10169402-pdt.htmlIt's a coincidence that today I was in Currys searching for a laptop just for Uni work. After looking at all the laptops, I found this as the best mid-range laptop.The display also looked much better than the HP ones. The storage might be the only issue. Apart from that it has the latest 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 Processor, 128GB SSD and 8GB Ram which should be more than enough even for demanding school tasks. It is 14" so pretty portable. I'll be getting one myself this week too for Uni.


I would second this I got this laptop last week and am very impressed the spec is better that the HP laptop mentioned. Also for uni this would be good as it is very thin and light. However a note on the Lenovo the battery is not amazing 3 -3.5 hours ISH and is built in
I mean. We've had a fair few comments about the Lenovo laptop. Has anyone bought this one and been impressed/not so impressed?
philpw13 h, 23 m ago

If it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 32bit then it means upgrading to 8GB …If it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 32bit then it means upgrading to 8GB RAM is pointless as the 32bit OS won't pick up anything over 4GB.It's it's got 4GB RAM and Windows 10 64bit, the OS is already using 2GB of your 4GB. Doesn't leave you with much left, so multitasking is going to be slow. If all you're doing is browsing the internet then 4GB is fine, e.g. something like a Chromebook, but nobody who buys a device which has an 8th gen I5 would be using it for just browsing I suspect, so the 4GB is going to be a bottleneck.


It won't have Windows 10 32bit installed.
Hi so does the laptop have the capability to be upgraded to 8GB RAM? Because I am hearing here you can and then in-store, assistants told me you can't. I prefer this laptop to Lenovo as it has a better screen and battery, and I would be willing to pay the extra to upgrade the RAM.
dcoop872 h, 40 m ago

I would second this I got this laptop last week and am very impressed the …I would second this I got this laptop last week and am very impressed the spec is better that the HP laptop mentioned. Also for uni this would be good as it is very thin and light. However a note on the Lenovo the battery is not amazing 3 -3.5 hours ISH and is built in


Exactly, I also got it and everything is amazing apart from the battery life. I always have to carry the charger with me.
A few years ago i bought my first and still only laptop, which is a HP Pavilion dv6-6b50sa. i have absolutely no real idea when it comes to computing.I liked the look the number and assortment of connection ports on the sides a dvd tray ( still havent made any yet ) full HD screen a good graphics card ( i was told prior to buying ) beats audio speakers and fingerprint scanner .Its way over spec for what i do which is browse watch sport from time to time and look for stuff, My question please is how would this one compare to mine ( mines a i3 not sure what changes from a 3 to a 5 or i7 ) only thing really an issue apart from age with mine is the battery needs replacing as its gone ( best place for replacements ? )
alienbats9 h, 25 m ago

This is much better …This is much better IMHOhttps://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-grey-10169401-pdt.html#srcid=11026



The spec for both is pretty much identical. I had a look at both in store (i7 versions) and I'm leaning towards the HP. Build quality seemed better to me and the Lenovo doesn't have a backlit keyboard which is disappointing.
mrtea19673 h, 43 m ago

A few years ago i bought my first and still only laptop, which is a HP …A few years ago i bought my first and still only laptop, which is a HP Pavilion dv6-6b50sa. i have absolutely no real idea when it comes to computing.I liked the look the number and assortment of connection ports on the sides a dvd tray ( still havent made any yet ) full HD screen a good graphics card ( i was told prior to buying ) beats audio speakers and fingerprint scanner .Its way over spec for what i do which is browse watch sport from time to time and look for stuff, My question please is how would this one compare to mine ( mines a i3 not sure what changes from a 3 to a 5 or i7 ) only thing really an issue apart from age with mine is the battery needs replacing as its gone ( best place for replacements ? )


If you're happy with yours, keep it.
Otherwise, the cpu in the new one is about 3 times faster. Yours has dedicated graphics chip, but given the age I guess the built-in in the new one will still be faster. The screen is physically smaller, but has higher resolution (are you sure about the dv6-6b50sa having FullHD? Reviews say it's just 1366*768). The new laptop is nearly half the weight.
Your laptop has 6GB RAM, vs 4GB on the new one (and for someone that asked: yes, it is upgradeable but you need to open the bottom cover to access the spare slot) and has a 500GB hard drive vs a 128GB SSD drive.
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