HP Pavilion 14" Intel® Core™ i5 Laptop - 256 GB SSD - £499 @ Currys
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HP Pavilion 14" Intel® Core™ i5 Laptop - 256 GB SSD - £499 @ Currys

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Found 12th Jan
8th gen i5

256 GB SSD

1080p IPS display

11 hour battery

Seems to be the cheapest laptop that includes all these features. Nothing fancy but good spec for the price. If anyone can find any better alternatives please link them
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CENS0RED12th Jan

I have an HP laptop and I can't say I recommend them.


Fair enough but you may want to elaborate on that, otherwise it's a pretty pointless statement... and I mean that in a nice way

I'm not a fan of HPs but for me it's purely a personal thing around their general layout and HP software.
slimjimjim803 m ago

Fair enough but you may want to elaborate on that, otherwise it's a pretty …Fair enough but you may want to elaborate on that, otherwise it's a pretty pointless statement... and I mean that in a nice way I'm not a fan of HPs but for me it's purely a personal thing around their general layout and HP software.


Also the brand is really not that important. Really you’d have to tell us the specs of your crap HP laptop for it to matter. I’m willing to bet it doesn’t have an SSD for starters which makes a massive difference
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I have an HP laptop and I can't say I recommend them.
CENS0RED12th Jan

I have an HP laptop and I can't say I recommend them.


Fair enough but you may want to elaborate on that, otherwise it's a pretty pointless statement... and I mean that in a nice way

I'm not a fan of HPs but for me it's purely a personal thing around their general layout and HP software.
14", its always that way huh, you can get SSD, I5 8TH GEN 1080p but never all of those together with 15.6" under £400. It's always either 14" or not 1080p for that price. More on topic however I think that laptop is well overpriced, refurbs or deals will sell these for £300-400.
slimjimjim803 m ago

Fair enough but you may want to elaborate on that, otherwise it's a pretty …Fair enough but you may want to elaborate on that, otherwise it's a pretty pointless statement... and I mean that in a nice way I'm not a fan of HPs but for me it's purely a personal thing around their general layout and HP software.


Also the brand is really not that important. Really you’d have to tell us the specs of your crap HP laptop for it to matter. I’m willing to bet it doesn’t have an SSD for starters which makes a massive difference
CENS0RED12th Jan

I have an HP laptop and I can't say I recommend them.



Why? saying that you don't recommend it don't give us much info... my experience with HP was 50/50 i was very happy with my elitebook from 2013 and mostly disappointed by my girlfriends 13.3" pavilion until it died few days out of warranty :-'(
I think for a brand new reasonably speced device this isn't bad. All devices have their good and bad points and it's more a case of how much you want to spend and what you're prepared to compromise on. For me now I wouldn't get any device without an SSD drive and probably 8gb ram but depends what you want it for too I spose.
NeoRegia6 m ago

Why? saying that you don't recommend it don't give us much info... my …Why? saying that you don't recommend it don't give us much info... my experience with HP was 50/50 i was very happy with my elitebook from 2013 and mostly disappointed by my girlfriends 13.3" pavilion until it died few days out of warranty :-'(


If it was only a few days out of warranty, did you still contact them? My Xbox 360 died a few years ago the day after the warranty expired lol, but they had a 14 or 28 day cool down period so ended up getting it fixed for free still. The phone call to India was frustrating until I finally got an English person who sorted it in 5 minutes! Was buzzing with that.
To all these questioners, I would say that Fujitsu are far superior to HP.
Sim_Mills50 m ago

14", its always that way huh, you can get SSD, I5 8TH GEN 1080p but never …14", its always that way huh, you can get SSD, I5 8TH GEN 1080p but never all of those together with 15.6" under £400. It's always either 14" or not 1080p for that price. More on topic however I think that laptop is well overpriced, refurbs or deals will sell these for £300-400.


Care to provide a link for one?
(No offense but a lot of people criticise yet fail to offer any better. Proof is key.)
threedowg53 m ago

If it was only a few days out of warranty, did you still contact them? My …If it was only a few days out of warranty, did you still contact them? My Xbox 360 died a few years ago the day after the warranty expired lol, but they had a 14 or 28 day cool down period so ended up getting it fixed for free still. The phone call to India was frustrating until I finally got an English person who sorted it in 5 minutes! Was buzzing with that.



No this dont work with either HP or DELL, end of warranty is The end. i have try many times with no success
Dell was a bit better as they said that i can buy extended warranty even after shop warrenty runs out and have it fixed by their tech's in few days...
looks ok for the money, decent spec. I like a premium laptop but not everyone wants to spend that much. You could do a lot worse for £500 (and i'm not a pc world fan)
I bought this laptop a year ago with half the RAM and SSD for 329,- (out of the top of my head) and prayed it would run OpenSuSE without hassle which it does. I am impressed with it and it has been the first none Fujitsu laptop i bought in a long time.
My mate got a similar spec with 7th gen i5 for £399..

currys.co.uk/gbu…tml
jmn160919907 m ago

My mate got a similar spec with 7th gen i5 for …My mate got a similar spec with 7th gen i5 for £399..https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-ck0517sa-14-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10184905-pdt.html


Yeah, tempting, but this is a newer design, slimmer bezels, double the RAM and a newer processor. Worth the extra ton? Maybe, maybe not.
jmn1609199020 m ago

My mate got a similar spec with 7th gen i5 for …My mate got a similar spec with 7th gen i5 for £399..https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-ck0517sa-14-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10184905-pdt.html


TN display, this is IPS. Half the memory and the newer i5 8250 (4 cores, 8 threads) whomps the old i5 7200 (2 cores, 4 threads) hard. Not really comparable.

However I'm not certain why this is hot. For the value of this machine, this is not a particularly special price and about what you would have expected to pay 12 months ago. When these chips launched way back when this is what they cost. The 4GB RAM variant also lacking the SSD were £400 in January 2018 from Currys et al, because I picked one up and then upgraded it myself. This was mainly because these models come with single channel memory, which is dumb and restricts performance.

Today for this money I would probably look for a Ryzen 2500U, just because the integrated graphics are so much better.
I used to work for the NHS who had nothing but HP laptops. They worked year in year out without any problems despite many different usres.
jmn1609199033 m ago

My mate got a similar spec with 7th gen i5 for …My mate got a similar spec with 7th gen i5 for £399..https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-ck0517sa-14-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10184905-pdt.html


7th gen i5 vs 8 gen..... that’s where the pennies go
On Intel (and these CPUs) single or dual channel memory is a few percent difference in general use. Not a biggie.

And like most companies HP makes cheap, mid-range and premium computers. Quality varies based on that and also the individual designs. So, basically sweeping statements like HP, Dell or Lenovo are naff are very misleading (they all have poor, average, good and excellent models).
adam.mt4 m ago

On Intel (and these CPUs) single or dual channel memory is a few percent …On Intel (and these CPUs) single or dual channel memory is a few percent difference in general use. Not a biggie.And like most companies HP makes cheap, mid-range and premium computers. Quality varies based on that and also the individual designs. So, basically sweeping statements like HP, Dell or Lenovo are naff are very misleading (they all have poor, average, good and excellent models).


I agree, for me an i5 to an i7 will be unnoticeable...... but I still go for the i7 you just do!!!!
Also agree that dismissing a whole brand is silly, most make budget and premium ranges.
vulcanproject38 m ago

TN display, this is IPS. Half the memory and the newer i5 8250 (4 cores, 8 …TN display, this is IPS. Half the memory and the newer i5 8250 (4 cores, 8 threads) whomps the old i5 7200 (2 cores, 4 threads) hard. Not really comparable.However I'm not certain why this is hot. For the value of this machine, this is not a particularly special price and about what you would have expected to pay 12 months ago. When these chips launched way back when this is what they cost. The 4GB RAM variant also lacking the SSD were £400 in January 2018 from Currys et al, because I picked one up and then upgraded it myself. This was mainly because these models come with single channel memory, which is dumb and restricts performance.Today for this money I would probably look for a Ryzen 2500U, just because the integrated graphics are so much better.



audievo26 m ago

7th gen i5 vs 8 gen..... that’s where the pennies go



paul2952 m ago

Yeah, tempting, but this is a newer design, slimmer bezels, double the RAM …Yeah, tempting, but this is a newer design, slimmer bezels, double the RAM and a newer processor. Worth the extra ton? Maybe, maybe not.



I didn't actually look in great detail as I was busy but yes there's more RAM on this. And I prefer thin bezels so fair enough.

Was just mentioning
Milki_bar_Kid1 h, 22 m ago

I used to work for the NHS who had nothing but HP laptops. They worked …I used to work for the NHS who had nothing but HP laptops. They worked year in year out without any problems despite many different usres.


They most likely had business class laptops which are a whole different beast compared to crap consumer hardware thats made to look good but not last.
adam.mt1 h, 33 m ago

On Intel (and these CPUs) single or dual channel memory is a few percent …On Intel (and these CPUs) single or dual channel memory is a few percent difference in general use. Not a biggie.


'In general use'. I assume you define this as everyday tasks correct like browsing?

Well then you're wrong. When you are using a laptop such as this with integrated graphics, you really, really want dual channel memory. The memory bandwidth of the system is extremely critical for the performance of the integrated graphics because it shares said memory and bandwidth with the CPU.

Dual channel instead of single channel can virtually double the performance of this IGP in some applications (Intel HD 620). At the minimum it makes everything vastly smoother, accelerating graphics heavy websites considerably better, improves the general windows experiences with menu effects and such rather a lot. It's very noticeable.

You can take my word for it, since I have had several of these machines pass through my hands and use on regularly, upgrading them myself.
Any evidence? First link I googled suggests otherwise - ie. general performance nothing, games from kinda rubbish to not quite as rubbish...(serious gamers def want dedicated GPUs).
mattgadient.com/2018/08/18/faster-gaming-on-intel-uhd-620-kaby-lake-r-by-upgrading-ram/

And older but pretty valid:
gamersnexus.net/gui…e-3

Are you sure you've actually been testing like for like, ie. 8GB single channel vs 8GB dual channel on the same machine, same config?
Edited by: "adam.mt" 12th Jan
jmn160919903 h, 10 m ago

I didn't actually look in great detail as I was busy but yes there's more …I didn't actually look in great detail as I was busy but yes there's more RAM on this. And I prefer thin bezels so fair enough.Was just mentioning


And appreciated! I've spent that long looking, I've forgotten what I was buying one for!
jmn160919903 h, 10 m ago

I didn't actually look in great detail as I was busy but yes there's more …I didn't actually look in great detail as I was busy but yes there's more RAM on this. And I prefer thin bezels so fair enough.Was just mentioning

adam.mt2 h, 7 m ago

Any evidence? First link I googled suggests otherwise - ie. general …Any evidence? First link I googled suggests otherwise - ie. general performance nothing, games from kinda rubbish to not quite as rubbish...(serious gamers def want dedicated GPUs).mattgadient.com/2018/08/18/faster-gaming-on-intel-uhd-620-kaby-lake-r-by-upgrading-ram/And older but pretty valid:https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel/Page-3Are you sure you've actually been testing like for like, ie. 8GB single channel vs 8GB dual channel on the same machine, same config?



Your own first link shows IGP performance increases by a significant amount with a pair of 16GB sticks in dual channel as my post stated. Minimum 10 percent, maximum 82 percent. Average looks to be at a good 30 percent! Not bad for doubling up the bandwidth. I actually dabble with older games on one of these machine, Half Life 2 Episodes for example are playable (40FPS+) at native res with dual channel, but not with single channel.

Of course this is gaming, but it applies to anywhere the IGP has some stress on it. That's a lot more situations than people realise. Simple perceptions of the machine so day to day graphical transitions in Windows 10, web browsing, or watching videos in browsers, or H.265 video acceleration. Anything like transcoding video using quick sync. These are big parts of 'general use' for me. It's noticeably faster and smoother all round just to the naked eye.

The other tests there aren't seemingly very practical. An awful lot of synthetic benches and little real world. Not even a Photoshop test! Even so the 16 + 16 config shows nice gains over the lone 16GB stick in some of the tests, 10 percent.

Really if you want to know what the gains are for something you might use, then try Handbrake or some such program. I use that a fair bit and dual channel memory certainly sees worthwhile and impressive gains. The test undersells it on your second link, because 9 seconds gain over a 3 minute encode in not representative of a real HD movie transcode which won't take 3 minutes. Probably more like 90. In that instance dual channel would be at least 4-5 minutes faster. Double that again if you are going to H.265, as I do.

Single channel is adequate, dual channel is better. I would much rather 2 x 4GB sticks than 1 x 8GB sticks in these machines.
VulcanProject: Seems you failed to notice that there isn't actually a valid single vs dual channel test in that first link!!

Remember we are talking 8GB here, ie. 2 x 4GB vs 1 x 8GB.

If an i8250U, 8GB, SSD struggles with "graphic transitions in Windows 10, web browsing, watching videos in browsers or H.265 playback" then there's a major problem as far as I'm concerned. Single or dual channel doesn't matter.

Guess we're going to disagree, that's fine.

UPDATE
Some more tests:
techguided.com/single-channel-vs-dual-channel-vs-quad-channel/

gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel/Page-3

hardwaresecrets.com/doe…/7/
Edited by: "adam.mt" 13th Jan
I've just bought this for the wife.
Intending to get an extra 4gb RAM, £32 from Crucial Crucial 4gb ram
I think its a couple of quid cheaper with Amazon
In addition, extedning to a 2 year HP warranty is £63, 3 years is £102
Go for it you won’t be disappointed. I went to this from a 6 year old toshiba laptop that was noisy and weighed a ton. Very pleased with it, fast too
Does anyone know if the USB C has display port? I hate how difficult it is to find this out.
itsjustme1 h, 30 m ago

Does anyone know if the USB C has display port? I hate how difficult it …Does anyone know if the USB C has display port? I hate how difficult it is to find this out.


See HP spec here

says usb c is data only, so no
doobreedob2 m ago

See HP spec heresays usb c is data only, so no


Thank you, I did Google the modle number but the HP page didn't seem to come up. I thought as much though. I don't know why companies don't list full product specs instead of making you go and hunt elsewhere.
which aspect of "8 GB DDR4 (2400 MHz)" indicates single channel?
Meathotukdeals1 h, 9 m ago

which aspect of "8 GB DDR4 (2400 MHz)" indicates single channel?


It doesn't.
CENS0RED12th Jan

To all these questioners, I would say that Fujitsu are far superior to HP.


And I’d say Lenovo’s Thinkpad range are better than both. You buy cheap, you get cheap.
adam.mt22 m ago

It doesn't.


I'm looking for a 4k screen and a laptop, coming in with very limited knowledge, and am finding essential info completely missing, apparently now with this too.
Does anyone know what ram would match the existing stick in there for efficient dual channel 16gb? It's DDR4-2400 SDRAM.

Or is it better to remove the existing ram and replace with a 16gb kit?
Meathotukdeals3 h, 37 m ago

I'm looking for a 4k screen and a laptop, coming in with very limited …I'm looking for a 4k screen and a laptop, coming in with very limited knowledge, and am finding essential info completely missing, apparently now with this too.


That's because it's not essential for most buyers. Those it matters to will dig through the web to find out, others don't care.
Edited by: "adam.mt" 13th Jan
l2wis3 h, 33 m ago

Does anyone know what ram would match the existing stick in there for …Does anyone know what ram would match the existing stick in there for efficient dual channel 16gb? It's DDR4-2400 SDRAM.Or is it better to remove the existing ram and replace with a 16gb kit?


Ideally matched pair but you'd have to be able to sell the existing ram on at a good deal. Else try and match the speed (DDR4-2400), timings (CL) and rank. Price is critical because the real world differences are small.
adam.mt34 m ago

That's because it's not essential for most buyers. Those it matters to …That's because it's not essential for most buyers. Those it matters to will dig through the web to find out, others don't care.


well when you are a pc/laptop noob you make decisions based off other people's 'Advice' and Vulcan project seemed to know what they were talking about and said it mattered. The alternative is to spend months reading up as I did when I built my own PC years ago and I could well do without sinking so much time into laptops.
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