HP Pavilion x360 14-ba104na, Touch screen, Intel® Core™ i5-8250U, 8Gb RAM, 256Gb SSD, 14 inch, FHD IPS Laptop (possibly £531) £589.99 @ Very
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HP Pavilion x360 14-ba104na, Touch screen, Intel® Core™ i5-8250U, 8Gb RAM, 256Gb SSD, 14 inch, FHD IPS Laptop (possibly £531) £589.99 @ Very

£589.99£699.9916%Very Deals
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Posted 14th Mar
*** Possibly £531 with additional 10% off using MJWT7 (first credit order). Cheapest I can find ***
  • Intel® Core™ i5-8250U (1.6 GHz base frequency, up to 3.4 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)
  • Intel® UHD Graphics 620
  • Touch Screen
  • 256 GB M.2 SSD
  • 8 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (1 x 8 GB)
  • 35.6 cm (14") diagonal FHD IPS WLED-backlit multitouch-enabled edge-to-edge glass (1920 x 1080)
  • B&O PLAY
  • HP Audio Boost; Dual speakers
  • 1 multi-format SD media card reader
  • 1 HDMI
  • 1 USB 3.1 Type-C™ Gen 1 (Data Transfer up to 5 Gb/s); 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 (Data transfer only)
  • Graphics: Integrated Intel UHD Graphics 620
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Must be careful with this model. Had 2 which gave "3f0" errors. Which normally means the HDD failed. But despite numerous hard drive replacements, the issuse always returned, even with HDD ribbon cables replaced. Definitely HP system board issue. You can google it, many instances.

Avoid like the plague.
J4GG45 m ago

Must be careful with this model. Had 2 which gave "3f0" errors. Which …Must be careful with this model. Had 2 which gave "3f0" errors. Which normally means the HDD failed. But despite numerous hard drive replacements, the issuse always returned, even with HDD ribbon cables replaced. Definitely HP system board issue. You can google it, many instances.Avoid like the plague.


Thanks for the heads-up. I was checking the reviews and could not find anything specific for this model. Will check again. Is it particularly for this SSD model?
Voyager3 m ago

Thanks for the heads-up. I was checking the reviews and could not find …Thanks for the heads-up. I was checking the reviews and could not find anything specific for this model. Will check again. Is it particularly for this SSD model?


I had 2 of the model up from this one, both i didn't risk putting SSD in just in case it killed it. Would be expensive. Already lost a couple 1TB regular hard drives though. Good laptop otherwise.
£749.95 in John Lewis with 2 years guarantee. Will they price match Very?
Voyager43 m ago

£749.95 in John Lewis with 2 years guarantee. Will they price match Very?


Ask them. Answer will be yes or no.
Good price for an FHD IPS Touch Screen & 8th Gen I5 + 8GB + 256 SSD, I'd say.
Let us know their response.
Abhor Touch Screens myself.
My phone's smeary enough.
Edited by: "Publix" 14th Mar
I have one of these exact model and no major issues to report. Touchscreen is very responsive & image quality pretty good. Thermals are not amazing, the fan is always on and sometimes pretty loud, although no thermal throttling to report and performance is very good. The NVME SSD isn't the fastest, 900/600MB read write iirc.
I would say the hinges 'feel' a little flimsy with a little bit of play but other than that build quality is very good.
Hp or Acer..
Publix26 m ago

Ask them. Answer will be yes or no.Good price for an FHD IPS Touch Screen …Ask them. Answer will be yes or no.Good price for an FHD IPS Touch Screen & 8th Gen I5 + 8GB + 256 SSD, I'd say.Let us know their response.Abhor Touch Screens myself. My phone's smeary enough.


Unable to pricematch with JL
"Sorry - we can't match this retailer as it's an online-only business."
Has anyone tried to use the 10% off code because it says exclusions apply which includes sale item's??
Voyager2 h, 16 m ago

Unable to pricematch with JL"Sorry - we can't match this retailer as it's …Unable to pricematch with JL"Sorry - we can't match this retailer as it's an online-only business."



kk251 h, 41 m ago

Has anyone tried to use the 10% off code because it says exclusions apply …Has anyone tried to use the 10% off code because it says exclusions apply which includes sale item's??


Same price on Amazon @ 22:26 14/03/2019. Just F.Y.I.
i_have_crabs5 h, 1 m ago

Thermals are not amazing, the fan is always on and sometimes pretty loud, …Thermals are not amazing, the fan is always on and sometimes pretty loud, although no thermal throttling to report and performance is very good.


These are great chips to undervolt if you fancy mild tweaking. In most cases they run cooler, perform better and extend battery life. Win win win.

You can usually knock about 100mV off the 8250U core voltage without issues.
vulcanproject16 h, 32 m ago

These are great chips to undervolt if you fancy mild tweaking. In most …These are great chips to undervolt if you fancy mild tweaking. In most cases they run cooler, perform better and extend battery life. Win win win.You can usually knock about 100mV off the 8250U core voltage without issues.


That's brilliant thanks I'll look into this. Presumably laptop BIOS's are still pretty locked down, so is it a case of using software to undervolt or some other way ?
i_have_crabs14 m ago

That's brilliant thanks I'll look into this. Presumably laptop BIOS's are …That's brilliant thanks I'll look into this. Presumably laptop BIOS's are still pretty locked down, so is it a case of using software to undervolt or some other way ?



Yeah, Intel XTU, throttlestop etc software. You can set a Vcore offset in windows and it'll set on launch. Each chip is different, you keep lowering offset until you hit instability on a benchmark. -100mV on the CPU and iGPU is a realistic goal, maybe a tad more is possible. Essentially this lowers the voltage by about 10 percent so you see about 10 percent gains.

I have experimented with a few models and the 8250U is sweeeeeeet. Download CPUZ, restart and let the system idle a minute, then run the benchmark for a fast reference.

Tell me what you get. I believe stock the 8250U was around 1800 multi core, dropping rapidly when throttling kicks in. When I lowered the vcore and the iGPU voltage of my tested chips I ended up scoring 2000. It did indeed translate to 10 percent more performance, less heat, and more battery life.

Same goes for passmark. I think stock was like 7600 or so, with the offset it was consistently 8300+. That pushes 8250U performance up to what the i7 8550U gets!

Throttling also took far longer to bring the score down, and it always maintained a higher minimum score. The benefits are excellent.
Edited by: "vulcanproject" 15th Mar
vulcanproject5 m ago

Yeah, Intel XTU, throttlestop etc software. You can set a Vcore offset in …Yeah, Intel XTU, throttlestop etc software. You can set a Vcore offset in windows and it'll set on launch. Each chip is different, you keep lowering offset until you hit instability on a benchmark. -100mV on the CPU and iGPU is a realistic goal, maybe a tad more is possible. Essentially this lowers the voltage by about 10 percent so you see about 10 percent gains.I have experimented with a few models and the 8250U is sweeeeeeet. Download CPUZ, restart and let the system idle a minute, then run the benchmark for a fast reference.Tell me what you get. I believe stock the 8250U was around 1800 multi core, dropping rapidly when throttling kicks in. When I lowered the vcore and the iGPU voltage of my tested chips I ended up scoring 2000. It did indeed translate to 10 percent more performance, less heat, and more battery life.Same goes for passmark. I think stock was like 7600 or so, with the offset it was consistently 8300+. That pushes 8250U performance up to what the i7 8550U gets!Throttling also took far longer to bring the score down, and it always maintained a higher minimum score. The benefits are excellent.


Brilliant thanks that's excellent info! I'll have a mess around with it over the weekend and see what I get.
Seems weird that they ship with so much headroom for lowering voltage since battery life and heat are such big considerations for laptops
i_have_crabs5 m ago

Brilliant thanks that's excellent info! I'll have a mess around with it …Brilliant thanks that's excellent info! I'll have a mess around with it over the weekend and see what I get.Seems weird that they ship with so much headroom for lowering voltage since battery life and heat are such big considerations for laptops


It's a case of each individual chip is slightly different just like overclocking, so in rare cases perhaps ones will not tolerate a lower voltage. They only just hit their spec, good enough. The majority however have a fair bit of headroom.

The manufacturers will not spend time tweaking each individual CPU's voltage to squeeze out another 10 percent better performance. Not when they bang out 10,000 laptops a day or whatever.

They will however just sell you a model with a chip that met the higher spec instead, for more money.
i_have_crabs43 m ago

Brilliant thanks that's excellent info! I'll have a mess around with it …Brilliant thanks that's excellent info! I'll have a mess around with it over the weekend and see what I get.Seems weird that they ship with so much headroom for lowering voltage since battery life and heat are such big considerations for laptops


Let me know how you get on. This was my CPU passmark score. Remember, I did nothing but lower the voltage of the CPU, Cache and iGPU. That's it.

I think your model might be more cooling constrained than the laptops I have experimented with but you should see boosts.

Typical 8250U passmark: cpubenchmark.net/cpu…042
i7 8550U passmark: cpubenchmark.net/cpu…064

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Edited by: "vulcanproject" 15th Mar
Thanks. Ordered 2 from Amazon. One for me and one for the other half. Our previous laptops are quite old so they could do with renewing.
Can anyone recommend a pen that works with this?
SlimaB16th Mar

Thanks. Ordered 2 from Amazon. One for me and one for the other half. Our …Thanks. Ordered 2 from Amazon. One for me and one for the other half. Our previous laptops are quite old so they could do with renewing.


Any feedback after initial usage?
Yes. I'm loving mine and so is the other half.

Much better than my previous laptop. Great screen and keyboard is nice to type on.

Love the face recognition to get in to Windows.
SlimaB18 m ago

Yes. I'm loving mine and so is the other half.Much better than my previous …Yes. I'm loving mine and so is the other half.Much better than my previous laptop. Great screen and keyboard is nice to type on.Love the face recognition to get in to Windows.


Many thanks for your inputs! Much appreciated!!
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