HP Probook 450 G3 (newest business laptop), i3-6100U (score higher than i5-5200U), 4GB RAM, 128GB M.2 SSD, Win7 Pro, £426.24 from HP (£50 cashback + £150 trade-up cashback + 6.06%TCB available, potentially £200.41)
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HP Probook 450 G3 (newest business laptop), i3-6100U (score higher than i5-5200U), 4GB RAM, 128GB M.2 SSD, Win7 Pro, £426.24 from HP (£50 cashback + £150 trade-up cashback + 6.06%TCB available, potentially £200.41)

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Found 17th Mar 2016
Another HP business laptop. Good quality.

Lastest gen i3-6100U, quite powerful for an i3 U version. Score higher than i5-5200u is to my surprise.

Integrated HD Graphics 520 GPU is quite good for an integrated. I have read somewhere it is better than AMD Radeon R6. I could be wrong.

4GB RAM is small, but cheap and easy to upgrade.

The screen is non-FHD.

128GB M.2 SATA SSD is using the M.2 slot.

It has been confirmed that you can put in a 2.5 inch HDD for storage.

Win 7 Pro is a plus too.

450 G3 - P5T14ET
Use code "BQ216HPAF63" to get 4% off, pay £426.24 upfront.
6.06% TCB £25.83
£50 cashback
£150 trade-up cashback.
If all sucessful, work out £200.41.
HP confirmed that using discount code does not invalidate cashbacks.

Another option of 450 G3 - P4P52ET is £25 more, comes with i5-6200u, other specs are the same as the above one. Pay £506.40 upfront. 6.06% TCB, £50 cashback, £200 trade-up cashback, work out £225. (For this one, do not use 4% off code as it will reduce the trade-up cashback)
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i3-6100U score 3519, improved a lot over previous genertions.
cpubenchmark.net/cpu…623

i5-5200U score 3514
cpubenchmark.net/cpu…440


There is a free SATA connector, you can buy a 2TB 2.5 inch HDD for around £50/60 and put in for storage. You can have both 128GB SSD and 2TB HDD at the same time.


Model number is 450 G3 - P5T14ET
Individual end users can claim both cashbacks on one laptop. It has always been the case in the past. HP never ask a question.

£50 cashback
hpcashback.com/gb/…ing

£150 tradeup cashback
tradeuptohp.com/gb/…ing



A lot people seem have questions about cashback. I give a little summary below hope to clear things up. They are from last time I read it. I have not re-read, please double check and let me know if anything changed.

£50 cashback.
Straight cash, not string attached. Apply 30 days from invoice date.
HP need to know two things, how much you paid for, and confirmation of model no: 450 G3 - P5T14ET.
They need to a scan of your invoice when you apply. If 450 G3 - P5T14ET is not on invoice, you will need to upload a photo of the sticker on the box showing 450 G3 - P5T14ET as well.



£150 trade-up cashback
Apply straight away after you got your invoice.
There is no brand restriction. You can give HP your old device in whatever brands.
If you are claiming as individual end user, answer as follows:
Are you a UK VAT registered business? answer No.
Customer Type, answer "Small Business (1-10 staff)".
The basic logic is you are a sole trade under your own name with only one employee yourself. That was what Dabs contacted HP and found out in the very first HP cashback last year.

The conditions are:

1. Trade-in device must be fully working conditions. Any part not working, HP will take money off.
2. Tablet not less than 9 inch, laptop not less than 10 inch.

3. If you trade in PC/laptop originally comes with Win XP, no age restriction.
If you trade in PC/laptop originally comes with system other than XP, no more than 6 years old.

Cheapest way, you have an old one not needed.

The next is by a xp laptop off ebay for £20-30, a lot work because you have to make sure everything is fully function (battery etc).

The easiest way if you do not have an old device, is to buy a 9 inch tablet for less than £50, you only need to make sure the tablet is fully working. 2nd hand cheap ones especially those from China, or Nook HD+ from CeX.

Edited by: "huangxq2" 20th Mar 2016
huangxq2

For cashbacks, see post 1 and 25 in the link … For cashbacks, see post 1 and 25 in the link belowhttp://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2413868?page=1#comments



need to change title
So you need a trade in
NBC didn't review the i3-6100U version, but they did review an i5-6200U version (although with the FHD screen which this doesn't have). The part number for their review was P5T01ES isn't in the cashback deal:
notebookcheck.net/HP-…tml
The chassis has two service covers but they look like they are screwed. I guess tool-less is reserved for Elitebooks.
Although not for this model, that review should give people some idea about this laptop.
cigbunt

So you need a trade in


is that a question
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Gkains

NBC didn't review the i3-6100U version, but they did review an i5-6200U … NBC didn't review the i3-6100U version, but they did review an i5-6200U version (although with the FHD screen which this doesn't have). The part number for their review was P5T01ES isn't in the cashback deal:http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-ProBook-450-G3-Notebook-Review.155716.0.htmlThe chassis has two service covers but they look like they are screwed. I guess tool-less is reserved for Elitebooks.Although not for this model, that review should give people some idea about this laptop.



Thanks for the comment.

Why is the 6th generation, i3-6100u scores so close to i5-6200u. I really do not know.

I would normally expect a bigger gap between i3 and i5 of the same generation.

Original Poster
cigbunt

So you need a trade in



Is the title and description not clear?
Original Poster
Gkains

NBC didn't review the i3-6100U version, but they did review an i5-6200U … NBC didn't review the i3-6100U version, but they did review an i5-6200U version (although with the FHD screen which this doesn't have). The part number for their review was P5T01ES isn't in the cashback deal:http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-ProBook-450-G3-Notebook-Review.155716.0.htmlThe chassis has two service covers but they look like they are screwed. I guess tool-less is reserved for Elitebooks.Although not for this model, that review should give people some idea about this laptop.



One thing will certainly change is battery life.

Although the one in the review has FHD is nice, FHD, i5, HDD do consume more power.

I expect this non-FHD 450 G3 has 7 hours battery just as 450 G2.
Edited by: "huangxq2" 17th Mar 2016
Original Poster
eslick

need to change title



MOD does not allow. Said if price changed, it is a new deal. Cannot change the old deal to reflect new price.

Otherwise, I would just amend the old one, rather than post as a new deal.
huangxq2

Why is the 6th generation, i3-6100u scores so close to i5-6200u. I really … Why is the 6th generation, i3-6100u scores so close to i5-6200u. I really do not know.I would normally expect a bigger gap between i3 and i5 of the same generation.


Well, remember that for mobile i3, i5 and i7 rarely mean much.
For desktop i3 would be 2C/4T, i5 4c and i7 4C/8T.
For mobile (if we ignore the actual i7 quad cores and the new i5 HQ's which are quad without HT), the difference is mainly turbo rates. That is, Intel's 15W 'U' CPUs mostly share the same die unless they have Iris Pro or something.
The Wikipedia (where all of the entries link back to Intel ARK):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)#Mobile_processors
lists the turbo speeds of Skylake mobile chips. Taking that plus the Broadwell entry we get the following:
CPU = Base / 1C Boost / 2C Boost
i5-5200U = 2.2 GHz / 2.7 GHz / 2.5 GHz
i3-6100U = 2.3 GHz / 2.3 GHz / 2.3 GHz
i5-6200U = 2.3 GHz / 2.8 GHz / 2.7GHz
i7-6500U = 2.5 GHz / 3.1 GHz / 3.0 GHz
So in theory, mobile 15W 'U' series i3 and i5 should only vary by their turbo. The Skylake i3's base is higher than the Broadwell i5's plus the Skylake IPC gain should mean at even with 2 core boost they should be rather close. If any of the parts experience any thermal throttling (which should affect Turbo far more than base), those Passmark scores are not surprising.
I know there was discussion about whether individuals were eligible for the trade-up offer. Reading the T&Cs its clearly not aimed at consumers. I received an email shortly after submitting my claim including "As this promotion is for businesses and organisations, please could you confirm your company name?" - I had put N/A in the company name box so maybe something more creative is required?
huangxq2

MOD does not allow. Said if price changed, it is a new deal. Cannot … MOD does not allow. Said if price changed, it is a new deal. Cannot change the old deal to reflect new price.Otherwise, I would just amend the old one, rather than post as a new deal.




You had the link in the title originally, someone fixed it for you
Original Poster
pealy

I know there was discussion about whether individuals were eligible for … I know there was discussion about whether individuals were eligible for the trade-up offer. Reading the T&Cs its clearly not aimed at consumers. I received an email shortly after submitting my claim including "As this promotion is for businesses and organisations, please could you confirm your company name?" - I had put N/A in the company name box so maybe something more creative is required?



Put your own name in as business name. You leave something as N/A, of course they will ask you for information.

Dabs confirmed with HP that individual users can claim both cashbacks, at the time, Dabs website even give instructions of how individual should answer the questions as per HP. Read the first HP cashback deals 11 months ago.
hotukdeals.com/dea…071

I had cashbacks received in Jan and Feb. Other people will be able to tell you their experience.

If you are experience difficulties or things do not go as expect, just come and ask for help.
Edited by: "huangxq2" 17th Mar 2016
Original Poster
eslick

You had the link in the title originally, someone fixed it for you



I see. I must made a mistake then.
I Was lucky enough to get one at yesterdays price, arrived today and its a cracking piece of kit, well built, really fast, surprisingly light it also seems to have a fingerprint scanner (not had chance to test yet). The only slight downside I can see (and this is against the £400ish rrp) is the screen resolution, but that seems to be the case with most laptops unless you specifically spend the money on one with a fhd screen. The screen resolution is a non issue for the post cashback price. My only regret was not buying two - this ones for the wife.

Edited by: "beard7" 17th Mar 2016
How
Much was
It yesterday
wakkaday

HowMuch wasIt yesterday


It was £350 and worked out at £175 if all the cashback comes in. Also quidco tracked at 4% so dont forget that.
huangxq2

Is the title and description not clear?


quite misleading actually
Original Poster
cigbunt

quite misleading actually



My suggestion, read the details then if it is not clear to you.

From yesterday to today, you are the first person need to ask this question.
Edited by: "huangxq2" 17th Mar 2016
Gkains

Well, remember that for mobile i3, i5 and i7 rarely mean much. For … Well, remember that for mobile i3, i5 and i7 rarely mean much. For desktop i3 would be 2C/4T, i5 4c and i7 4C/8T.For mobile (if we ignore the actual i7 quad cores and the new i5 HQ's which are quad without HT), the difference is mainly turbo rates. That is, Intel's 15W 'U' CPUs mostly share the same die unless they have Iris Pro or something.The Wikipedia (where all of the entries link back to Intel ARK):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)#Mobile_processorslists the turbo speeds of Skylake mobile chips. Taking that plus the Broadwell entry we get the following:CPU = Base / 1C Boost / 2C Boosti5-5200U = 2.2 GHz / 2.7 GHz / 2.5 GHzi3-6100U = 2.3 GHz / 2.3 GHz / 2.3 GHzi5-6200U = 2.3 GHz / 2.8 GHz / 2.7GHzi7-6500U = 2.5 GHz / 3.1 GHz / 3.0 GHzSo in theory, mobile 15W 'U' series i3 and i5 should only vary by their turbo. The Skylake i3's base is higher than the Broadwell i5's plus the Skylake IPC gain should mean at even with 2 core boost they should be rather close. If any of the parts experience any thermal throttling (which should affect Turbo far more than base), those Passmark scores are not surprising.



​Man life is too complicated as it is without having to digest all that malarky !
How do you find out the age of the laptop you want to trade?
Did this before on the 470 with an i5 and dedicated graphics. Got it for £137 after all the discounts etc.
Took a while, was a bit nerve racking wondering when things would get approved etc but it was all fine.
Sent a piece of junk xp laptop to them and got the full amount paid.
Bookmarking to look at later.

EDIT: Is there anything with a smaller screen/no number pad that would still qualify for a decent chunk of cash back? Thanks
Edited by: "Bossworld" 18th Mar 2016
huangxq2

i3-6100U score 3519, improved a lot over previous … i3-6100U score 3519, improved a lot over previous genertions.http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-6100U+%40+2.30GHz&id=2623i5-5200U score 3514http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-5200U+%40+2.20GHz&id=2440There is a free SATA connector, you can buy a 2TB 2.5 inch HDD for around £50 and put in for storage. You can have both 128GB SSD and 2TB HDD at the same time.Model number is 450 G3 - P5T14ETIndividual end users can claim both cashbacks on one laptop. It has always been the case in the past. HP never ask a question.£50 cashbackhttps://hpcashback.com/gb/en/pages/cashback/qualifying£150 tradeup cashbackhttps://tradeuptohp.com/gb/en/pages/qualifyingA lot people seem have questions about cashback. I give a little summary below hope to clear things up. They are from last time I read it. I have not re-read, please double check and let me know if anything changed.£50 cashback.Straight cash, not string attached. Apply 30 days from invoice date.HP need to know two things, how much you paid for, and confirmation of model no: 450 G3 - P5T14ET.They need to a scan of your invoice when you apply. If 450 G3 - P5T14ET is not on invoice, you will need to upload a photo of the sticker on the box showing 450 G3 - P5T14ET as well.£150 trade-up cashbackApply straight away after you got your invoice.There is no brand restriction. You can give HP your old device in whatever brands.If you are claiming as individual end user, answer as follows:Are you a UK VAT registered business? answer No.Customer Type, answer "Small Business (1-10 staff)".The basic logic is you are a sole trade under your own name with only one employee yourself. That was what Dabs contacted HP and found out in the very first HP cashback last year.The conditions are:1. Trade-in device must be fully working conditions. Any part not working, HP will take money off.2. Tablet not less than 9 inch, laptop not less than 10 inch.3. If you trade in PC/laptop originally comes with Win XP, no age restriction.If you trade in PC/laptop originally comes with system other than XP, no more than 6 years old.Cheapest way, you have an old one not needed.The next is by a xp laptop off ebay for £20-30, a lot work because you have to make sure everything is fully function (battery etc).The easiest way if you do not have an old device, is to buy a 9 inch tablet for less than £50, you only need to make sure the tablet is fully working. 2nd hand cheap ones especially those from China, or Nook HD+ from CeX.


Most people would not notice performance between this i3 6100u and i5 5200u but the i5 has turbo mode to 2.7 GHz for all four threads which is not stated in most benchmarks which do not report burst modes (turbo). Because of this , it has dual memory channels to support this rather than one in the i3, so single thread performance will be significantly faster because of bursting with an extra memory channel.
Edited by: "splender" 18th Mar 2016
blakester

How do you find out the age of the laptop you want to trade?



Yeah it nhabe a laptop that must be around 6 years but I don't know if it qualifies
splender

Most people would not notice performance between this i3 6100u and i5 … Most people would not notice performance between this i3 6100u and i5 5200u but the i5 has turbo mode to 2.7 GHz for all four threads which is not stated in most benchmarks which do not report burst modes (turbo). Because of this , it has dual memory channels to support this rather than one in the i3, so single thread performance will be significantly faster because of bursting with an extra memory channel.



​i3 has a dual channel memory controller. In fact even Skylake Celeron has that:
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/92213#@product/specifications
As for turbo, all benchmarks well avail of that since it is automatic and can generally only be disabled in the BIOS of desktop motherboards (and why would anyone disable it?).
The reason this i3 is so close to the low i5s probably has more to do that on these 15W 'U' parts there isn't much boosting in the first place as they are all mostly thermally limited and probably can't sustain their turbo for any length of time.
But yes, while the i5 or i7 is boosting in turbo mode, it should feel more responsive.
Original Poster
blakester

How do you find out the age of the laptop you want to trade?



I can only think that they use the date in BIOS as approximation.
Would a chromebook qualify as a laptop in this promotion?
Original Poster
splender

Most people would not notice performance between this i3 6100u and i5 … Most people would not notice performance between this i3 6100u and i5 5200u but the i5 has turbo mode to 2.7 GHz for all four threads which is not stated in most benchmarks which do not report burst modes (turbo). Because of this , it has dual memory channels to support this rather than one in the i3, so single thread performance will be significantly faster because of bursting with an extra memory channel.



Gkains

i3 has a dual channel memory controller. In fact even Skylake Celeron has … i3 has a dual channel memory controller. In fact even Skylake Celeron has that:http://ark.intel.com/m/products/92213#@product/specificationsAs for turbo, all benchmarks well avail of that since it is automatic and can generally only be disabled in the BIOS of desktop motherboards (and why would anyone disable it?).The reason this i3 is so close to the low i5s probably has more to do that on these 15W 'U' parts there isn't much boosting in the first place as they are all mostly thermally limited and probably can't sustain their turbo for any length of time.But yes, while the i5 or i7 is boosting in turbo mode, it should feel more responsive.



Guys, thank you for your input. It was not my attention to turn the thread to a CPU comparison.

I was only saying that this new i3-6100u is quite powerful as an i3, it got more powers than previous generations, do not overlook it. And its benchmarked very good, on par with the vastly used i5-5200u.
Edited by: "huangxq2" 18th Mar 2016
Original Poster
beard7

I Was lucky enough to get one at yesterdays price, arrived today and its … I Was lucky enough to get one at yesterdays price, arrived today and its a cracking piece of kit, well built, really fast, surprisingly light it also seems to have a fingerprint scanner (not had chance to test yet). The only slight downside I can see (and this is against the £400ish rrp) is the screen resolution, but that seems to be the case with most laptops unless you specifically spend the money on one with a fhd screen. The screen resolution is a non issue for the post cashback price. My only regret was not buying two - this ones for the wife.



Glad to see you like it.

The quality difference between a good business laptop and budget consumer laptop is not something just in people's mind. It is real life, anyone can touch and feel. People should be able to tell the difference from the first minute they touch the laptop. It does not require you to open the laptop to vouch the better components they use inside.

I had HP 250 and 650 side by side. 250 is so much worse. I can feel it straight away. That is why when people want to spend £300 on HP 250 or 350, I always suggest spend the same money on a Probook 450/455.

(Probook 650 has docking ability make it thicker, heavier and more expensive, unless you need docking ability, otherwise do not go with it.)

I would always say this, if you can find business laptop at good price, always choose business laptops over budget consumer laptops. At today's price, there are normally some business laptops trading in the price range of budget consumer laptops.
Edited by: "huangxq2" 18th Mar 2016
huangxq2

Is the title and description not clear?



Don't know how you have the patience to go through all these questions again
Original Poster
razor99999

Would a chromebook qualify as a laptop in this promotion?



Yes, if it is less than 6 years old and is bigger than 10 inch.

The trade-up devise does not has restricition on brand or system.
Bossworld

EDIT: Is there anything with a smaller screen/no number pad that would … EDIT: Is there anything with a smaller screen/no number pad that would still qualify for a decent chunk of cash back? Thanks


According to the HP Tradeup site:
tradeuptohp.com/gb/…ing
The HP EliteBook 725 still qualifies. Excellent built quality but the single module AMD processor is slow.
Other options are the other probooks like the 430 (AFAIK 13"), possible some of the others.
A few minutes spent with the list and google should get you an idea.
blakester

How do you find out the age of the laptop you want to trade?



​Carbon dating
Price has increased again to 444 GBP ...
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£444 now
Crickey .. these deals don't last long. I'm looking for a new business laptop but not until the new tax year. I hope the cashback offers are still about in April.
what is the return policy for the laptop?

Can I open the box and decide to return it if I dont like ?
Original Poster
jsmith1

what is the return policy for the laptop?Can I open the box and decide to … what is the return policy for the laptop?Can I open the box and decide to return it if I dont like ?



Normal 14 days DSR apply.

But I am not sure of how far you could go using the laptop, and still be able to return laptop by simply changing of mind.

Anyone else has more insights in this matter?
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