HP Proliant Gen 8 microserver at Ebuyer for £124.99 (£179.99 before cashback)
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HP Proliant Gen 8 microserver at Ebuyer for £124.99 (£179.99 before cashback)

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Found 14th Sep 2016Made hot 14th Sep 2016
Great little server for the price, can be easily converted to a NAS box. Processor a bit underpowered but it can be upgraded.

Has dual NIC's and a ILO card.

Note £124.99 is the cashback price, it's £179.99 before cashback.

The returns procedure is simple enough, I got my refund when they ran this promotion the first time round.

Don't forget 1.57% Topcashback
- dilse

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You need to add this is a cash back price

Original Poster

Sambat

You need to add this is a cash back price


Good point, amended the post. thanks.

Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always on
Do many people really forget to do the cashback ?

Good machines but have been cheaper.

Please note only 1 pci-e slot on these so usefulness as a PVR server for Kodi etc is reduced.

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OrribleHarry

Good machines but have been cheaper. Please note only 1 pci-e slot on … Good machines but have been cheaper. Please note only 1 pci-e slot on these so usefulness as a PVR server for Kodi etc is reduced.


Agreed, the Celeron processor is a bit underpowered for this kind of thing, so for any serious graphics related computing it's not optimal. personally I use it to host my virtual machines, upgraded the processor and it runs like a champ. Kodi runs on a sideloaded firestick and uses this server as it's media source.

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OrribleHarry

Good machines but have been cheaper. Please note only 1 pci-e slot on … Good machines but have been cheaper. Please note only 1 pci-e slot on these so usefulness as a PVR server for Kodi etc is reduced.


Agreed, the Celeron processor is a bit underpowered for this kind of thing, so for any serious graphics related computing it's not optimal. personally I use it to host my virtual machines, upgraded the processor and it runs like a champ. Kodi runs on a sideloaded firestick and uses this server as it's media source.

mikerr

Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always … Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always onDo many people really forget to do the cashback ?


I think so, it's not a complicated thing to do either, just remember to make a copy of all receipts if they ever ask for a hard copy, ( think I just scanned mine in and emailed it off). Either way i'd rather have the £55 in my pocket than in theirs.

mikerr

Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always … Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always onDo many people really forget to do the cashback ?



Yeh, I bet.

opia-sp.com/en/…ate

the difference is that with Cashback and Mail in Rebate promotions, it … the difference is that with Cashback and Mail in Rebate promotions, it will cost you a fraction of a traditional price discount and will typically result in a far greater uplift.

Ooh nice! I was just eyeing up a Dell T20 but this'd be smaller and lower power. Dual gigE is also pretty neat even if it is broadcom underneath.

If only these could take 32GB of RAM I'd be upgrading my old kit right away...

mikerr

Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always … Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always onDo many people really forget to do the cashback ?



Cashback offers aren't just about catching people who forget or fail to qualify. They collect user data and help them play games with revenue in certain quarters.

SteveCoops

If only these could take 32GB of RAM I'd be upgrading my old kit right … If only these could take 32GB of RAM I'd be upgrading my old kit right away...



Check out homeservershow.com I'm pretty sure these are known to support 32gb unofficially.

OrribleHarry

Check out homeservershow.com I'm pretty sure these are known to support … Check out homeservershow.com I'm pretty sure these are known to support 32gb unofficially.



​really? didn't realise that although I bet 2x16gb sticks are expensive!

mikerr

Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems … Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always onDo many people really forget to do the cashback ?

the difference is that with Cashback and Mail in Rebate promotions, it … the difference is that with Cashback and Mail in Rebate promotions, it will cost you a fraction of a traditional price discount and will typically result in a far greater uplift.



Reading through the management speak nonsense, I'm not sure that's really what they're saying, more that it doesn't impact on your normal price like a price reduction would. But then again, with such guff, it's very hard to tell!

mkp666

cheaper here... plus 2.1% … cheaper here... plus 2.1% tcbhttps://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1039108/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen8-intel-celeron-g1610t-dual-core-.30ghz-mb-4-x-non-hotplug-correct me if it's not the same thing.



​It is more expensive there (price was 130.94 after cash back when including VAT, but not including topcashback).

mikerr

Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always … Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always onDo many people really forget to do the cashback ?



simple maths, sell at £125 you only get £125 sell at £180 and give cash back you now have a chance of getting £180 if only 25% of people don't claim its all profit.

Bowler_man

simple maths, sell at £125 you only get £125 sell at £180 and give cash ba … simple maths, sell at £125 you only get £125 sell at £180 and give cash back you now have a chance of getting £180 if only 25% of people don't claim its all profit.



​Again, that's not the point. I once had a conversation with my educated brother about this who reamed off tonnes of reasons, some already listed here.

From a business perspective I would say the collection of personal data of actual buyers being the best to allow future analysis and promotion targeting.
Edited by: "alexjameshaines" 15th Sep 2016

KHANTHEFIRST

Agreed, the Celeron processor is a bit underpowered for this kind of … Agreed, the Celeron processor is a bit underpowered for this kind of thing, so for any serious graphics related computing it's not optimal. personally I use it to host my virtual machines, upgraded the processor and it runs like a champ. Kodi runs on a sideloaded firestick and uses this server as it's media source.



What processor did you upgrade to?

freestyle

[quote=KHANTHEFIRST] Agreed, the Celeron processor is a bit underpowered … [quote=KHANTHEFIRST] Agreed, the Celeron processor is a bit underpowered for this kind of thing, so for any serious graphics related computing it's not optimal. personally I use it to host my virtual machines, upgraded the processor and it runs like a champ. Kodi runs on a sideloaded firestick and uses this server as it's media source.


What processor did you upgrade to?[/quoe]
I'd like to know about this too please. I run Plex and the stock processor struggles at times transcoding 1080p.

Should point out it only comes with iLO lite, which only works either for configuration or a couple of minutes into booting an OS.

You can get the full iLO on Amazon for around £30.

Also, only comes with 1 years firmware updates/support unless you have a support agreement.

Otherwise it's a nice little box for the money (got mine running vSphere with 10GB), a bit sluggish at times but does the job.
Edited by: "tech3475" 15th Sep 2016

A few points.

It has 2 network ports (yey)
But only one pic-e (booo)
Takes an age too boot (boo)
B210i only does raid 1/0/10 (yay no raid 5 for plebs wohoooo)

Check out the ML10 v2, also has a cashback offer occasionally

abaxas

A few points.But only one pic-e (booo)



Micro-server. Miiiicroooo. Micro == small.

abaxas

A few points.Takes an age too boot (boo)



How often are you shutting down a server?


mkp666

cheaper here... plus 2.1% … cheaper here... plus 2.1% tcbhttps://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1039108/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen8-intel-celeron-g1610t-dual-core-.30ghz-mb-4-x-non-hotplug-correct me if it's not the same thing.



Post it as a deal.

I have looked my self to replace my old server NL35 with home server OS
and made decision that better now get NAS box with Intel CPU and they do job all very well

Yes you can buy cheaper microserver compare to NAS but then you need to have software as well and couple options Windows Server or Free NAS or Linux

Windows server/ home server they are not cheap + configuration not easy for home user " they are to problematic"
Free NAS yes it is Free but Im skeptical about security patches etc
Linux not my garden at all so ....

Now QNAP or Synology they about £400 with intel CPU and have everything you need just add HDD and you ready to go all integrations with dropbox , Gdrive out of the box

Anyway just my thinking

abaxas

It has 2 network ports (yey)



Is that exciting because you can you team them together to give 2Gbps?

joshtbh

Is that exciting because you can you team them together to give 2Gbps?



Loads of uses for 2 ports. Eg firewall or differnet network for your SAN.

abaxas

A few points.But only one pic-e (booo)

abaxas

A few points.Takes an age too boot (boo)



The old N**L had 2 pci-e so you could do proper raid and GPU.

Just nowt worse than waiting 4 minutes for something to post. The old N**L boxes posted in about 20 seconds.

abaxas

The old N**L had 2 pci-e so you could do proper raid and GPU.Just nowt … The old N**L had 2 pci-e so you could do proper raid and GPU.Just nowt worse than waiting 4 minutes for something to post. The old N**L boxes posted in about 20 seconds.



I still don't get how either of these things is really an issue.

Why would you want a GPU in a Microserver?
Why is a long POST time an issue on a server what is going to be running 24/7?
Edited by: "ollie87" 15th Sep 2016

mikerr

Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always … Don't know why they don't just sell these at £125 - cashback seems always onDo many people really forget to do the cashback ?




I think businesses are limited on cashback and it is also used to give the discount to this market and try and stem the flow of hardware between regions.

ollie87

I still don't get how either of these things is really an issue. Why … I still don't get how either of these things is really an issue. Why would you want a GPU in a Microserver?Why is a long post time an issue on a server what is going to be running 24/7?


I used to think both of those were issues until I got one. I think even those with N**L version would change their mind after using iLo etc...

ollie87

I still don't get how either of these things is really an issue. Why … I still don't get how either of these things is really an issue. Why would you want a GPU in a Microserver?Why is a long POST time an issue on a server what is going to be running 24/7?



Lots of people use these as a mediaplayer or a transcodoing box. Some even play games on them :P

The POST time is a nightmare when setting up as it adds time to the whole process. If you are installing windows you probably have to reboot at least 5-10 times while updating and installing drivers. Time = money.

Incognitoso

I have looked my self to replace my old server NL35 with home server OS


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci5BOSeW0AAoa3J.jpg
Edited by: "mikerr" 15th Sep 2016

Nice! Tempted to purchase to finally upgrade my N40L.

Original Poster

joshtbh

Is that exciting because you can you team them together to give 2Gbps?



freestyle

What processor did you upgrade to?



I upgraded my processor recently to a Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2, it's rated 10W higher than the Celeron but it gives me 4 cores multithreaded and is a far superior processor, heat is not really an issue it's not a massive increase I used quality heatsink compound, and will keep an eye out on the internal temp. The LGA1155 socket gives you loads of options check out this site homeservershow.com/for…aq/

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KHANTHEFIRST

I upgraded my processor recently to a Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2, it's rated … I upgraded my processor recently to a Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2, it's rated 10W higher than the Celeron but it gives me 4 cores multithreaded and is a far superior processor, heat is not really an issue it's not a massive increase I used quality heatsink compound, and will keep an eye out on the internal temp. The LGA1155 socket gives you loads of options check out this site http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/6596-hp-microserver-gen8-processor-faq/



the other most significant upgrade was to not use a cd drive and instead use the space for a SSD drive, using a splitter to power the drive and connecting it to the data cable intended for the cd rom, I installed Windows server on the SSD and set up RAID on the installed HDD in the bays.

There is also an internal SSD card slot and internal usb slot, many people have used these for boot devices (Linux/Unix OS for example)

I upgraded my processor recently to a Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2, it's rated 10W higher than the Celeron but it gives me 4 cores multithreaded and is a far superior processor, heat is not really an issue it's not a massive increase I used quality heatsink compound, and will keep an eye out on the internal temp. The LGA1155 socket gives you loads of options check out this site homeservershow.com/for…aq/[/quote]

How much you paid for that processor? seems to be avialable on amazon for 400£. Seems to me that T20 is way better deal with a Xeon in it.

Okay well let's break this down a little and apply some logic to HUKD for a change...

abaxas

Lots of people use these as a mediaplayer or a transcodoing box.



Uhm, okay. But that does really need a dedicated GPU? You'd be better off build a mITX HTPC as a media player, transcoding? Maybe that's a different story, although I don't know what you're really doing transcoding with such a weak CPU. Correct me if I'm way of the mark, but I don't know of any consumer transcoding software packages (such as Plex) that will make use of GPU power to speed up transcode.

abaxas

Some even play games on them :P



Right, why? The CPU is weak and there isn't much room to upgrade. For only a little bit more money you could build a mITX gaming rig that is also a HTPC.

abaxas

The POST time is a nightmare when setting up as it adds time to the whole … The POST time is a nightmare when setting up as it adds time to the whole process. If you are installing windows you probably have to reboot at least 5-10 times while updating and installing drivers. Time = money.



I don't really see how that's an issue at home, if it's a hobby you'll have factored in tinkering time. Time == money in a corporate environment, in which case I'd ask:

Why are you using something so underpowered in a corporate environment?
Why aren't you imaging your servers? No 10s of reboots if you do that.
Why are you using a consumer version of Windows?

At the end of the day, all the negatives you've listed revolve around using this machine for purposes it was not designed for; as such you cannot moan.
Edited by: "ollie87" 15th Sep 2016

Original Poster

pandat

I upgraded my processor recently to a Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2, it's rated … I upgraded my processor recently to a Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2, it's rated 10W higher than the Celeron but it gives me 4 cores multithreaded and is a far superior processor, heat is not really an issue it's not a massive increase I used quality heatsink compound, and will keep an eye out on the internal temp. The LGA1155 socket gives you loads of options check out this site http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/6596-hp-microserver-gen8-processor-faq/


How much you paid for that processor? seems to be avialable on amazon for 400£. Seems to me that T20 is way better deal with a Xeon in it.[/quote]


I had to shop around for that processor, went to ebay in the end, I was intending on using a I5 processor but this was not ECC and would render my RAM useless, check the link I sent there are loads of processors you can use and many have been verified. I wanted that proc as I could spin up a whole bunch of virtual machines (it shows as 8 cores in Windows server due to the multiple threads).


Edited by: "KHANTHEFIRST" 15th Sep 2016

Original Poster

abaxas

Lots of people use these as a mediaplayer or a transcodoing box.

abaxas

Some even play games on them :P

abaxas

The POST time is a nightmare when setting up as it adds time to the … The POST time is a nightmare when setting up as it adds time to the whole process. If you are installing windows you probably have to reboot at least 5-10 times while updating and installing drivers. Time = money.



Agreed, mine is purely for a home lab setup, it is nice and quiet and the cooling can be adjusted to make it even quieter, alternatives are full blown production servers and I don't fancy running one of those in my home.
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