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HP ProLiant MicroServer Dual Core (4 bay NAS) Home Server £229.11 @ IT247
HP ProLiant MicroServer Dual Core (4 bay NAS) Home Server £229.11 @ IT247

HP ProLiant MicroServer Dual Core (4 bay NAS) Home Server £229.11 @ IT247

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This is probably the best nas for the money hot swapable drives NDB warranty (NO OS) has built in video and less than 21db when running.

Specifications

Product Description
HP ProLiant MicroServer Dual Core 1.3Ghz AMD Athlon II
Type Server
Memory 1GB (1x1GB) UDIMM
Controller Embedded SATA
Gigabit NIC Embedded NIC Embedded NIC
Hard Drives Pluggable 1 x 160GB Included
Optical None

39 Comments

Not bad, put I'd personally pay £30 more for this:
amazon.co.uk/dp/…3BM (Acer easyStore H340)

It's low powered (but more than enough for a NAS) - it comes with Windows Home Server, so can handle backups of you PC's / Laptops etc. It also comes with 2 640GB hard drives and like the HP, you can easily pop in a couple more drives (so upto 8TB!!)

However, only single core, so if you want to run other services on it (like video encoding) then might not be the best option. It can handle bittorrent etc fine.

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nick666

Not bad, put I'd personally pay £30 more for … Not bad, put I'd personally pay £30 more for this:[url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00378L3BM]http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00378L3BM[/url] (Acer easyStore H340)It's low powered (but more than enough for a NAS) - it comes with Windows Home Server, so can handle backups of you PC's / Laptops etc. It also comes with 2 640GB hard drives and like the HP, you can easily pop in a couple more drives (so upto 8TB!!)However, only single core, so if you want to run other services on it (like video encoding) then might not be the best option. It can handle bittorrent etc fine.



Good point the extra HD space is handy and so is the WHS software, I would say this is easy for the home user due to the CD/DVD slot and VGA connector. If you are not used to headless devices they can be tricky to say the least.

More info on the box

Ok, having done a little more research I'm liking this box more and more. On top of the dvd/vga options, you also get to pci-e (1x1 & 1x16) which is great for a tv card or other expansion option (half height/length types).

More info here:
h10010.www1.hp.com/wwp…tml

You'll almost certainly want to increase the RAM - but it does have two slots and can take upto 8GB.

This is probably the best nas for the money



Except that it isnt a NAS - its a server.

Sure, it can be run as a NAS if you so desire - but it isnt in itself a NAS.

To my mind, at this price point, if you want a NAS only, you would be better off with a "proper" NAS chassis. If you want a server, you can get higher powered for the same price (I paid £110 for a Dell Poweredge with the same spec about 2 years ago) - albeit, not the same form factor.

Voting hot on price - I think its a nice little bit of kit, at a decent enough price point, but relatively niche in that it sits between two differing tasks, and not quite as cost effective as other kit dedicated for either purpose.

Just my opinion

MrShed

Except that it isnt a NAS - its a server.Sure, it can be run as a NAS if … Except that it isnt a NAS - its a server.Sure, it can be run as a NAS if you so desire - but it isnt in itself a NAS.To my mind, at this price point, if you want a NAS only, you would be better off with a "proper" NAS chassis. If you want a server, you can get higher powered for the same price (I paid £110 for a Dell Poweredge with the same spec about 2 years ago) - albeit, not the same form factor.Voting hot on price - I think its a nice little bit of kit, at a decent enough price point, but relatively niche in that it sits between two differing tasks, and not quite as cost effective as other kit dedicated for either purpose.Just my opinion



I agree.

A dedicated NAS is about as good as it gets for me. A server? MAybe but I need it switched on all the time so power usage is a consideration.
For someone else who it ticks boxes for, this is a great deal, just not for me. I will however say HP Kit has been spot on ion my experience (my NAS and all my laptops are HP and cant fault them)

the name is in the product description - its a microserver rather than a NAS box; whilst it could be argued that a NAS is a file server anyway - you can actually pull the side off this one and swap parts out - it has dimm slots , sata and 2x pcie slots - most things your average NAS for home use doesn`t have - they honestly are just plug in and go..

or maybe just those from my experience - what i`ve found is the NAS i have used - all under £150 with 1TB of HD space , are just as good as ones twice the amount
Edited by: "Harlequinuk" 1st Oct 2010

as an aside - i've been dilydallying over getting the HP X510 WHS box, which on the face of it seems to be a higher spec'd version of the boxes above. i probably wouldnt consider the acer given the atom chip, but are there any other options out there i should be considering?

MrShed

Except that it isnt a NAS - its a server.Sure, it can be run as a NAS if … Except that it isnt a NAS - its a server.Sure, it can be run as a NAS if you so desire - but it isnt in itself a NAS.To my mind, at this price point, if you want a NAS only, you would be better off with a "proper" NAS chassis. If you want a server, you can get higher powered for the same price (I paid £110 for a Dell Poweredge with the same spec about 2 years ago) - albeit, not the same form factor.Voting hot on price - I think its a nice little bit of kit, at a decent enough price point, but relatively niche in that it sits between two differing tasks, and not quite as cost effective as other kit dedicated for either purpose.Just my opinion



To be fair, the specs of the server render it to be of little use other than a fancy NAS drive.
HP have once again utilised their botched up the RAID controller (only 0, 1), so of limited use as a back up server.
You're right in that it sits in it's own little niche, the problems is ... it's an expensive NAS drive, or a poor back up server. It's certainly not powerful enough to be anything else. To bring it up to spec would mean spending money which would be better suited to buy a better base unit.

Or as Nick666 posted, but the Acer Easystore H340. Twice as many HDDs, and comes with MS WHS.


Voted cold. Not everything that's cheap is a bargain

To be fair, the specs of the server render it to be of little use other … To be fair, the specs of the server render it to be of little use other than a fancy NAS drive.



Thats a rather sweeping statement. As I say, my home server has the same specs and does what I want it to do seamlessly (file and printer sharing, running WS2003).

It also streams media (includign on the fly transcoding) with no problem.

This will perform most basic server tasks (certainly in terms of home use) with zero issues. Especially if you used linux instead of windows.

Server spec becomes an issue at a business level, and the throughput associated with that. At home level, I disagree that this is of "little use" other than as a NAS.

The hardware may only do raid 0/1 but if you're going to NAS it, you will probably use Linux/Solaris and you can do software RAID with minimal overhead. I find ZFS on Solaris to be particularly good.
With a "server" OS rather than some windows version you'll be able to leave it on all the time and it's quiet enough to ignore.
The fact that you've got a useful OS (rather than a limited NAS) means you can make it do mail/web server and download manager tasks as well as NAS. You could probably even get VirtualBox and run up some virtual windows instances if you wanted windows sometimes (would probably need more RAM for more than one or 2 VMs). Or even other VMs (Linux, OSX, Solaris).

The 4 hot swap hard drive bays might appeal to people who transfer data to friends. Use 3 disks for storage and one for transfer?
Disks don't fail much these days, so hot swap isn't much of an issue for home users, you can afford the downtime if the worst happens. Anyone running a 24*7 mission critical environment will probably have a server room and not care about power usage or noise.

An interesting box, but it seems to be another solution without a problem!

Can't decide if this is hot or not. I guess if one of it's features is what you need then it's probably not very hot. But I don't think there are many boxes with all the weird features this thing has, so it could be very hot for some "niche" users.
Maybe someone living in a small flat/home office that wants a quiet reliable server!

install windows home server and you're done! good deal.

MrShed

I paid £110 for a Dell Poweredge with the same spec about 2 years ago


If only those kind of deals came round again ....

mikerr

If only those kind of deals came round again ....



kikatek.com/pro…152

Ooops sorry out of stock lol

punkrjb

install windows home server and you're done! good deal.



Which adds another £75 ish to the price tag,

Why not just dump Ubuntu Server on it for free ?

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Read all the comments with interest and just like to add;

NAS:
Can't find any with a next day warranty or with 4 bays with raid, those I can find have users complaining about the noise and the fact they need it to do more i.e. print server, torrents etc. in regards to the OS use free nas or linux no cost option.

Home server:
I agree with the comment earlier this is not a business server if that is what you need then don't buy this. I have myself the Acer h340 & HP ex490 and both are great with WHS but would not recommend the Acer H340 with WHS but more as a limited NAS only.

Microserver
For me the main benefit is being able to hook up a monitor and DVD without buying after market cables making it much more user friendly for the home user, for the price of £540 you could have a 8TB home server which I think is value for money in any body's book.

Having posted stuff like this before I would just like to say thanks for the comments.

MrShed

[url=http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=40152]http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=40152[/url]



This one is in stock, and with HDD (1 qty 250GB) - although no RAM installed.
redstore.com/HPX…0MF

Better speced (bar no RAM supplied OOB) but same price as this deal

Don't really need one. I have the HP Datavault X510
Some people have had very poor customer service with HP, and their forum support is like a ghost town compared to QNAP, Thecus and Synology so bear that in mind. So not gonna vote hot or cold. Customer Service and Manufacture warranty is just as important as the product itself and you need to really consider that when buying NAS/WHS devices.

gizmouk

Which adds another £75 ish to the price tag,Why not just dump Ubuntu … Which adds another £75 ish to the price tag,Why not just dump Ubuntu Server on it for free ?



same reason most people don't run linux as their primary OS

Love to get one of these and install Linux on it, but alas (like most techy stuff) I just don't really need it!

If I actually needed a full on home server I'd probably build it from bits anyway.. easier to get around the wife approval aspect that way!

PS. Not voted either way - I think it's a fairly unique product which will appeal to some and not to others, and I can't make my mind up.
Edited by: "StormB" 1st Oct 2010

Sorry but £238.40is a total ripp off for all that this is, its essentially a over priced stone age computer in a big case.

There was a £56 debranded dell Atom box on here few months ago almost same speed, just add harddrives and RAM.

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Sorry but £238.40is a total ripp off for all that this is, its … Sorry but £238.40is a total ripp off for all that this is, its essentially a over priced stone age computer in a big case.There was a £56 debranded dell Atom box on here few months ago almost same speed, just add harddrives and RAM.



Not the same 2 SATA ports only no external access to the hard drives, I could go on but I think it would be waste of time explaining. Not really a like for like comparison but for those who maybe interested:
aria.co.uk/Pro…606

They are still available at £58.74 each
Edited by: "Bowler_man" 1st Oct 2010

nick666

Not bad, put I'd personally pay £30 more for … Not bad, put I'd personally pay £30 more for this:http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00378L3BM (Acer easyStore H340)It's low powered (but more than enough for a NAS) - it comes with Windows Home Server, so can handle backups of you PC's / Laptops etc. It also comes with 2 640GB hard drives and like the HP, you can easily pop in a couple more drives (so upto 8TB!!)However, only single core, so if you want to run other services on it (like video encoding) then might not be the best option. It can handle bittorrent etc fine.



good price though prefer the hp mediasmart version which i have...still good though
Edited by: "royals" 1st Oct 2010

sbleh1 person likes this

Sorry but £238.40is a total ripp off for all that this is, its … Sorry but £238.40is a total ripp off for all that this is, its essentially a over priced stone age computer in a big case.There was a £56 debranded dell Atom box on here few months ago almost same speed, just add harddrives and RAM.



stupid comparison.....the acer has a small form case (say £40-50), whs os(approx £65-70), two 640gb disks (say £80-100)....so your solution is more exp unless you use linux...id prefer a small form to a lard butt server (tho the latter has advantages)
Edited by: "royals" 1st Oct 2010

Bowler_man

Good point the extra HD space is handy and so is the WHS software, I … Good point the extra HD space is handy and so is the WHS software, I would say this is easy for the home user due to the CD/DVD slot and VGA connector. If you are not used to headless devices they can be tricky to say the least.



As WHS is designed for home use without a monitor it's actually very easy to use headless, I was genuinely impressed with it and surprised it's slipped under the radar quite so much. If you haven't tried WHS you should be able to get a 30 day version straight from MS which is worth a look to see what it's like.

I quite fancy building a WHS box, I initially tried running it as a VM within a Win7 OS so that I could have the media capabilities of Win7 and the NAS features of WHS on one machine but it wasn't work that well. I've looked into building an Atom box as its low power is ideal for this but a chassis with four bays (plus 2.5in for the OS) isn't cheap, by the time you add the Atom board/processor it's a similar price to the Acer. Just a shame the Acer isn't sold empty as I'm not interested in the HDD combinations they offer.

John

sbleh1 person likes this

Sorry but £238.40is a total ripp off for all that this is, its … Sorry but £238.40is a total ripp off for all that this is, its essentially a over priced stone age computer in a big case.


I feel the same way. And if it really uses 200W of electricity, it will also be expensive to run - nearly 200 pounds per year if you run it all the time.

punkrjb

same reason most people don't run linux as their primary OS



Give it time me fruit.
MS are slowly losing their grip on the browser war ... IE9 should be a death nail
The OS war will be next (_;)

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MrPuddington

I feel the same way. And if it really uses 200W of electricity, it will … I feel the same way. And if it really uses 200W of electricity, it will also be expensive to run - nearly 200 pounds per year if you run it all the time.



Power: The HP MicroServer is powered by a single 200 Watt non-hot pluggable power supply. As would be expected in an entry level server there is no option to add a redundant power supply. The low power (15W) CPU definitely contributes to keeping the running cost of the MicroServer to a minimum, with HP quoting that a fully loaded configuration only consuming an impresssive 70W of power.

Cost of running fully loaded for a year £96.10 assuming 0.11p per KW, probably around the same cost as running a fridge, freezer or TV.

If you would like to know more about what your looking at Sootie posted a link;
techhead.co.uk/new…ate

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Johnmcl7

As WHS is designed for home use without a monitor it's actually very easy … As WHS is designed for home use without a monitor it's actually very easy to use headless, I was genuinely impressed with it and surprised it's slipped under the radar quite so much. If you haven't tried WHS you should be able to get a 30 day version straight from MS which is worth a look to see what it's like. I quite fancy building a WHS box, I initially tried running it as a VM within a Win7 OS so that I could have the media capabilities of Win7 and the NAS features of WHS on one machine but it wasn't work that well. I've looked into building an Atom box as its low power is ideal for this but a chassis with four bays (plus 2.5in for the OS) isn't cheap, by the time you add the Atom board/processor it's a similar price to the Acer. Just a shame the Acer isn't sold empty as I'm not interested in the HDD combinations they offer.John



You would be better off with this Microserver due to the ability to upgrade the ram to 8GB, plug in a monitor, insert 2 X PCI-e (Half Hight cards) & add a CD/DVD none of which the Acer H340 or HP Media Smart can do making this a lot more user friendly. You also mention you use VM, you could actully use this as a ESX/ESXI server via the internal USB (Ram upgraded would be needed).

Bowler_man

Power: The HP MicroServer is powered by a single 200 Watt non-hot … Power: The HP MicroServer is powered by a single 200 Watt non-hot pluggable power supply. As would be expected in an entry level server there is no option to add a redundant power supply. The low power (15W) CPU definitely contributes to keeping the running cost of the MicroServer to a minimum, with HP quoting that a fully loaded configuration only consuming an impresssive 70W of power.Cost of running fully loaded for a year £96.10 assuming 0.11p per KW, probably around the same cost as running a fridge, freezer or TV. If you would like to know more about what your looking at Sootie posted a link;http://www.techhead.co.uk/new-hp-proliant-microserver-a-decent-vsphere-lab-server-candidate



My Buffalo Linkstation only uses around 20watts tops. Granted it's only a NAS, but it's similar to other NAS's which is about a third of what this uses.

Just bought one of these as it was a great deal for £129 with the £100 cash back. Not sure whether to stick Ubuntu 10.10 server 64bit or 32bit though.

To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?

I placed an order between the Christmas and New Year break, have received the server but to date I don't have any form of invoice. All that was delivered with the book was a shipment note with no mention of the word invoice. I've had a look at my account online, there is a section called Transactions but clicking on this retrieves nothing.

I've asked this question via an email to their CS but they not yet answered but thought I'd ask here.

When you go to transactions make sure you view "All transactions" not just open items. I ordered mine at about the same time as you and my invoice is online.

IAmATeaf

To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I … To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I placed an order between the Christmas and New Year break, have received the server but to date I don't have any form of invoice. All that was delivered with the book was a shipment note with no mention of the word invoice. I've had a look at my account online, there is a section called Transactions but clicking on this retrieves nothing.I've asked this question via an email to their CS but they not yet answered but thought I'd ask here.

IAmATeaf

To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I … To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I placed an order between the Christmas and New Year break, have received the server but to date I don't have any form of invoice. All that was delivered with the book was a shipment note with no mention of the word invoice. I've had a look at my account online, there is a section called Transactions but clicking on this retrieves nothing.I've asked this question via an email to their CS but they not yet answered but thought I'd ask here.



I'm in the same boat as you. It appears that IT247's systems have got confused with the VAT increase. Under 'invoices' in 'My Account' I've got two entries, one showing that I've been charged £212-ish and the other showing that the goods I purchased are £216-ish. I called IT247 yesterday and they said my invoice would follow shortly by post, so I left it at that.

IAmATeaf

To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I … To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I placed an order between the Christmas and New Year break, have received the server but to date I don't have any form of invoice. All that was delivered with the book was a shipment note with no mention of the word invoice. I've had a look at my account online, there is a section called Transactions but clicking on this retrieves nothing.I've asked this question via an email to their CS but they not yet answered but thought I'd ask here.



I received the invoice a few days after the server arrived. Ordered the server on the 23rd and it turned up the next day, the invoice didn't arrive until the next week.

IAmATeaf

To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I … To the people who purchased from it247, when do you get an invoice?I placed an order between the Christmas and New Year break, have received the server but to date I don't have any form of invoice. All that was delivered with the book was a shipment note with no mention of the word invoice. I've had a look at my account online, there is a section called Transactions but clicking on this retrieves nothing.I've asked this question via an email to their CS but they not yet answered but thought I'd ask here.



My invoice is now showing in my online account. Just filling the form in now.

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This has no EOL'd so no more left.

If anyone is bored or unhappy with theirs I'm looking for one and would pay £150 inc del. Email me at myusername@gmail.com - Ta!
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