HP ProLiant ML10 v2 G3240 Tower Server £155.94 (£90.94 after cashback) @ serversplus
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HP ProLiant ML10 v2 G3240 Tower Server £155.94 (£90.94 after cashback) @ serversplus

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Found 5th Oct 2015
I'm new to the site but I'm pretty sure this is legit.

£65 cashback from HP on this model: serversplus.com/pdf…pdf

Delivery is £4.95+VAT

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Nice find Minined
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hot!
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Thanks, I'd been looking out for another TS140 deal but this looks so cheap I ordered it instead. Anyone know if this model has the same issue the gen8 micro server has with the fan control?
Bargain. Better than Gen8. Just unnecessarily big. Not so easy to remove drives, but in reality how often do you do that. 4GBytes of ram. 2 USB2, 2 USB3. Faster CPU.
Nice find. Heard its cheaper in Calais on a Sunday ;-)
Great deal. Preference would be for the Gen8 Microserver mostly for it's size. This will perform better though.
I'd buy the Dell T20 with a quad core Xeon for £239.94 with £70 cashback...

http://www.serversplus.com/servers/tower_servers/dell_tower_servers/20-3708

That would also make a great workstation if you stick an SSD and a bit more RAM in it. I'm using one to run ESXi and multiple virtual machines.
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jasee

Bargain. Better than Gen8. Just unnecessarily big. Not so easy to remove … Bargain. Better than Gen8. Just unnecessarily big. Not so easy to remove drives, but in reality how often do you do that. 4GBytes of ram. 2 USB2, 2 USB3. Faster CPU.

S0QR1TabascoS0QR1 Jan 3, 2015 at 12:02 PMThe Microserver G8 is a great … S0QR1TabascoS0QR1 Jan 3, 2015 at 12:02 PMThe Microserver G8 is a great server for the price. You said you run VMs, do you use exsi as the hypervisor? If so the Microserver is on the Hardware Compatibility Liste from vmware. As far as i know the ML 10 is not.I have several Gen8 running with vmware in small production envoirements, they perform great for the price. The Gen8 features USB3(if you ever need to backup to external Disk or something). Also the Gen8 has 2 Gb Network Ports where one can be dedicated to iLO as the ML10 only has 1 shared port.If you want to run vmware esxi as hypervisor the MS Gen8 has an internal SD Card slot you can use to install esxi on. You have then all 4 Bays for storage.


I think that's the previous version of the ML10. This is the v2 which has the same B120i raid controller as the microserver and is also on the vmware HCL.
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Berhwale

I'd buy the Dell T20 with a quad core Xeon for £239.94 with £70 c … I'd buy the Dell T20 with a quad core Xeon for £239.94 with £70 cashback...http://www.serversplus.com/servers/tower_servers/dell_tower_servers/20-3708


That does look like a good buy. I'm on a tight budget on this occasion though so the slower CPU will have to suffice.
Looking to upgrade my hp mediasmart server which had for 5+ years now. Only use it for storage but it runs sabnzd can you get this to run on this?
Any idea on the power draw?
This has 2 lan sockets I see, wonder if I could use it as an intelligent router to get my rokus to pretend to be in America while the rest of my kits stays in the UK?
AndyRoyd

Strange. Ebuyer hosts formal HP cashback doc stating £50 cashback 01 … Strange. Ebuyer hosts formal HP cashback doc stating £50 cashback 01 Sept - 31 Oct 2015 whereas SP host formal HP cashback doc stating £65 cashback 01-31 Oct 2015.



Going through the "Official" HP Promotions site, It has a heading which says £50 cashback for the ML10v2, but the actual claim form says £65 (for model 814483-031) !
Just saw the RAM prices, can it take none-ECC?
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tek-monkey

Just saw the RAM prices, can it take none-ECC?


No it's ECC only, the Kingston compatible stuff is about £45 for 8GB: amazon.co.uk/dp/…HB8
Voted hot for price but just be careful of Dims - 4U isn't really home server size..
This is going to sound dumb but could this be used as a cheap office PC?
Funghi

This is going to sound dumb but could this be used as a cheap office PC?



Yes, but it will need storage adding and an OS installing (plus display, keyboard etc.). There are usually better deals around for complete desktop PCs.
tek-monkey

This has 2 lan sockets I see, wonder if I could use it as an intelligent … This has 2 lan sockets I see, wonder if I could use it as an intelligent router to get my rokus to pretend to be in America while the rest of my kits stays in the UK?



​Just buy a cheap router for that it'll make your life so much easier.
Great price, its definitely time to take the plunge.

Going to use this as a plex server for my home theatre setup as NAS's are just too dear. in time, the ML10 will house 4 x 6TB WD Reds which is more than enough space to store decent blurry rips.

Crucial RAM for this is also dirt chip (£40-45) and the only other thing i'll need is a decent blurry writer to make life easier when it comes to building my media library.

As for a decent Plex client, something like the new popcorn hour Vten which has 4k pass through.
Edited by: "LordDalron" 5th Oct 2015
LordDalron

Great price, its definitely time to take the plunge.Going to use this as … Great price, its definitely time to take the plunge.Going to use this as a plex server for my home theatre setup as NAS's are just too dear. in time, the ML10 will house 4 x 6TB WD Reds which is more than enough space to store decent blurry rips. Crucial RAM for this is also dirt chip (£40-45) and the only other thing i'll need is a decent blurry writer to make life easier when it comes to building my media library.As for a decent Plex client, something like the new popcorn hour Vten which has 4k pass through.


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LordDalron

Great price, its definitely time to take the plunge.Going to use this as … Great price, its definitely time to take the plunge.Going to use this as a plex server for my home theatre setup as NAS's are just too dear. in time, the ML10 will house 4 x 6TB WD Reds which is more than enough space to store decent blurry rips. Crucial RAM for this is also dirt chip (£40-45) and the only other thing i'll need is a decent blurry writer to make life easier when it comes to building my media library.As for a decent Plex client, something like the new popcorn hour Vten which has 4k pass through.



Stick XPenology on it. 4GB is plenty of RAM for file serving and Plex, you don't need to add anymore.
Minined

I think that's the previous version of the ML10. This is the v2 which … I think that's the previous version of the ML10. This is the v2 which has the same B120i raid controller as the microserver and is also on the vmware HCL.



And, IMO, esxi is greatly overrated and much less versatile than workstation. (I am using esxi on gen8). And of course you can use much more ram with the ML 10. The ML 10 has two USB3 ports! If you want to add more USB3, a card will cost about £7

The main thing transcoding and virtual machines need is a faster CPU, which this has.


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Berhwale

Stick XPenology on it. 4GB is plenty of RAM for file serving and Plex, … Stick XPenology on it. 4GB is plenty of RAM for file serving and Plex, you don't need to add anymore.



​xpenology would be a waste of a machine this capable it's great on a microserver but this deserves an OS I recommend kubuntu.
So what server software (free) would you recommend for a xeon 3.2 fujitsu ts100 s3, i bought it recently tried unraid and didnt think much of it, also my mac decides to forget to mount it very often and this has played havoc with file transfers/torrents, the trials expired and i cant access the data atm lol

oh has to be headless install as i have an imac and surface pro 3.

Edited by: "tragictramp" 5th Oct 2015
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So what server software (free) would you recommend for a xeon 3.2 fujitsu … So what server software (free) would you recommend for a xeon 3.2 fujitsu ts100 s3, i bought it recently tried unraid and didnt think much of it, also my mac decides to forget to mount it very often and this has played havoc with file transfers/torrents, the trials expired and i cant access the data atm loloh has to be headless install as i have an imac and surface pro 3.



​Depends what you want it to do...

For example, just a file server? or do you want it to be a DNLA server, torrent downloader, live tv server etc?

I personally recommend Kubuntu as it can be adapted to do pretty much anything however if your not that good with Linux then try XPnology which is a NAS that can do most things and in my opinion better than unraid.

I personally run both, my 24/7 server runs Kubuntu and XPnology is powered on to back up everything.
I wonder how long we have until the Skylake Xeon E3 chip based servers arrive for order? Must be in the next few months or so
tragictramp

So what server software (free) would you recommend for a xeon 3.2 fujitsu … So what server software (free) would you recommend for a xeon 3.2 fujitsu ts100 s3, i bought it recently tried unraid and didnt think much of it, also my mac decides to forget to mount it very often and this has played havoc with file transfers/torrents, the trials expired and i cant access the data atm loloh has to be headless install as i have an imac and surface pro 3.



Zentyal is free, very user friendly (web gui) and does a hell of a lot - I love it!
I am interested in getting this to replace my N54L, Want to use it for Usenet download, DNLA server and stream via home network to my kodi devices. I also use some media manager tools like emby and tiny media manager. Would it be beast to stick to windows or try something like Xpenology?
OrribleHarry

​xpenology would be a waste of a machine this capable it's great on a m … ​xpenology would be a waste of a machine this capable it's great on a microserver but this deserves an OS I recommend kubuntu.



You can use xpenology to do quite a lot - multi camera CCTV, docker containers etc all which would use up the CPU nicely
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Rob_Quads

You can use xpenology to do quite a lot - multi camera CCTV, docker … You can use xpenology to do quite a lot - multi camera CCTV, docker containers etc all which would use up the CPU nicely



​You can your right but it's very limited for integrated drivers and if they are missing it's very difficult to add new ones. TV tuner card drivers for TVHeadend in particular are very lacking.

At least with Linux you can run any hardware without any problems.
OrribleHarry

​You can your right but it's very limited for integrated drivers and if t … ​You can your right but it's very limited for integrated drivers and if they are missing it's very difficult to add new ones. TV tuner card drivers for TVHeadend in particular are very lacking.At least with Linux you can run any hardware without any problems.



I agree on the driver front at the moment (just playing with a FreeSat tuner in DVBLink under Xpenology) but if you don't want to get your hands dirty with Linux then the Synology/Xpenology is a very very user friendly environment.
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Rob_Quads

I agree on the driver front at the moment (just playing with a FreeSat … I agree on the driver front at the moment (just playing with a FreeSat tuner in DVBLink under Xpenology) but if you don't want to get your hands dirty with Linux then the Synology/Xpenology is a very very user friendly environment.



​Yes it's excellent at what it does! I use it for backups and it's great.
These dimensions...

Height 36.82 cm
Width 17.5 cm
Depth 47.52 cm

That's TINY! I'm looking at my 15" laptop screen now, which is around 38cm (corner to corner.) So this thing in less tall than the diagonal length of my screen?!

This seems like an awesome deal.

Power Draw

BTW, someone asked about power draw.. I was curious about that too. It looks as though without adding any drives (although obviously you'll want to), with standard config (no monitor, KB, etc) it'll draw around 110w. Hardly anything. I'd probably throw a couple of 4TB WD reds in RAID into this, though having looked into it, a WD red (4TB) actually only draws 6.8 watts of power.

So even with 4x4TB drives in RAID 5 (which is what I aim to use) we're talking an extra 28 watts, giving a tasty 8TB of storage nicely protected for redundancy. I think a fair assumption with reasonable storage capacity is going to be ~140 watts. Not bad!

According to my calculations, based on 140w power output running 24/7, at an electricity rate of 17.2 pence per kWh, it'd cost ~£17 to run per month.. not bad either, considering the cost of storage on cloud services, let alone the fact that this is infinitely more customisable, functional and privacy oriented (for those who care.) On the cheapest electricity rates we're talking around a tenner a month.

Some extra info:

https://www.reddit.com/r/servers/comments/3f4utk/anyone_here_got_a_hp_proliant_ml10_v2/

https://www.ukpower.co.uk/tools/running_costs_electricity

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Get some context on its size with this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QrIxccXbo

My only consideration now is how loud the machine is, since I do want it operational 24/7 and most likely will have to put it in my lounge I think.






Edited by: "Quasso" 6th Oct 2015
I have a HDMI monitor, any suggestions how to connect this please ?
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itsvinod2k

I have a HDMI monitor, any suggestions how to connect this please ?



​A cheap graphics card is easiest way, however are you sure the monitor doesn't have VGA as well? HDMI only monitors are very rare.
OrribleHarry

​A cheap graphics card is easiest way, however are you sure the monitor d … ​A cheap graphics card is easiest way, however are you sure the monitor doesn't have VGA as well? HDMI only monitors are very rare.



Thanks for your response. It is a LG 24M32xxx smart tv which I'm using as a monitor for my laptop when at home. It has two HDMIs but no VGA. I will check on the graphics card.
Berhwale

I'd buy the Dell T20 with a quad core Xeon for £239.94 with £70 c … I'd buy the Dell T20 with a quad core Xeon for £239.94 with £70 cashback...http://www.serversplus.com/servers/tower_servers/dell_tower_servers/20-3708That would also make a great workstation if you stick an SSD and a bit more RAM in it. I'm using one to run ESXi and multiple virtual machines.



​And a sound card?
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