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scott2c15/11/2019 17:12

Cheers! That's definitely done something and the speeds similar to my …Cheers! That's definitely done something and the speeds similar to my E3372 now.How do you know what band you on? Do you have to use these other tools people mention?


I work it out from the cell ID on the settings page (system > device information) using this you can lookup your location on cellmapper.net and it will tell you what frequency band is being deployed.

Best thing to do is using the same router page (device information) and what you have learned to the location of the mast on cellmapper very slowly rotate the router and keep pressing the “refresh” button every degree you turn. Observe the RSRP value and turn until you get the highest value (-90 is better than -100). Play around with the router height as well. This can make massive differences.

To anyone trying this the best speed is not always directly pointing the router at the mast so always keep trying different angles. Obviously though you want to be on the same side of the house though). A lot of the time the reflections of the signal is what your are receiving as most don’t have line of sight to mast. 30mins faffing could increase speed by 10’s of Mb’s
Edited by: "gary333" 15th Nov 2019
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These are epic, we use them at work.
As long as it's not the Huawei HG633 (if you're a TalkTalk customer, you'll know what I'm talking about).

Btw, I'm not a Huawei-hater, I have a Mate 20X
I have one of these from this seller and can confirm that bridge mode is enabled in the settings and the RJ11 port isn't blocked in the firmware.
Currently using a Galaxy S5 to tether Three internet. It does the job most of the time, but does anyone have experience jumping from a similar setup i.e. hotspot tethering with a phone to then using something like this? Did you find a large enough increase in speed to justify the cost?
Dejaque14/11/2019 13:59

Currently using a Galaxy S5 to tether Three internet. It does the job most …Currently using a Galaxy S5 to tether Three internet. It does the job most of the time, but does anyone have experience jumping from a similar setup i.e. hotspot tethering with a phone to then using something like this? Did you find a large enough increase in speed to justify the cost?


My B525 seems to pull in a stronger network signal than when I tether my phone plus you can also attach extra aerials for week areas, and also the wifi signal all around the house is massively improved over using my phone.
I ditched my Virgin Super hub (that wasn't Super in any way) for one of these and never looked back.
PaulandPam14/11/2019 14:08

My B525 seems to pull in a stronger network signal than when I tether my …My B525 seems to pull in a stronger network signal than when I tether my phone plus you can also attach extra aerials for week areas, and also the wifi signal all around the house is massively improved over using my phone.I ditched my Virgin Super hub (that wasn't Super in any way) for one of these and never looked back.


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That's what I'm getting ATM via my laptop tethering from a phone on a quick Google test.
Dejaque14/11/2019 13:59

Currently using a Galaxy S5 to tether Three internet. It does the job most …Currently using a Galaxy S5 to tether Three internet. It does the job most of the time, but does anyone have experience jumping from a similar setup i.e. hotspot tethering with a phone to then using something like this? Did you find a large enough increase in speed to justify the cost?


It'll depend on your phone, but I was using an LG G2 and didn't notice any notificeable difference in the speed. The thing you'll notice is the vast improvement in the range and strength of the wifi and the fact you're not limited to 8-10 devices to connect.
PaulandPam14/11/2019 14:08

My B525 seems to pull in a stronger network signal than when I tether my …My B525 seems to pull in a stronger network signal than when I tether my phone plus you can also attach extra aerials for week areas, and also the wifi signal all around the house is massively improved over using my phone.I ditched my Virgin Super hub (that wasn't Super in any way) for one of these and never looked back.


This is what I plan to do. Get rid of the cra**y Superhub 3 and replace it with this and my unlimited everything 3 SIM.
Dejaque14/11/2019 14:20

[Image] That's what I'm getting ATM via my laptop tethering from a phone …[Image] That's what I'm getting ATM via my laptop tethering from a phone on a quick Google test.


I often do speed tests since ditching Virgin, obviously the results depend on location and network congestion but here are the results for me in the outskirts of Liverpool using my B525 router.
When I was with Virgin I was getting 50meg download and a awful 3meg upload and it was costing me £38 a month with a landline.
I now have my landline plugged into this router to take advantage of the unlimited calls included with my 3 plan.
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Edited by: "PaulandPam" 14th Nov 2019
I love my B525 (on ThreeUK).

Here are my last couple of speed tests (I'm in North Wales, close to the border). I don't do any online gaming, so the ping's fine with me...

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Edited by: "GapsOfTheGod" 14th Nov 2019
Dejaque14/11/2019 14:20

[Image] That's what I'm getting ATM via my laptop tethering from a phone …[Image] That's what I'm getting ATM via my laptop tethering from a phone on a quick Google test.



Ouch! Are you connecting to 4G? If so, try setting it to 3G. Most people leave their phones on automatic connection so they all fight for the faster speed channels and ignore the slower speeds which are then often not as congested and you end up with a faster speed.

Also, I think I read somewhere that using mobiles as local hot-spots is generally a bad idea for battery life as they are not designed for long term use (they generate a lot more heat that way) only short term use in that mode. So getting a dedicate device such as this B525 is probably a better solution.

I've been using a B525 for nearly a year, went from a 3mbps phone line connection to 40+mbps. The kids even use it for online gaming and they've not complained of any problems. I did flash some custom FW that enables me to lock the device to a certain bandwidth to stop it constantly switching for the best signal. That isn't something for the weak hearted though.
louiselouise14/11/2019 13:17

As long as it's not the Huawei HG633 (if you're a TalkTalk customer, …As long as it's not the Huawei HG633 (if you're a TalkTalk customer, you'll know what I'm talking about).Btw, I'm not a Huawei-hater, I have a Mate 20X


Yes I do know what you mean
GuruMeditationError14/11/2019 15:43

Ouch! Are you connecting to 4G? If so, try setting it to 3G. Most …Ouch! Are you connecting to 4G? If so, try setting it to 3G. Most people leave their phones on automatic connection so they all fight for the faster speed channels and ignore the slower speeds which are then often not as congested and you end up with a faster speed.Also, I think I read somewhere that using mobiles as local hot-spots is generally a bad idea for battery life as they are not designed for long term use (they generate a lot more heat that way) only short term use in that mode. So getting a dedicate device such as this B525 is probably a better solution.I've been using a B525 for nearly a year, went from a 3mbps phone line connection to 40+mbps. The kids even use it for online gaming and they've not complained of any problems. I did flash some custom FW that enables me to lock the device to a certain bandwidth to stop it constantly switching for the best signal. That isn't something for the weak hearted though.


I use a Windows application called LTEInspecteur, and an Android app called HManager (which is in Polish, I think, but is understandable) to do the same thing. I might be interested in a more permie solution though. Do you have links to the firmware you used at all please?
GuruMeditationError14/11/2019 15:43

Ouch! Are you connecting to 4G? If so, try setting it to 3G. Most …Ouch! Are you connecting to 4G? If so, try setting it to 3G. Most people leave their phones on automatic connection so they all fight for the faster speed channels and ignore the slower speeds which are then often not as congested and you end up with a faster speed.Also, I think I read somewhere that using mobiles as local hot-spots is generally a bad idea for battery life as they are not designed for long term use (they generate a lot more heat that way) only short term use in that mode. So getting a dedicate device such as this B525 is probably a better solution.I've been using a B525 for nearly a year, went from a 3mbps phone line connection to 40+mbps. The kids even use it for online gaming and they've not complained of any problems. I did flash some custom FW that enables me to lock the device to a certain bandwidth to stop it constantly switching for the best signal. That isn't something for the weak hearted though.


Yeah connecting to 4G. I live in a town, so not sure how congested the area will be. It's an old Galaxy S5 that's way passed its best, it's plugged in charging constantly and has been for years. Still going strong!

I would imagine the B525 would help, but it depends on whether my speeds are bad because of Three in this area (supposed to be good according to the online check), congestion or the phone.
GapsOfTheGod14/11/2019 15:51

I use a Windows application called LTEInspecteur, and an Android app …I use a Windows application called LTEInspecteur, and an Android app called HManager (which is in Polish, I think, but is understandable) to do the same thing. I might be interested in a more permie solution though. Do you have links to the firmware you used at all please?


I'd be surprised if it didn't involve taking the case apart to set it up. I looked into doing that for my old B525 so I could use the rj11 port but there wasn't a copy of my current firmware that I could flash if I had any issues, so for once I took the sensible route!
GapsOfTheGod14/11/2019 15:51

I use a Windows application called LTEInspecteur, and an Android app …I use a Windows application called LTEInspecteur, and an Android app called HManager (which is in Polish, I think, but is understandable) to do the same thing. I might be interested in a more permie solution though. Do you have links to the firmware you used at all please?



Can't remember the exact one, I think I acquired it from this polish site :-
translate.google.com/tra…rch
I'm using software version 11.170.61.00.07 with Web UI version 21.100.31.00.03
You have to dismantle the B525 and bridge some pins to get it to take custom FW, I'm not sure it there's an easier way now. Obviously you do anything like that at your own risk!

Under network settings I get a list of LTE bands than I can tick, also UMTS & GSM Bands. The device would switch between 4G and 4G+, but that would kill online gaming (due to the delay in swapping) so locking it to just B3 & B32 it's been rock solid on 4G. Obviously your milage may vary.

Edit: Looks like someone did an English guide: forums.thinkbroadband.com/mob…c=1
Edited by: "GuruMeditationError" 14th Nov 2019
GuruMeditationError14/11/2019 16:17

Can't remember the exact one, I think I acquired it from this polish site …Can't remember the exact one, I think I acquired it from this polish site :-https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?t=50771&start=225&prev=searchI'm using software version 11.170.61.00.07 with Web UI version 21.100.31.00.03You have to dismantle the B525 and bridge some pins to get it to take custom FW, I'm not sure it there's an easier way now. Obviously you do anything like that at your own risk!Under network settings I get a list of LTE bands than I can tick, also UMTS & GSM Bands. The device would switch between 4G and 4G+, but that would kill online gaming (due to the delay in swapping) so locking it to just B3 & B32 it's been rock solid on 4G. Obviously your milage may vary.Edit: Looks like someone did an English guide: https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/mobilebroadband/4617033-huawei-b525-firmware-guide-to-enable-bridge-mode-and-more.html?fpart=all&vc=1


Yeah, think I'll stick with the apps method for now! I've aggregated on B3(1800mhz) and B20(800mzh) though. I can't see B32 as an option even!
GapsOfTheGod14/11/2019 16:23

Yeah, think I'll stick with the apps method for now! I've aggregated on …Yeah, think I'll stick with the apps method for now! I've aggregated on B3(1800mhz) and B20(800mzh) though. I can't see B32 as an option even!



B525s-23a: Band 1/3/7/8/20/32/38
B525s-65a: Band 1/3/4/5/7/8/20/19/26/28/32/38/40/41

Maybe it only allows you to select one side of the CA ?
seems decent
hot
Cannot remember if I’ve mentioned this on here before but band 3 and band 32 are not currently supported (together i.e carrier aggregation) on the B525 if the manual is to be believed.

Inter-band:
B3+B7, B3+B20,
B7+B20, B7+B8,
B3+B8,
B1+B20, B1+B8,
B20+B32
Edited by: "gary333" 14th Nov 2019
Thanks
GapsOfTheGod14/11/2019 15:10

I love my B525 (on ThreeUK).Here are my last couple of speed tests (I'm in …I love my B525 (on ThreeUK).Here are my last couple of speed tests (I'm in North Wales, close to the border). I don't do any online gaming, so the ping's fine with me...[Image] [Image]


Is this in a 4G+ area?
dem0nx14/11/2019 21:00

Is this in a 4G+ area?


Honestly, I'm not sure. I do see the plus symbol on occasion. On the Three coverage checker it tells me that even just plain old 4G isn't available on my postcode, but if I look at the map it would indicate I'm good for 4G indoors and outdoors.
GapsOfTheGod14/11/2019 21:06

Honestly, I'm not sure. I do see the plus symbol on occasion. On the Three …Honestly, I'm not sure. I do see the plus symbol on occasion. On the Three coverage checker it tells me that even just plain old 4G isn't available on my postcode, but if I look at the map it would indicate I'm good for 4G indoors and outdoors.


It has to be as you are getting over 110Mbps that would be the absolute limit on band 3 in the best of conditions (signal wise) and no other users. Max speed theoretically possible with both Three bands (band 3 and band 20) is 146Mbps.
I've got a smarty unlimited date sim with calls and texts.
How would I use the phone element with this router?
Just got this delivered but it's slower than my previous setup where I had a Fritz box with a Huawei E3372 dongle I was getting 10-30Mb down and a steady 20mb up on a Three business sim.

Loaded the B525 put in the same place with a newly activated SMARTY sim and i'm only getting around 1mb down and 4 up. Not touched settings and tried a few different locations and not making much difference, and showing strong signal. What is going on? Smarty can't be that much worse can it? I can't try the other sim in B525 as don't want to change size of the sim.

Seen this LTEinspecteur thing but pointless playing with this if even my defaults are dreadful and not near what i've had before.
Rob_Deeley14/11/2019 23:17

I've got a smarty unlimited date sim with calls and texts.How would I use …I've got a smarty unlimited date sim with calls and texts.How would I use the phone element with this router?


Simply plug your house phone into the back.
You may need to purchase a new telephone lead though because your phone may have a British telecom plug on the end and not a RJ11 connector, I bought this one from Amazon for 52p amazon.co.uk/gp/…c=1
Also when you make local calls don't forget to also dial the area code just like on your mobile.
Edited by: "PaulandPam" 15th Nov 2019
scott2c14/11/2019 23:18

Just got this delivered but it's slower than my previous setup where I had …Just got this delivered but it's slower than my previous setup where I had a Fritz box with a Huawei E3372 dongle I was getting 10-30Mb down and a steady 20mb up on a Three business sim. Loaded the B525 put in the same place with a newly activated SMARTY sim and i'm only getting around 1mb down and 4 up. Not touched settings and tried a few different locations and not making much difference, and showing strong signal. What is going on? Smarty can't be that much worse can it? I can't try the other sim in B525 as don't want to change size of the sim.Seen this LTEinspecteur thing but pointless playing with this if even my defaults are dreadful and not near what i've had before.


Sounds like it's only connected to 3G, open a browser and type in 192.168.8.1 to make sure it's running on 4G.
Also if you use a telephone plugged into the router to make a call the router drops to 3G during the call.
Anyone got this router and noticed a speed increase when compared to using it in their phone? Im using it in a b315 but still only get 30mb download on three
johnnycbit15/11/2019 08:20

Anyone got this router and noticed a speed increase when compared to using …Anyone got this router and noticed a speed increase when compared to using it in their phone? Im using it in a b315 but still only get 30mb download on three


Have you read through the comment's on here?
Some GREAT info in this thread, but can't help but miss input from @seaniboy (good guy & expert on mobile-home-BB) - where are you?

There is some good info in a thread from last BF when 3 re-offered unlimited data for the first time in a long time!

If anyone goes down the router plus USB modem route, have a look at ROOter - can turn a router than has USB for printer sharing/NAS purposes only into a 3G/4G modem sharing one! Use at your own risk!

I am loathed to buy this because:

a) it probably won't improve on my mr340+e8278 set up (have spent a fair bit of time/money on various replacements, generally 2nd hand, but still go back to it).

b) the next day sods law says someone will offer a 5G version/USB modem!
PaulandPam15/11/2019 08:09

Sounds like it's only connected to 3G, open a browser and type in …Sounds like it's only connected to 3G, open a browser and type in 192.168.8.1 to make sure it's running on 4G.Also if you use a telephone plugged into the router to make a call the router drops to 3G during the call.


I actually found that setting after I posted, it was on auto which was showing as 4g in the top status. Changed to 3G then the download went up to 13 but upload was slower.

No phone it was straight out the box.
jnm2115/11/2019 08:40

but can't help but miss input from @seaniboy (good guy & expert on …but can't help but miss input from @seaniboy (good guy & expert on mobile-home-BB) - where are you?


Seaniboy got banned from HUKD a few weeks ago, Don't know why though!
PaulandPam15/11/2019 10:53

Seaniboy got banned from HUKD a few weeks ago, Don't know why though!


He was hardly restrained! I'm not that shocked.

Personally I thought he was a bit of an over opinionated troll but he did actually do a lot of good on that Three £10 glitch thread and helped a lot of people.
scott2c15/11/2019 09:33

I actually found that setting after I posted, it was on auto which was …I actually found that setting after I posted, it was on auto which was showing as 4g in the top status. Changed to 3G then the download went up to 13 but upload was slower.No phone it was straight out the box.


One thing I notice about my B525 is that when it's first turned on it will always connect to a band 20 4G mast which is not only closer but has a higher power output. However the B525 does have some sense and even though there is a lower power output / signal strength will switch to a mast further away which is broadcasting on band 3, leaving band 20 available for carrier aggregation (CA)..

Although half of the time the switch will happen within 10 minutes or so of turning the B525 on, many times it will stay connected to band 20 and refuse to budge. This thus gives poor speeds (usually bettered by 3G).

The "bodge" i have found to force the device to check is to go in to the router and disconnect from the network on the start page. Wait 30 seconds or so and then reconnect. For whatever reason this nearly always forces the router to switch to band 3.I think the B525 doesn't want to change bands whilst it's being used for high bandwidth applications, however must only pole the network services at certain intervals, and maybe only when it starts up.
gary33315/11/2019 13:35

One thing I notice about my B525 is that when it's first turned on it will …One thing I notice about my B525 is that when it's first turned on it will always connect to a band 20 4G mast which is not only closer but has a higher power output. However the B525 does have some sense and even though there is a lower power output / signal strength will switch to a mast further away which is broadcasting on band 3, leaving band 20 available for carrier aggregation (CA)..Although half of the time the switch will happen within 10 minutes or so of turning the B525 on, many times it will stay connected to band 20 and refuse to budge. This thus gives poor speeds (usually bettered by 3G). The "bodge" i have found to force the device to check is to go in to the router and disconnect from the network on the start page. Wait 30 seconds or so and then reconnect. For whatever reason this nearly always forces the router to switch to band 3.I think the B525 doesn't want to change bands whilst it's being used for high bandwidth applications, however must only pole the network services at certain intervals, and maybe only when it starts up.


Cheers! That's definitely done something and the speeds similar to my E3372 now.

How do you know what band you on? Do you have to use these other tools people mention?
scott2c15/11/2019 17:12

Cheers! That's definitely done something and the speeds similar to my …Cheers! That's definitely done something and the speeds similar to my E3372 now.How do you know what band you on? Do you have to use these other tools people mention?


I work it out from the cell ID on the settings page (system > device information) using this you can lookup your location on cellmapper.net and it will tell you what frequency band is being deployed.

Best thing to do is using the same router page (device information) and what you have learned to the location of the mast on cellmapper very slowly rotate the router and keep pressing the “refresh” button every degree you turn. Observe the RSRP value and turn until you get the highest value (-90 is better than -100). Play around with the router height as well. This can make massive differences.

To anyone trying this the best speed is not always directly pointing the router at the mast so always keep trying different angles. Obviously though you want to be on the same side of the house though). A lot of the time the reflections of the signal is what your are receiving as most don’t have line of sight to mast. 30mins faffing could increase speed by 10’s of Mb’s
Edited by: "gary333" 15th Nov 2019
gary33315/11/2019 17:25

I work it out from the cell ID on the settings page (system > device …I work it out from the cell ID on the settings page (system > device information) using this you can lookup your location on cellmapper.net and it will tell you what frequency band is being deployed.Best thing to do is using the same router page (device information) and what you have learned to the location of the mast on cellmapper very slowly rotate the router and keep pressing the “refresh” button every degree you turn. Observe the RSRP value and turn until you get the highest value (-90 is better than -100). Play around with the router height as well. This can make massive differences. To anyone trying this the best speed is not always directly pointing the router at the mast so always keep trying different angles. Obviously though you want to be on the same side of the house though). A lot of the time the reflections of the signal is what your are receiving as most don’t have line of sight to mast. 30mins faffing could increase speed by 10’s of Mb’s


Hmm, on the map I can see two masts nearby (orange triangles?). I can't see any details about them though, such as freq. Any ideas?
GapsOfTheGod15/11/2019 17:59

Hmm, on the map I can see two masts nearby (orange triangles?). I can't …Hmm, on the map I can see two masts nearby (orange triangles?). I can't see any details about them though, such as freq. Any ideas?



Cellmapper isn't a particulary logical interface however try this:

1) Select the provider details this should be:
Select provider: 3 UK - 23420
Select band: 4G - LTE
Band: All Bands

2) Select location search and enter your location

3) Go to top of the page and press "Details" (It's between "General" and "Close")

4) Look over map and select any of the green dots that appear. If there are non, you might need to zoom out

5) On left handside you will see the bands the cell site has, then scroll down to cell 0, cell 1 data. You will see the "cell identifier" this will correspond with the Hauwei B525 cell id field if you're on the right mast. Each cell site (mast) has multiple cells. On most cells you will see the anitipated range being shown on the map and also the LTE band in use and the frequency, bandwidth etc.

Hope this helps.
Edited by: "gary333" 15th Nov 2019
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