New Huawei Mate 20 Pro Black 6.39" 128GB 4G Unlocked & SIM Free Smartphone £399 @ Laptops Direct
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New Huawei Mate 20 Pro Black 6.39" 128GB 4G Unlocked & SIM Free Smartphone £399 @ Laptops Direct

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Posted 9th Oct
Not bad for sim free, yeah it was/is cheaper on o2 refresh, but that's a bit of a different deal all together, vote as you will

3306577.jpgFree power bank as well

  • Key Features:
  • Unlocked & SIM Free
  • 4G Ready for ultra fast network speeds
  • Sensational TRIPLE 40 + 20 + 8 Megapixel rear cameras & 24 Megapixel selfie camera
  • 6.39” 2K+ OLED Display
  • Super fast Kirin 980 Octa Core Processor + 6GB of RAM
  • Android 9.0 Pie OS
  • 128GB Storage + 256GB micro SD card slot
  • World’s first wireless reverse charge - use your device to charge others!
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Unless you're willing to do this o2 refresh thing (which many won't like the hassle of) or buy second hand, not sure you can get a better new phone for the price.
Not worth £399. I've got one on the refresh plan. Heat for the added power bank.
I don’t think this is worth £399 anymore, even more so with Black Friday next month.
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Not worth £399. I've got one on the refresh plan. Heat for the added power bank.
I don’t think this is worth £399 anymore, even more so with Black Friday next month.
You seem to have a lot of mates on here switchy 😁
Sold my refresh Mate 20 Pro, didn't like curved screen or onscreen fingerprint scanner, went back to P20 Pro (and OnePlus, always OnePlus)
MrSwitch, massive respect for your posts. But voted cold, you can get this for £252 on 02 refresh, by paying the device off in full and paying for a month rolling contact at 21 pounds and cancelling within 14 days, providing your credit history is okay.

Worst case you have to pay for a month, total cost £273, saving £126. You can get further discount in-store as well if you ask.
Edited by: "MrCharlie" 9th Oct
Unless you're willing to do this o2 refresh thing (which many won't like the hassle of) or buy second hand, not sure you can get a better new phone for the price.
Had to vote hot even though I agree with @judavid89 , reality is contemporaries like iPhone XR are priced about £200 higher than this, so this still good buy, one of best phones of 2018 (which XR can't claim to be)
Edited by: "xavierluther" 9th Oct
It's a bit bizarre that it's harder to get super-crazy-deal prices for the 20X (though I'm biased, as that's the phone I have and love).

Did feel a bit ripped off when boyf picked up his Mate 20 Pro "As New" for £152 though (I paid £371.99 from Amazon, which was great at the time)
xavierluther09/10/2019 11:36

Had to vote hot even though I agree with @judavid89 , reality is …Had to vote hot even though I agree with @judavid89 , reality is contemporaries like iPhone XR are priced about £200 higher than this, so this still good buy, one of best phones of 2018 (which XR can't claim to be)


This isn’t necessarily a better phone though. It depends on the user. I thought the Mate 20 Pro was a bit rubbish TBH, and of course it doesn’t run iOS anyway. I don’t know why people always mention iPhones in these sort of situations - it’s a completely different OS. Why not compare with the price of, say, the S10 Plus (which is about £400 more than this and runs the same OS).
louiselouise09/10/2019 11:50

It's a bit bizarre that it's harder to get super-crazy-deal prices for the …It's a bit bizarre that it's harder to get super-crazy-deal prices for the 20X (though I'm biased, as that's the phone I have and love).Did feel a bit ripped off when boyf picked up his Mate 20 Pro "As New" for £152 though (I paid £371.99 from Amazon, which was great at the time)


If it’s any consolation I owned a Mate 20 Pro (now have a P30 Pro) and I didn’t like it at all. I would have picked up a Mate 20 X for £371.99 quite happily and I still think it’s a far nicer looking device than the Mate 20 Pro - normal, more secure, reliable and faster fingerprint scanner on the back, nice big screen without silly curves, FAR better speakers. I would be happy if I were you. Bear in mind also that the Mate 20 x was a bit more expensive from the outset, and has more niche appeal so is likely holding its value better under the cloud of the Huawei/Google issues.

Incidentally I picked up a Mate 20 X phone and case bundle for a bargain price on Amazon Warehouse and all they sent was the case
Edited by: "TechnoDonkey" 9th Oct
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 12:46

This isn’t necessarily a better phone though. It depends on the user. I t …This isn’t necessarily a better phone though. It depends on the user. I thought the Mate 20 Pro was a bit rubbish TBH, and of course it doesn’t run iOS anyway. I don’t know why people always mention iPhones in these sort of situations - it’s a completely different OS. Why not compare with the price of, say, the S10 Plus (which is about £400 more than this and runs the same OS).


S10+ can be found for similar price to iPhone XR, and it's a 2019 phone; I was comparing two late-2018 phones.

Yes, we can compare smartphones with smartphones, irrespective of OS. It's not apples and pears. Btw, iPhone XS can surely claim to be one of best phones of 2018, just not XR.
great phone, cant complain
xavierluther09/10/2019 12:56

S10+ can be found for similar price to iPhone XR, and it's a 2019 phone; I …S10+ can be found for similar price to iPhone XR, and it's a 2019 phone; I was comparing two late-2018 phones. Yes, we can compare smartphones with smartphones, irrespective of OS. It's not apples and pears. Btw, iPhone XS can surely claim to be one of best phones of 2018, just not XR.


I’m not really bothered about anything ‘claiming to be the best phone’. I don’t think the XR ever had aspirations of being seen as that; although I did get one on the £17 Affordable Mobiles deal a while back and I think there are certain things about it that I could cite as being better than the Mate 20 Pro (and even the P30 Pro I currently use). My own personal opinion of course:

Loudspeaker quality
Speed and fluidity
Overall quality of apps within its respective store
Ease-of-use (in terms of not constantly catching UI elements along the dopey curved edge)
Face unlock (FAR faster and more reliable than the Mate)
Photo quality with normal snapshots
Gesture navigation

My point, though, was more that with such a rich selection of expensive phones running the same OS as the Mate 20 Pro, it seems pointless to highlight an iPhone for price/value comparisons, as they have entirely different ecosystems with varying advantages and disadvantages- for the most part all Androids do the same things in very similar ways.
Edited by: "TechnoDonkey" 9th Oct
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 13:00

I’m not really bothered about anything ‘claiming to be the best phone’. I d …I’m not really bothered about anything ‘claiming to be the best phone’. I don’t think the XR ever had aspirations of being seen as that; although I did get one on the £17 Affordable Mobiles deal a while back and I think there are certain things about it that I could cite as being better than the Mate 20 Pro (and even the P30 Pro I currently use). My own personal opinion of course:Loudspeaker qualitySpeed and fluidity Overall quality of apps within its respective storeEase-of-use (in terms of not constantly catching UI elements along the dopey curved edge)Face unlock (FAR faster and more reliable than the Mate)Photo quality with normal snapshotsGesture navigation My point, though, was more that with such a rich selection of expensive phones running the same OS as the Mate 20 Pro, it seems pointless to highlight an iPhone for price/value comparisons, as they have entirely different ecosystems with varying advantages and disadvantages- for the most part all Androids do the same things in very similar ways.


Fair enough, my point was about value for money, and a direct comparison of two contemporaries (as tech value depends on time in the market).

Speaking about value in general and this deal in particular, I agreed that it can be viewed as a bit expensive, considering it's a 2018 phone and Black Friday approaching; but by comparing with an exact contemporary, it doesn't look too bad a deal (I could've picked Pixel 3xl, or Note 9, XR came to mind probably because it's more overpriced than those, being probably a worse phone, therefore making the comparison more relevant, value for money-wise)
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 12:49

If it’s any consolation I owned a Mate 20 Pro (now have a P30 Pro) and I d …If it’s any consolation I owned a Mate 20 Pro (now have a P30 Pro) and I didn’t like it at all. I would have picked up a Mate 20 X for £371.99 quite happily and I still think it’s a far nicer looking device than the Mate 20 Pro - normal, more secure, reliable and faster fingerprint scanner on the back, nice big screen without silly curves, FAR better speakers. I would be happy if I were you. Bear in mind also that the Mate 20 x was a bit more expensive from the outset, and has more niche appeal so is likely holding its value better under the cloud of the Huawei/Google issues. Incidentally I picked up a Mate 20 X phone and case bundle for a bargain price on Amazon Warehouse and all they sent was the case


I'm a bit of an Amazon Warehouse veteran. I'm always extra nervous when it's an electronics order.

Hope they refunded you!! I just had an Amazon delivery (last night) sent to a neighbour by mistake, who, er, it seems has pocketed it for themselves. Nobody has knocked my door yet!
xavierluther09/10/2019 13:19

Fair enough, my point was about value for money, and a direct comparison …Fair enough, my point was about value for money, and a direct comparison of two contemporaries (as tech value depends on time in the market).Speaking about value in general and this deal in particular, I agreed that it can be viewed as a bit expensive, considering it's a 2018 phone and Black Friday approaching; but by comparing with an exact contemporary, it doesn't look too bad a deal (I could've picked Pixel 3xl, or Note 9, XR came to mind probably because it's more overpriced than those, being probably a worse phone, therefore making the comparison more relevant, value for money-wise)


Value for money is a very difficult thing to gauge. For one, ‘value’ is massively subjective because everyone earns a different amount to everyone else, everyone has different skill sets and everyone has different approaches to effort VS convenience. If I can make an unrelated point on value:

Person A is good with their hands, practical and likes DIY. They want the whole house painting and can do it for £300, which they consider excellent value for money. Person B has a busy life and - whilst decent at DIY earns a good wage and thinks that paying a painter and decorator £1500 to do the same job is excellent value for money as it saves them hassle. Person A would probably think person B had been ripped off.

Obviously these are completely different scenarios, but my point is that value can be looked at differently depending on the person.

The Mate 20 Pro is indeed cheaper than many contemporaries at this price, but its resale value is currently abysmal. Personally I think value for money should also factor in how easy something is to sell, and how much residual value it will hold. I can tell you right now that my P30 Pro would cost £799 to buy in Carphone Warehouse and I couldn’t even sell it back to them as they won’t accept them for recycling. Other recyclers are paying a pittance for Huawei products. Meanwhile if I had paid £899 for an S10+ at launch I could easily get £450 for it from a recycler - around £300 more than most trustworthy sites will offer over the P30 Pro’s launch price.

Anyway, I think value has many sides to it
Edited by: "TechnoDonkey" 9th Oct
louiselouise09/10/2019 13:21

I'm a bit of an Amazon Warehouse veteran. I'm always extra nervous when …I'm a bit of an Amazon Warehouse veteran. I'm always extra nervous when it's an electronics order.Hope they refunded you!! I just had an Amazon delivery (last night) sent to a neighbour by mistake, who, er, it seems has pocketed it for themselves. Nobody has knocked my door yet!


They refunded me and, In fact, I still have the case and pen that they told me to keep. Might as well chuck them in the bin I think.
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 13:31

They refunded me and, In fact, I still have the case and pen that they …They refunded me and, In fact, I still have the case and pen that they told me to keep. Might as well chuck them in the bin I think.



You should Gumtree them, someone out there may have lost their pen and case - and not sure all sellers supply those with the 20X.
louiselouise09/10/2019 13:41

You should Gumtree them, someone out there may have lost their pen and …You should Gumtree them, someone out there may have lost their pen and case - and not sure all sellers supply those with the 20X.


I never use Gumtree or eBay TBH, as I’ve had bad experiences. I only sell my phones to friends and family or via Cex and recyclers too.
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 13:43

I never use Gumtree or eBay TBH, as I’ve had bad experiences. I only sell m …I never use Gumtree or eBay TBH, as I’ve had bad experiences. I only sell my phones to friends and family or via Cex and recyclers too.



I get boyf to answer the door when it's a Gumtree sale - I would share some of my experiences but that's going on a wild tangent (they're not all bad) - I get what you mean!
Awesome deal. Call me pickety but never liked all the O2 bothery. This is a pukka.
It's a good price for a decent phone my gf had hers a year now and she's dropped it loads and it hasn't broken or cracked she loves hers, I got the same phone at the same time, through a crazy black Friday vodaphone deal, I sold mine for just under 500 as I didn't like the curved screen and finger sensor but I still think it's a great phone, I have the mate 20 X now the one I always wanted to start with but wasn't available at the time, it has the best of the mate 20 pro but improves with flat larger screen, excellent duel speakers and a rear sensor.Ive recently got the one plus 7 for my son which I think is a better choice than the mate 20 pro and cheaper, but the camera on the mate 20 pro is better, but the oneplus 7 is better on all the other stuff and cheaper toAs far as the mate 20 X goes nothing compares, it's in a league of its own for media consumption, I'd rate it higher than the note 10plus.
Not worth £399 at all, sorry.
Terrible deal given that this was available for £152 "like new" from o2 just 2 weeks ago.
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 12:49

If it’s any consolation I owned a Mate 20 Pro (now have a P30 Pro) and I d …If it’s any consolation I owned a Mate 20 Pro (now have a P30 Pro) and I didn’t like it at all. I would have picked up a Mate 20 X for £371.99 quite happily and I still think it’s a far nicer looking device than the Mate 20 Pro - normal, more secure, reliable and faster fingerprint scanner on the back, nice big screen without silly curves, FAR better speakers. I would be happy if I were you. Bear in mind also that the Mate 20 x was a bit more expensive from the outset, and has more niche appeal so is likely holding its value better under the cloud of the Huawei/Google issues. Incidentally I picked up a Mate 20 X phone and case bundle for a bargain price on Amazon Warehouse and all they sent was the case



What makes a rear fingerprint sensor more secure?
EndemicAlarm09/10/2019 14:54

What makes a rear fingerprint sensor more secure?


Traditional capacitive scanners are more secure than under-screen scanners of this type (which basically take a photo of your finger). The Samsung under-screen scanners are ultrasonic, so are almost as secure as an ‘old skool’ scanner.

Basically the technology these use, whilst effectively having the same end result, have an entirely different methodology to achieving that end result.
Edited by: "TechnoDonkey" 9th Oct
HellriderUKDeals6909/10/2019 14:19

Not worth £399 at all, sorry.


You do know this was released at £899 & was touted as the best phone.
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 15:04

Traditional capacitive scanners are more secure than under-screen scanners …Traditional capacitive scanners are more secure than under-screen scanners of this type (which basically take a photo of your finger). The Samsung under-screen scanners are ultrasonic, so are almost as secure as an ‘old skool’ scanner.Basically the technology these use, whilst effectively having the same end result, have an entirely different methodology to achieving that end result.



Do you have a reference? I can't find anything that puts one particularly above the other in terms of resistance to forgery.
EndemicAlarm09/10/2019 15:12

Do you have a reference? I can't find anything that puts one particularly …Do you have a reference? I can't find anything that puts one particularly above the other in terms of resistance to forgery.


No, I just made it up to bolster my argument.

I’m kidding. I haven’t cached all the articles just in case anyone asks this, but here’s one example:

xda-developers.com/some-in-screen-fingerprint-sensors-are-easily-fooled/
Edited by: "TechnoDonkey" 9th Oct
adamderak09/10/2019 15:09

You do know this was released at £899 & was touted as the best phone.


I do and I have the phone (got it on the recent O2 refresh offer). It's not worth the £399 price tbh.
HellriderUKDeals6909/10/2019 15:19

I do and I have the phone (got it on the recent O2 refresh offer). It's …I do and I have the phone (got it on the recent O2 refresh offer). It's not worth the £399 price tbh.


I don't seem that strictly a deal with all the faffing you have to do.
Premium phones cost in in excess of £1000.
The mate 20 pro mixes with the best of them , so it sure how you think it's not good value at this price.
How is this phone not worth £399? What phone can you get that's better than this for £399 actually even £499? I have it and I think it's a great phone! One of the best displays and camera currently on any smart phone? Of course £399 is a lot of money but relatively speaking what else can you get?
Edited by: "sukhi_singh_1" 9th Oct
sukhi_singh_109/10/2019 15:24

How is this phone not worth £399? What phone can you get that's better …How is this phone not worth £399? What phone can you get that's better than this for £399 actually even £499? I have it and I think it's a great phone! One of the best displays and camera currently on any smart phone? Of course £399 is a lot of money but relatively speaking what else can you get?


Mi 9T Pro for about 100 quid less

This is still a cracking price for the Mate 20 Pro though, great phone.
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zedx1909/10/2019 15:39

Mi 9T Pro for about 100 quid lessThis is still a cracking price for the …Mi 9T Pro for about 100 quid lessThis is still a cracking price for the Mate 20 Pro though, great phone.


Now that is a good phone but is it actually better than the mate 20 Pro? I'm sure the Mate 20 Pro has a better display, bigger battery. Of course the Mi has the better processor and a higher megapixel camera but is it overall better? I guess it depends whats more important to you in a phone.
sukhi_singh_109/10/2019 15:50

Now that is a good phone but is it actually better than the mate 20 Pro? …Now that is a good phone but is it actually better than the mate 20 Pro? I'm sure the Mate 20 Pro has a better display, bigger battery. Of course the Mi has the better processor and a higher megapixel camera but is it overall better? I guess it depends whats more important to you in a phone.


Dunno, I've got a Mi 9T Pro on order, it's actually being delivered tomorrow. I currently have a Mate 10 Pro which I've had from launch. Considering the Mate 20 but price difference killed it.
MrCharlie09/10/2019 11:09

MrSwitch, massive respect for your posts. But voted cold, you can get this …MrSwitch, massive respect for your posts. But voted cold, you can get this for £252 on 02 refresh, by paying the device off in full and paying for a month rolling contact at 21 pounds and cancelling within 14 days, providing your credit history is okay.Worst case you have to pay for a month, total cost £273, saving £126. You can get further discount in-store as well if you ask.


Worst case - credit record hard check ruins your life!
sukhi_singh_109/10/2019 15:24

How is this phone not worth £399? What phone can you get that's better …How is this phone not worth £399? What phone can you get that's better than this for £399 actually even £499? I have it and I think it's a great phone! One of the best displays and camera currently on any smart phone? Of course £399 is a lot of money but relatively speaking what else can you get?


because everyone did the O2 refresh deals and got it for 150 odd quid, without realising they now have a hard credit check on their file and their credit record is worse for it! TBH those O2 deals are fraught with issues, i dont know anyone that has gotten one without getting into issues trying to cancel the contract attached - no matter what peeps on here, avoid the O2 refresh deals and buy this, its a great phone for £399
TechnoDonkey09/10/2019 12:49

If it’s any consolation I owned a Mate 20 Pro (now have a P30 Pro) and I d …If it’s any consolation I owned a Mate 20 Pro (now have a P30 Pro) and I didn’t like it at all. I would have picked up a Mate 20 X for £371.99 quite happily and I still think it’s a far nicer looking device than the Mate 20 Pro - normal, more secure, reliable and faster fingerprint scanner on the back, nice big screen without silly curves, FAR better speakers. I would be happy if I were you. Bear in mind also that the Mate 20 x was a bit more expensive from the outset, and has more niche appeal so is likely holding its value better under the cloud of the Huawei/Google issues. Incidentally I picked up a Mate 20 X phone and case bundle for a bargain price on Amazon Warehouse and all they sent was the case


Actually it's funny nobody talks about this: Mate 20 Pro was the smallest member of Mate 20 family, it kind of compares with Pixel 3, not 3XL, or S10/10e, not S10+; iPhone XS not XR, P30 not P30 Pro.

Maybe this is unimportant for most, I find it relevant. A smaller form factor has its advantages, just like a bigger one has its own. Mate 20 X's nemesis was obviously Note 9, pen and all; M20P went last year head to head against...S9, Pixel 3; It was kind of an enhanced P20.
philjstephenson09/10/2019 16:37

Worst case - credit record hard check ruins your life!



Woah, there's a lot of misinformation about this. You tried to scaremonger on the other thread(s).

Here and here may offer some insight that is actually helpful and informative. I've already linked to my conclusions and what I did.

Edit: Apparently O2 don't only judge you on your credit score, just read this here
Edited by: "louiselouise" 9th Oct
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