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The HUAWEI MateBook D (MateBook D for short) is a 14 Inch laptop that incorporates a new Generation AMD Ryzen 5 2500U mobile processor and supports high-speed Wi-Fi Internet.

The MateBook D has a slim metallic body, making it both stylish and easy to carry.

The MateBook D has an IPS display with a 1920 x 1080 pixel LCD screen, 45% NTSC colour gamut, and brightness of 250 nits.

The screen-to-body ratio is 81%, and the viewing angle can reach an impressive 178 degrees.

It is also equipped with a 1 MP front camera.

The MateBook D is a smart work assistant, supporting Office 365 Personal (1 month trial) and 4K video playback.

MateBook D adopts Radeon Vega8 Graphics and 4K display output for enhanced image processing.
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3 and EE use Huawei in their existing mobile network. And they have done for years.
BT uses Huawei in their existing telephone network. And they have done for years.

Only now is it suddenly an issue since Mr Trump wants to cheese off China.
yozzman123416/05/2019 18:22

What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for …What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for all there products ?


Half the BT cabinets and cell phone towers in the UK already have Huawei kit in them. Banning Huawei would cripple the UKs mobile and broadband networks, so it's not going to a happen.

Here's how to work out if you're connected to a Huawei cabinet... kitz.co.uk/ads…htm
yozzman123416/05/2019 18:22

What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for …What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for all there products ?


Their phones aren't going to get banned. The whole debate is regarding network infrastructure not there commercial products. (And even that probably won't get banned)
Edited by: "hev123" 16th May
sadbuttruee16/05/2019 21:33

stone cold for me, you either believe in some semblance of privacy and …stone cold for me, you either believe in some semblance of privacy and western liberal values or you don't


What? like Facebook and Google?
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What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for all there products ?
yozzman123416/05/2019 18:22

What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for …What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for all there products ?


Their phones aren't going to get banned. The whole debate is regarding network infrastructure not there commercial products. (And even that probably won't get banned)
Edited by: "hev123" 16th May
This is coming up with the 5 monthly payments option for me, been a while since i've seen that on anything that isnt amazon branded.
Huawei getting banned?
yozzman123416/05/2019 18:22

What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for …What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for all there products ?


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Bought this lapyop for my partner last week.

Beautifully made with a very nice screen.

Not overloaded with interface ports but this has a HDMI port, USB C and along with USB 2 USB 3 ports. I made a USB C portable SSD drive and it was very quick, so much so I had to double check the RAW files I copied to the laptop were there- they were.
A dedicated Huawei extra port/slot USB C unit available fo around £70
There is no Card Reader fitted but plenty of interface units with CF/SD/TF slots are available.

No ethernet port which seems a bit short sighted.

A nice unit, 8Gb/256Gb RAM/SSD.

Not stupidly priced but same general spec can be found cheaper but the screen is superb.

SWMBO loves it!
yozzman123416/05/2019 18:22

What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for …What happens when Huawei phones are banned from the UK ? Does that go for all there products ?


Half the BT cabinets and cell phone towers in the UK already have Huawei kit in them. Banning Huawei would cripple the UKs mobile and broadband networks, so it's not going to a happen.

Here's how to work out if you're connected to a Huawei cabinet... kitz.co.uk/ads…htm
3 and EE use Huawei in their existing mobile network. And they have done for years.
BT uses Huawei in their existing telephone network. And they have done for years.

Only now is it suddenly an issue since Mr Trump wants to cheese off China.
Nice machine but I'm current in the process of sending mine back. Bought to run Cubase on, but it just crashes in the software every time. Totally stable on my old Intel machine. Huawei told me it must be a Microsoft problem as 'their hardware in the laptop works'. Microsoft you can't actually speak to anyone unless you have a paid service plan with them and instead you're directed to their help pages on the website.

Disappointing as its a tidy little machine, but I can't get it to work with the software I use. I'm guessing there's a conflict somewhere but I can't find it and support is not there!
45% NTSC is a pretty terribly colour gamut range :/
I paid Argos £600 for one of these a few weeks ago. Loving it. Takes about 20 seconds to boot from Sleep mode. Backlit keyboard. Only thing I don't like is the charge lead plugs in on the left.
Berwhale16/05/2019 19:03

Half the BT cabinets and cell phone towers in the UK already have Huawei …Half the BT cabinets and cell phone towers in the UK already have Huawei kit in them. Banning Huawei would cripple the UKs mobile and broadband networks, so it's not going to a happen.Here's how to work out if you're connected to a Huawei cabinet... https://kitz.co.uk/adsl/cabinet-lookup.htm


While its true that FTTC gear like the MA5616 exists in the green cabs on street corners, its pretty old tech, BT has previously stated that Huawei kit is not used in its core network, and has begun the process of removing their kit from its 4g network[2]


plebbygiraffe16/05/2019 19:03

3 and EE use Huawei in their existing mobile network. And they have done …3 and EE use Huawei in their existing mobile network. And they have done for years.BT uses Huawei in their existing telephone network. And they have done for years.Only now is it suddenly an issue since Mr Trump wants to cheese off China.



There was no problem with Huawei equipment until China's National Intelligence Law passed in 2017 that says organisations must "support, co-operate with and collaborate in national intelligence work". That's potentially problematic.



[1] ebay.com/itm…957
[2]eandt.theiet.org/con…ge/
Does this come with Spyware pre installed?
Edited by: "ssc1" 16th May
swfarrington16/05/2019 19:10

Nice machine but I'm current in the process of sending mine back. Bought …Nice machine but I'm current in the process of sending mine back. Bought to run Cubase on, but it just crashes in the software every time. Totally stable on my old Intel machine. Huawei told me it must be a Microsoft problem as 'their hardware in the laptop works'. Microsoft you can't actually speak to anyone unless you have a paid service plan with them and instead you're directed to their help pages on the website.Disappointing as its a tidy little machine, but I can't get it to work with the software I use. I'm guessing there's a conflict somewhere but I can't find it and support is not there!


My best guess is an unsupported mode on an audio interface or something, which'd be fixable with a cheap external one. x86 is x86 so it is extremely unlikely to be a core incompatibility.
plebbygiraffe16/05/2019 19:03

3 and EE use Huawei in their existing mobile network. And they have done …3 and EE use Huawei in their existing mobile network. And they have done for years.BT uses Huawei in their existing telephone network. And they have done for years.Only now is it suddenly an issue since Mr Trump wants to cheese off China.



Actually, Trump just jumped on an existing bandwagon. There were security concerns way before Trump even knew about it.

“significant” security problems were found in their hardware leaving them wide open to simple attacks, pathetic for a company who have been in this business for as long as they have.

Personally, i wouldn't buy anything from them. No smoke without fire.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 16th May
harveyfrogboy16/05/2019 19:18

I paid Argos £600 for one of these a few weeks ago. Loving it. Takes …I paid Argos £600 for one of these a few weeks ago. Loving it. Takes about 20 seconds to boot from Sleep mode. Backlit keyboard. Only thing I don't like is the charge lead plugs in on the left.


Will take less time to boot if you do a fresh install of windows.
I've spoken about this awesome laptop on other threads.. and I agree, it's a very nice laptop, which to my surprise runs MW2 at over 80fps... The Vega graphics are very good, much better than any intel chip.
Jace_Phoenix16/05/2019 20:11

“significant” security problems were found in their hardware leaving them w …“significant” security problems were found in their hardware leaving them wide open to simple attacks, pathetic for a company who have been in this business for as long as they have.


what "significant" problems have been found?

The whole huawei affair, is undoubtedly political, but one thing that has been notable, to me at least, is that there has been very little actual evidence of backdoors, or exploits.

Which are you referring to?
Josh.Rogan16/05/2019 20:49

what "significant" problems have been found?The whole huawei affair, is …what "significant" problems have been found?The whole huawei affair, is undoubtedly political, but one thing that has been notable, to me at least, is that there has been very little actual evidence of backdoors, or exploits.Which are you referring to?



It's being used poliitcally now, by Trump and US 100% for sure... but there are real security issues. Huawei have even admitted so... and they're likely being addressed. i think they were using an old version of vxworks at one point... you have to wonder why that wasn't updated sooner? Most of the exploits won't be revealed to the public of course.. for obvious reasons, but do you think countries like australia etc just start banning on a whim? or because Trump said so?
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 16th May
Jace_Phoenix16/05/2019 21:08

It's being used poliitcally now, by Trump and US 100% for sure... but …It's being used poliitcally now, by Trump and US 100% for sure... but there are real security issues. Huawei have even admitted so... and they're likely being addressed. i think they were using an old version of vxworks at one point... Most of the exploits won't be revealed to the public of course.. for obvious reasons, but do you think countries like australia etc just start banning on a whim? or because Trump said so?


That (American made) software is in a lot of infrastructure hw, from a lot of manufacturers and that that has been the only example people have been able to use against Huawei is in itself telling.

i think 2 things are irrefutably true;

* the huawei furore is absolutely political, both in the US / Aus / NZ reaction (and canadian arrest) and in Britain trying to save face with China while it goes begging for a trade deal.

* Britain *should* be a lot more careful, China has previous[1] with britain

So i think neither, 'its all 'political' and should be ignored out of hand - it should be political, these are governments making decisions based on national interests.

nor do i believe there is much inherently insecure about Huawei hardware certainly based on hard evidence, these fears stem from a law from last year, but really is this any different from the US's own 'Cloud Act'?

[1] thetimes.co.uk/art…kwj
stone cold for me, you either believe in some semblance of privacy and western liberal values or you don't
sadbuttruee16/05/2019 21:33

stone cold for me, you either believe in some semblance of privacy and …stone cold for me, you either believe in some semblance of privacy and western liberal values or you don't


What? like Facebook and Google?
Josh.Rogan16/05/2019 21:31

That (American made) software is in a lot of infrastructure hw, from a lot …That (American made) software is in a lot of infrastructure hw, from a lot of manufacturers and that that has been the only example people have been able to use against Huawei is in itself telling.


I see what you're saying here, but as was pointed out Huawei equipment is widely used globally so they cannot exactly reveal specific flaws or areas for attack as that would be irresponsible and would be abused by any wannabe hacker.

You could be right, and it has all been drummed up for a political agenda, but either way why take the risk?
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 16th May
Josh.Rogan16/05/2019 20:49

what "significant" problems have been found?The whole huawei affair, is …what "significant" problems have been found?The whole huawei affair, is undoubtedly political, but one thing that has been notable, to me at least, is that there has been very little actual evidence of backdoors, or exploits.Which are you referring to?


Probably the fake news with Vodafone reported by Bloomberg that Vodafone said was false. Hot off the heals of the Supermicro fake news, Bloomberg are making a name for themselves not to be trusted on these topics.
CampGareth16/05/2019 19:47

My best guess is an unsupported mode on an audio interface or something, …My best guess is an unsupported mode on an audio interface or something, which'd be fixable with a cheap external one. x86 is x86 so it is extremely unlikely to be a core incompatibility.


I’ve had the same behaviour with an external Focusrite AI on its proprietary driver as well as using the internal board which I tried today to see if it was the Focusrite upsetting things. Just very frustrating.
Josh.Rogan16/05/2019 19:45

While its true that FTTC gear like the MA5616 exists in the green cabs on …While its true that FTTC gear like the MA5616 exists in the green cabs on street corners, its pretty old tech, BT has previously stated that Huawei kit is not used in its core network, and has begun the process of removing their kit from its 4g network[2]There was no problem with Huawei equipment until China's National Intelligence Law passed in 2017 that says organisations must "support, co-operate with and collaborate in national intelligence work". That's potentially problematic.[1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Huawei-SmartAX-MA5616-with-32-128-ports-VDSL2-BCM-chip-DSLAM-W-cables-/262301910957[2]https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2018/12/bt-removes-huawei-made-4g-equipment-as-concerns-remain-over-espionage/


It's use in the core network and it's age is irrelevant from cost and impact perspective. The cost to replace the equipment *where it is deployed* is prohibitive.
Jace_Phoenix16/05/2019 20:11

Actually, Trump just jumped on an existing bandwagon. There were security …Actually, Trump just jumped on an existing bandwagon. There were security concerns way before Trump even knew about it.“significant” security problems were found in their hardware leaving them wide open to simple attacks, pathetic for a company who have been in this business for as long as they have.Personally, i wouldn't buy anything from them. No smoke without fire.


Yes, Huawei's security is terrible, not like those great America companies with impeccable records...

wired.com/sto…or/
wired.com/sto…gn/
theverge.com/201…ion
ManniBoard16/05/2019 18:39

Bought this lapyop for my partner last week.Beautifully made with a very …Bought this lapyop for my partner last week.Beautifully made with a very nice screen.Not overloaded with interface ports but this has a HDMI port, USB C and along with USB 2 USB 3 ports. I made a USB C portable SSD drive and it was very quick, so much so I had to double check the RAW files I copied to the laptop were there- they were.A dedicated Huawei extra port/slot USB C unit available fo around £70There is no Card Reader fitted but plenty of interface units with CF/SD/TF slots are available.No ethernet port which seems a bit short sighted.A nice unit, 8Gb/256Gb RAM/SSD.Not stupidly priced but same general spec can be found cheaper but the screen is superb.SWMBO loves it!


Agree - short on Connectivity.... I use Powerline so now have to use Ethernet <> USB adaptor.
I also bought (Amazon £2.59) an "Official" Huawei USB > USBc cable & now power mine directly from the USB port on my Surge Protected Extension. Leave the Power Plug & Cable in my bag.
Got this H14D on the £499 AO.com deal last week. Paid zero £s for Std Delivery but AO delivered it next day anyway.
Love the laptop
Will try your "USB C portable SSD" trick.
Jace_Phoenix16/05/2019 21:51

I see what you're saying here, but as was pointed out Huawei equipment is …I see what you're saying here, but as was pointed out Huawei equipment is widely used globally so they cannot exactly reveal specific flaws or areas for attack as that would be irresponsible and would be abused by any wannabe hacker.You could be right, and it has all been drummed up for a political agenda, but either way why take the risk?


Why do you think there is there anymore risk trusting Huawei over Dell, HP or any other OEM? The fact is, that unless you happen to be in the chip fabrication business and have high visibility of the supply chain, you have absolutely no idea what is inside your PC and who put it there - the same applies to your smartphone, broadband router, TV and toaster.

Personally, I de-lid all my CPUs and subject them to forensic analysis with a scanning tunnelling microscope - it's the only way to be sure.
Josh.Rogan16/05/2019 19:45

While its true that FTTC gear like the MA5616 exists in the green cabs on …While its true that FTTC gear like the MA5616 exists in the green cabs on street corners, its pretty old tech, BT has previously stated that Huawei kit is not used in its core network, and has begun the process of removing their kit from its 4g network[2]There was no problem with Huawei equipment until China's National Intelligence Law passed in 2017 that says organisations must "support, co-operate with and collaborate in national intelligence work". That's potentially problematic.[1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Huawei-SmartAX-MA5616-with-32-128-ports-VDSL2-BCM-chip-DSLAM-W-cables-/262301910957[2]https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2018/12/bt-removes-huawei-made-4g-equipment-as-concerns-remain-over-espionage/


as opposed to uk Australia usa laws saying same thing in the west?

western countries have been proven to be spying on their citizens AND using it to manipulate them from Facebook Cambridge analytica trump and nsa back doors built into Microsoft apple google IBM etc and outright hacking of global Internet traffic.

picking out hauwei who haven't been proven to have done anything whilst western companies and countries have, seems downright dirty hypocrisy from the west.

Every western tech company is spying on you and us.

Chinese tech companies probably not, as they too busy spying on their own people and western tech companies, and not interested in average joe in the west.
Edited by: "oceanic" 17th May
Berwhale17/05/2019 02:00

Why do you think there is there anymore risk trusting Huawei over Dell, HP …Why do you think there is there anymore risk trusting Huawei over Dell, HP or any other OEM? The fact is, that unless you happen to be in the chip fabrication business and have high visibility of the supply chain, you have absolutely no idea what is inside your PC and who put it there - the same applies to your smartphone, broadband router, TV and toaster.Personally, I de-lid all my CPUs and subject them to forensic analysis with a scanning tunnelling microscope - it's the only way to be sure.


You only need to packet sniff outgoing, no need to 'de-lid' your CPU - oh... wait, it was sarcasm!

The issue here is that Huawei have strong links with the Chinese government, No Chinese company is fully independent of its government anyway, which reserves the right to require companies to assist with intelligence gathering.

There are different levels of spying, companies spying to determine your shopping habits is mostly harmless and usually things you agree to in terms and conditions, and then there's espionage and spying to aid in global dominance. If you can't see the difference, then i worry.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 17th May
Jace_Phoenix17/05/2019 06:56

You only need to packet sniff outgoing, no need to 'de-lid' your CPU You only need to packet sniff outgoing, no need to 'de-lid' your CPU - oh... wait, it was sarcasm!The issue here is that Huawei have strong links with the Chinese government, No Chinese company is fully independent of its government anyway, which reserves the right to require companies to assist with intelligence gathering.There are different levels of spying, companies spying to determine your shopping habits is mostly harmless and usually things you agree to in terms and conditions, and then there's espionage and spying to aid in global dominance. If you can't see the difference, then i worry.


i don't think China is going to acquire global dominance by spying on hotukdeal users.

Cambridge analytica and Facebook on the other hand, did acquire significant power over brexit and US elections.

and oh, apple's siri was funded by the billions by darpa and US secret service.
Edited by: "oceanic" 17th May
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this is what a global slowdown looks like. trade wars are just a symptom. note how all economies are inextricably linked.
oceanic17/05/2019 11:17

i don't think China is going to acquire global dominance by spying on …i don't think China is going to acquire global dominance by spying on hotukdeal users.


Didn't claim that, but let's assume for the purposes of this debate that the company are in bed with the Chinese government, and all the security related accusations were real and proven, what do you think you're doing by buying Huawei products?

Are you 100% sure they're innocent? they're an unscrupulous company who were caught stealing Cisco IP back in 2003.

Anyway, will leave it at that for now, no point speculating further without evidence either way.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 17th May
Jace_Phoenix17/05/2019 15:21

Didn't claim that, but let's assume for the purposes of this debate that …Didn't claim that, but let's assume for the purposes of this debate that the company are in bed with the Chinese government, and all the security related accusations were real and proven, what do you think you're doing by buying Huawei products?Are you 100% sure they're innocent? they're an unscrupulous company who were caught stealing Cisco IP back in 2003.Anyway, will leave it at that for now, no point speculating further without evidence either way.You pays your money and you takes your choice.


you think western companies are clean? do you know their history?

if you know your history you'd know western companies have stolen as well. How to make Tea and silk and paper from china. or how about war profiteering from iraq Libya and many others. Or dealing with dictators in Africa.

you talk as if the western companies are superior saints. Western companies have far more blood on their hands.

east India company, ibm, vauxwagon, ford, general motors, Western banks etc.

you talk of the splinter in your neighbours eye, while you have a beam in your own.
oceanic17/05/2019 17:19

you think western companies are clean? do you know their history? if you …you think western companies are clean? do you know their history? if you know your history you'd know western companies have stolen as well. How to make Tea and silk and paper from china. or how about war profiteering from iraq Libya and many others. Or dealing with dictators in Africa.you talk as if the western companies are superior saints. Western companies have far more blood on their hands. east India company, ibm, vauxwagon, ford, general motors, Western banks etc.you talk of the splinter in your neighbours eye, while you have a beam in your own.



No, not claiming any of that, this is a straw man argument. I am merely highlighting that the company aren't trustworthy, and thus shouldn't be at the center of our networking infrastructure.. To that end, i also don't want ford, general motors or volkswagen or any other company you named there either.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 17th May
Jace_Phoenix17/05/2019 17:25

No, not claiming any of that, this is a straw man argument.


not really. you're arguing for people to buy from western companies over Chinese companies on the basis that they are morally superior.

when history says otherwise.

western companies have aided and abetted dictators tyrants and mass murderers far more than hauwei have done.
Edited by: "oceanic" 17th May
oceanic17/05/2019 17:29

not really. you're arguing for people to buy from western companies over …not really. you're arguing for people to buy from western companies over Chinese companies on the basis that they are morally superior. when history says otherwise.western companies have aided and abetted dictators tyrants and mass murderers far more than hauwei have done.



No, didn't say any of this at all, was talking hypothetically about Huawei only.
Edited by: "Jace_Phoenix" 17th May
Jace_Phoenix17/05/2019 17:35

No, didn't say any of this at all, was talking hypothetically about Huawei …No, didn't say any of this at all, was talking hypothetically about Huawei only.


don't see the point of singling a Chinese company out on unproven accusations. when the alternative is to buy from companies with a proven track record of doing all the crimes and worse that hauwei are being accused of without proof.

just seems totally unfair to me.

not talking about you personally singling them out. but I've noticed this concerted western media effort on the Internet, of trying to create an AstroTurf boycott of hauwei goods.
Edited by: "oceanic" 17th May
I paid more for this and really like it. It is very light with a great screen and keyboard. It has a nice feel to it.
Berwhale17/05/2019 02:00

Why do you think there is there anymore risk trusting Huawei over Dell, HP …Why do you think there is there anymore risk trusting Huawei over Dell, HP or any other OEM? The fact is, that unless you happen to be in the chip fabrication business and have high visibility of the supply chain, you have absolutely no idea what is inside your PC and who put it there - the same applies to your smartphone, broadband router, TV and toaster.Personally, I de-lid all my CPUs and subject them to forensic analysis with a scanning tunnelling microscope - it's the only way to be sure.


And there goes my morning fry up .. I never thought my toaster would be zee enemy
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