Hyundai i30 1.6 SE Blue Drive 5 Doors Diesel DCT Automatic £11,950.00 @ Rockar
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Hyundai i30 1.6 SE Blue Drive 5 Doors Diesel DCT Automatic £11,950.00 @ Rockar

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Great car for the money! HOT!
Pick our manual up from these guys next Sat. So far excellent customer service.
Is this not 1K dearer than deal listed few weeks ago?
These dual clutches are not as nice as good torque converter auto. Quite a few of engines and the non manual transmissons are sadly way behind the games at Hyundai and Kia. Not say the rest of the cars are not....

Just as everyone is switching back to quality traditional autos and advanced CVT's here is Hyundai and Kia getting there 2006 on!
Edited by: "groenleader" 24th Oct 2015
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Heard these cars had a problem
sofiasar

Heard these cars had a problem


Stupid comment, instead of hear say from your mate check out the reviews if you are unsure. Great price for a good car.
Reviews here carbuyer.co.uk/rev…ews
nnj10

Is this not 1K dearer than deal listed few weeks ago?


That was for the Manual version. I forgot how much the Auto version was at the time.
very tempting, but a £1k more than the last deal, no free servicing deal and also pre-reg, but you do get 16" alloys and auto gearbox with this over the other deal...mmmm decisions...
out of stock now
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groenleader

These dual clutches are not as nice as good torque converter auto. Quite … These dual clutches are not as nice as good torque converter auto. Quite a few of engines and the non manual transmissons are sadly way behind the games at Hyundai and Kia. Not say the rest of the cars are not....Just as everyone is switching back to quality traditional autos and advanced CVT's here is Hyundai and Kia getting there 2006 on!



DCT is a very good system - just because VW Group couldn't get them right (surprise surprise) that doesn't make them bad.
Good car, good price, very bad build quality
Sharpharp

Good car, good price, very bad build quality



Nothing wrong with the build quality of the new generation of Hyundai cars, along with KIA they are as good as most mainstream manufacturers.
Tallyho

Nothing wrong with the build quality of the new generation of Hyundai … Nothing wrong with the build quality of the new generation of Hyundai cars, along with KIA they are as good as most mainstream manufacturers.



Do you own one? Having owned a couple of these, old and new gen, build quality is poor compared to any other manufacturer. Even the Kia's are leagues above the Hyundais
My sister has this car .... really really good, been very impressed with it.
Sharpharp

Do you own one? Having owned a couple of these, old and new gen, build … Do you own one? Having owned a couple of these, old and new gen, build quality is poor compared to any other manufacturer. Even the Kia's are leagues above the Hyundais



I own one and have to say the build quality is great, the aftercare service is amazing at my local dealer, and the 5 year warranty is there just in case. Im very happy with hyundai, a lot of car for not a lot of money.
ezzer72

DCT is a very good system - just because VW Group couldn't get them right … DCT is a very good system - just because VW Group couldn't get them right (surprise surprise) that doesn't make them bad.



VW Group have got them right with their DSG auto with dual clutches. Unlike the Hyundais' DCT box, the DSGs can actually improve on the manual box's performance and economy, whereas Hyundai's DCTs are significantly worse than their manuals. I've had 2 Leon FRs with DSG (petrol and now diesel) and its a fantastic box..wouldnt go back to a manual now.
The 5 year warranty and roadside assistance is fantastic. ...because of this I will only be having Hyundai in the foreseeable future.
Don't Hyundai's (and Kia's) have some issue with stalling and the diesel fuel system in cold weather?
ezzer72

DCT is a very good system - just because VW Group couldn't get them right … DCT is a very good system - just because VW Group couldn't get them right (surprise surprise) that doesn't make them bad.


I love the S-Tronic in my S4... Great gearbox.
Sharpharp

Do you own one? Having owned a couple of these, old and new gen, build … Do you own one? Having owned a couple of these, old and new gen, build quality is poor compared to any other manufacturer. Even the Kia's are leagues above the Hyundais



We have 3 Hyundai cars in our work fleet, a few more KIA, nothing wrong with them at all & comparable to any mainstream manufacturer as I say.
srp111

I own one and have to say the build quality is great, the aftercare … I own one and have to say the build quality is great, the aftercare service is amazing at my local dealer, and the 5 year warranty is there just in case. Im very happy with hyundai, a lot of car for not a lot of money.



Agreed entirely, great cars for the money.
Bisham

VW Group have got them right with their DSG auto with dual clutches. … VW Group have got them right with their DSG auto with dual clutches. Unlike the Hyundais' DCT box, the DSGs can actually improve on the manual box's performance and economy, whereas Hyundai's DCTs are significantly worse than their manuals. I've had 2 Leon FRs with DSG (petrol and now diesel) and its a fantastic box..wouldnt go back to a manual now.



I do hope that extra little bit of mpg (probably a lie from them anyway) counters all of the associated hugely expensive repair bills that DSG's attract;

honestjohn.co.uk/ask…DSG
paul399

Don't Hyundai's (and Kia's) have some issue with stalling and the diesel … Don't Hyundai's (and Kia's) have some issue with stalling and the diesel fuel system in cold weather?



No, not really, about 3 Sportages I think, nothing like the VW Group epidemics.
Bisham

VW Group have got them right with their DSG auto with dual clutches. … VW Group have got them right with their DSG auto with dual clutches. Unlike the Hyundais' DCT box, the DSGs can actually improve on the manual box's performance and economy, whereas Hyundai's DCTs are significantly worse than their manuals. I've had 2 Leon FRs with DSG (petrol and now diesel) and its a fantastic box..wouldnt go back to a manual now.



Google DSG gearbox problems & open your eyes to a lot of aggravation with them in a lot of countries.

Enforced recalls in America, Australia amongst many.

The fact your gearboxes have been fine is a rare occurence apparently.
Tallyho

Google DSG gearbox problems & open your eyes to a lot of aggravation … Google DSG gearbox problems & open your eyes to a lot of aggravation with them in a lot of countries.Enforced recalls in America, Australia amongst many.The fact your gearboxes have been fine is a rare occurence apparently.



No idea about this dsg box but the newer vag box is superb. Better mpg, faster and effortless. I'll not be going back to a manual.
markymark34

No idea about this dsg box but the newer vag box is superb. Better mpg, … No idea about this dsg box but the newer vag box is superb. Better mpg, faster and effortless. I'll not be going back to a manual.



It may well be a bit faster etc., but wait until it goes bang, and it DEFINITELY will.
Sharpharp

Good car, good price, very bad build quality


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Please explian 're build quality
Tallyho

Google DSG gearbox problems & open your eyes to a lot of aggravation … Google DSG gearbox problems & open your eyes to a lot of aggravation with them in a lot of countries.Enforced recalls in America, Australia amongst many.The fact your gearboxes have been fine is a rare occurence apparently.


Google 'flying ant plague' and you'll think the world is facing insect apocalypse.

The whole internet knows that if you google anything, it MUST be true. Therefore , it likely isn't.
ezzer72

It may well be a bit faster etc., but wait until it goes bang, and it … It may well be a bit faster etc., but wait until it goes bang, and it DEFINITELY will.



I can only speak for my own experience, but I have 2 VAG DSGs (11 year old golf GT TDI and a 1 year old a6) and they are both trouble free and perform excellently.

I think the poorer system used in some cars is a single automated clutch, this deal is for a dual clutch of which I have found (in the VAG variant) to be good.

Seems like a good deal for the money they are asking - the depreciation over 3-5 years in real terms (actual cost rather than percentage) must be low too.
bilbob

Google 'flying ant plague' and you'll think the world is facing insect … Google 'flying ant plague' and you'll think the world is facing insect apocalypse.The whole internet knows that if you google anything, it MUST be true. Therefore , it likely isn't.



Whilst you are right that most phrases will turn up something in Google, only German car owners ever seem to have to make these excuses.
samjac26

I can only speak for my own experience, but I have 2 VAG DSGs (11 year … I can only speak for my own experience, but I have 2 VAG DSGs (11 year old golf GT TDI and a 1 year old a6) and they are both trouble free



So you are honestly trying to say that your 11 year old Golf has had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER?
ezzer72

Whilst you are right that most phrases will turn up something in Google, … Whilst you are right that most phrases will turn up something in Google, only German car owners ever seem to have to make these excuses.


Disclsure: I don't own a german car. I do own an auto though, good old fashioned TC auto in a mondeo.
No trouble from car or gear box in 140k so far.
I own a BMW 1 series and a Hyundai IX35

The IX35 is 3 years old and has a clutch issue that Hyundai refuse to acknowledge. The electrics in the car are also pants. Radio doesn't work properly, air con often does its own thing. Drive itself is nice.

Incidentally my 9 year old 1 series now needs a new timing chain/or hopefully tensioner.

Moral of the story, cars go wrong. But Hyundai does seem to have a lot of faults for a 3 year old car. Probably wouldn't buy another BMW or Hyundai.
ezzer72

So you are honestly trying to say that your 11 year old Golf has had NO … So you are honestly trying to say that your 11 year old Golf has had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER?



Of course not that would be silly

I'm just saying (my own experience) the dual clutch gearbox in my car is 11 years old and has been trouble free.
Edited by: "samjac26" 24th Oct 2015
ezzer72

It may well be a bit faster etc., but wait until it goes bang, and it … It may well be a bit faster etc., but wait until it goes bang, and it DEFINITELY will.



Yes, it definitely will - one day my dad's old MK5 Golf 170TDI GT (traded in 2 years ago with 123k miles on it and never having missed a beat) will go bang - but if it's after someone has done another 123k miles in it then it would have done ok. He's done over 400k miles between 4 VW DSGs he's owned from new, and not had any gearbox problems.

You will find that with the VAG DSG, if anything is going to go then it's the mechatronic unit and even then it's a rare event that'll generally happen within the first year of ownership, well within warranty. If you look on the net for an issue you'll always find that 1 person that had an issue with their product, but not the hundreds that had no issue. If you're prepared to spout random threads from honest John or whoever, you'll find people with all marques have issues.

ezzer72

So you are honestly trying to say that your 11 year old Golf has had NO … So you are honestly trying to say that your 11 year old Golf has had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER?



Can you honestly say that all Kias and Hyundais will get to 11 years old without issues either?

Most Kias are tiny pensioner shopping trolleys with a dearth of equipment to go wrong, do tiny mileages and never get driven to half their potential. My best mate's 77 year old dad has just sold his 14 year old Micra and my mate raves about how reliable it has been. It gets an oil change and air filter change every year, new spark plugs every other year and has done 26k miles from new. I'd be disappointed if it had been troublesome. He has just bought a new Kia Picanto. If he lives to be 100 and still has that car it'll likely not do 20k miles. Would that make it super reliable next to a 15 year old BMW 320d with 200k miles on the clock when something big goes wrong?
monkeyhanger75

Yes, it definitely will - one day my dad's old MK5 Golf 170TDI GT (traded … Yes, it definitely will - one day my dad's old MK5 Golf 170TDI GT (traded in 2 years ago with 123k miles on it and never having missed a beat) will go bang - but if it's after someone has done another 123k miles in it then it would have done ok. He's done over 400k miles between 4 VW DSGs he's owned from new, and not had any gearbox problems. You will find that with the VAG DSG, if anything is going to go then it's the mechatronic unit and even then it's a rare event that'll generally happen within the first year of ownership, well within warranty. If you look on the net for an issue you'll always find that 1 person that had an issue with their product, but not the hundreds that had no issue. If you're prepared to spout random threads from honest John or whoever, you'll find people with all marques have issues. Can you honestly say that all Kias and Hyundais will get to 11 years old without issues either? Most Kias are tiny pensioner shopping trolleys with a dearth of equipment to go wrong, do tiny mileages and never get driven to half their potential. My best mate's 77 year old dad has just sold his 14 year old Micra and my mate raves about how reliable it has been. It gets an oil change and air filter change every year, new spark plugs every other year and has done 26k miles from new. I'd be disappointed if it had been troublesome. He has just bought a new Kia Picanto. If he lives to be 100 and still has that car it'll likely not do 20k miles. Would that make it super reliable next to a 15 year old BMW 320d with 200k miles on the clock when something big goes wrong?



We've talked about your Dad being the World's luckiest man before. You have also rammed down our throats the amazing technology VW have that gives incredibly low emissions vs. horsepower.

You were kinda right with that

Anyway, the scandal isn't over yet, so get back in your box for a while.
ezzer72

We've talked about your Dad being the World's luckiest man before. You … We've talked about your Dad being the World's luckiest man before. You have also rammed down our throats the amazing technology VW have that gives incredibly low emissions vs. horsepower.You were kinda right with that ;)Anyway, the scandal isn't over yet, so get back in your box for a while.



I'm sure it'll get out that all the marques were at it, but the yanks won't go out of their way to investigate and implicate one of their own (Ford, Chrysler etc) - most of the EU5 compliant diesels across the marques have similar levels of quoted CO2/NOx/Output per displacement/mpg.

Worlds luckiest man that every other VW ever sold has blown up except his? Backed up by the words of a car salesman as gospel.

There's a variety of reasons why Kia occupy a certain small segment in the UK market, They have a long warranty (built into the price) and they're cheap. You get nothing for nothing though - in that cheap Kia you can see where money has been saved. They are not offering German levels of refinement and performance for pennies - you get what you pay for in the new car market - a £10k car is noticeably a £10k car when sat next to a £15k car.

They are trying to look like German cars though and poaching executives from German manufacturers, so the Germans must be doing something right by the Koreans.

Edited by: "monkeyhanger75" 24th Oct 2015
monkeyhanger75

I'm sure it'll get out that all the marques were at it, but the yanks … I'm sure it'll get out that all the marques were at it, but the yanks won't go out of their way to investigate and implicate one of their own (Ford, Chrysler etc) - most of the EU5 compliant diesels across the marques have similar levels of quoted CO2/NOx/Output per displacement/mpg. Worlds luckiest man that every other VW ever sold has blown up except his? Backed up by the words of a car salesman as gospel. There's a variety of reasons why Kia occupy a certain small segment in the UK market, They have a long warranty (built into the price) and they're cheap. You get nothing for nothing though - in that cheap Kia you can see where money has been saved. They are not offering German levels of refinement and performance for pennies - you get what you pay for in the new car market - a £10k car is noticeably a £10k car when sat next to a £15k car. They are trying to look like German cars though and poaching executives from German manufacturers, so the Germans must be doing something right by the Koreans.



Well the chief's of Kia and Hyundai have both categorically stated that they haven't, and have written declarations to that effect - I don't think they would be daft enough to do that if they were going to be found out...

I like the way that VW have only been busted for their diesels so far - I GUARANTEE that we'll find out they were at something similar with their petrol cars too, wait and see...

All 8 of your VW's have had faults, but your Dad's 'example' car didn't. Hmmm, okay.

The German refinement is all in your (and other 'mugs') heads - I'll grant you the performance thing, though other nations have managed better, pro-rata.

The market share isn't tiny - admittedly, it's smaller than VW's, just as every manufacturer's is. We will of course see a change in this pattern from now onwards, now as VW have admitted to being lying, cheating scumbags.

Greggs have the largest market share in their field too. Discuss.

And yes, you make a fair point about the poaching, just as long as they keep to styling and tuning and don't start suggesting plastic engine components it'll be all good in the hood.
bilbob

Google 'flying ant plague' and you'll think the world is facing insect … Google 'flying ant plague' and you'll think the world is facing insect apocalypse.The whole internet knows that if you google anything, it MUST be true. Therefore , it likely isn't.



Believe what you want but it is a well known fact that the DSG gearbox is problematic.
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