I, Daniel Blake  - 99p HD to rent on Amazon Video
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Found 27th May 2017
Supposed to be an excellent film by director Ken Loach. It was £4.49 when I looked at it last week, but opted to watch room instead. Glad I waited. Not sure how long this will be on offer.
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Very good movie. Watch this before you vote.
Ajibee

For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!



Utter nonsense and horribly ignorant. As somebody who has worked with long-term unemployed individuals with difficult circumstances I can tell you that I was disappointed with this film because it's SO mild. Granted, Ken Loach probably made it deliberately mild to try to reach people who are completely unaware of the living conditions of those who are less fortunate, it's a shame that it didn't make you feel any compassion or empathy for your neighbours.

FWIW I'm not remotely interested in politics, it bores me to tears, nor am I a fan of Ken Loach (That's not to say that I dislike him) but to dismiss the film as propaganda is very unfair and untrue.

As a fan of film I didn't like it tbh but I can appreciate what it was trying to achieve.
A couple of years ago I would have dismissed this film as fiction, as had been briefly unemployed 30 odd years ago when you just got your dole money if you had done no work.

However after being made redundant last year after 30 year's I found the film to be spot on, even as a previous poster said , milder than it actually is.

Some of the words I would use ,,dehumanising , disgusting, and totalitarian , I have never in my life been treated with such disdain , I don't blame the staff some of whom looked as disgusted as I was, but also many on little on power trips.

I was even in the same situation as Daniel, my doctor did not want me to work till my health issues were resolved, so I was sent for an assessment , the result of which was they assessed me to be fit for some work commensurate with my health problems, so fair enough I thought and went to sign on.

This was the fun bit ☹ , the woman I saw (nurse hatchet) said I could not claim ESA (sick pay) because I was fit for work but I also could not claim normal benefits unless I signed to say I was fit for all work something their own assessment said I could not do......so had to basically sign a document to say I was fit for work or stay in a catch 22 situation

To see Ian Duncan Smith constantly on the TV saying these things could not happen really was the icing on the cake..

Anyway great film .......and I guess you know who I will be voting for
Edited by: "mfactor" 28th May 2017
Ajibee

For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!



No just a honest reflection
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Excellent gritty film, watched it last week.
Enjoyed this movie immensely..
Very good movie. Watch this before you vote.
Great movie.
War Dogs also 99p
Taut he looked like Ed sheeran
mattgrant

Very good movie. Watch this before you vote.


For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!
Ajibee

For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!


Far left propaganda? Really?
Edited by: "Jazzerd" 27th May 2017
Ajibee

For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!



No just a honest reflection
Ajibee

For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!



Utter nonsense and horribly ignorant. As somebody who has worked with long-term unemployed individuals with difficult circumstances I can tell you that I was disappointed with this film because it's SO mild. Granted, Ken Loach probably made it deliberately mild to try to reach people who are completely unaware of the living conditions of those who are less fortunate, it's a shame that it didn't make you feel any compassion or empathy for your neighbours.

FWIW I'm not remotely interested in politics, it bores me to tears, nor am I a fan of Ken Loach (That's not to say that I dislike him) but to dismiss the film as propaganda is very unfair and untrue.

As a fan of film I didn't like it tbh but I can appreciate what it was trying to achieve.
voted hot because the film was literally amazing and really was emotional
I broke down in tears watching the scene at the food bank
Weapon

Utter nonsense and horribly ignorant. As somebody who has worked with … Utter nonsense and horribly ignorant. As somebody who has worked with long-term unemployed individuals with difficult circumstances I can tell you that I was disappointed with this film because it's SO mild. Granted, Ken Loach probably made it deliberately mild to try to reach people who are completely unaware of the living conditions of those who are less fortunate, it's a shame that it didn't make you feel any compassion or empathy for your neighbours.FWIW I'm not remotely interested in politics, it bores me to tears, nor am I a fan of Ken Loach (That's not to say that I dislike him) but to dismiss the film as propaganda is very unfair and untrue.As a fan of film I didn't like it tbh but I can appreciate what it was trying to achieve.


You have to accept that there are some people with stone hearts - always has been and always will be - you can't change that any more than you can change the weather.
A film about a guy with a bad attitude thinking the world owes him. This film is probably on repeat at Labour HQ
Great movie. An eye opener to what some people are currently going tru.
jonboy81

A film about a guy with a bad attitude thinking the world owes him. This … A film about a guy with a bad attitude thinking the world owes him. This film is probably on repeat at Labour HQ



​He had legal right written in statute law to receive benefits. I sure he contribute enough to the national insurance scheme as, also, is set out by law. The ignorance of trolls is mind blowing. Some are paid by third parties to disrupt debate and maintain gross inequality. Here's hoping you don't have to go through the trauma of applying for benefits. If you do give me a message and I'll tell you where to go.
Ajibee

For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!



Yeah, because:

-food banks don’t exist in England,

-people aren’t being categorised as fit for work who clearly aren’t (just this week on the Jeremy Vine Show he talked about a gentleman with chronic Crohn’s disease being declared fit for work by an agency working for HMRC!)

-there’s not a social housing problem

-there’s not a shortage of jobs around the country

I personally (currently!) am not directly affected but fully appreciate that others sadly are. We shouldn’t bury our heads in the sand about these issues or worse still, think those individuals affected are deserving of their circumstances.

Thankfully there’s also good charities like The Trussell Trust out there and a lot of decent people taking a proactive approach in helping their fellow man.


Great film.
Edited by: "Stuie1" 28th May 2017
Good film and as I work in the industry it frustrates me as I've never ever treated a claimant like that. Many of us try so hard to help and when you see jobsworths making the lives of people who are already struggling a misery it angers me.
The genuine in need I have all the time in the world for. The sad reality is many who claimed for life just don't qualify anymore or do not qualify for other reasons.
It's a good film to show people in customer service how to step up and help rather than hinder.
Tremendous film. Any Loach film is worth watching and this one sums up the times we live in
As usual, a load of nonsense spouted on this thread.

Is it realistic? Having been a claimant, I would say so. Especially the on-hold queues and jobsworths that follow a script, and will not deviate.

Are all claimants genuinely needy? No, about half are, the other half are just trying to screw the system for as much as they can.

Having also some experience of Citizen's Advice I can confidently claim roughly three quarters of people in trouble are there by their own making.

Are the Tories making it better? Of course not. Will Labour improve things? No chance. The only difference is they'll waste more money.

But most importantly, is this film any good? It's alright if you like this kind of gritty realism. It's undeniably powerful in parts (althought the ending is a bit too neat). Not one I'd ever watch again though.
jobibear

The ignorance of trolls is mind blowing. Some are paid by third parties … The ignorance of trolls is mind blowing. Some are paid by third parties to disrupt debate and maintain gross inequality.



Why is he a troll for giving his view on the film. Rather childish to call someone out for trolling because they dislike something you like.

Also where can I get paid to disrupt debate and maintain gross inequality? Any evidence jobs like this exist and not just your paranoia? You did a good job yourself there so you must be owed a few quid.

As for the film, I liked it. I felt for the guy. I've struggled on benefits a fair few times before and been on the streets, albeit thankfully briefly, so I need no lectures myself.
A couple of years ago I would have dismissed this film as fiction, as had been briefly unemployed 30 odd years ago when you just got your dole money if you had done no work.

However after being made redundant last year after 30 year's I found the film to be spot on, even as a previous poster said , milder than it actually is.

Some of the words I would use ,,dehumanising , disgusting, and totalitarian , I have never in my life been treated with such disdain , I don't blame the staff some of whom looked as disgusted as I was, but also many on little on power trips.

I was even in the same situation as Daniel, my doctor did not want me to work till my health issues were resolved, so I was sent for an assessment , the result of which was they assessed me to be fit for some work commensurate with my health problems, so fair enough I thought and went to sign on.

This was the fun bit ☹ , the woman I saw (nurse hatchet) said I could not claim ESA (sick pay) because I was fit for work but I also could not claim normal benefits unless I signed to say I was fit for all work something their own assessment said I could not do......so had to basically sign a document to say I was fit for work or stay in a catch 22 situation

To see Ian Duncan Smith constantly on the TV saying these things could not happen really was the icing on the cake..

Anyway great film .......and I guess you know who I will be voting for
Edited by: "mfactor" 28th May 2017
Ajibee

For the full far left Ken Loach propaganda effect!



I can assure you several of the things portrayed in the film are accurate, I've seen them plus worse happen in real life.

Personally I think the film didn't touch enough on issues in the private rented sector. It's one of those things which can make the lives of these people 10x worse and grinds them down. Not to say there isn't good reason for landlords refusing to let to irresponsible tenants, the problem is if you're on a means tested benefit, then it can be nigh on impossible to find somewhere to live, no matter how good a tenant you are. It's a shame as landlords need good tenants but the moment you mention 'benefits' they run a mile.

In this film, Daniel Blake seems to be living in social housing. Imagine how things would have been if he'd been in the private rented sector and the landlord tried to evict him. Wouldn't have taken long for him to end up on the streets in my opinion.

I'd encourage people here to look into the 'Funding for Lending Scheme' and also how landlords have historically calculated their tax bills. I just think it's apalling how much money has been thrown at the private rented sector over the years, how high rents are and how precarious life is for the people who have no other choice but to rent privately. Meanwhile the tenants get branded as scroungers just because they don't want to live below the poverty line.

Edited by: "supermann" 28th May 2017
Stuie1

Yeah, because: -food banks don’t exist in England, -people aren’t being c … Yeah, because: -food banks don’t exist in England, -people aren’t being categorised as fit for work who clearly aren’t (just this week on the Jeremy Vine Show he talked about a gentleman with chronic Crohn’s disease being declared fit for work by an agency working for HMRC!) -there’s not a social housing problem-there’s not a shortage of jobs around the county



As for the latter two, you think Labour's program of mass immigration that started in 1997 and will undoubtedly continue under Corbyn has had little effect on that? You don't think that the 18% of foreign born people living in social housing hasn't affected what's available for our own British needy like Daniel Blake or that the 4 million or so migrants currently here (as well as 8 million foreign born altogether) has not been a factor in the shortage of jobs for people like Mr D. Blake.

No doubt someone will superficially dismiss this as blaming Jonny Foreigner, an easy way to sweep the problems of mass, poorly managed immigration under the carpet and continue to allow business and especially big business to direct the policy with metropolitan middle class liberal elite backing.

One other thing that gets mentioned often is we have needed the mass cheap labour of the past 20 years because British people have become lazy. That is a myth that plays into the stigma of those on benefits.

This country managed fine before and can still do so. It's not a need by business, it's just a desire and dependency for cheap desperate Eastern European labour.







Edited by: "xenophon" 28th May 2017
Stuie1

Yeah, because: -food banks don’t exist in England, -people aren’t being c … Yeah, because: -food banks don’t exist in England, -people aren’t being categorised as fit for work who clearly aren’t (just this week on the Jeremy Vine Show he talked about a gentleman with chronic Crohn’s disease being declared fit for work by an agency working for HMRC!) -there’s not a social housing problem-there’s not a shortage of jobs around the county I personally (currently!) am not directly affected but fully appreciate that others sadly are. We shouldn’t bury our heads in the sand about these issues or worse still, think those individuals affected are deserving of their circumstances.Thankfully there’s also good charities like The Trussell Trust out there and a lot of decent people taking a proactive approach in helping their fellow man. Great film.



​Could get a job as a bog tester?
This seems like an update his other play 'The Spongers' it was made in 1978

'Set against the backdrop of Silver Jubilee of Elizabeth II, the play depicts a single mother's struggles as welfare cuts affect the poor and disabled'

I should point out that when this version was made it was the LABOUR goverment that was in power.
Edited by: "shasnir" 28th May 2017
Hot deal and also the most ironic I've seen on here. Watch something thought provoking around rights and welfare by paying less from a tax evading leviathan. I'm in.
Just watched the trailer seems like a good film
xenophon

As for the latter two, you think Labour's program of mass immigration … As for the latter two, you think Labour's program of mass immigration that started in 1997 and will undoubtedly continue under Corbyn has had little effect on that? You don't think that the 18% of foreign born people living in social housing hasn't affected what's available for our own British needy like Daniel Blake or that the 4 million or so migrants currently here (as well as 8 million foreign born altogether) has not been a factor in the shortage of jobs for people like Mr D. Blake. No doubt someone will superficially dismiss this as blaming Jonny Foreigner, an easy way to sweep the problems of mass, poorly managed immigration under the carpet and continue to allow business and especially big business to direct the policy with metropolitan middle class liberal elite backing.One other thing that gets mentioned often is we have needed the mass cheap labour of the past 20 years because British people have become lazy. That is a myth that plays into the stigma of those on benefits.This country managed fine before and can still do so. It's not a need by business, it's just a desire and dependency for cheap desperate Eastern European labour.



There's no doubt that migrants put pressure on public services, however they also pay for them in taxes.

What's more, without the migrants the economy would not have grown like it did and that has a knock on effect on other stuff like how many homes get built.
Edited by: "supermann" 28th May 2017
The film Theresa May would rather you never saw. That alone means you should all watch it before June 8th.
After reading this thread I'm gonna have to watch the film now!
Alasdair916 m ago

The film Theresa May would rather you never saw. That alone means you …The film Theresa May would rather you never saw. That alone means you should all watch it before June 8th.


You telling me this only occurs under May or under the Conservatives? You just arrived from another planet? Because I can tell you I've experienced similar under BOTH governments, and it will continue under both.
I had zero interest in this film after seeing trailers and interviews, but randomly ended up seeing it. It's a really good piece of work which I enjoyed much more than I thought I would and would recommend that anyone even on the fence gives it a go!
mfactor

A couple of years ago I would have dismissed this film as fiction, as had … A couple of years ago I would have dismissed this film as fiction, as had been briefly unemployed 30 odd years ago when you just got your dole money if you had done no work.However after being made redundant last year after 30 year's I found the film to be spot on, even as a previous poster said , milder than it actually is.Some of the words I would use ,,dehumanising , disgusting, and totalitarian , I have never in my life been treated with such disdain , I don't blame the staff some of whom looked as disgusted as I was, but also many on little on power trips.I was even in the same situation as Daniel, my doctor did not want me to work till my health issues were resolved, so I was sent for an assessment , the result of which was they assessed me to be fit for some work commensurate with my health problems, so fair enough I thought and went to sign on.This was the fun bit ☹ , the woman I saw (nurse hatchet) said I could not claim ESA (sick pay) because I was fit for work but I also could not claim normal benefits unless I signed to say I was fit for all work something their own assessment said I could not do......so had to basically sign a document to say I was fit for work or stay in a catch 22 situationTo see Ian Duncan Smith constantly on the TV saying these things could not happen really was the icing on the cake..Anyway great film .......and I guess you know who I will be voting for




Thanks for sharing this.

When you say "and I guess you know who I will be voting for..", the logical thing would be voting Labour. However, I find it mind blowing that there are people out there who have been suffering directly because of Tories policies and they are still planing on voting Tories !!!!!!

Similar thing just happened in the US. Obama said 'you get the politicians you deserve'...but none of us deserve Tories' polices or someone with May's personality (wobbly, all talks with no substance, no achievement records apart from failure on cutting down immigration numbers yet still insisting on the same policy AND cutting down police funding and numbers).

I really hope that people do wake up and get the right person in. Otherwise, we will see more people like Daniel Blake, the collapse of social care and the NHS over the next five years, on top of the economic consequences of a hard Brexit that the Tories are pushing for.

xenophon

You telling me this only occurs under May or under the Conservatives? You … You telling me this only occurs under May or under the Conservatives? You just arrived from another planet? Because I can tell you I've experienced similar under BOTH governments, and it will continue under both.




You know that the previous Labour government (Blair's) was more Tories than it was True Labour. You can not compare this to what is currently on offer.
Watched this on Qatar Airways a few weeks ago. Hard-hitting, sometimes difficult watch reality of those struggling to live in the UK. Definitely recommend.
supermann

There's no doubt that migrants put pressure on public services, however … There's no doubt that migrants put pressure on public services, however they also pay for them in taxes.What's more, without the migrants the economy would not have grown like it did and that has a knock on effect on other stuff like how many homes get built.




Not blaming migrants they are just looking for a better life..............

But after I was made redundant I went to one of our competitors to get a job (bus driver) and was told flat out that they preferred eastern Europeans as they were better workers, after a bit of pressing the route manager who I had known for years told me what better workers meant...

1) They will work for minimum wage as its a lot to them , who would blame them, if someone said to me go to another country and get twice what I get at home I would bite their hand off....

2) They are willing to break the law over drivers hours, safety , record keeping etc...so are more "efficient" (his words)

3) The company rents out rooms to the drivers often 2/3 to 1 room in houses they rent...nice little earner at £50 per person.

4) Unions and or Workers rights...... not a chance .....



So basically all the rights and conditions and standard of living that you and me and those before us have worked for since the war cost the company more, ..........they treat the workers like dirt..

I was lucky enough to get a good job elsewear ,but its heartbreaking talking to my old colleagues who managed to get a job there, going from a 39 hour week to a 60 hour week and dropping £6000 per year in wages as well...
Some are really struggling as had mortgages based on their previous earnings.
Other companies are not as blatant about it but wages across the industry have stagnated over the last few years as a result of a ready supply of cheap labour.


Edited by: "mfactor" 28th May 2017
when people are saying "great film" what they mean is "I agree with this policital opinion"

I have a disability and this is an accurate portrayal of the current government. Very well researched, nothing more to say.
shasnir

What is currently on offer is a Far Left Labour Party. No thank you.




If you look at the policies on offer you'll find that many of them like free education and nationalised rail are actually the norm in neighbouring countries to us. So hardly far left are they.

I'd say the problem is that our country is way way too right wing.

Edited by: "supermann" 28th May 2017
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