IBM Thinkpad T41 Laptop Centrino 1.6Ghz - 512Mb - 40Gb - DVD-ROM - Wireless WiFi - 14.1 inch TFT - Win XP Pr ~ USED & Limited Stock £174.99 @ BigPockets.co.uk
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IBM Thinkpad T41 Laptop Centrino 1.6Ghz - 512Mb - 40Gb - DVD-ROM - Wireless WiFi - 14.1 inch TFT - Win XP Pr ~ USED & Limited Stock £174.99 @ BigPockets.co.uk

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Found 8th Feb 2009
USED & 22 in stock @ the time of posting

* IBM Thinkpad T41 Laptop
* CPU / Processor Intel Centrino 1.6Ghz
* Hard Drive Size 40 Gb Minimum
* RAM / Memory Size 512Mb Minimum
* Optical Drive(s) DVD-ROM
* Network / Connectivity 56k Modem, Integrated Wi-fi Wireless Capability
* Audio / Sound 16 bit Sound
* Screen 14.1 Inch TFT Screen
* Additional 2x USB, Ac Adaptor, Battery, UK Keyboard
* Warranty 3 Months warranty, DOA Warranty on Battery
* Operating System Windows XP Pro

IBM's long-lasting ThinkPad T40/T41/T42 series combines a svelte, thin-and-light chassis with Intel's Pentium M processor, the 855PM chipset and a choice of wireless adapters. Choosing Intel's PRO/Wireless adapter (as fitted in our review sample) makes your T40 a true Centrino notebook. The ThinkPad T40/T41/T42 also offers a dual-band, 802.11a/b antenna; an excellent keyboard; and wafer-thin swappable modules. It's not the fastest Pentium M notebook we've tested, but it's a business traveller's dream nonetheless: an extra-thin system with superb battery life if you buy the bigger of the two batteries. Those who crave more speed should consider another Pentium M notebook, the Dell Inspiron 1501, but businesses who add the ThinkPad T40/T41/T42 to their line up can rest assured that they're getting an exceptional notebook. It's an Editors' Choice winner, despite its relatively steep price.

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All right if you don't want to use it as a portable as the battery is likely to be shot. warranty only covers a totally DOA battery. Approx £60+ for a new battery then you are getting close to a higher spec current laptop (bottom end of market obviously).
I think it's worth £100?:?

mozzer99;4318206

All right if you don't want to use it as a portable as the battery is … All right if you don't want to use it as a portable as the battery is likely to be shot. warranty only covers a totally DOA battery. Approx £60+ for a new battery then you are getting close to a higher spec current laptop (bottom end of market obviously).I think it's worth £100?:?



And you need to be aware that there are known faults with the T4X series, where the motherboard has problems, specifically where you lose video because of video chip jointing with the motherboard (soldered), and also there are other problems - I have had a T42 & T41 both fail after about 3.5-4 years with these problems (like it wont boot, or it does boot until you touch the keyboard and then it re-boots)- at which point they are good for sale for spares or repairs (which is annoying when you have owned from new - but at least you have had 3-4 years use).

But as this is 2nd hand you may find your getting a product that may have this failure in 4 months time - in which case it was an expensive buy. I have and would go for the X series from IBM Lenovo - doesn't have the same problems. If your not aware of these problems do some searching on google. hope that helps you make a decision!

Ive had a T42 for a while now and never had any problems. It is a nice laptop but I wouldnt pay this amount for a 2nd hand as nowadays you can probably spend a little more to get a better spec bit of kit. I would probably agree with mozzer and its worth about that much.

you would be better off getting a netbook if that is your budget.

jough;4318313

you would be better off getting a netbook if that is your budget.



I certainly do not agree.The cheap netbooks are useless.

mx-3;4318394

I certainly do not agree.The cheap netbooks are useless.



Why do folk never qualify their statements?

The argument here is a 'cheap' Netbook versus a laptop.

If you're only using this T41 to access the internet then the 'cheap' Netbooks (Asda Acer deal) is perfectly adequate and a better tool for the job that this.

However, if you need a CD\DVD drive and will be using this as a mobile replacement for a desktop - MS office apps, some gaming, etc then this is a cheap deal. But you've been warned above about the potential need for a new battery and the pretty common problem with the motherboard video.

I have a T41 with the motherboard video problem and basically the machine isn't worth fixing.

BigPocket is now trying to cheat their customers. Trying to sell refurbished PC/Laptops which is very outdate at a unbelievable high price. For this price, you can buy a brand new Netbook from Asus/Acer with complete warranty. Again, the IBM T41 only comes with 40GB Harddrive (Possible very limited life-time) and Intel Centrino 1.6Ghz (Fairly old and not much faster than Atom). Also, 512MB DDR-so-dimm is awful. You will need to speed a lot to buy extra memory. The battery-life is also a concern cos it's refurbished.

granted if you need a cd drive then this is for you, I dont and also have an external dvd writer for when I do..

on the games side, I doubt this would run GTA Vice City, Pro Evo 06, Colin Mcrae4 and MotoGP07 and better than it is on my Medion E1210(rebadged MSi Wind). 1.6 Atom, 160HDD, 1gb ram,,

ro888;4318541

BigPocket is now trying to cheat their customers. Trying to sell … BigPocket is now trying to cheat their customers. Trying to sell refurbished PC/Laptops which is very outdate at a unbelievable high price. For this price, you can buy a brand new Netbook from Asus/Acer with complete warranty. Again, the IBM T41 only comes with 40GB Harddrive (Possible very limited life-time) and Intel Centrino 1.6Ghz (Fairly old and not much faster than Atom). Also, 512MB DDR-so-dimm is awful. You will need to speed a lot to buy extra memory. The battery-life is also a concern cos it's refurbished.



I can only take issue with one point you say - What do you mean "NOW?" Has it ever been different? :-(

Rarely a week goes by without someone posting up one or more of these cast-offs, and what's more some people with a strange attitude to the value of money go to extreme lengths to tell us how wonderful they are, when Laptops (or basic desktops or whatever "offer" it is at the time) are so cheap now, and offer guaranteed superior performance for little more!

If we have a comparison between IBM T41 and Acer Aspire One

Model Number Frequency L2-Cache FSB Mult Voltage TDP
Pentium M 1.6 1600 MHz 1 MB 400 MT/s 16x 0.956/1.484 V 6-24.5 W
Atom N270 1600 MHz 512 KiB 533 MT/s 12x 0.75 - 1.1V 2.5 W

Pentium M 1.6 support: MMX, SSE, SSE2, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology (EIST)
Atom N270 support: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology (EIST), bit (an NX bit implementation)

Memory
IBM T41 : 512MB DDR So-DIMM (PC2700 at 333MHz)
Acer Aspire One: 1GB DDR2 So-DIMM

Storage
IBM T41 : 40GB IDE Hard drive
Acer Aspire One: 120GB SATA Hard drive

Graphics:
IBM T41 : 32MB ATI Mobility RADEON 7500 (DirectX 7)
Acer Aspire One: Mobile Intel 945GSE 8MB Shared (DirectX 9)

Battery:
IBM T41 : 6 cell Up to 5.5 hours (However, it's old battery and this figure is suspicious)
Acer Aspire One: 3 Cell (3 Hours Battery Life)

I used a T41 at work for 4 years and have it switched on at least 12 hours a day. After 4 years it has not much corporate life left but fine as a lightly used second hander possibly for some years more, but do backup frequently as your machine will break any moment, either the disk as it has been whirling non-stop for 4 years in corporate life or the CPU fan would stop , bearing worn out, which may melt your processor. My company scraps them for less £50 each. Realistically @ £174 is over priced , it has got to be less than £99 to be worthwhile. The reason is that for a similar brand new machine it is about £280 then you have warranty which is worth £50 and a brand new battery that is worth £50, and when you come to sell it it is worth £100... so you are paying £100 or so for a new machine really. So why pay £175 for a worn out second hander!

Other points worth considering:-
1) The backlight after 4 years is less bright
2) The CPU fan and other components would be covered in dust and therefore the components inside run warmer and hence shorten their life
3) disk is about to bust , so may cost you £40 for a replacement
4) the touchpad is less sensitive and the centerpoint (red bit knob that uses as a joystick) is partially worn

However you have to pray that you are a lightly used one but then £175 is still too much to pay for a 4 to 5 year old machine. Oh yes, another possible failure , I got this knowledge ffrom the people who fix the T41, T42 is that although they are very robust and reliable (top laptop brand) but with 4 years of abuse, lots of people hold their laptops by the edges and walk to meetings with them... the motherboard develops a hair line crack on the cicuit board due to flexing the chasis hundreds of times over the years. With a second hand one this may be fine for now and as a secondhander the motherbaord may not withstanding much more flexing. This is expensive repair and is uneconomical to repair unless you buy another T41 for spares.

Now I come to think of it , pay no more than £80 for a T41 secondhand.

I find it hilarious that people are comparing a 2 year old (£1000+ when new) laptop with a brand-new netbook.

Also - companies may sell them for peanuts but only to someone who will guarantee the machines are wiped clean etc. before resale - and they are going to want paying for doing that as well as to make a profit (and cover the cost of the machines returned as faulty) etc. etc.

Despite the multiple tales of woe (the plural of "anecdote" is not "data", remember!) I've had a load of refurbed corporate laptops in my time (HP, Toshiba and IBM) and I've not seen a bad one yet.

For the money they are better buy (IMO) than Netbooks because they are more upgradeable, more spares are available and they do more (CD/DVD drives, PC Cards etc. makes them more flexible). They're also better made and frequently have manufacturers warranty left (2 years old with 3 years manuf. warranty).

Netbooks are only better if you are obsessed with having 'new' and/or with the size/weight aspect (and don't mind the quality/battery life/keyboard/trackpad compromises that results in).

As people have said - is that budgetting for a new battery is wise with these but otherwise I like them.

But by all means keep knocking them because the corporate castoff laptop has been my "best of way making money on PCs" for years and I'm happy for people to remain ignorant of it

therealjohnpeat;4320678

But by all means keep knocking them because the corporate castoff laptop … But by all means keep knocking them because the corporate castoff laptop has been my "best of way making money on PCs" for years and I'm happy for people to remain ignorant of it



which is why your opinion of netbooks is what it is, and that is why I take your opinion with a pinch of salt, not good quality Lo-Salt either, the cheapo smartprice stuff...

but hey just as long as you are 'happy' with peoples 'ignorance' eh..! I find you hilarious

For the record I currently have a Netbook (NC10 which I've praised and recommended here many times) - have previously had an AAO and a EEE too - I'm not knocking Netbooks as such, they have their place in the world (esp. if size/weight matters and/or they are £150!) but some corporate refurb laptops are MUCH better value IMO

Choose wisely and be prepared for a few scratches etc. and you generally get more machine for less money - better screens, keyboards, built-in DVD/CD Writers, more expansion options and better quality.

Also - this "pay no more than £80 for a 2nd-hand machine" is particularly daft on account of no-one would sell you one for that would they?

Laptops have an intrinsic value - there's always someone willing to pay a decent price (check eBay prices for example) - I'd say there's nothing under £150 which doesn't have a snag to it so a good, warranted, returnable under the DSR machine under £200 isn't the bad deal some people make it out to be...

Remember that different people have different needs - there's too much "this isn't for me so it's **** - voted cold" going on around here...
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