Infantino Front 2 Back Rider Baby Carrier (7.99 HALFORDS)
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Infantino Front 2 Back Rider Baby Carrier (7.99 HALFORDS)

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Found 5th Jun 2012
Went to halfords today to pick up some castrol and the turtlewax wash. Came across this in the baby section reduced. There was one left in Burton, thought at this price it was worth a punt. It can be used front or back facing.
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wouldn't use that carrier if you paid me, poor bubba
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WHY ?
Seems decent enough, the baby can see and they quite like being in them. Are you specifically complaining about this model?
It's the way it 'supports' the baby.There is evidence that babies need to be supported in a frog-legged or seated position, not legs 'dangling' like this baby is. Carriers that hold babies in this way generally tend to be less comfortable both for the person carrying the baby (it pulls on the back) and for the baby themself. It is possible that it can put too much pressure through the groin area and potentially put strain through the developing spine and muscles/ligaments. These sort of carriers are the reason why many people believe you cannot carry babies once they get past the 6 month age (roughly) as babies generally are too heavy for these type of carriers. Incidentally, carriers that also allow the baby to face forwards are not good either, mainly from the spinal point of view. I'm on my phone or I would provide more links than this one:
bobafamily.com/blo…ut/
It's all about personal choice and some people will chose to use the high street baby carriers and carry facing out. Personally I don't and wouldn't. Hth.
These carriers can be bad for baby's hip development. A good sling should support the baby in a sitting position from knee to knee, these essentially put all the weight on the baby's crotch/hips. They can also be uncomfortable to carry a baby in after a short period of time.

A bargain compared to the normal price, but there are much better slings out there and some can be had second hand for £10 so I would always recommend something like that over one of these.

slingguide.co.uk/
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I think maybe if your carrying the baby all the time instead of using a pushchair then yea, i would get an all singing all dancing one.
(not one of them sling things as they dont look safe to me, thats just my opinion)
As i will only use this if we go a day out once in a while up the peak district or somewhere similar, i think its ideal.
My partner makes and sells slings, she also imports and sells 'kozy carriers' from the US. I hardly know anything about slings, but what I've picked up from her is basically what the other people have said on here. They're really bad for the baby's development, and also not that comfortable for the person carrying them. There are MUCH better sling options out there.
Not a good deal for reasons listed by above posters, do your research and get a sling that supports your baby properly.
I've got a Baby Bjorn carrier but now I'm kind of worried after what I've read. Is it safe to use at the end of the day?
Each to their own, but i wouldnt personally be putting my baby in one of these much rather use my moby wrap, better for baby and loads safer.
A couple of links that explain some of the reason these type of carriers (include Baby bjorns) are not great for babies. Some people use them occasionally but I'd rather buy a proper carrier as you can often get them at similar prices and much better for baby

hipdysplasia.org/Dev…spx

storchenwiege.com/bab…htm
Edited by: "chazsucks" 7th Jun 2012
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I've got a Baby Bjorn carrier but now I'm kind of worried after what I've … I've got a Baby Bjorn carrier but now I'm kind of worried after what I've read. Is it safe to use at the end of the day?



I guess it depends on what you define as safe. BB will insist that the arguments behind correct carrying are not grounded but they have a product to sell. I personally would not put my kids in a BB. If it would help you are welcome to message me privately and I can talk you through what to look out for & places to go for more info. FYI I don't make or sell baby carriers. It's just a subject that interests me & I care about so am happy to offer help. I won't be offended if you don't want to. In the meantime you may find the following websites helpful:
naturalmamas.co.uk
slingmeet.co.uk
There are also sling libraries dotted around the country so if you google sling library then your home town you may find one close to you.
Don't beat yourself up Though;)
had one of these things when my son was a baby (20 years ago). Only used it for going round the supermarket .....until the day he slipped out into a chest freezer!!! lol
I'm sorry this post is so long but if you read it I promise that by the end you'll be better informed about your baby and the safety of baby carriers

I've been a long time HotUKDeals stalker for many years but today I've decided to sign up for an account after discovering this post and another post containing similar comments that may be terribly misleading and ill informed.

Let me preface this by saying, my degree and career background is mainly in IT and I work very hard to research emerging technologies and analyse systems and make informed choices based on peer reviewed research, statistics and proven results rather than promises and conjecture. And all the while it's my duty to remain unbiased regardless of my own personal preferences toward a company or any personal relationship I may have with a lab or within an organisation.
Saying that I was also a live-in Nanny for about two years and was lucky enough to live with some amazing people and raise some amazing children and I'll carry those memories with me for my whole life. Oh and I just became an Uncle two months ago.

As I've watched my sister and her fiance and both their respective parents struggle to hold baby T for any discernible amount of time, and I myself have found it to be a bit cumbersome to carry him round the house in my arms and keep him entertained whilst also trying to do anything in the house, I decided that I was going to buy them a baby carrier.

So I looked around in the stores as for clothing and things of that regard I prefer to see and feel the quality of the material rather than just order online.
So now I had an idea of the quality of some of these things and how they felt wearing them, so I took to the internet. Read reviews on Amazon, Which?, Revoo, MumsNet, Just typing into Google and sifting through somewhere towards 50 - 70 sites, Tweets and blogs.

I treat this the same way I'd research into a company I would potentially work with.
Here is what I've found based on reports, personal opinions and comments from all over the internet.

Baby 'slings' are in [u]NO WAY[/u] safer nor better for your babies development over the carrier style products.

Now I'm shocked by this next bit because after seeing some of these things in the stores I was immediately drawn towards the sling type carriers, they felt organic, more personal, as if your baby would be more comforted in a fabric sling than a big chunky unnatural backpack thing. It also just happened to be a bonus that slings are much cheaper than a lot of the carriers, which wouldn't have mattered because I'd gone in fully prepared to pay up to £150 for one of these things to make sure I got something that would be comfortable for both wearer and baby. It does puzzle me how something that is essentially a cut of fabric can still fetch upwards of £40. It would be possible to buy the materials and make one yourself very simply for less than £10. I don't advise you do that till you read the next bit.

So here it comes...

The use of baby slings in infants has resulted and still even recently in the UK is resulting in the suffocation and death of babies.

No reported deaths of a baby whilst in a carrier that I can find so far.

Several brands of sling type carriers have been recalled or taken from shelves worldwide and many health authorities have raised concerns over their safety and use in infants.

The arguments I've read in favour of slings have so far all stem from 'personal opinion' rather than any evidence, studies or facts. Notions based on intuition and what 'feels' like is better for the baby.
I can tell you now, I can find no published trial that shows slings are better for a babies development, comfort or posture over seat carrier types.

In fact, and this is my own observation not backed by actual research, but if you consider where the weight of the baby pulls in a sling and in comparison to it's upright seating position in a seat. It isn't difficult to imagine that the baby is almost 'folded' on itself. All it's weight will be pulling and resting in one position at the bottom of the sling where the entire weight of the baby will gravitate toward. In comparison, a seat puts pressure on the inside thighs but allows for a natural seating position, upright which allows for better digestion which would help with colic or regurgitation, whereas a sling provides very little support for your baby upright or horizontally. Both types allow closeness and bonding and iteration with parent. Any argument that a baby carried in a sling will have a better bond with it's mother later in life is based purely on conjecture. A baby carried in a sling can grow up to resent it's parent and tantrum and want it's independence just as much as any baby.

I honestly expected to be buying a sling carrier so I have no reason to be against them. I live organically wherever possible and I always try to remain carbon neutral wherever possible. I spend months researching things like large appliances and any big purchases before I commit and only after taking into account running costs, efficiency, features, servicing costs etc.

I don't think you can put a price on your childs safety.

I will post links to any of the relevant sites but I implore anyone who is interested in this topic to go to their favourite search engine and just type in baby carrier safety, baby sling safety, baby sling review, baby carrier review etc etc. It is always far better to discover your own findings organically than to be given snippets of information which could be biased in nature or chosen specifically to reinforce the protagonists argument.
An interesting one is Which? that shows many common mistakes that sling carriers make so if you still feel your baby is better off in one of those style, please at least make sure you're wearing it correctly and haven't just been shown by someone else who may not know better.

In terms of forward facing or backward facing, the consensus appears to be that backward facing tend to provide better support for baby and wearer. Personally I prefer a backward facing carrier anyway, just so my sister will be able to read cues from baby T and stay engaged even if she's on the phone for instance.

Again this is impossibly long but I feel that after a lot of research this may benefit someone else who doesn't have the freedom in time and resources to research as heavily as I have. Wish you all the best.
@benllfixit - I would strongly recommend that you go to websites such as naturalmamas.co.uk to further research and talk to trained babywearing consultants as I think you have lumped a lot of carriers into the 'slings' category. There have been some issues with pouch-type slings which have now been declared unsafe by the baby carrying experts (eg Trageschule) because the baby is carried in such a way that may impede breathing. These are absolutely unsafe and you will find that trained babywearing consultants do not sell and will not recommend these types of carriers. There are other 'slings' that can also be referred to as wraps that are safe and you do not carry your baby in a way that impedes the baby's anatomy in any way. It is wrong to imply (even if not meant) that *all* slings are unsafe.
The Which report was criticised by many within the babywearing community, details of which can be found on the above website.
There are many reasons why people chose to use wraps as opposed to SSC's (soft structured carriers) and a baby can be carried perfectly safely in either, given the appropriate advice. You will see from the many babywearing websites that babies that are carried in slings are not 'folded' on themselves. You may wish to look at websites such as wrapyourbaby.com - go to the menus on the left hand side and look up front wraps, back wraps. You will see there that the babies/toddlers/children are carried in upright positions that are both safe and developmentally sound with regards back development etc.
There are many websites out there, plus a whole host of highly trained babywearing instructors/experts/advisors who are more than willing to give advice. There is also a good network of sling libraries where people can go for advice and try out different carriers. Just google sling library + your area for your nearest one.
Full marks for caring but please do your homework thoroughly.
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