Innr E27 / B22 Smart, Colour, Dim-able LED bulbs compatible with Philips Hue £29.99 Sold by Innr Lighting and Fulfilled by Amazon - 40% less than Philips own bulbs
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Innr E27 / B22 Smart, Colour, Dim-able LED bulbs compatible with Philips Hue £29.99 Sold by Innr Lighting and Fulfilled by Amazon - 40% less than Philips own bulbs

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Found 17th Jan
Designed by ex-Philips employees these bulbs are described as having richer colours than Philips own hue bulbs but cost 60% of the price and, crucially, are available in a bayonet fitting as well as a screw in (amazon.co.uk/dp/…WNA?psc=1).

Can be controlled via an Amazon Echo / Dot if you have a compatible hub (e.g. Philips Hue or Zigbee).

This is the normal price but the E27's have been out of stock for a while and very difficult to get.

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Do these 'mesh' to each other for people with larger/thick walled houses where the Hubs signal cannot reach the bulbs the furthest away like the Philips ones do?

Edited by: "paulj48" 17th Jan

If you want a colour changing bulb that works with Hue, another option for £20.10 is this one from Osram:

amazon.co.uk/OSR…tch

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paulj48

Do these 'mesh' to each other for people with larger/thick walled houses … Do these 'mesh' to each other for people with larger/thick walled houses where the Hubs signal cannot reach the bulbs the furthest away like the Philips ones do?



I believe so as that is part of the Zigbee standard they operate on. However, I've heard that the genuine Philips Hue lights don't mesh with other Zigbee products so Innr bulbs would mesh with other Innr bulbs (and other Zigbee stuff) but genuine Hue bulbs will only mesh with each other. Hope that makes sense :|.

However, I can't see it being a problem - the range / penetration of a Hue hub seems very good to me. I currently have a single bulb (so no 'mesh' network yet) which is on a different floor and two thick brick walls away from the Hue hub. It hasn't missed a beat.

I'd rather hold out for the genuine thing, which has also been as cheap as £29.99 a few times (and available in bayonet mount).

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Concerned_Citizen

If you want a colour changing bulb that works with Hue, another option … If you want a colour changing bulb that works with Hue, another option for £20.10 is this one from Osram:https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSRAM-Lightify-Smart-Connected-Light/dp/B00JDJC2LO/ref=sr_1_2?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1484666248&sr=1-2&keywords=lightify+switch



Just don't go for the Lightify hub to go with it or you'll have no IFTTT support and no colour control from your Echo! Osram really need to pull their finger out...

paul_merton

I'd rather hold out for the genuine thing, which has also been as cheap … I'd rather hold out for the genuine thing, which has also been as cheap as £29.99 a few times (and available in bayonet mount).



I got sick of waiting for the deal to come back... the bayonet colour hue ones are even harder to get at a discount. There are reports that the colours are better on these than the Hue - not sure how true that is but I guess I'll be finding out tomorrow!
Edited by: "me_lee" 17th Jan

me_lee

I believe so as that is part of the Zigbee standard they operate on. … I believe so as that is part of the Zigbee standard they operate on. However, I've heard that the genuine Philips Hue lights don't mesh with other Zigbee products so Innr bulbs would mesh with other Innr bulbs (and other Zigbee stuff) but genuine Hue bulbs will only mesh with each other. Hope that makes sense :|.However, I can't see it being a problem - the range / penetration of a Hue hub seems very good to me. I currently have a single bulb (so no 'mesh' network yet) which is on a different floor and two thick brick walls away from the Hue hub. It hasn't missed a beat.


Depends on the house, mine is quite large and I use Hue lamps in my outside light fittings in the garden.

Like Paul_merton above says the genuine are on offer now and again, I've never paid more that £30 for mine.
Edited by: "paulj48" 17th Jan

Concerned_Citizen

If you want a colour changing bulb that works with Hue, another option … If you want a colour changing bulb that works with Hue, another option for £20.10 is this one from Osram:https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSRAM-Lightify-Smart-Connected-Light/dp/B00JDJC2LO/ref=sr_1_2?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1484666248&sr=1-2&keywords=lightify+switch

paul_merton

I'd rather hold out for the genuine thing, which has also been as cheap … I'd rather hold out for the genuine thing, which has also been as cheap as £29.99 a few times (and available in bayonet mount).


according to the Q & A on Amazon that's compared with the older Hue lamps, and the reply from Innr to the question sidesteps the comparison with the newest Hue lamps.

I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 GU10 bulbs, so now way am I buying all those. I'm looking at some kind of zigbee ceiling rose adapter.
I'm not saying I've found one yet. I did consider wall switches, but with no neutral in the wall in the UK and not wanting to risk the kickstarter one that doesn't require the neutral...
All I care about is on / off....dimmer would be a bonus, and not too fussed about colour.
Anyone know a suitable device?

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kencol

I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 … I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 GU10 bulbs, so now way am I buying all those. I'm looking at some kind of zigbee ceiling rose adapter.I'm not saying I've found one yet. I did consider wall switches, but with no neutral in the wall in the UK and not wanting to risk the kickstarter one that doesn't require the neutral...All I care about is on / off....dimmer would be a bonus, and not too fussed about colour.Anyone know a suitable device?



I would suggest joining and asking here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/alexafansuk/

Nearly 6,000 members and it's a friendly group with lots of knowledge. It's really an Alexa group but so many people are using their Echos for home automation that most of the questions on there are about this sort of thing.

Looks like this thread has bombed... should have posted a 15p chocolate bar instead...
Edited by: "me_lee" 17th Jan

kencol

I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 … I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 GU10 bulbs, so now way am I buying all those. I'm looking at some kind of zigbee ceiling rose adapter.I'm not saying I've found one yet. I did consider wall switches, but with no neutral in the wall in the UK and not wanting to risk the kickstarter one that doesn't require the neutral...All I care about is on / off....dimmer would be a bonus, and not too fussed about colour.Anyone know a suitable device?



Innr also do GU10 bulbs which are cheaper (£15.99) than the Philips Hue equivalent (£25).

Another option is to get a Infrared&Touch controlled light switch and use a Harmony Hub (if you have one). This can then also be used with Alexa (if that is also what you would like to do)

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kencol

I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 … I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 GU10 bulbs, so now way am I buying all those. I'm looking at some kind of zigbee ceiling rose adapter.I'm not saying I've found one yet. I did consider wall switches, but with no neutral in the wall in the UK and not wanting to risk the kickstarter one that doesn't require the neutral...All I care about is on / off....dimmer would be a bonus, and not too fussed about colour.Anyone know a suitable device?



Energenie Mi|Home is the only lightswitch I'm aware of that does not require a neutral.

You're talking about £50 for the gateway and about £25 per switch.

me_lee

Energenie Mi|Home is the only lightswitch I'm aware of that does not … Energenie Mi|Home is the only lightswitch I'm aware of that does not require a neutral.You're talking about £50 for the gateway and about £25 per switch.


you just have to make sure your existing lamps are compatible with the Energenie system, the switch doesn't actually switch the lights off, it just dims them very low to a point so you cant see them illuminated but theystill burning into their working life hours.

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paulj48

you just have to make sure your existing lamps are compatible with the … you just have to make sure your existing lamps are compatible with the Energenie system, the switch doesn't actually switch the lights off, it just dims them very low to a point so you cant see them illuminated but theystill burning into their working life hours.



Yes, I remember seeing something about this - eats very slightly into the life of the bulbs. Also, a small number of LED bulbs flicker due to the dimming nature of these.

The Kickstarter one I was talking about....
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yoswit/yoswit-reinvented-smart-wall-switch

We all have neutral in the ceiling rose, it makes more sense to put device there (or push it into ceiling cavity) than to cram it into the wall.

Kind of like this but smart (via app / alexa)
amazon.co.uk/d/S…0_4?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=KQVTP6BW6XZ6JFVVE427&th=1

There's a zwave model here http://www.vesternet.com/resources/scenarios/lighting/z-wave

I've only had the Hue hub for a day, it seems even if I can find a zigbee solution, I may not have success connecting it to the Hue hub.

I have philips and Innr and tbh as long as you dont mix them in the same room its hard to tell the difference

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kencol

The Kickstarter one I was talking … The Kickstarter one I was talking about....https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yoswit/yoswit-reinvented-smart-wall-switchWe all have neutral in the ceiling rose, it makes more sense to put device there (or push it into ceiling cavity) than to cram it into the wall.Kind of like this but smart (via app / alexa)https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Switches-Dimmers/Trust-Smart-Home-ACM-1000-Switching/B00HYEPKI2/ref=pd_sim_60_4?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=KQVTP6BW6XZ6JFVVE427&th=1There's a zwave model here http://www.vesternet.com/resources/scenarios/lighting/z-waveI've only had the Hue hub for a day, it seems even if I can find a zigbee solution, I may not have success connecting it to the Hue hub.



LightwaveRF do in line dimmers / relays as long as you can get them into your ceiling void.

http://www.lightwaverf.com/product-category/in-line-dimming-switching/

Of course it means another hub (about £45) plus either £35 for an in-line dimmer or £25 for a relay.

me_lee

LightwaveRF do in line dimmers / relays as long as you can get them into … LightwaveRF do in line dimmers / relays as long as you can get them into your ceiling void.http://www.lightwaverf.com/product-category/in-line-dimming-switching/Of course it means another hub (about £45) plus either £35 for an in-line dimmer or £25 for a relay.



Yeah, I'm thinking I bought the wrong hub here.

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Received mine - it's excellent and I'm very impressed. Feels like a quality item and is nice and bright with very vivid colours. Pairing with the hue bridge has a slightly different procedure than usual (and the instructions are just pictograms so a bit pants) but not a problem and the bulb is not "buzzy" like the Osram Lightify colour ones can be. The Hue app (and therefore IFTTT and Amazon Alexa) work perfectly with it

I would definitely be happy to buy more Innr stuff and would say this is better than the Osram bulb and as good as a Philips one - unfortunately I didn't have a colour philips one available to do a side-by-side colour comparison but I'll be surprised if the philips is any better.

me_lee

Received mine - it's excellent and I'm very impressed. Feels like a … Received mine - it's excellent and I'm very impressed. Feels like a quality item and is nice and bright with very vivid colours. Pairing with the hue bridge has a slightly different procedure than usual (and the instructions are just pictograms so a bit pants) but not a problem and the bulb is not "buzzy" like the Osram Lightify colour ones can be. The Hue app (and therefore IFTTT and Amazon Alexa) work perfectly with itI would definitely be happy to buy more Innr stuff and would say this is better than the Osram bulb and as good as a Philips one - unfortunately I didn't have a colour philips one available to do a side-by-side colour comparison but I'll be surprised if the philips is any better.



How smooth are the colour changes? With the Osram ones it's really stuttery compared to the Philips so is no good in n Ambilight setup.

kencol

I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 … I just got a hue hub, my living room light fittings have a total of 6 GU10 bulbs, so now way am I buying all those. I'm looking at some kind of zigbee ceiling rose adapter.I'm not saying I've found one yet. I did consider wall switches, but with no neutral in the wall in the UK and not wanting to risk the kickstarter one that doesn't require the neutral...All I care about is on / off....dimmer would be a bonus, and not too fussed about colour.Anyone know a suitable device?



Take a look at Broadlink TC2 switches and the RM Pro controller (which does RF & IR).

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spruceyb

How smooth are the colour changes? With the Osram ones it's really … How smooth are the colour changes? With the Osram ones it's really stuttery compared to the Philips so is no good in n Ambilight setup.


I only did a limited amount of messing about but seemed very smooth to me.

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Still waiting for the genuine Phillips bulbs to be available for £30 like the cold voters were talking about... (_;)
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