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Posted 6th JanShipping from Singapore

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One of the most robust e-scooters on the market.
People who've imported with these guys on reddit say a 20% charge can be applied when the scooter enters the UK for VAT (not sure if that will be the case here). Even if it is, that brings the price to £540, which is still hugely reduced and a very nice saving!

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Foreign company, so they haven't displayed Warning.
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 07:41

Foreign company, so they haven't displayed Warning.


They have two shops. One in London and one in Brighton.
Their scooter's are superb BUT expensive.
gainsay06/01/2020 08:01

They have two shops. One in London and one in Brighton.Their scooter's are …They have two shops. One in London and one in Brighton.Their scooter's are superb BUT expensive.


This vendor is not regarded as "responsible" by the British government: "It is not illegal to sell powered transporters, but responsible vendors will give customers accurate information about the legal restrictions on their use."
Edited by: "The_Name_With_No_Man" 6th Jan
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 08:06

This vendor is not regarded as "responsible" by the British government: …This vendor is not regarded as "responsible" by the British government: "It is not illegal to sell powered transporters, but responsible vendors will give customers accurate information about the legal restrictions on their use."

I think purchasers are aware of the law regarding these things.
On this forum alone there is always someone banging on about it. ?.
Have UK.gov singled out in their busy schedule Inokim scooters for censure?
gainsay06/01/2020 08:16

I think purchasers are aware of the law regarding these things. On this …I think purchasers are aware of the law regarding these things. On this forum alone there is always someone banging on about it. 😏.Have UK.gov singled out in their busy schedule Inokim scooters for censure?


Most are aware, but in the past people have posted here to say that they hadn't known, which is why the government expects "responsible vendors" to place a warning in their advertisements, which this vendor (Indiegogo, not Inokim) fails to do. I am not concerned about those who are aware learning this information twice, but about people who may be contemplating purchase without knowing the legal position.
Edited by: "The_Name_With_No_Man" 6th Jan
Can I use this on the M25?
GeekUnique06/01/2020 08:49

Can I use this on the M25?


Buying any stand up e scooter or any micromobility device now is a waste of money.

One of two things will happen in the next 12-18 months posts the Govt investigation:-

1/ Thier illegal use in public will be reconfirmed and the Police will come down hard almost overnight.
2/ They will be authorized but only certain models that meet very strict criteria as seen in Singapore and the Netherlands. Many of the policies below will be implemented The Police will come down very hard on miscreants.

If escooters are ever authorized, bear in mind the following that have been seen abroad:-
Very tough design and operational requirements that will render existing devices illegal.
All devices to be registered.
All devices and riders to be insured.
Registration plates to be shown.
Lights and reflectors to be installed and the former used.
CBT to be undertaken and theory test passed.
Helmets to be compulsory.
Speed limit of 25kmh.
Minimum age 16.
Banned on pavements and on roads with over a 30 mph speed limit.
Possible ban in taking them on public transport.
All alcohol and drug laws applicable.
All powered vehicle driving laws applicable.

.....and so on.

Save your money. Wait until the position is clarified.
Edited by: "dothedealnow" 6th Jan
dothedealnow06/01/2020 09:15

Buying any stand up e scooter or any micromobility device now is a waste …Buying any stand up e scooter or any micromobility device now is a waste of money.One of two things will happen in the next 12-18 months posts the Govt investigation:-1/ Thier illegal use in public will be reconfirmed and the Police will come down hard almost overnight.2/ They will be authorized but only certain models that meet very strict criteria as seen in Singapore and the Netherlands. Many of the policies below will be implemented The Police will come down very hard on miscreants.If escooters are ever authorized, bear in mind the following that have been seen abroad:-Very tough design and operational requirements that will render existing devices illegal.All devices to be registered.All devices and riders to be insured.Registration plates to be shown.Lights and reflectors to be installed and the former used.CBT to be undertaken and theory test passed.Helmets to be compulsory.Speed limit of 25kmh.Minimum age 16.Banned on pavements and on roads with over a 30 mph speed limit.Possible ban in taking them on public transport.All alcohol and drug laws applicable.All powered vehicle driving laws applicable......and so on.Save your money. Wait until the position is clarified.


Isn’t the M25 fairly smart? I guess at minimum I can stick to the bumpy ride of private land so long at the landlord gives me the nod. I guess less pot holes...
Edited by: "GeekUnique" 6th Jan
gainsay06/01/2020 08:01

They have two shops. One in London and one in Brighton.Their scooter's are …They have two shops. One in London and one in Brighton.Their scooter's are superb BUT expensive.


That's a lot of cash to spend for a toy to use on private land?
dothedealnow06/01/2020 09:20

That's a lot of cash to spend for a toy to use on private land?


Not much more than a night out in London?
You can see the sort of issues that the Singaporean Government highlighted with existing scooters here. singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/e-scooter-laws-singapore

If you click on the link at the top you can see model names and numbers in the PDF. Obviously model names are likely to have been changed for other markets, much like cars!

The 2019 MY Inokim Light 2 appears to be Singapore LTA approved but of course that's not guarantee that it will be approved in the UK.
Edited by: "dothedealnow" 6th Jan
dothedealnow06/01/2020 09:15

Buying any stand up e scooter or any micromobility device now is a waste …Buying any stand up e scooter or any micromobility device now is a waste of money.One of two things will happen in the next 12-18 months posts the Govt investigation:-1/ Thier illegal use in public will be reconfirmed and the Police will come down hard almost overnight.2/ They will be authorized but only certain models that meet very strict criteria as seen in Singapore and the Netherlands. Many of the policies below will be implemented The Police will come down very hard on miscreants.If escooters are ever authorized, bear in mind the following that have been seen abroad:-Very tough design and operational requirements that will render existing devices illegal.All devices to be registered.All devices and riders to be insured.Registration plates to be shown.Lights and reflectors to be installed and the former used.CBT to be undertaken and theory test passed.Helmets to be compulsory.Speed limit of 25kmh.Minimum age 16.Banned on pavements and on roads with over a 30 mph speed limit.Possible ban in taking them on public transport.All alcohol and drug laws applicable.All powered vehicle driving laws applicable......and so on.Save your money. Wait until the position is clarified.


you’ll be wrong about most of this, only the 25km/h limit is likely. lets revisit in a year or so
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 09:40

you’ll be wrong about most of this, only the 25km/h limit is likely. lets r …you’ll be wrong about most of this, only the 25km/h limit is likely. lets revisit in a year or so


No, I won't.
Plenty of precedent in Netherlands, France, Germany, Singapore, New York City and existing UK legislation.
It's pretty obvious that the very Health and Safety conscious, risk averse UK with some of the toughest motoring laws globally will ensure that all micro mobility devices are as safe as possible for riders and other road users.
dothedealnow06/01/2020 09:50

No, I won't.Plenty of precedent in Netherlands, France, Germany, …No, I won't.Plenty of precedent in Netherlands, France, Germany, Singapore, New York City and existing UK legislation.It's pretty obvious that the very Health and Safety conscious, risk averse UK with some of the toughest motoring laws globally will ensure that all micro mobility devices are as safe as possible for riders and other road users.


indeed, lets see. I ride an ebike in london and see chaps cruising past police at 35mph daily using 1000w motors. I think you have a very unusual sense of what police pay attention to. Ebike’s at that speed are illegal, by the way.
Edited by: "zeb.mattey" 6th Jan
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zeb.mattey06/01/2020 09:51

indeed, lets see. I ride an ebike in london and see chaps cruising past …indeed, lets see. I ride an ebike in london and see chaps cruising past police at 35mph daily using 1000w motors. I think you have a very unusual sense of what police pay attention to. Ebike’s at that speed are illegal, by the way.


As I clearly mentioned, when the Govt have finished thier review on micro mobility devices, probably in the next 12-18 months then there'll be a real clampdown on escooters.
I really don't care about your opinion on a completely different class of machine which is electrically assisted not electrically powered. Two completely different things under UK law.
dothedealnow06/01/2020 09:59

As I clearly mentioned, when the Govt have finished thier review on micro …As I clearly mentioned, when the Govt have finished thier review on micro mobility devices, probably in the next 12-18 months then there'll be a real clampdown on escooters.I really don't care about your opinion on a completely different class of machine which is electrically assisted not electrically powered. Two completely different things under UK law.


These ebikes are throttles. The rider clearly doesnt cycle, they just blitz around by 35mph. Ive been cycling in london daily for a very long time and never seen a policeman stop one.

Anyway, lets just wait and see!

Based on what I see daily on the roads there will be no crackdown, just an barely enforced speed limit. The police arent wasting time now (theyre illegal, by the way) and they wont in the future.

But lets check this in 12 months, perhaps you’ll be right
Edited by: "zeb.mattey" 6th Jan
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 10:00

These ebikes are throttles. The rider clearly doesnt cycle, they just …These ebikes are throttles. The rider clearly doesnt cycle, they just blitz around by 35mph. Ive been cycling in london daily for a very long time and never seen a policeman stop one. Anyway, lets just wait and see! Based on what I see daily on the roads there will be no crackdown, just an barely enforced speed limit. The police arent wasting time now (theyre illegal, by the way) and they wont in the future.But lets check this in 12 months, perhaps you’ll be right


"Speed limits are designed for motor vehicles. Rule 124 of the Highway Code sets limits for various vehicles, which MUST be complied with. Bicycles are not included. While you can't normally be charged for speeding on a bicycle, you could be charged for careless cycling instead.20 Apr 2017"

I trust and hope your points about speeding e-bikes will be sorted in the near future and they too are subject to at least speed limits and have the throttle removed.

However people riding throttled e-bikes around doesn't justify escooter use. Bit of a lemming issue.
Edited by: "dothedealnow" 6th Jan
dothedealnow06/01/2020 10:07

"Speed limits are designed for motor vehicles. Rule 124 of the Highway …"Speed limits are designed for motor vehicles. Rule 124 of the Highway Code sets limits for various vehicles, which MUST be complied with. Bicycles are not included. While you can't normally be charged for speeding on a bicycle, you could be charged for careless cycling instead.20 Apr 2017"I trust and hope your points about speeding e-bikes will be sorted in the near future and they to are subject to at least speed limits and have the throttle removed.


Nothing will be done dude. I see them several times a day, ive seen them go past police. Nobody cares, most deliveroo riders here now have 500w motor ebikes which are completely illegal.

I ride 1.5h a day, I havent seen a single rider stopped let alone arrested.

So it should be, theyre much better for all of us. No noise pollution or local pollution, and less congestion
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 10:09

Nothing will be done dude. I see them several times a day, ive seen them …Nothing will be done dude. I see them several times a day, ive seen them go past police. Nobody cares, most deliveroo riders here now have 500w motor ebikes which are completely illegal.I ride 1.5h a day, I havent seen a single rider stopped let alone arrested.So it should be, theyre much better for all of us. No noise pollution or local pollution, and less congestion


It will change when the law is clarified and the status of powered, power assisted vehicles is sorted.
The motorbike helmet law was charged in 73. Many folks at the time said nothing would change. It did.
There is plenty of precedence and the fact you don't see Police acting now will change dramatically in the near future.
dothedealnow06/01/2020 10:13

It will change when the law is clarified and the status of powered, power …It will change when the law is clarified and the status of powered, power assisted vehicles is sorted.The motorbike helmet law was charged in 73. Many folks at the time said nothing would change. It did.There is plenty of precedence and the fact you don't see Police acting now will change dramatically in the near future.


Dude the law for ebikes is very clear, any motor above 250w is illegal, any assisted speed above 25km/h is illegal.

This law is defined, thought out and well understood. Nobody is enforcing it, nobody cares.

There is as far as I can tell no effort to review the law on ebikes either, its a fairly standard european law. Its completely clear on ebikes, purely powered (throttle) bikes are illegal above 250w.

Im not sure what clarification you’re waiting for?

Go down to Camberwell green on a friday night, 10+ deliveroo drivers on their bikes congregate there picking up from mcdonalds. Ask them the wattage on their bikes, they ride 100km a night or more even, and have never been stopped by a policeman. They ride modified bikes with motos upwards of 1000W.
Edited by: "zeb.mattey" 6th Jan
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 10:16

Dude the law for ebikes is very clear, any motor above 250w is illegal, …Dude the law for ebikes is very clear, any motor above 250w is illegal, any assisted speed above 25km/h is illegal.This law is defined, thought out and well understood. Nobody is enforcing it, nobody cares.There is as far as I can tell no effort to review the law on ebikes either, its a fairly standard european law. Its completely clear on ebikes, purely powered (throttle) bikes are illegal above 250w.Im not sure what clarification you’re waiting for?Go down to Camberwell green on a friday night, 10+ deliveroo drivers on their bikes congregate there picking up from mcdonalds. Ask them the wattage on their bikes, they ride 100km a night or more even, and have never been stopped by a policeman. They ride modified bikes with motos upwards of 1000W.


I'm not sure how we got from e scooters to e-bikes, two completely different classes of device. I'm not particularly interested in the latter.
My point on escooters is that being electrically powered and easily identifiable, they will be outlawed or heavily restricted in the next 12-18 months.

However on e-bikes when we leave the EU hopefully we'll follow NIs law on e-bikes where e-bikers have to hold a moped licence, register the bike with the DVLA, insure it and wear a motorcycle helmet.
Edited by: "dothedealnow" 6th Jan
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 10:16

Im not sure what clarification you’re waiting for


This one will do for now.

As for the police not prosecuting, sometimes they do, and they can hit you with £300 and six points on a fixed penalty notice, and seize the scooter, for driving without insurance, with no possibility of your defending.
dothedealnow06/01/2020 10:26

I'm not sure how we got from e scooters to e-bikes, two completely …I'm not sure how we got from e scooters to e-bikes, two completely different classes of device. I'm not particularly interested in the latter.My point on escooters is that being electrically powered and easily identifiable, they will be outlawed or heavily restricted in the next 12-18 months.



Because you have this idea that laws are going to be enforced on E-vehicles with an iron first. I personally don't see that at all, and I see 1000W ebikes daily.

When you buy these 1000W ebikes online its the same as escooters, 'only drive on private land these are illegal' etc.

gov.uk/ele…les

Regulations are very clear. Police do not enforce this, at all, ever, nobody cares. Presumably they have more pressing issues than e-vehicles going at small velocities.

But lets just wait and see, I've got my own idea of what will happen (based on ebikes) but you may be right, perhaps the government and police will do a u turn on escooters.
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 10:27

This one will do for now.As for the police not prosecuting, sometimes they …This one will do for now.As for the police not prosecuting, sometimes they do, and they can hit you with £300 and six points on a fixed penalty notice, and seize the scooter, for driving without insurance, with no possibility of your defending.


And another blitz is overdue. Wasn't the last one mid year in London?
dothedealnow06/01/2020 10:32

And another blitz is overdue. Wasn't the last one mid year in London?


Yes, prompted by a B-list celebrity dying on an escooter. Something similar is likely to happen again, and as soon as it is in the news the police will suddenly start doing their jobs, for a while. It's an easy bust for them.
Edited by: "The_Name_With_No_Man" 6th Jan
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 10:38

Yes, prompted by a B-list celebrity dying on an escooter. Something …Yes, prompted by a B-list celebrity dying on an escooter. Something similar is likely to happen again, and as soon as it is in the news the police will suddenly start doing their jobs, for a while. It's an easy bust for them.


I remember, some social media "influencer" who thought she was entitled to ride her new escooter on the road then got totalled by an HGV. Am sure this will be the first of many until the law and it's enforcement are changed.
Lee_Bolding06/01/2020 09:53

Avoid buying anything from IndieGoGo - the company is not at all …Avoid buying anything from IndieGoGo - the company is not at all reputable. The company doesn't accept any responsibility if campaigns break their rules, or even if they fail to deliver. In fact, once a campaign signals that it "intends to deliver" all funds are transferred to the campaign, and all responsibility (both from IndieGoGo and the campaign) disappear. There's literally no reason that a campaign should ever deliver - they get their funds regardlessCheck out the Vinpok Split campaign for a real world example Vinpok was promoted as a "featured" campaign by IndieGoGo, it raised something like £2M - and the campaign took the money and disappeared. IndieGoGo refuses any responsibility even though Vinpok has broken the rules for a campaign (lied about it's origin - it's not in USA, failed to updated sponsors regularly, fails to respond to enquiries). IndieGoGo themselves promoted the campaign as one of their featured campaigns, yet refuses responsibility to failing to perform basic due diligence When this happens, section 75 of your credit card won't protect you - the relationship is between card company and IndieGoGo, not card company and the campaignStick to Kickstarter - they're more reputable, and offer greater protections


So true ref IndieGoGo. I won’t touch them with a barge pole after being stung. Threatened card action and they really didn’t want to know at all. It would appear to me that there is no duty of care towards the consumer. Only lost £60 but they won’t get anything more from me.
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 10:09

Nothing will be done dude. I see them several times a day, ive seen them …Nothing will be done dude. I see them several times a day, ive seen them go past police. Nobody cares, most deliveroo riders here now have 500w motor ebikes which are completely illegal.I ride 1.5h a day, I havent seen a single rider stopped let alone arrested.So it should be, theyre much better for all of us. No noise pollution or local pollution, and less congestion


See plenty too in my local town plus up in the big smoke. Usually ridden responsibly and mindful of others and police tend to recognise this pragmatically.
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 10:38

Yes, prompted by a B-list celebrity dying on an escooter. Something …Yes, prompted by a B-list celebrity dying on an escooter. Something similar is likely to happen again, and as soon as it is in the news the police will suddenly start doing their jobs, for a while. It's an easy bust for them.


Right, and the fifteen cyclists in london in similar incidents who die a year have lead to bikes being banned...oh wait...
GeekUnique06/01/2020 11:46

See plenty too in my local town plus up in the big smoke. Usually ridden …See plenty too in my local town plus up in the big smoke. Usually ridden responsibly and mindful of others and police tend to recognise this pragmatically.


precisely
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 10:38

Yes, prompted by a B-list celebrity dying on an escooter. Something …Yes, prompted by a B-list celebrity dying on an escooter. Something similar is likely to happen again, and as soon as it is in the news the police will suddenly start doing their jobs, for a while. It's an easy bust for them.


I know the roundabout that occurred on. Go check out the case and google earth. When I’ve used it I always give way to other vehicles especially when their mass is significantly bigger...physics of survival
Edited by: "GeekUnique" 6th Jan
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 11:47

Right, and the fifteen cyclists in london in similar incidents who die a …Right, and the fifteen cyclists in london in similar incidents who die a year have lead to bikes being banned...oh wait...



Not relevant. Bicycles are not illegal to ride, so there is no possibility of a "crackdown" on cyclists just for riding them. Escooter riders have a target on their backs.
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 12:05

Not relevant. Bicycles are not illegal to ride, so there is no possibility …Not relevant. Bicycles are not illegal to ride, so there is no possibility of a "crackdown" on cyclists just for riding them. Escooter riders have a target on their backs.


Absolutely agree on escooters. All it will take is one more death, major injury, a knee jerk reaction and then all powered escooterists and indeed anyone on any micromobility platform will get stopped and charged. The email to all UK Police forces is probably already drafted.
Happened in Singapore where use is severely restricted after deaths and accidents and NYC when they were allowed then banned on safety grounds.
zeb.mattey06/01/2020 11:47

Right, and the fifteen cyclists in london in similar incidents who die a …Right, and the fifteen cyclists in london in similar incidents who die a year have lead to bikes being banned...oh wait...


Do the maths. There are far, far more cyclists in London than escooterists. Your point is moot. Oh and cycling is legal.
GeekUnique06/01/2020 11:46

See plenty too in my local town plus up in the big smoke. Usually ridden …See plenty too in my local town plus up in the big smoke. Usually ridden responsibly and mindful of others and police tend to recognise this pragmatically.


They will do until:-

The next death or injury.
Until legislation is passed allowing them or totally banning post the Government's current investigation of micro mobility.
dothedealnow06/01/2020 12:49

Happened in Singapore where use is severely restricted after deaths and …Happened in Singapore where use is severely restricted after deaths and accidents and NYC when they were allowed then banned on safety grounds.


In San Francisco, the rented ones became such a nuisance that they banned the rental firms and imposed conditions, which I am not sure any have yet met. You are supposed to have a drivers licence and a helmet to ride them as well.
The_Name_With_No_Man06/01/2020 15:08

In San Francisco, the rented ones became such a nuisance that they banned …In San Francisco, the rented ones became such a nuisance that they banned the rental firms and imposed conditions, which I am not sure any have yet met. You are supposed to have a drivers licence and a helmet to ride them as well.


Surprised they're any use in SF. When I was there I just remember the hills in the City!
The man with no name do you like escooters I’m not sure or are you sitting on the fence
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