Intel Core i7-8700 8th Gen S1151 3.20GHz 12MB Cache Coffee Lake at BT Shop, £213.48 with delivery
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Intel Core i7-8700 8th Gen S1151 3.20GHz 12MB Cache Coffee Lake at BT Shop, £213.48 with delivery

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Found 10th Nov
The new non-unlocked-multiplier (i.e. non-K suffix) Coffee Lake i7 released last month. Much cheaper than other retailers, except there isn't any stock. My order status says the supplier will give new stock on 20th Nov.

1-3 day shipping for £3.49, so it's £293.78 with delivery

It's £327.49 at Scan right now, but out of stock there too.
scan.co.uk/pro…65w


More details:
ark.intel.com/pro…GHz

"Ordered upon request" = No Chance.
26 Comments

Why do assume this is available ..... when it hardly is anywhere .. and it says "due date unavailable ?"
Edited by: "Hredknapp" 10th Nov

Hredknapp10 m ago

Why do assume this is available ..... when it hardly is anywhere .. and it …Why do assume this is available ..... when it hardly is anywhere .. and it says "due date unavailable ?"


"Ordered upon request" whether this happens or not, I can't tell you.

Mac33121 h, 50 m ago

"Ordered upon request" whether this happens or not, I can't tell you.


I have never seen one of these deals delivered from BT/Dabs.
It's code for Forget about it and the Mods should delete all these types of BT deals as they are just free advertising with zero proof that they will ever be delivered. /rant over

Just my opinion... Get a Ryzen 7, they are actually in-stock, you can overclock all of them, they are plenty fast and the motherboards are cheaper.
Edited by: "Gormond" 10th Nov

Gormond11 m ago

Just my opinion... Get a Ryzen 7, they are actually in-stock, you can …Just my opinion... Get a Ryzen 7, they are actually in-stock, you can overclock all of them, they are plenty fast and the motherboards are cheaper.


No doubt the Ryzens are great, but getting the right RAM can be a pain, even now after all the BIOS and microcode updates.

With Intel you can be almost certain any RAM you drop in will just work. For me, its worth paying £20 more for similar performance:

i5 8400 (£180) + Asrock Z370 Pro 4 (£110) = £290
vs
Ryzen 5 1600 (£188) + Asrock AB350 Pro4 (£84) = £272
Edited by: "Immotek" 10th Nov

I tried some rubbish old crucial 2400 in my R7 and it was fine, infact said ram was flakey in my skylake machines. I think its only a bit questionable if you try to go 3k+ on non samsung b die. I got 3200 straight out on b die.

And dont forget the cooler, +30 or 40 quid i imagine to cool the i5.

Coffee lake has been a joke. The performance and RRP is ok (rivalling AMD value) but can we get one for that?

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Mac33124 h, 59 m ago

"Ordered upon request" whether this happens or not, I can't tell you.

It didn't say that when I ordered it! My first order from BT Shop though... Hope it ends up being shipped

Very clever of Intel to do a paper launch just as an AMD spoiler. Nice of them not to help with the release of the B motherboards to make sure you have to buy an expensive z series. Might be a good chip, but not really a deal if you cnat get hold of one.

Immotek2 h, 24 m ago

No doubt the Ryzens are great, but getting the right RAM can be a pain, …No doubt the Ryzens are great, but getting the right RAM can be a pain, even now after all the BIOS and microcode updates.With Intel you can be almost certain any RAM you drop in will just work. For me, its worth paying £20 more for similar performance:i5 8400 (£180) + Asrock Z370 Pro 4 (£110) = £290 vsRyzen 5 1600 (£188) + Asrock AB350 Pro4 (£84) = £272


Isn't this because most companies make themselves compatible with intel as they control 90+% of the market?

For me this is a reason not to buy intel next time - this comes from a happy 6600k owner.
Edited by: "Gormond" 11th Nov

r200ti2 h, 17 m ago

I tried some rubbish old crucial 2400 in my R7 and it was fine, infact …I tried some rubbish old crucial 2400 in my R7 and it was fine, infact said ram was flakey in my skylake machines. I think its only a bit questionable if you try to go 3k+ on non samsung b die. I got 3200 straight out on b die. And dont forget the cooler, +30 or 40 quid i imagine to cool the i5. Coffee lake has been a joke. The performance and RRP is ok (rivalling AMD value) but can we get one for that?


What are you talking about? The 'Ram issue' with AMD Ryzen is that if you use low speed RAM, e.g. 2400, it makes the performance of the 'infinity fabric' and the inter chip latency absolutely awful.

You don't need a cooler with the 8700, 8400, or 8100. They are not overclocked and run absolutely perfect under stock cooling.

I really don't get why you think coffee lake has been a joke when they have been reviewed all around the web extremely positively, especially the 8400.

999tigger1 h, 17 m ago

Very clever of Intel to do a paper launch just as an AMD spoiler. Nice of …Very clever of Intel to do a paper launch just as an AMD spoiler. Nice of them not to help with the release of the B motherboards to make sure you have to buy an expensive z series. Might be a good chip, but not really a deal if you cnat get hold of one.


It's not a paper launch, just a poplar one. I literally built an 8700k based PC last night. Took a week to get here, wasn't a hassle.

Some people keep calling it a paper launch, yet you can still buy them. That's pretty much exactly what a paper launch isn't.

They are just in demand because 6 cores at a good price and intel quality is hard to beat.

250 degress. Well done. I'm snowed under right now but my mate said he'd get me a new Xbox for a tenner. Could you do me a favour and post it up as a deal here, could you?

Nate14927 h, 43 m ago

What are you talking about? The 'Ram issue' with AMD Ryzen is that if you …What are you talking about? The 'Ram issue' with AMD Ryzen is that if you use low speed RAM, e.g. 2400, it makes the performance of the 'infinity fabric' and the inter chip latency absolutely awful.You don't need a cooler with the 8700, 8400, or 8100. They are not overclocked and run absolutely perfect under stock cooling.I really don't get why you think coffee lake has been a joke when they have been reviewed all around the web extremely positively, especially the 8400.


I was talking about, as was the post i was refering to, compatibility. I tried some ram that has compatibility issues on skylake in a ryzen build and it worked OK
I think youve got a bit excited with your intel propaganda and didnt follow the thread.


Anyway Speed doesnt make a massive difference. Your looking at a few percent
My cinebench scores were virtually identical and games i just didnt notice any difference between 2400 and 3200.
TBH with current RAM prices i think its probably a bit silly to go for the high end stuff.

Nate14927 h, 49 m ago

It's not a paper launch, just a poplar one. I literally built an 8700k …It's not a paper launch, just a poplar one. I literally built an 8700k based PC last night. Took a week to get here, wasn't a hassle.Some people keep calling it a paper launch, yet you can still buy them. That's pretty much exactly what a paper launch isn't.They are just in demand because 6 cores at a good price and intel quality is hard to beat.



The i7-8700k isn't leading any of the sales charts I can see from Amazon to Mindfactory. In fact the i7-8700k is being out sold by the i7-7700k. Why? Because the i7-7700k is actually in stock and the i7-8700k is still in extremely short supply, 5-weeks after its paper-launch.

Nate14928 h, 12 m ago

It's not a paper launch, just a poplar one. I literally built an 8700k …It's not a paper launch, just a poplar one. I literally built an 8700k based PC last night. Took a week to get here, wasn't a hassle.Some people keep calling it a paper launch, yet you can still buy them. That's pretty much exactly what a paper launch isn't.They are just in demand because 6 cores at a good price and intel quality is hard to beat.


paper launch

a release of a product, especially a computer component, in extremely limited quant-ties, making it very difficult for consumers to get their hands on. the purpose of this is generally for a company to be able to say “we have the fastest chip”, before they can actually produce large numbers of them.

Firejack1 h, 52 m ago

The i7-8700k isn't leading any of the sales charts I can see from Amazon …The i7-8700k isn't leading any of the sales charts I can see from Amazon to Mindfactory. In fact the i7-8700k is being out sold by the i7-7700k. Why? Because the i7-7700k is actually in stock and the i7-8700k is still in extremely short supply, 5-weeks after its paper-launch.


It is in short supply and the price is high.

But you *can* get stock.

The 7700k is a good processor still and a reasonable value at the 275 mark.

999tigger1 h, 29 m ago

paper launcha release of a product, especially a computer component, in …paper launcha release of a product, especially a computer component, in extremely limited quant-ties, making it very difficult for consumers to get their hands on. the purpose of this is generally for a company to be able to say “we have the fastest chip”, before they can actually produce large numbers of them.



Yet, I literally got one in a week. And you can too. It was not hard. It was not extremely limited.

r200ti2 h, 7 m ago

I was talking about, as was the post i was refering to, compatibility. I …I was talking about, as was the post i was refering to, compatibility. I tried some ram that has compatibility issues on skylake in a ryzen build and it worked OKI think youve got a bit excited with your intel propaganda and didnt follow the thread. Anyway Speed doesnt make a massive difference. Your looking at a few percentMy cinebench scores were virtually identical and games i just didnt notice any difference between 2400 and 3200. TBH with current RAM prices i think its probably a bit silly to go for the high end stuff.


I followed the thread, but trying to claim Crucial ram is 'rubbish' is a bit silly.

When you can buy 2400 RAM for 120 quid and 3200 RAM for 145, and you can find quite a few games that do indeed get 10-20% increases in the Ryzen architecture... And you see smaller performance increases in the Intel, it's clear the RAM is important.

And yes, I've heard of compatability issues with Ryzen RAM, and just because your experience was fine, doesn't put to bed the loud discourse happening about compatability.

r200ti3 h, 36 m ago

I was talking about, as was the post i was refering to, compatibility. I …I was talking about, as was the post i was refering to, compatibility. I tried some ram that has compatibility issues on skylake in a ryzen build and it worked OKI think youve got a bit excited with your intel propaganda and didnt follow the thread. Anyway Speed doesnt make a massive difference. Your looking at a few percentMy cinebench scores were virtually identical and games i just didnt notice any difference between 2400 and 3200. TBH with current RAM prices i think its probably a bit silly to go for the high end stuff.


This isnt accurate.

As a lot of sources have confirmed, RAM speed affects Ryzen disproportionately due to the InfinityFabric interconnect they use.

The performance gain:cost per unit is not worth it >3200 Mhz, but between 2400 and 3200, absolutely makes a difference.

For the sake of balance, it also does affect the Coffee Lake CPU's but not as much as Ryzen.

Nate14924 h, 20 m ago

It is in short supply and the price is high.But you *can* get stock.The …It is in short supply and the price is high.But you *can* get stock.The 7700k is a good processor still and a reasonable value at the 275 mark.Yet, I literally got one in a week. And you can too. It was not hard. It was not extremely limited.


reasonable value for a 4 core processor ..... lol

The stock levels are extremely sparse which is incredibly poor. However I will be waiting for Coffee lake for my overdue upgrade. The i5 8400 (£170) that comes with a stock cooler, out performs the Ryzen 1800x (£400+) in basically every gaming bench mark (google it!) and from a personal perspective that’s all I’m interested in. I’m no fan boy, but if you can afford to wait and are purely after Gaming performance it’s a no brainier from me

Hredknapp11th Nov

reasonable value for a 4 core processor ..... lol


I mean, if you think cores are that important, take a peak into door number 1: Bulldozer wants a word with you.

The G4560 does very well for a bargain price too.

Nate149211 h, 14 m ago

I mean, if you think cores are that important, take a peak into door …I mean, if you think cores are that important, take a peak into door number 1: Bulldozer wants a word with you.The G4560 does very well for a bargain price too.


That's a terrible argument and you know it. He's talking in the context of processors that have more cores and also make good performance gains because of those cores, which Bulldozer didn't and no one has mentioned in this thread because it's irrelevant.

Keydogg29 m ago

That's a terrible argument and you know it. He's talking in the context of …That's a terrible argument and you know it. He's talking in the context of processors that have more cores and also make good performance gains because of those cores, which Bulldozer didn't and no one has mentioned in this thread because it's irrelevant.


No, he's trying to discredit a quality processor simply based on the number of cores, and YOU know it.

In fact, I think it's pretty crazy that you are even *suggesting* Hredknapp had a well formed discussion point.

The i7 7700k is either the second or third best gaming CPU out there today. Companies make the majority of software that uses 1, 2 or 4 cores.

People laughing about number of cores and praising how great more CPU cores are, either are actual professional video editors, or are simply naive enough to think that 'more cores is faster'.

Price has crept up to £309.99

I have got one on order from Amazon at £269 and another one from the BT Shop at £290. Lets see which comes first.
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