Intel i5 Quad-Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Skylake Processor CPU £129.00 Amazon
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Intel i5 Quad-Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Skylake Processor CPU £129.00 Amazon

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No way this should be cold
i3 6100 for £95 or this i5-6400
is this skylake?
copystuff

i3 6100 for £95 or this i5-6400


That's EXACTLY what I've been thinking too...
I'm so close to get myself the i3, but this can change my course of action.
Anyone any input?
Catsy

is this skylake?


Yes, it is Sir. 14nm, 65W TDP.
More info: ark.intel.com/pro…GHz
Depends on the use of it to what you need if your just Web browsing i3 if you use music software or games even lighter games like click and find or you have kids or grandkids then I would say i5 with the bit extra for the power u can get
LucasZ

That's EXACTLY what I've been thinking too...I'm so close to get myself … That's EXACTLY what I've been thinking too...I'm so close to get myself the i3, but this can change my course of action.Anyone any input?


around £35 difference but over kill for what i need but it will have 4 cores and not 2 but just not sure i want to pay the difference
Lots cheaper than overclockers price of £160
only 2 in stock but more on the way
sweet price for a skylake cpu
If I was to upgrade from an fx6300 system would I notice that much of a performance increase with this processor (particularly for gaming)? Never the less have put it into flubit to see what they come out with, thanks op
Good price considering the 4460 is around £140.
Have some heat for the deal!

Granted it's the cheapest i5 processor available - it's also has the lowest non-turbo Ghz...
It'll turbo to 3.3Ghz on a single core though...
I think the only downside is the DDR4 RAM requirement (theres about a fiver difference between DDR3, it's just not as widely available)

Pentium i5?! No such thing, another Amazon CPU listing mess. One of their other Core i5 6400 listings shows a picture of 6600K with the word unlocked on it. That listing has it at £151. Both dispatched and sold by Amazon. Last month they had a listing for a 6600K at a good price but customers received the non-K locked versions and were not happy. Amazon finally dropped the K from the listing but the angry comments are still there.

In this listing, Amazon also mis-identify the CPU as having Iris graphics. It doesn't, you only get Intel HD Graphics 530. At far as I can see, the BX80662I56400 box number for this deal is correct for a Core i5 6400, so hopefully that's what you get. Have some heat.
£124.33 delivered with flubit
copystuff

around £35 difference but over kill for what i need but it will have 4 … around £35 difference but over kill for what i need but it will have 4 cores and not 2 but just not sure i want to pay the difference Lots cheaper than overclockers price of £160



Overkill for now, but should last longer as general software becomes more taxing etc.
What's the best DDR4 RAM to buy? There are so many speeds! It wasn't like this when I built my last PC X)
B*ollock, just bought a lga 1150 motherboard.
Where are the deals for Haswell cpu's?
OOS?
This is a fantastic price for this CPU, I decided on the i3 6100 though for the wife's PC. The main reason been that the i3 is faster in most scenarios other than heavily multi threaded programs. Single threaded though and the i3 wins which is where performance matters to me the most, also the i3 is still around £35 cheaper. At the end of the day it depends on your needs but for me the i3 still wins this chip over.
Catsy

is this skylake?



I know there is a cloud in the sky, but I never heard of a lake in the sky
h4hassan

I know there is a cloud in the sky, but I never heard of a lake in the … I know there is a cloud in the sky, but I never heard of a lake in the sky


how embarrassing
LazybeatX

This is a fantastic price for this CPU, I decided on the i3 6100 though … This is a fantastic price for this CPU, I decided on the i3 6100 though for the wife's PC. The main reason been that the i3 is faster in most scenarios other than heavily multi threaded programs. Single threaded though and the i3 wins which is where performance matters to me the most, also the i3 is still around £35 cheaper. At the end of the day it depends on your needs but for me the i3 still wins this chip over.




where did you get that info?
Bilj

If I was to upgrade from an fx6300 system would I notice that much of a … If I was to upgrade from an fx6300 system would I notice that much of a performance increase with this processor (particularly for gaming)? Never the less have put it into flubit to see what they come out with, thanks op



​yes it would absolutely be a noticeable difference, would expect on par real world and gaming performance to some of the fx8xxx chips, only downside is its not the k edition so you're pretty much stuck with the bought performance
JoeSpur

What's the best DDR4 RAM to buy? There are so many speeds! It wasn't like … What's the best DDR4 RAM to buy? There are so many speeds! It wasn't like this when I built my last PC X)



​honestly go with the cheapest of the capacity you want from a reliable brand, you will not notice much in extra speed from the ram unless you're going from low end ddr3 to top tier ddr4
If anyone is interested in upgrading there system to 1151 (Skylake) and are looking for motherboards depending on what you need it for check this guide out Skylake Chipsets
I've just had a build done by Novatech with one of these. They've been selling it for £139 for ages, so I picked it over the 4460 which was the original plan.
buckiebull

If anyone is interested in upgrading there system to 1151 (Skylake) and … If anyone is interested in upgrading there system to 1151 (Skylake) and are looking for motherboards depending on what you need it for check this guide out Skylake Chipsets


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Edited by: "Trick1" 5th Nov 2015
Good price.. not as good as the deal I got on the a i7 6700 3.4GHz Skylake from Novatech not long ago (Was just under £120.) I should have bought more than one!
If you think I'm telling porkies, here was their twitter feed for it on the 24th
twitter.com/Nov…752
Didn't know whether to pick the 6600K or this. I'm unlikely to do any overclock so this is tempting. Especially since I can use the H170 chipset.

Actually it looks like H170 can support the 6600K too..
Edited by: "mcbain" 5th Nov 2015
Bilj

If I was to upgrade from an fx6300 system would I notice that much of a … If I was to upgrade from an fx6300 system would I notice that much of a performance increase with this processor (particularly for gaming)? Never the less have put it into flubit to see what they come out with, thanks op



Generally speaking the GPU is the biggest factor in gaming performace, unless you play very CPU-bound games. Considering that to upgrade to skylake you would have to get a new motherboard/ram and that AMD FXs are great overclockers, if gaming performance is what you care about you should probably spend those money in a GPU (unless you have a recent one). The whole platform upgrade cost could pay for a r390 or a 970, or better, depending on what components you would go for.

Edited by: "somerandomguy123" 5th Nov 2015
Lukedotv

where did you get that info?



​just one source of many available cpu-world.com/Com…tml
h4hassan

I know there is a cloud in the sky, but I never heard of a lake in the … I know there is a cloud in the sky, but I never heard of a lake in the sky



Lakes often have a reflection of the Sky in them though.
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dcpp4

Generally speaking the GPU is the biggest factor in gaming performace, … Generally speaking the GPU is the biggest factor in gaming performace, unless you play very CPU-bound games. Considering that to upgrade to skylake you would have to get a new motherboard/ram and that AMD FXs are great overclockers, if gaming performance is what you care about you should probably spend those money in a GPU (unless you have a recent one). The whole platform upgrade cost could pay for a r390 or a 970, or better, depending on what components you would go for.



I had an fx4100 with a gtx 760 ... when Wolfenstein New Order came out, it was unplayable, 10fps, I upgraded cpu to an i7 4790, did not upgrade gfx and fps went from 10 to 60 ... everything maxed ... i was v surprised, and cpu was much more important than i realised
thebestrc

B*ollock, just bought a lga 1150 motherboard. :(Where are the deals for … B*ollock, just bought a lga 1150 motherboard. :(Where are the deals for Haswell cpu's?


Just bought a 4460 from Amazon.es for £115 (Eur 161.50). Big saving on the UK price, even after I'd paid 11 euros for next day delivery.
Any decent but inexpensive mATX motherboards anybody using?
thebestrc

B*ollock, just bought a lga 1150 motherboard. :(Where are the deals for … B*ollock, just bought a lga 1150 motherboard. :(Where are the deals for Haswell cpu's?



Where are the deals for Haswell-e cpu's? (_;)
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dcpp4

Generally speaking the GPU is the biggest factor in gaming performace, … Generally speaking the GPU is the biggest factor in gaming performace, unless you play very CPU-bound games. Considering that to upgrade to skylake you would have to get a new motherboard/ram and that AMD FXs are great overclockers, if gaming performance is what you care about you should probably spend those money in a GPU (unless you have a recent one). The whole platform upgrade cost could pay for a r390 or a 970, or better, depending on what components you would go for.



I did consider just getting a high end graphics card but I was worried about bottlenecks with the fx 6300 which would mean I would have to upgrade both eventually anyway (only have a Radeon 7850 at the min). Still got 48hrs on the flubit offer to make a decision, thanks for the info guys.
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Bilj

I did consider just getting a high end graphics card but I was worried … I did consider just getting a high end graphics card but I was worried about bottlenecks with the fx 6300 which would mean I would have to upgrade both eventually anyway (only have a Radeon 7850 at the min). Still got 48hrs on the flubit offer to make a decision, thanks for the info guys.



my fx4100 machine originally paired with a 6870 before i upgraded to a nv 760 ... so it seems to me that my machine was like a year older equivalent of yours ... although i have heard the 6300 is a big upgrade on the 4100 ... but if i share my upgrade path with you maybe it will help you in your choice ... my builds were for 1080p gaming ... a) fx4100 + ati 6870 b) fx4100 + gtx 760 c) i7 4790 + gtx 760 d) i7 4790 + gtx 970 ...... build a) could run Bioshock Infinite on low to med settings 60fps .... thus upgrade to build b) which comfortably played Bioshock Infinite on very high settings at 60fps, but not ultra ... build played Wolfenstein new order @ 10fps thus upgrade to build c) played wolfenstein on very high @ 60fps but not ultra ... build c could not play Dragon Age Inquisition smoothly (on ultra... fine on medium)so upgraded to my current build i7 4970 +gtx 970 and DAI runs like a dream all on ultra ... 2 points of note ... 1. i am an ultra snob ... for all i know my eyes might not see a difference between all very high vs all ultra, but i dont feel 'complete' if i dont have every setting maxxed .. i think this might be common, and is really really stupid .... 2) I was told once that all AMD tech is last generation nvidia and intel design, as nvidia and intel were deemed monopoly s ... and agreed to GIVE amd their last designs to counter this .... I have no idea if this is true ... but as amds always use more power, it fits .... on that note, my pc is on 18 hours a day ... since moving to intel+nvidia I am using 1 less kwh per day = 15p x 365 = £54.75 per year ... helped me justify the purchase heheh
Edited by: "deleted956871" 5th Nov 2015
chrisread2000

my fx4100 machine originally paired with a 6870 before i upgraded to a nv … my fx4100 machine originally paired with a 6870 before i upgraded to a nv 760 ... so it seems to me that my machine was like a year older equivalent of yours ... although i have heard the 6300 is a big upgrade on the 4100 ... but if i share my upgrade path with you maybe it will help you in your choice ... my builds were for 1080p gaming ... a) fx4100 + ati 6870 b) fx4100 + gtx 760 c) i7 4790 + gtx 760 d) i7 4790 + gtx 970 ...... build a) could run Bioshock Infinite on low to med settings 60fps .... thus upgrade to build b) which comfortably played Bioshock Infinite on very high settings at 60fps, but not ultra ... build played Wolfenstein new order @ 10fps thus upgrade to build c) played wolfenstein on very high @ 60fps but not ultra ... build c could not play Dragon Age Inquisition smoothly (on ultra... fine on medium)so upgraded to my current build i7 4970 +gtx 970 and DAI runs like a dream all on ultra ... 2 points of note ... 1. i am an ultra snob ... for all i know my eyes might not see a difference between all very high vs all ultra, but i dont feel 'complete' if i dont have every setting maxxed .. i think this might be common, and is really really stupid .... 2) I was told once that all AMD tech is last generation nvidia and intel design, as nvidia and intel were deemed monopoly s ... and agreed to GIVE amd their last designs to counter this .... I have no idea if this is true ... but as amds always use more power, it fits .... on that note, my pc is on 18 hours a day ... since moving to intel+nvidia I am using 1 less kwh per day = 15p x 365 = £54.75 per year ... helped me justify the purchase heheh



No offence meant to you but this AMD thing is the silliest thing I've read all week, and I visit stuff like wccftech. Whoever told you that is either clueless, ill intentioned or mocking you.
Back to the original topic, having a faster CPU (and btw you are comparing a 230£-2014 to a 40£-2011 one) will generally make things, including probably games go faster. However modern games in particular are more often than not GPU bound applications, meaning that given a decent enough system (CPU/ram and so on) having a faster GPU will produce much more results than having a faster CPU, hence giving you a better return of investment. In the case of OP he has a cpu that is perfectly fine for gaming. If the question is 'would he game faster spending 250£ in a cpu/mobo/ram upgrade OR in a new gpu, the answer is indubitably GPU. Now consider that the CPU he's about to buy is a low end i5 and not your very high end i7 (which by the way, in gaming offers little to no gains compared to a i5 4690k as you probably know) and the proposition loses even more value. Also you should probably avoid using wolfstein as a performance benchmark as that game seems to have severe perfomance issues and smells of bad console port.
I can also give you empirical evidence, we upgraded a friend's machine a week ago from an ancient i5 570 to an i7 6700k with a moderate overclock. He kept the same GPU (r 6950 2gb). We benchmarked few games at 1080p, max details tomb raider, alien isolation, dota 2 and run 3d mark. The biggest difference game wise was tomb raider, where he got 4(from 24 to 28) extra fps at base, with the average increased by 2. In a GPU bound scenario, he spent > 400£ in CPU to get maybe a 10% performance increase in gaming, which we managed to replicate by a minor gpu overclock. Wrapping up, I cant recommend to somebody with a fx6300 and a 7850 to spend 300£ in a cpu upgrade to game faster. Will he need a CPU upgrade if he wants to game at the best possible reolutions etc etc? Sure. Does he need it before a GPU upgrade? No way.

edit: the power consumption thing is one that gets tossed around and is generally greatly overrated. The TDP difference of the 4100 to the 4790k is 7w. If you were to run at full load, meaning consistent 100% cpu usage 18 hours a day 365 days a year, it would account to 5.5£ per year in extra electricity at my rate. Obviously nobody runs a cpu at 100% load all the time, and its indisputable that the 4790k being way faster than the 4100 will likely run at lower TDP given the same load.
Lets get to GPU - The 970, 3.5gb issues aside is a fantastic card. The comparable AMD gpu would be the r390, which has 8gb of vram and is emerging as its drivers improve as the faster card. If you consider average to peak power usage (since you'd achieve maximum only during stress testing) the difference accounts to roughly the 55£ a year you indicate, but again that would mean that you play GPU intensive games 18 hours a day. At idle the difference is basically negligible. As a final word remember that TDP is effectively heat added to the environment, which means that the heat output of your PC works either towards your heating (i.e. winter) or against your cooling (i.e. aircon, if you are lucky enough to a country that is warm for more than 20 days a year)
Edited by: "somerandomguy123" 6th Nov 2015
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