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intel pentium g4560 dual core (4 threads) 3.5ghz lga1151 Kaby lake £53.72 @ BT Shop
intel pentium g4560 dual core (4 threads) 3.5ghz lga1151 Kaby lake £53.72 @ BT Shop

intel pentium g4560 dual core (4 threads) 3.5ghz lga1151 Kaby lake £53.72 @ BT Shop

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I've been waiting to grab one of these

I'll be throwing it in a cheap h110m motherboard I picked up ages ago for £20 (used my 6600k to update the bios)

And just got 8gb of ddr4 from ocuk for peanuts

Probably throw a 750ti I have lying around in too

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Why it's cold? Good price for quite capable cpu.

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jordantr

Why it's cold? Good price for quite capable cpu.



Exactly my thoughts... was going for £65 before from most retailers and it's the cheapest delivered price

A used i3 6100 still costs more than this with pretty much identical performance

I'm still using a Q9300. This processor is cheap enough, but would cost too much for board and memory to justify...rarely use my desktops now. Tend to use laptop for windows and Rpi for everything else.

Have dual DVB S2 tuner in desktop...but not really used due to lack of integrated software (no windows media centre) in Windows 10.

Great value CPU. It's very nearly a i3 for a lot less money. First Pentium in a long time to get Hyper Threading, which can make a big difference in some situations. I've got one in an B150 ITX build. As mentioned by the OP, you'll need a BIOS update to use this on a Skylake motherboard.

Some older boards can be flashed via USB without a cpu needed so worth checking before you buy

babswatkins

Exactly my thoughts... was going for £65 before from most retailers and … Exactly my thoughts... was going for £65 before from most retailers and it's the cheapest delivered priceA used i3 6100 still costs more than this with pretty much identical performance


Probably because most people can't be arsed to go through the process of building a pc from scratch nowadays

Great price, nearly as good as an i3 6300 and half the price, perfect for a decent PC for most daily tasks.

emodan

Some older boards can be flashed via USB without a cpu needed so worth … Some older boards can be flashed via USB without a cpu needed so worth checking before you buy


AFAIK only very few boards support this as the feature needs a custom chip able to init USB and do the flashing without a CPU. Only some very end Asus ("USB BIOS Flashback") and Gigabyte ("Q-Flash Plus") boards support this I think and no MSI or ASRock do.

How does this compare to an old i5 2500k?

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Naith

How does this compare to an old i5 2500k?



It's on par with it at stock speeds... if you have a 2500k there is no reason to upgrade

I really wish I had my old 2500k still managed to get up to 4.8ghz stable
Edited by: "babswatkins" 4th Feb

Great deal, got one a week ago for a htpc setup with a 1050 and so far its been great

I feel a touch guilty I have to admit as I bought a cheap G3900 to flash the bios on the H110itx and then sent it back

I have been eying this Pentium up for a while and although it might be overkill just for a pfsense box, as it supports AES hardware encryption for a VPN client, at the price it is (at least £10 cheaper than elsewhere) it is a cracking buy..!

Then again I might build a HTPC with it.

Well found OP and ordered, 13 left at the time I had bought mine.

My Asus Sabertooth S Z170 board, with my 6700k, supports that Asus flashback and it would be great if that would be a std feature on all boards. I do not fancy having to strip out my 6700k just to enable a M-ATX or ITX board to boot to be able to flash it to support this CPU. I might end up being lazy and just buy a H270 board, but there goes my savings on this CPU if I do....!

Can't decide on whether to go M-ATX or ITX, not built and ITX before.

Any cheap (but reliable like Crucial) DDR4 (8GB) going...?

Edited by: "VimesUK" 4th Feb

Axeboy

Great deal, got one a week ago for a htpc setup with a 1050 and so far … Great deal, got one a week ago for a htpc setup with a 1050 and so far its been greatI feel a touch guilty I have to admit as I bought a cheap G3900 to flash the bios on the H110itx and then sent it back



Clearly not guilty enough to prevent you from relaying this information to the entire world.

She got PC bits and bobs everywhere

Got a budget of about £250 for mini atx motherboard, some ram and a cpu and was looking at these lower priced chips from Intel but with AMD about to release Ryzen I'm not sure I should hold off and see what they bring to the table.
Still running a quad core 9550 from 2009 so any current chip is going to be a marked improvement but I wish AMD would pull their finger out so I knew which way to jump.

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VimesUK

I have been eying this Pentium up for a while and although it might be … I have been eying this Pentium up for a while and although it might be overkill just for a pfsense box, as it supports AES hardware encryption for a VPN client, at the price it is (at least £10 cheaper than elsewhere) it is a cracking buy..!Then again I might build a HTPC with it.Well found OP and ordered, 13 left at the time I had bought mine.My Asus Sabertooth S Z170 board, with my 6700k, supports that Asus flashback and it would be great if that would be a std feature on all boards. I do not fancy having to strip out my 6700k just to enable a M-ATX or ITX board to boot to be able to flash it to support this CPU. I might end up being lazy and just buy a H270 board, but there goes my savings on this CPU if I do....!Can't decide on whether to go M-ATX or ITX, not built and ITX before.Any cheap (but reliable like Crucial) DDR4 (8GB) going...?



I only ever buy matx boards now... some of the matx boards with 3 pci slots actually fit in some itx cases. They're called flex-atx boards I think.

I like the lian li itx cases or the raijintek metis
Edited by: "babswatkins" 4th Feb

Thinking about updating our ageing Phenom X4 970 box for a while, now. Was hoping the lower end would have a bit more oomph after seven years.

Great buy for a budget gaming pc, though.

babswatkins

I only ever buy matx boards now... some of the matx boards with 3 pci … I only ever buy matx boards now... some of the matx boards with 3 pci slots actually fit in some itx cases. They're called flex-atx boards I think.I like the lian li itx cases or the raijintek metis




Thanks

I had seen the Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Cube Case with Fan for less than £38 and it looks to be a pretty good case, if you like the cube style over the upright tower.
The ITX boards do seem to cost a little more over the MATX but equally I do not need the expansion offered by the larger board.
If I do decide to go for a HTPC using this CPU then the onboard GPU should be fine.

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VimesUK

ThanksI had seen the Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Cube Case with Fan for … ThanksI had seen the Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Cube Case with Fan for less than £38 and it looks to be a pretty good case, if you like the cube style over the upright tower. The ITX boards do seem to cost a little more over the MATX but equally I do not need the expansion offered by the larger board. If I do decide to go for a HTPC using this CPU then the onboard GPU should be fine.



If you're just going to be using the on bird graphics I would really recommend the raijintek metis case... I think it's beautiful and it's tiny

babswatkins

If you're just going to be using the on bird graphics I would really … If you're just going to be using the on bird graphics I would really recommend the raijintek metis case... I think it's beautiful and it's tiny




Many thanks. That isn't just a beautiful case it is also cheap as well...!

Not too sure about the on bird graphics though


Edited by: "VimesUK" 4th Feb

Hot from me. Paid £65 last week for one.

emodan

Some older boards can be flashed via USB without a cpu needed so worth … Some older boards can be flashed via USB without a cpu needed so worth checking before you buy


It's a great feature that's sadly quite rare. It's mostly expensive ones that can do this.

A great price, most vendors have it between £65 and £70. I have my doubts that BT will deliver but worth a punt, perhaps. In certain situations with certain ram pairings the G4560 can, in a lot of games, match an i3 6100, which is extraordinary considering the price differential. For some productivity programs, an i3 performs better. For some reason, as compared with i3 and i5 offerings, the dual core/hyperthreaded G4560 pairs better with budget Nvidia offerings in intense action sequences than budget AMD (in many of the DX11 titles where Nvidia has an edge over AMD, it seems to be particularly so with the G4560, where in DX12 and Vulcan supported games, the AMD graphics card is often a stronger performer, even with the G4560).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-aP0JqJkJ0

To put things in perspective, the new hyper threaded Pentium part falls well short of the current generation unlocked K-series Intel CPUs (in games where the CPU is the bottleneck; in games where paired with a cheap GTX 1050 TI, the differences between the hyper threaded G4560 and the i5 and i7 are small in the reviews that I have seen; Richard of Digitalfoundry often tests CPUs with a Titan graphics card to remove the GPU as a bottleneck, and there the differences in CPU performance is often significant).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtpSiYFFjbI

But it does give you an easy upgrade path at a later date.

Here is a test on Hardware Unboxed that shows minimum frame rates across a variety of graphics cards at different price points paired with the G4560, across a number of recent gaming titles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUapuF0y30s&t=4s

Anyway, I don't know how long it will remain at that price, assuming BT honour it, but meantime, a cracking buy for a budget build with one of the new motherboards that supports Kaby Lake (most older 1151 motherboards will require a bios update to support Kaby Lake), have some more heat!

Edited by: "Noclouds" 5th Feb

this is real good for everyday use BUT NOT for gaming...unless you just really want to play at low/mid level range

bt shop are not good for pc bits, they offer things at a great price then tell you they can't supply them.

Was waiting for a price dip on amazon but this is a very good price so ordered. Gonna hunt for a 1050ti next

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BigP50000

this is real good for everyday use BUT NOT for gaming...unless you just … this is real good for everyday use BUT NOT for gaming...unless you just really want to play at low/mid level range



You're mistaken

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ganon

Was waiting for a price dip on amazon but this is a very good price so … Was waiting for a price dip on amazon but this is a very good price so ordered. Gonna hunt for a 1050ti next



I would pair this with an rx 470

babswatkins

I would pair this with an rx 470



Prefer nvidia really, had shadow play and lower wattage use.

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ganon

Prefer nvidia really, had shadow play and lower wattage use.



Fair enough... I have a 1050ti in my house and it's pretty capable at 1080p

This is a great budget processor. Look at it compared to its big brothers in this video.

https://youtu.be/FUapuF0y30s

If I was building a powerful budget console killer I'd pair this with the RX 480 £197 deal that I saw earlier. But unfortunately I don't need one so I can't justify it - damn expensive hobbies!
Edited by: "tomwoodhouse" 4th Feb

babswatkins

You're mistaken




and you're so right you need your own channel on youtube

It's a champ not least because of the upgrade path.

Buying a new AMD system is pretty much entirely pointless at this stage as intel own the whole market since this released, and edged out the FX6300. Ryzen seems only high end to start as well, it could be 6 months before there is any real response at the budget level from AMD.

ganon

Was waiting for a price dip on amazon but this is a very good price so … Was waiting for a price dip on amazon but this is a very good price so ordered. Gonna hunt for a 1050ti next




go for this, boost clock is tremendous - box.co.uk/ZOT…LMA
Edited by: "BigP50000" 4th Feb

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BigP50000

and you're so right you need your own channel on youtube



Lol ok big man

rimz790

Pentium G4560 Review: The Best Budget CPU We've Tested! - Digital Foundry



The most interesting thing from that video people should take note of is how much better Nvidia cards are with less CPU (like this chip) performance than Radeons, obviously in DX11. In Infinite warfare GTX1060 annihilates the RX 480 when there is any sort of significant load.

rimz790

Pentium G4560 Review: The Best Budget CPU We've Tested! - Digital … Pentium G4560 Review: The Best Budget CPU We've Tested! - Digital FoundryPentium G4560 vs Core i7 7700K/ i5 7600K/ i3 7350K Gaming Benchmarks




its the same results all year round - youtube.com/wat…TSU

babswatkins

You're mistaken



Absolutely agree. Check out hardwareunboxed video on processor. Its surprising how even with a GTX 1060 the cpu rarely becomes a bottleneck.
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