iPad 10W USB Power Adapter - tesco in store - £7.50
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iPad 10W USB Power Adapter - tesco in store - £7.50

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Found 8th May 2013
No doubt I will be burned down to the ground with this deal (not in terms of deal heat) as this is (1) a tesco in store deal and (2) I haven't posted a picture of the receipt (yet)

But nonetheless I will post it anyway

It was under the macs and had a clearance sticker for £7.50 from £40 I think

I've run out of memory on my iPhone to take pictures so will scan it at work

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Barcode has been smudged but looks like 85909356?53

19 Comments

I've voted hot as it's a good price but people might want to get the 12W iPad charger which is much faster for iPad 4. I got one from Currys for £15:

currys.co.uk/gbu…tml

Heat for funny intro comment.

Heat added.

onetwothree123

I've voted hot as it's a good price but people might want to get the 12W … I've voted hot as it's a good price but people might want to get the 12W iPad charger which is much faster for iPad 4. I got one from Currys for £15:http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/ipad-tablets-and-ereaders/apple-ipad/apple-ipad-accessories/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter-19348015-pdt.html



It's not 'much' faster, logic would dictate it's about 20% faster at most but having tried one I can't tell a lot of difference between the 10W and 12W units, the 5W ones sure. At double the price I'd stick with the 10W and to be fair for a genuine Apple product this is a good deal - having seen cheap non-OEM units fry iPads at least you know you should be safe with this.

LOL at the original £40 price!

plewis00

It's not 'much' faster, logic would dictate it's about 20% faster at most … It's not 'much' faster, logic would dictate it's about 20% faster at most but having tried one I can't tell a lot of difference between the 10W and 12W units, the 5W ones sure. At double the price I'd stick with the 10W and to be fair for a genuine Apple product this is a good deal - having seen cheap non-OEM units fry iPads at least you know you should be safe with this.LOL at the original £40 price!



Interesting comment - surely it depends on whether you consider 20% to be "much" or not? I happen to think that it's more than 20% faster with a compatible iPad 4, which is set up to take advantage of the faster charger, and I don't consider the difference to be insignificant, hence my use of the term "much". It's all relative though - if you got a 20% pay rise, you would probably consider that to be not "much". Others may disagree.

A branded 10W USB charger (that uses your existing device-specific USB cable) for £5.88 delivered:
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onetwothree123

Interesting comment - surely it depends on whether you consider 20% to be … Interesting comment - surely it depends on whether you consider 20% to be "much" or not? I happen to think that it's more than 20% faster with a compatible iPad 4, which is set up to take advantage of the faster charger, and I don't consider the difference to be insignificant, hence my use of the term "much". It's all relative though - if you got a 20% pay rise, you would probably consider that to be not "much". Others may disagree.



You're seriously comparing an iPad charger that charges 20% faster (when most people probably charge their devices overnight when not in use anyway) to a 20% pay rise? And how does your 12W charger costing double the price of the 10W one posted here factor into this same 'pay rise analogy' - I guess the closest thing given what you've said is 'I wouldn't consider a 20% pay rise much if I had to work 100% harder or twice as many hours for it'.

@Flipd, the Samsung charger does sound a good idea but it won't charge the iPad faster as it doesn't seem to interpret the extra current properly (I may be wrong) but round the other way Samsung tablets won't fast charge using the 10W/12W iPad chargers (you actually get a not charging message). Also if for some reason it failed and took out the iPad I'm pretty sure using a non-manufacturer approved charger would void any warranty - that was my primary cause for concern having seen a genuine Apple charger fail and destroy, charger, wall socket, Lightning cable and iPad mini.

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plewis00

You're seriously comparing an iPad charger that charges 20% faster (when … You're seriously comparing an iPad charger that charges 20% faster (when most people probably charge their devices overnight when not in use anyway) to a 20% pay rise? And how does your 12W charger costing double the price of the 10W one posted here factor into this same 'pay rise analogy' - I guess the closest thing given what you've said is 'I wouldn't consider a 20% pay rise much if I had to work 100% harder or twice as many hours for it'.@Flipd, the Samsung charger does sound a good idea but it won't charge the iPad faster as it doesn't seem to interpret the extra current properly (I may be wrong) but round the other way Samsung tablets won't fast charge using the 10W/12W iPad chargers (you actually get a not charging message). Also if for some reason it failed and took out the iPad I'm pretty sure using a non-manufacturer approved charger would void any warranty - that s my primary cause for concern having seen a genuine Apple charger fail and destroy, charger, wall socket, Lightning cable and iPad mini.




Really? Shall I even open this up then given that it seems quite a few people have had they're iPads destroyed

I've only got an iPad1 so not as much of a risk I suppose

plewis00

...@Flipd, the Samsung charger does sound a good idea but it won't charge … ...@Flipd, the Samsung charger does sound a good idea but it won't charge the iPad faster as it doesn't seem to interpret the extra current properly (I may be wrong) but round the other way Samsung tablets won't fast charge using the 10W/12W iPad chargers (you actually get a not charging message). Also if for some reason it failed and took out the iPad I'm pretty sure using a non-manufacturer approved charger would void any warranty - that was my primary cause for concern having seen a genuine Apple charger fail and destroy, charger, wall socket, Lightning cable and iPad mini.


Warranty points valid. For those without warranty concerns:
I don't have any i-kit to compare, but in general the "fast charge" function can frequently be determined by manipulation of the USB data carriers. I have a hacked USB cable with the data wires shorted and when using that cable with my tablet's 10W charger for my mobile, this cable converts "charging USB" to the faster "charging A/C" i.e. slow-ish charge to fast(er) charge.

Flipd

Warranty points valid. For those without warranty concerns:I don't have … Warranty points valid. For those without warranty concerns:I don't have any i-kit to compare, but in general the "fast charge" function can frequently be determined by manipulation of the USB data carriers. I have a hacked USB cable with the data wires shorted and when using that cable with my tablet's 10W charger for my mobile, this cable converts "charging USB" to the faster "charging A/C" i.e. slow-ish charge to fast(er) charge.



Your probably completely right but if there was a chance of being denied a repair due to use of 'third-party/non-OEM' accessories then it's worth paying that bit extra for the original manufacturers kit.

I genuinely have no idea why my friend's Note 10.1 or my Tab 2 10.1 won't charge fast using an Apple 10 or 12W charger - it just comes up with a not charging icon (X on the battery) but does take charge just very slow (like nearly 24 hours for a 100% charge)! Both fast charge using a proper Samsung charger.

heated

You're seriously comparing an iPad charger that charges 20% faster (when most people probably charge their devices overnight when not in use anyway) to a 20% pay rise? And how does your 12W charger costing double the price of the 10W one posted here factor into this same 'pay rise analogy' - I guess the closest thing given what you've said is 'I wouldn't consider a 20% pay rise much if I had to work 100% harder or twice as many hours for it'



I wasn't saying the two things are analogous. I was merely pointing out that 20% to me does constitute much faster. Contrary to your assumption, I don't charge my iPad overnight so the time I save is worth paying the extra £7.50 for. That is why I mentioned the 12W charger. It was to share information for anyone in a similar position to me. I didn't rubbish the original deal (in fact I voted it hot as I clearly said) and didn't see why you took exception to the word "much". The 12W charger charges my iPhone 5 from dead to 100% in about an hour. The 10W one takes a lot longer in my experience. It's all relative.

Remember, the iPad 4 is optimised to make best use of the 12W charger - you won't get the same performance levels if you use it with an iPad 3 or older. Your assumption that it is merely a 20% improvement doesn't factor the optimisation in. All I would say is that I am very pleased with the 12W and wouldn't go back to using a 10W. However, if I had an iPad 3 or older, I may have taken advantage of the OP's deal as the speed difference would be less. As I have an iPad 4 though, I am happy to pay the extra £7.50 which is a small price to pay given the total amount of time I save during the lifetime of the product.

I'm sorry you disagree with my post, but I'd rather just put information out there for people even if it helps just one person, I don't really come on here to engage in debates on semantics usually.


Edited by: "onetwothree123" 9th May 2013



Actually what I took offense to was your ridiculous analogy that I may consider a 20% pay rise not to be 'much', it doesn't matter who you are but when it's physical pay you're talking about 20% is a lot be you a shop assistant or the CEO of a bank.

Where have you got this information that it's optimised for the iPad 4 or 12W charger? I've never seen that and Apple doesn't say it is either - if you look around the net you'll see people saying the charge time is only reduced by 30-45 minutes (here's one example: http://9to5mac.com/2012/11/01/apples-12w-power-adapter-put-to-the-test-charges-ipad-30-45-min-faster-video/). I did not 'assume' it won't charge a 3 faster but you have made some assumption that it's optimised, and I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean - if your iPad pulls a peak of 12W over 10W it will either use that extra 2W to charger faster or dissipate it as heat and the iPad 3 certainly can make use of this.

Personally, as you're effectively hijacking the OP's thread, I would even go the other way and say I'd find two 10W chargers more useful than one 12W one for the same price as at least I'd have a spare. Anyway if you have an iPad 4 and it came with this 12W charger, why are you fiddling with a 10W charger to show it's slower?

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I don't mind, it's all good fun

plewis00

Actually what I took offense to was your ridiculous analogy that I may … Actually what I took offense to was your ridiculous analogy that I may consider a 20% pay rise not to be 'much', it doesn't matter who you are but when it's physical pay you're talking about 20% is a lot be you a shop assistant or the CEO of a bank.Where have you got this information that it's optimised for the iPad 4 or 12W charger? I've never seen that and Apple doesn't say it is either - if you look around the net you'll see people saying the charge time is only reduced by 30-45 minutes (here's one example: http://9to5mac.com/2012/11/01/apples-12w-power-adapter-put-to-the-test-charges-ipad-30-45-min-faster-video/). I did not 'assume' it won't charge a 3 faster but you have made some assumption that it's optimised, and I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean - if your iPad pulls a peak of 12W over 10W it will either use that extra 2W to charger faster or dissipate it as heat and the iPad 3 certainly can make use of this.Personally, as you're effectively hijacking the OP's thread, I would even go the other way and say I'd find two 10W chargers more useful than one 12W one for the same price as at least I'd have a spare. Anyway if you have an iPad 4 and it came with this 12W charger, why are you fiddling with a 10W charger to show it's slower?



a) I didn't hijack the thread. Read what I wrote - I merely suggested an alternative in addition to voting this deal hot.

b) On IGM's testing of 45 minutes per charge improvement, assuming that you own the device for 2 years and that you only charge your iPad once a week, that's 4680 minutes or 78 hours. That's 3 days saved over the course of 2 years. To me, that's worth £7.50 extra. It may not be for you, but there may be someone out there who wants that saving.

c) You really need to stop assuming everyone in the world thinks and behaves like you. I have a 10W charger from my previous iPad and have used it to charge my new iPad so that's why I know the difference. Sorry, if my "fiddling with a 10W charger" offends your delicate sensibilities. I'll be sure to ask your permission next time.

d) When I said iPad 4 is optimised, it's because the 12W adapter is compatible with older units, but it won't provide more in the way of watts, so the charge time remains the same. 12W charges faster than the 10W, if and only, if the connected device can draw more than 10W. The IPad 4 can so if you use a 10W charger with it, you will get a slower charge than with a 12W charger.

e) Your prickly reaction to the 20% thing has just served to validate my point. You've now accepted that 20% should not necessarily be dismissed as "not much".

f) I've been on this site a fair amount of time and always try to be positive and encouraging of others when they post (hence my original reply to this post), not pedantic and needlessly critical of posters. You know what? You need to keep things in perspective - this was a post about a power charger. Chill out. It isn't that serious.


Edited by: "onetwothree123" 10th May 2013

onetwothree123

a) I didn't hijack the thread. Read what I wrote - I merely suggested an … a) I didn't hijack the thread. Read what I wrote - I merely suggested an alternative in addition to voting this deal hot.b) On IGM's testing of 45 minutes per charge improvement, assuming that you own the device for 2 years and that you only charge your iPad once a week, that's 4680 minutes or 78 hours. That's 3 days saved over the course of 2 years. To me, that's worth £7.50 extra. It may not be for you, but there may be someone out there who wants that saving.c) You really need to stop assuming everyone in the world thinks and behaves like you. I have a 10W charger from my previous iPad and have used it to charge my new iPad so that's why I know the difference. Sorry, if my "fiddling with a 10W charger" offends your delicate sensibilities. I'll be sure to ask your permission next time.d) When I said iPad 4 is optimised, it's because the 12W adapter is compatible with older units, but it won't provide more in the way of watts, so the charge time remains the same. 12W charges faster than the 10W, if and only, if the connected device can draw more than 10W. The IPad 4 can so if you use a 10W charger with it, you will get a slower charge than with a 12W charger.e) Your prickly reaction to the 20% thing has just served to validate my point. You've now accepted that 20% should not necessarily be dismissed as "not much". f) I've been on this site a fair amount of time and always try to be positive and encouraging of others when they post (hence my original reply to this post), not pedantic and needlessly critical of posters. You know what? You need to keep things in perspective - this was a post about a power charger. Chill out. It isn't that serious.



I wasn't going to bother answering again thinking this was the end of it but fair enough:

a) I'd call it hijacking because the OP posts a deal and you go post an alternative straight away.

b) It may 'save' 3 days' a year but you're making it out that that's 3 days you can't physically use your iPad or 3 days of your actual lifetime, you can do other things at the same time as it's charging.

c) I didn't assume everyone thinks the same way as me... but clearly if you bought a 12W one then no doubt it was in addition to the one that came with your iPad 4 (e.g. a spare), and I don't have time to test the difference between the 10W and 12W units even if you do, all I know is it's negligible.

d) Obviously you didn't read my link, not that you would bother, clearly you're right about everything. The 12W unit does charge the iPad 2 and 3 faster but only by the 20% accounted by the wattage difference, there are no additional magic optimisations has beyond outputting more current so not sure why you keep coming back to this. The iPad 4 charges approximately 20% quicker as do the old generations.

e) My 'prickly reaction' was to your comparison to a 20% pay rise not being a lot and then attempting to ridicule me over it.

f) And other people have been on this site longer, not that that makes you or me a better judge of anything and it's a forum - it's supposed to encourage debate and opinions if there was a black or white answer this place wouldn't exist. 'Chill out' is such a derogatory and hypocritical phrase - think maybe you need to have a taste of your own medicine, you decided to write a 6-point rebuttal, anyone would think you have shares in 12W iPad chargers or you make your living off selling them.

plewis00

I wasn't going to bother answering again thinking this was the end of it … I wasn't going to bother answering again thinking this was the end of it but fair enough:a) I'd call it hijacking because the OP posts a deal and you go post an alternative straight away.b) It may 'save' 3 days' a year but you're making it out that that's 3 days you can't physically use your iPad or 3 days of your actual lifetime, you can do other things at the same time as it's charging.c) I didn't assume everyone thinks the same way as me... but clearly if you bought a 12W one then no doubt it was in addition to the one that came with your iPad 4 (e.g. a spare), and I don't have time to test the difference between the 10W and 12W units even if you do, all I know is it's negligible.d) Obviously you didn't read my link, not that you would bother, clearly you're right about everything. The 12W unit does charge the iPad 2 and 3 faster but only by the 20% accounted by the wattage difference, there are no additional magic optimisations has beyond outputting more current so not sure why you keep coming back to this. The iPad 4 charges approximately 20% quicker as do the old generations.e) My 'prickly reaction' was to your comparison to a 20% pay rise not being a lot and then attempting to ridicule me over it.f) And other people have been on this site longer, not that that makes you or me a better judge of anything and it's a forum - it's supposed to encourage debate and opinions if there was a black or white answer this place wouldn't exist. 'Chill out' is such a derogatory and hypocritical phrase - think maybe you need to have a taste of your own medicine, you decided to write a 6-point rebuttal, anyone would think you have shares in 12W iPad chargers or you make your living off selling them.



I make my living off selling them? Yes, that's why I posted a link to Currys! Your arguments get better and better.

You have a strange habit of reading what I write and then applying your own warped logic to it. For example, at no stage, did I say that the 3 days you save charging it meant you couldn't do anything else. That's like saying that there's no point in buying a washing machine that washes your clothes in 30 minutes instead of 2 hours, because you could be doing other things while the machine is running so why have the faster appliance?! It's rubbish - you need to get your head around the fact that some consumers will pay for speed improvements. You may not feel the need to pay extra, but good for you. Some of us like the choice. Get over it.

I'll let anyone reading this thread make their own mind up about which charger they prefer. I'm not inclined to continue this nonsense with you ad infinitum. I have no doubts that you will be moved to reply to this as you can't help yourself, but I strongly suggest that you find another outlet for your paranoia.
Edited by: "onetwothree123" 11th May 2013

onetwothree123

I make my living off selling them? Yes, that's why I posted a link to … I make my living off selling them? Yes, that's why I posted a link to Currys! Your arguments get better and better. You have a strange habit of reading what I write and then applying your own warped logic to it. For example, at no stage, did I say that the 3 days you save charging it meant you couldn't do anything else. That's like saying that there's no point in buying a washing machine that washes your clothes in 30 minutes instead of 2 hours, because you could be doing other things while the machine is running so why have the faster appliance?! It's rubbish - you need to get your head around the fact that some consumers will pay for speed improvements. You may not feel the need to pay extra, but good for you. Some of us like the choice. Get over it.I'll let anyone reading this thread make their own mind up about which charger they prefer. I'm not inclined to continue this nonsense with you ad infinitum. I have no doubts that you will be moved to reply to this as you can't help yourself, but I strongly suggest that you find another outlet for your paranoia.



I like how you can call it 'warped logic' and 'paranoia' yet you make ridiculous comparisons - so why are we suddenly comparing washing machines now where the difference is 30 minutes and 2 hours?! That's 4 times as long, nothing like the 20% originally - why is it 'ok' to state that, surely we should be looking at 30 minutes and 36 minutes for twice the price which I'm almost sure everyone else would agree is pointless. The fact you've ignored half my replies to your already long reply suggests you really don't know what you're talking about - some strange optimisations the iPad 4 has that makes it charge faster for example, or the whole 20% pay rise...

It's not paranoia - it's because I'm not letting some deluded individual like you have the last word when that's clearly what you crave. It does seem like you are inclined to continue this 'ad infinitum' because you couldn't let it lie. Tell you what, if the 12W charger is such a good deal why don't you let the public decide and post it as a deal - I'll even give you my word I won't bother commenting on your thread. To quote you I'll finish by saying 'I have no doubts that you will be moved to reply to this as you can't help yourself, but I strongly suggest that you find another outlet for your paranoia.'

P.S. I didn't say you make your 'living off selling them', I said anyone would think you did, the way you continue to defend this charging unit.

Yawn.
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