JD Wetherspoon’s pubs in England, Wales and Northern Ireland will be cutting the price of all food and drink by 7.5 per cent on Wednesday 20 September.
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JD Wetherspoon’s pubs in England, Wales and Northern Ireland will be cutting the price of all food and drink by 7.5 per cent on Wednesday 20 September.

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Found 7th Sep 2017Edited by:"m5rcc"
A heads-up that JDW will be knocking off 7.5% from all food and drink prices on Wednesday 20th September 2017 as part of their campaign on fairer VAT pricing.
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HUKD politics
Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on anything......not just TAX
the lower down the food chain you are..... the more your WILL be shafted
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cburns2 m ago

Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on …Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on anything......not just TAXthe lower down the food chain you are..... the more your WILL be shafted

We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. The majority of the countries with low tax rates are also some of the most unhappiest.
m5rcc16 m ago

We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. …We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. The majority of the countries with low tax rates are also some of the most unhappiest.


That's not entirely true though is it?
There are various types of tax of course however looking at many of the countries in this example it's a mixed bag..
uk.businessinsider.com/wef…10/

Heard a few people say in the past they'd like to pay more tax, should really be some sort of scheme whereby do-gooders can voluntarily increase their tax contributions for that extra feel good factor. I don't personally believe our tax money is well spent as things stand, perhaps if that changed I could agree to tax increases but at the moment the justification is just not there.
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HUKD politics
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reindeer33345 s ago

HUKD politics


Aren't most posts political?! Enter any lease deal!
m5rcc2 m ago

Aren't most posts political?! Enter any lease deal!


True! This one more than most though

On another note, I wonder how many people will be taking the 21st off work?
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reindeer3332 m ago

True! This one more than most though On another note, I wonder how …True! This one more than most though On another note, I wonder how many people will be taking the 21st off work?

I'll ask William Hill...
Hopefully others will follow.

Greene King have great promotions running including BOGOF on drinks and a regular 40% off mains. Not worth cooking with the 40% offer. Large mixed grill for under £6 and two pints for under £2.50.
Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on anything......not just TAX
the lower down the food chain you are..... the more your WILL be shafted
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cburns2 m ago

Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on …Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on anything......not just TAXthe lower down the food chain you are..... the more your WILL be shafted

We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. The majority of the countries with low tax rates are also some of the most unhappiest.
Do not a lot of other European countries have far lower VAT rates for hotels and restaurants.
e.g. I believe Spain has a main VAT equivalent rate of 21% but only 10% for hotels and restaurants.
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Zardoz2 m ago

Do not a lot of other European countries have far lower VAT rates for …Do not a lot of other European countries have far lower VAT rates for hotels and restaurants.e.g. I believe Spain has a main VAT equivalent rate of 21% but only 10% for hotels and restaurants.


Yup - most do.
m5rcc16 m ago

We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. …We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. The majority of the countries with low tax rates are also some of the most unhappiest.


That's not entirely true though is it?
There are various types of tax of course however looking at many of the countries in this example it's a mixed bag..
uk.businessinsider.com/wef…10/

Heard a few people say in the past they'd like to pay more tax, should really be some sort of scheme whereby do-gooders can voluntarily increase their tax contributions for that extra feel good factor. I don't personally believe our tax money is well spent as things stand, perhaps if that changed I could agree to tax increases but at the moment the justification is just not there.
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thrustmaster9 m ago

That's not entirely true though is it?There are various types of tax of …That's not entirely true though is it?There are various types of tax of course however looking at many of the countries in this example it's a mixed bag..http://uk.businessinsider.com/wef-countries-with-the-lowest-tax-rates-in-the-world-2015-10/#1-former-yugoslav-republic-macedonia-74-as-the-only-country-with-a-tax-rate-of-less-than-10-on-its-businesses-but-the-imf-noted-this-year-that-public-debt-has-doubled-in-macedonia-since-2008-partly-as-a-result-of-this-choice-18Heard a few people say in the past they'd like to pay more tax, should really be some sort of scheme whereby do-gooders can voluntarily increase their tax contributions for that extra feel good factor. I don't personally believe our tax money is well spent as things stand, perhaps if that changed I could agree to tax increases but at the moment the justification is just not there.


Many of the countries on that list aren't exactly glowing example. Quite a few despot nations.

People often complain about a poor NHS, for example, and despite all UK governments past and present are poor managers of tax revenue, we still spend a hell of lot less than other nations on healthcare. Ask anyone "Do you want a better NHS" and they'll say yes. Ask them if they want to pay five pence in the Pound more, and they'll say no. Whilst the UK will never replicate a Scandinavian model, the UK at the moment, looks hell-bent at making it a tiny tax-haven island off mainland Europe that sells weapons of mass destruction to those willing to pay for it.
Cold, wetherspoons have got greedy this year and put their price up markedly.

Boycott.
m5rcc56 m ago

We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. …We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. The majority of the countries with low tax rates are also some of the most unhappiest.


Go ahead, you can pay as much tax as you like. Send them a cheque - they'll accept it, and you'll be ecstatic.

Governments know far better than we do how to spend the money we earn, after all.
Such a shame the food in there is only worth 7.5% of the price. Have a some heat though #microwaveheat
MrMoneySavingExpert4 m ago

Such a shame the food in there is only worth 7.5% of the price. Have a …Such a shame the food in there is only worth 7.5% of the price. Have a some heat though #microwaveheat



To be fair, you have to take it for what it is, a lot of their food was good value for money (price comparable if not better than Mcdonalds with better layout) It's a shame they put their prices up so much in one go though.
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flaxdoctor8 m ago

Go ahead, you can pay as much tax as you like. Send them a cheque - …Go ahead, you can pay as much tax as you like. Send them a cheque - they'll accept it, and you'll be ecstatic. Governments know far better than we do how to spend the money we earn, after all.

You are missing the point.

And it is laughable if you think Governments know how spend money better than others!
m5rcc41 m ago

Many of the countries on that list aren't exactly glowing example. Quite a …Many of the countries on that list aren't exactly glowing example. Quite a few despot nations.People often complain about a poor NHS, for example, and despite all UK governments past and present are poor managers of tax revenue, we still spend a hell of lot less than other nations on healthcare. Ask anyone "Do you want a better NHS" and they'll say yes. Ask them if they want to pay five pence in the Pound more, and they'll say no. Whilst the UK will never replicate a Scandinavian model, the UK at the moment, looks hell-bent at making it a tiny tax-haven island off mainland Europe that sells weapons of mass destruction to those willing to pay for it.


The main issue is we have become a poorer country that has a trading deficit and is haemorrhaging money. Just taxing people more of their borrowed money isn't going to help as a population we need to vote for a party with proper economic policies and stop getting them to spend more money they haven't got. Something like £30,000 of debt for every person and with the EU wanting to add about £2,000 on top of that we need to start paying back the money we owe and start running a trading surplus. We should be taxing goods that are mainly imported more like electronics and perhaps removing tax from the service sector to influence how people spend their money. So I would agree with wetherspoons stance on tax it would be good for the economy as long as tax's were increased elsewhere. We just need to tackle the attitude of people that think they can buy a huge amount of imported goods without consequences. People seem to be disconnected from reality when it comes to economics. If you keep borrowing and sending that money abroad then obviously services in this country will suffer.
flaxdoctor23 m ago

Go ahead, you can pay as much tax as you like. Send them a cheque - …Go ahead, you can pay as much tax as you like. Send them a cheque - they'll accept it, and you'll be ecstatic. Governments know far better than we do how to spend the money we earn, after all.


That is exactly what should be said to all these "Celebs" who hark on about more pay for nurses etc!

The Government should set up a formal system to enable those who wish to "opt-in" to pay more tax - then we'd see how many of those so called celebs would put their money where their mouths are! The Tax rates should be seen as a minimum.

Apologies for the political rant - good deal, heat added!
love the chips here
Wow... This thread got political as f*$k! This is a decent offer by the way. Heat
I like Wetherspoons. As long as your expectations are realistic then no problem. I was there with my partner last night actually and we spoke about it. It is basically the McDonalds/Poundland of Pubs. If you keep that in mind then you wont be disappointed. We had a meal each with a drink (wine for her and Guinness for me) and it came to a bit over £12. Now I thought we were people who liked a bargain, if that is only going to get cheaper then its a thumbs up from me.
Instead of a load of armchair political correspondants maybe keep the subject to the deal. Cheaper food and drink... Heat added.
£1.84 for Bud Light. Bargain.
It's stuff is horrid bar the drinks.

Thought I'd try again recently, coffee (latte) was horrible and roll/bap with sausage (wasn't even the type i'd ordered) tasted like plastic, not massively cheap either.

The same in Greggs is £2 but coffee is nice and breakfast roll fresh.
McDonalds is about the same price as Wetherspoons but coffee is nice and food is ok.
So if usually you spend £20 in wetherspoons, then on Wednesday you'll spend £1.50 less??? I understand how this is a political statement, but don't understand how is this a good deal 🤔
Edited by: "cri" 7th Sep 2017
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bonzobanana1 h, 11 m ago

The main issue is we have become a poorer country that has a trading …The main issue is we have become a poorer country that has a trading deficit and is haemorrhaging money.


And much poorer as a result of leaving (or attempting to leave) the EU. Pound Sterling is down 16.51% against the Euro since the EU Referendum and down 11.46% against the US Dollar.

bonzobanana1 h, 11 m ago

Just taxing people more of their borrowed money isn't going to help as a …Just taxing people more of their borrowed money isn't going to help as a population we need to vote for a party with proper economic policies and stop getting them to spend more money they haven't got. Something like £30,000 of debt for every person and with the EU wanting to add about £2,000 on top of that we need to start paying back the money we owe and start running a trading surplus.


It's worse than that I'm afraid. The UK is the most indebted country in the world. My point was that if people want better services then there is no other option that to charge higher taxes for it and/or charge a PAYG service for it.

People do not wish start paying back debt because they find money to be cheap and moral hazard in the UK allows them to splurge with little consequence due to weak bankruptcy laws.

bonzobanana1 h, 11 m ago

We should be taxing goods that are mainly imported more like electronics …We should be taxing goods that are mainly imported more like electronics and perhaps removing tax from the service sector to influence how people spend their money. So I would agree with wetherspoons stance on tax it would be good for the economy as long as tax's were increased elsewhere. We just need to tackle the attitude of people that think they can buy a huge amount of imported goods without consequences. People seem to be disconnected from reality when it comes to economics. If you keep borrowing and sending that money abroad then obviously services in this country will suffer.



A lot of things are taxed and maybe by leaving the EU we will have to pay an import tariff on everything anyhow if the UK relies on WTO rules (which by the way, does not cover services).

There will always be a trade deficit because this country no longer produces anything (other than those weapons of amss destruction we like to sell to our mates the Saudis)
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cri22 m ago

So if usually you spend £20 in wetherspoons, then on Wednesday you'll …So if usually you spend £20 in wetherspoons, then on Wednesday you'll spend £1.50 less??? I understand how this is a political statement, but don't understand how is this a good deal 🤔


Thank you for your contribution!
m5rcc3 h, 6 m ago

We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. …We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. The majority of the countries with low tax rates are also some of the most unhappiest.

Happiness is a perception, we assume those people are unhappy. This is how we are conditioned to think. We can have a big car, a great job with lots of money but don't see much of family or friends but think we are still happy because we have lots of material things. Then there is the person who lives in a country that has lower tax rates, let's say Singapore, this person doesn't have as much money but has family and friends around him and they think they're happy too. So who's the happy one? What you see as unhappy may not seem that to someone else. Happiness is an inner perception not a reality
Any price cut (even for one day) is of course good news, so heat added.

The political case doesn't make a lot of sense as i) VAT cut = increased demand is hardly something that only applies to hospitality and ii) given the national debt there is a stronger argument for "Tax Equality" being achieved by raising the 0% rate on supermarket food that they are comparing against! (not that I am suggesting that should happen either)
jayonline851 h, 46 m ago

Happiness is a perception, we assume those people are unhappy. This is how …Happiness is a perception, we assume those people are unhappy. This is how we are conditioned to think. We can have a big car, a great job with lots of money but don't see much of family or friends but think we are still happy because we have lots of material things. Then there is the person who lives in a country that has lower tax rates, let's say Singapore, this person doesn't have as much money but has family and friends around him and they think they're happy too. So who's the happy one? What you see as unhappy may not seem that to someone else. Happiness is an inner perception not a reality


It's very hard to be happy, living in Singapore. Too much pressure.
Might not be so screwed had JD not bribed employees to vote leave.
cburns7 h, 30 m ago

Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on …Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on anything......not just TAXthe lower down the food chain you are..... the more your WILL be shafted

Hardly! Those of us on lower incomes pay less tax now than we did 5 years ago as we get £4,500 more of our income tax free.
Wetherspoons matched it's political stance on Brexit with it's clientele. Smart move.
backinstock9 h, 14 m ago

Hopefully others will follow.Greene King have great promotions running …Hopefully others will follow.Greene King have great promotions running including BOGOF on drinks and a regular 40% off mains. Not worth cooking with the 40% offer. Large mixed grill for under £6 and two pints for under £2.50.


When did they last do that offer?
dudea72911 m ago

When did they last do that offer?




The BOGOF has been going on for a while (Hungry Horse and some Flaming Grill pubs at least) and is still going strong. Different times at different pubs - 5pm - 7pm or 8pm - 11pm for example.

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Sign up for the email offers and 40% off mains is regular.

Check out your locals...........

greeneking.co.uk/
Not Scotland though? Alright.
Wow 7.5%
backinstock2 h, 57 m ago

The BOGOF has been going on for a while (Hungry Horse and some Flaming …The BOGOF has been going on for a while (Hungry Horse and some Flaming Grill pubs at least) and is still going strong. Different times at different pubs - 5pm - 7pm or 8pm - 11pm for example.[Image] Sign up for the email offers and 40% off mains is regular.Check out your locals...........https://www.greeneking.co.uk/


How do you sign up for the emails? I followed your link to the website but (unusually) no opportunity to sign up for emails as I could see???
Should keep all the local day drinkers happy ! I myself will be working as many of the UK population will and won't be able to take up the amazing 1 day offer
supersue7 h, 22 m ago

How do you sign up for the emails? I followed your link to the website …How do you sign up for the emails? I followed your link to the website but (unusually) no opportunity to sign up for emails as I could see???


Check which pub brands are in your area and sign up for each brand or pub.
For example - Hungry Horse.

hungryhorse.co.uk/signup

Flaming Grill.

flaminggrillpubs.com/ema…up/

etc.
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